Yeshua (Jesus), Paul & James taught and lived according to the Torah 

I think Adam Clarke in his commentary on Romans 3:31 makes a lot of sense: Verse Romans 3:31: "Do we then make void the law through faith? - 1. By law here we may understand the whole of the Mosaic law, in its rites and ceremonies; of which Jesus Christ was the subject and the end. All that law had respect to him; and the doctrine of faith in Christ Jesus, which the Christian religion proclaimed, established the very claims and demands of that law, by showing that all was accomplished in the passion and death of Christ, for, without shedding of blood, the law would allow of no remission; and Jesus was that Lamb of God which was slain from the foundation of the world, in whose blood we have redemption, even the remission of sins. 2. We may understand, also, the moral law, that which relates to the regulation of the manners or conduct of men. This law also was established by the doctrine of salvation by faith; because this faith works by love, and love is the principle of obedience: and whosoever receives salvation through faith in Christ, receives power to live in holy obedience to every moral precept; for such are God's workmanship, created anew in Christ Jesus, unto good works; in which they find it their duty and their interest incessantly to live." And on Hebrews 10: Verse Hebrews 10:9. "He taketh away the first - The offerings, sacrifices, burnt-offerings, and sacrifices for sin, which were prescribed by the law. That he may establish the second. - The offering of the body of Jesus once for all. It will make little odds in the meaning if we say, he taketh away the first covenant, that he may establish the second covenant; he takes away the first dispensation, that he may establish the second; he takes away the law, that he may establish the Gospel. In all these cases the sense is nearly the same: I prefer the first."

@@ScottRachelson777 The magic word there being "dispensation" tells us his theology. If the law was taken out of the way, then you and I have no sin to be forgiven because teaches that without the law, sin is not imputed. Which we didn't need a saviour after all.

@@findingtheancientpath Your comment suggests that if the Law was "taken out of the way," then sin would not be imputed, implying that without the Law, there would be no need for forgiveness or a Savior. This view, however, misunderstands the broader biblical teaching on sin and the role of the Law. Let's clarify how sin was indeed imputed before the Law of Moses and why humanity still needed a Savior, even in the absence of the Mosaic Law. 1. Sin Existed and Was Imputed Before the Law of Moses Romans 5:12-14 (ESV): "Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned-for sin indeed was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not counted where there is no law. Yet death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those whose sinning was not like the transgression of Adam, who was a type of the one who was to come." This passage clarifies that sin was present in the world even before the Mosaic Law was given. The key point is that death reigned from Adam to Moses, indicating that people were guilty of sin and its consequences (death) even without the Mosaic Law. The phrase "sin is not counted where there is no law" refers to the formal recognition of sin under the Mosaic covenant, but it does not mean that sin did not exist or was not imputed before the Law. Genesis 4:7 (ESV): "If you do well, will you not be accepted? And if you do not do well, sin is crouching at the door. Its desire is contrary to you, but you must rule over it." This verse, spoken to Cain before the Mosaic Law, demonstrates that sin was already a reality and something that individuals were responsible for resisting. 2. The Role of the Law of Moses Romans 7:7 (ESV): "What then shall we say? That the law is sin? By no means! Yet if it had not been for the law, I would not have known sin. For I would not have known what it is to covet if the law had not said, 'You shall not covet." The Law of Moses serves to make sin explicitly known by defining it more clearly. It brought an awareness of specific transgressions, but sin and its imputation existed long before the Law was given. This is why people were guilty of sin even before Moses-sin was present, and death, as a consequence, reigned from Adam to Moses. 3. Gentiles and the Natural Law Romans 2:12-15 (ESV): "For all who have sinned without the law will also perish without the law, and all who have sinned under the law will be judged by the law. For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. They show that the work of the law is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness, and their conflicting thoughts accuse or even excuse them." This passage emphasizes that even those without the Mosaic Law-Gentiles-are still guilty of sin because they have an innate sense of morality, a law written on their hearts. Their conscience testifies to this, and they are held accountable for their actions. This natural law demonstrates that sin is imputed to all, not just those under the Mosaic Law. Are you suggesting that all of humanity, from dam to Moses can be guilty of sin and as a consequence suffer death and yet sin cannot be imputed with the codification of a formal, written Law of Moses? I think my argument clearly refutes that idea. 4. Conclusion The argument that without the Law, sin is not imputed, leading to no need for a Savior, is flawed because it overlooks the biblical teaching that sin existed and was imputed to humanity long before the Law of Moses. The Law of Moses did not introduce sin; it clarified it and made it more explicit. Sin was imputed from Adam onward, and death reigned because of that sin. The need for a Savior is rooted in the universal reality of sin, which is not confined to those under the Mosaic Law. Both Jews and Gentiles, with or without the Law, are guilty of sin, and thus, all humanity is in need of salvation through Christ. This shows that sin's imputation predates the Mosaic Law, proving that the need for a Savior was always present, as sin and its consequences (death) were universal.

How about elijah enah​@@findingtheancientpath

First of all there are 613 commandments made exclusively to Israel, not to gentiles. The law was superceded by Christ's new covenant. A different one than the old one. But hebrew roots proponents are blinded by the veil they keep pulled over thier eyes. Think of the torah as reusable toilet paper, sure it helps clean you up a bit but it doesnt solve the problem. So you have to keep wiping.

I don't think Paul was anti-circumcision. Thats a common misunderstanding of the context in which he was speaking. Circumcision without faith in Christ is useless. Not circumcision is useless period.

How about tattoos and cuttings

That can be hard. Perhaps you can invite people into your home for sabbath dinner as a show of hospitality. Serve them. Show them what sabbath is. If all fails honor it alone.

@@EdDoss thank you

Know exactly how you feel, my family wants to get me prayed over to get rid of this evil sprite.

It's an idiomatic expression.