СПАСИБО!!!!!святые воспоминания....мой отец 40 лет работал в ЗКР в оркестре великого музыканта Е. А. Мравинского. я выросла в этом оркестре....слушала репитиции концерты....какие незабываемые счастливые были дни проведенные там наверху на хорах...Он обладал невероятной магической силой....Спасибо судьбе давшей мне возможность слушать и видеть величайшего музыканта МИРА.
Быть честным перед самим собой, не лицемерить, жить в ладу с совестью, иметь гениальную музыкальную и человеческую культуру - это эталон человеческой природы. Мир Вашей душе и царствия небесного....
Thank you, Mr. Marks, for this video, a fantastic testimony about Mravinsky's fine art of conducting. Let's hope to find again another great documentary about him, produced by the ZDF (directed by Wolfgang Schreiber and Hubert Ortkemper) in 1988, broadcast on Arte in the early 1990s.
A fascinating person. He struggled against the state, but he still was a product of his era. I think it's worth listening to his music just because of his unique perspective.
@@222mozart Music has a lot in common with the 'universal spirit of mankind' or in Jungian terms "archetypal" - therefore a musician's national origin or culture has very limited or zero effect on the interpretation of classical music. It is linked to the universal spirit of mankind.
@@antoineduchamp4931 _as being the universal (cosmic) mind is channeled through the archetypal mind which is channeled through planetary mind which is channeled through the racial mind which is channel through the subconscious mind, there are many layers. You may be drawn towards those of your own race, as though sharing a portion of this deeper mind. It's okay. The earth is NOT all one people. Having such a wild mix is not particularly common in the cosmos, by the way. But this explains much. Reform school is quite the spice. Sprinkle that on your symphony. Jk._
_it's okay to appreciate how different races accentuate different, shall we say, parts of speech. The valid part about varying races is that each of the race, there are people's having lived perhaps for thousands of years in a particular place, engaging in particular customs, with particular laws, and most importantly with particular ways of viewing the heart of the self, and of viewing the heart of the self of others. Forget jeans, this exists in the morphogenic realm. The memory is alive. It is magnetic and exists in the magnetic field of the earth as time. No race can be said to be better than another. However a certain race had their DNA altered by Yahweh. Yahweh being the creator of the human race, which was accomplished by taking the genetic material from those living on Mars and mixing it with apes. the importance is not whether the body is real or is not real, but what is important is the amount of emphasis placed on whether it is real or not real._
Музыка выбирает Сосуды необыкновенной Красоты и Высоты откуда Музыка Волшебным образом проливается и преобразует и питает жизнью. Только энергия Жизни даруется , а инструментами являются избранные. Мравинский одарил не только звуком , но и грацией благодарю всех, кто через него материализовал драгоценный щедрый дар растущим и учащимся любить безусловно. Благодарю за видео
Only one thought occurs to me about this wonderful man’s music making: “The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.” His cancellation of the concert in which he was to conduct the Bruckner seventh because the concert would not equal what had been achieved in rehearsal is a course of action that would have not occured to a “professional”.
Professional means being comprised at the level of Money for your Work. He didn’t have to be a professional, cause he had all the Power over the orchestra. I think even Karajan was jealous about the freedom of using power to get his musical goals as Mravinski had. Karajan compensated with having more Fun in enjoying the live and possibilities outside the Orchestra in the free world. Both conductors did the best out of circumstances they had around them.
Mravinsky is my favorite conductor, his videos inspire me more than anything else. Is there somewhere that I could purchase DVDs of his conducting? I am not sure where to look.
Vi ringrazio di cuore per questo bel documento...conoscevo il suo nome sempre abbinato alla Filarmonica di Leningrado ma non avevo mai visto neanche una sua foto...apprezzavo molto la qualità delle esecuzioni ma ora ne capisco i motivi...
Very interesting. Though I have no personal contact surface with any of it, I think I learned something. The art vs craft question, the shadow play and the human psyche and finally the intense political/ideological animosity that you can find even in this comment section today. I wish I could tell my own preference with regards to how it sounded, but that would take some serious effort to resolve.
The remark about his 50 years being the chief conductor in Leningrad, and thus being in that position "longer than any music director" is not entirely correct: Willem Mengelberg served as the conductor of the Concertgebouw Orchestra from 1895 to 1945, which is also 50 years.
Saw him twice in London, 1998 with Vienna Philharmonic, and around 2001 with London Symphony Orchestra. Both times very special! He was always my wife's favorite three times at the Vienna New Years Concert. Like Mravinsky He always brought something special to each performance but I believe his Shostkovich recordings are especially valuable.
