Is that why everyone raves about what a great character Arthur is? Cuase hes a psycho just like nico belec was,both would be complete pos if they were real.but people somehow think deep down would be good or something idk I don't get it.
“You get a thanks from him a few days later, no benefits” Um . . . no? He becomes mayor and your bounty in Lemoyne will be completely removed no matter how high it is, you can do a FUCKTON of crime in Rhodes and Saint Denis and as long as he becomes mayor it’ll all get forgiven
You're right, I simply cannot bring myself to shoot an unarmed man who is begging for his life on his knees... Arthur's reaction when he fishes out Jean-Marc's arm, though 🤣
People will say anything when their life is on the line. Though considering this is a sidequest, you already know you won't really face any consequences.
When you dump the corpse of a man you killed in a particular place and then fish up a rotten human arm in that same place it doesn't take a rocket scientist to guess whose arm it is.
@connorperrett9559 To be fair there's an uncomfortable trend you see in instances of a serial killer being caught where it's like "Police noticed the human bone pile in the killers front yard when responding to a 12th 9-1-1 call from a neighbor reporting an unfamiliar woman's voice screaming 'he's going to kill me'. Police spoke to the killer at the door and left without incident. Some months later when a dog walker reported his dog finding human remains on the property, a warrant was secured to search the human bone pile in the killer's yard, and what they found shocked investigators..."
After going to the mayors house for that big party he’ll send you a letter in the mail. You need to open this letter for the missions to pop up. After you’ve done that wait till it’s night time and the missions should pop up at the mayors house. 😁
@@hhdjgghfdhd765 In what way is that smart ass? It's simply a fact that if you don't explore outside of main story missions, you won't find stuff like this. This interaction isn't exactly obscure for someone who's taken the time to explore and interact with the open world.
I'm not granting you this wish any more. No matter how many times we go through this, you beat the game and say the same thing, "I wish I could erase my - -", Enough! I did, time and again. You don't appreciate any more the next time, because you don't know that you're experiencing it for the first time again. The wish was pointless. And I'm not wasting my time doing it anymore.
@@youdontknowmegignathe point of the wish is in fact replaying it without knowing if it's actually good. But i agree with you 100% we should appreciate every moment in life, instead of thinking of the past. When i played it for the first time i somewhat knew that it was a great game so i played it slow and careful to enjoy it better.
If you go to the railroad company near Van Horn sometime around chapter 2 you can help out the foreman just like how you can help the foreman in the timber company near strawberry
My first play through started off LH as I familiarized myself with the game and its mechanics. But slowly but surely, I turned Arthur into a better man as the story progressed. Going into the final mission with nearly if not full HH. I lost some though when I chose to go back for the money 😂
Him trekking across the country side with the severed decomposing arm of the man he ruthlessly murdered just to mess with Pearson is arguably even MORE fucked up then just being an outright cannibal.
The amount of recorded lines in this game is astonishing to me. Thousands of them left unheard in a single playthrough. Love hearing new lines while replaying the game.
1:17, I did the math a long time ago about how long the game is & I got to 5 months. From May (As Hosea states in the opening scene) to October. Idr all the particulars but that's what I got. Although this letter contradicts that as it says "June 1899". Though that is impossible by Chapter 4 They spend no more than a week in Colter. They spend 2 weeks in Horseshoe before we even do a mission. Another, let's say 3 weeks there before you leave (Assuming you're playing at a normal pace). And without mentioning much more, the weeks you spend recovering from the O'Driscoll capture in Chapter 3 alone would put you past June at this point of Chapter 4. Not a big deal big picture, but in a game where they payed so much attention to detail in the smallest of things, I do find this kinda interesting
@@holysol Think about it. If you're not trying to go at a faster pace than normal & sleeping like you would in real life it can realistically add up to 5 months. That's 20 weeks. 1 week in Colter. 2 weeks in Horseshoe before you play a mission. Then another 2 to 3 weeks before you gotta leave. About 2 weeks in Clemen's Point before you get captured by the O'Driscolls & then the game says "A few weeks later" for your recovery which would imply more than 2 weeks. So lets say 3 (We're at 10-11). More important side missions start to pop up when you're at Shady Belle like the Indians, the Mayor, the Slave owner at fence which leads to Sister Calderon. So what would be like 2 weeks with just main missions can easily turn to 3 (13-14 weeks). At least a week in Guarma (14-15). Then in Lakay & Beaver Hollow, between all the loose ends/ side missions on top of the main story, that could easily be 4 to 5 weeks (18-20). You can make the argument that maybe it falls a little short of October, but that's assuming they were in the very beginning of May to start. We don't know if it was mid way or late May
You're right. June is past even if it began the 1st of May. If they left Colter on May 5-7th, it's around May 20th when they're settled in at Horseshoe. Just one more week, it's at least May 27th. Which means it's June in the beginning of Clemen's Point. If Arthur got captured on the very first day in Clemen's Point, it'll still be late June by the time he recovers. By the time you get to Shady Belle and get involved with the mayor, it's July.
It’s just my personal way of interpretation. The mission title is Pragmatism and Idealism, by following Henry order you receive actual benefit despite knowing he’s a rat through and through, u could say it’s a pragmatic thing to do as it benefits you thru ur journey. By sparing Jean Marc you receive nothing and not even sure if Jean Marc even gonna pursue for the betterment of Saint Denis denizen successfully albeit the idealistic way. TLDR: Henry, practical way of life Jean Marc, idealistic way of life
Uh, I'm sure the majority of low honor players would also never "realize" this as well. It's not an obvious thing, more like an easter egg/internal reference. Nothing to "realize" it's a curiosity. A very well done one at that.
As a high honour player I killed him and after went greeting people so I got all the benefits and no losses and before anyone mentions the pardon remember in chapter 4 you have the bank robbery and in chapter 6 Arthur will soon be gone I think the next playthrough I start I will try low honour
Man i need to play this game again with lowest honour, it’s just that I m soon getting married, don’t want the wife to think she got hitched with some psychopath 😅😂
I feel so accomplished when I watch one of those videos that are like “YoU dIdNt knOw ThIs wAs iN tHe GaMe” and then I know that it is in the game. Then I realise the amount of time i’ve put into the game and feel slightly embarrassed. Atleast i know everything about the game though😂
The level of attention to detail put into this game will never be short of astonishing. The fact that even now people are still finding secrets is amazing.
Low Honor Arthur gets more badass one-liners and moments (that I enjoy), but end game, High Honor/Help John feels most rewarding; if for no other reason, Arthur finally having peace (from Micah and Dutch) and taking pride in himself for what he's accomplished, and denying Micah the opportunity to kill him.
@@one1848 Eh, fair enough. I usually use them for the Sadie Adler mission where you fight off the O’Driscolls… basically right at the HEIGHT of the gang’s living, right before everything starts getting worse. To me, they might not be “western,” but they definitely spell out “luxury.”
dont they have that information? i thought they might have for rdr1, i remember they said it was for stuff like leaderboards or something. would be cool to see it
you can just spam fishing to get maximum high honour, or murder everyone you see to get zero honour. my last playthrough i was a bad bad outlaw all thw way through, the nnear the end spend a couple of hours fishing and throwing them back until i had maximum honour so i could get the good ending
I killed Jean the first time, because I thought he was a sniveling rat like Micah trying to screw us over, and the game was trying to throw us off by painting him as honorable. But the journal entry made me regret the shit out of it. Like, Arthur or John feel so conflicted about it even if they both acted so ready to kill the guy. Saying they feel like a tool who can't make their own decision and that they picked corruption over honor.
I have high honor (almost max) and I did kill this guy. It makes the most sense, you don't really know if he's going not only to tell on the mayor but on you too, he gives you "his word" but when the only choice someone has is trying to convince you not to kill him, there's no way I take that word as valid. So even tho I play as a "good" Arthur, like why I wouldn't give a health care to someone who needs it along the way, why would I take that huge risk of this guy telling on me when I can just kill him? It's not like you don't kill plenty of inocent lawmen in a lot of mission even tho you're "high honor"
I killed him for the discount knowing that there would be a lot of opportunities to get my honor back later, and the lower gunsmith costs would help in the long run I was already at max honor at the time and was eventually fine with settling for the rewarding path instead of the righteous one in this mission
Rdr2 looks like the producer and animators did their work far early than given time and in course they did add more of interctive part it in...whew... amazing details
This game never cease to amaze me I've been playing it since 2020 or earlier and still discovering new things, like fishing and finding the arm of the guy
I was a high honor Arthur by this point in the game, but a 10% discount still won me over. I used it to get the black Arabian horse as soon as I got back from Guarma. Only to lose it not long later because of the final mission..
I've played through this game 3 times and I've tried to have an high honor play throughs, and soon as I leave Valentine everytime I become a low honor, gun slingin, bank robbin, no guff takin outlaw. 😂
Kinda disappointing Jean doesn't wire Arthur $50 or send him a gold 🪙 bar. Ungrateful 🤢 Fishing for the arm: Jeez that's dark 🌑. Wish GTA V had this level of detail
Shot Jean Paul off of the principal of him being a snitch. I was just upset Arthur never used his connection to Mayor Lemur to assist the gang with the law. Or at least tell him to give yall a boat or something, goddam 😐 Niko Bellic would never.
It you look closely, there seems to be a hidden message in the first letter. See how the M's kinda poke out? When you put it all together it comes to "Mmmmmmmm"
"Ahhh, I'm sorry buddy" He sounds like he's apologizing that his dog can't go to work with him or sum, but no he's just talking to the rotten, disembodied arm of an innocent man. Low honor Arthur is cold.
As soon as I forgave him (as John) and left the property I was targeted by the law. Those fuckers killed my horse and I never got it back. Did this happen to anyone else?