"Music, he is quoted as saying, is played for God, not for the people", according to a France Musique Special on Soviet conductors. and I agree that, from a French perspective, he is too polished a director : "compassé", as Proust from a corner would have pastiched him majestically, with his unique humour! A little academic, étouffe-chrétien, like Puvis de Chavannes in painting historiography.
I have always found that Kurt Sanderling - both conductors of the Leningrad from 1942 or so until 1960 when Sanderling went to Berlin - was a greater musician. Well, Sanderling's music-making has always made more sense to me, much more humane, less frenetic, more 'soulfull'. The 'Dawn on the Moscow River' was Mravinsky's greatest work.
After watching the documentary I feel sad, the hated system changed his life, took away sheer happiness and only nature and music seemed to bring some of it. He demanded too much of himself, a perfectionist until the end and maybe that perfectionism was a cover for his fear. In any case, he was a great conductor but in many ways I feel sad for him as a person
Это не классическое , в плане сдержанности,это " классическое," в плане глубочайшего понимания трагедийности музыки Чайковского , в частности, 5 симфонии..
This is quite evident. Mravinskiy joined the Leningrad Philarmonic orchestra exactly in 1938, when it was one of the worst and laziest orchestras of the country. The point is that he could convert it in the best during the years of conducting!
Great conductor. Soviet? Yeah but in the elite. Anyway he was great human being, not politically involved like Gergiev, Obraztsova, Nesterenko and Temirkanov
mravinsky was not an atheist........facts and love from vienna austria........where it all began...haydn,.mozart,.beethooven,.schubert,.,.etc...................
Mravinsky was beloved in Vienna. At the end of his life, he got a lot of medical bills, and his wife was almost left penniless. The Vienna Friends of Music paid all of his medical expenses.
@@philipmay3548 that’s good to hear! It’s sad when artists who give so much pleasure fall on hard times. The Heldentenor Peter Hoffmann, for example: he (and Chereau and Boulez) created the most electrifying Act 1 of Die Walküre ever seen, and 34 years later he died in penury. Life can be very cruel.
He was obviously a master of his craft from the standpoint of being able to command the attention of an orchestra, and his knowledge of the scores he conducted was utterly comprehensive. I find some of his interpretive concepts interesting, particularly his avoidance of maudlin romantIc clichés in Tchaikovsky. Nonetheless, I have to confess that his music-making consistently strikes me as mind-numbingly pedestrian. The phrasing is rarely compelling, significant harmonic changes are plowed through without acknowledgement, and the music lacks an essential quality of being "breathed".
Mravinsky's conducting repertoire was even more limited than that of Toscanini. As for orchestral training, it was Kurt Sanderling, who made it sound great until 1960, when he left for the Berlin Symphony. It can clearly be heard in the Leningrad Phil recordings.
I am not entirely convinced by what you say of the repertoire of Toscanini Sir. Toscanini conducted a huge amount of Opera (including those by Russian and French composers). His range within each composer apart from Beethoven and Brahms was perhaps limited. Hari
I'm talking about Toscanini's symphonic repertoire and also about the fact that he ousted Mahler out of the MET, as well as Mengelberg and Klemperer out of New York. Mravinsky was a mediocre asshole. Remember the fact that he did not allow ANYONE to conduct his Leningrad Phil, including even Stravinsky in 1962, who had to conduct Leningrad Phil2, which was the Radio orchestra formed by Eliasberg. Also, none of the Leningrad conductors including Eliasberg, Rabinovich, and Music, were allowed to conduct his orchestra. He was the evil beast who was also a devoted Stalinist throughout his life.
Your observations on Mravinsky are interesting. But Mahler stopped conducting at the MET owing to illness and was insulted by the board of NYP and he left. Toscanini seems to have asked NYP to hire Mengelberg as associate conductor for the 1927 season. I have seen those letters. Something seems to have happened during one of the rehearsals in 1928. Toscanini's case as a symphonic conductor is quite fascinating. I spent some time researching this when years ago i was a student in the U.S. He seems to have conducted at most 30 wholly symphonic concerts during the first 30 years of his conducting life! And it is not up until 1925-26 he was conducting orchestral music with any regularity. Mind you he was conducting Brahms, and Debussy and some of Ravel when these composers were around. Not to mention Verdi, Puccini and Leoncavallo. The repertoire question is a much more problematic. Most of the conductors' (Nikisch, Mengelberg, Furtwangler, Walter and Klemperer) core repertoire was Beethoven and Brahms. In fact some of the great Pianists had even more smaller repertoire. But on to Mravinsky. In spite of everything his Tchaikovsky 4th and 6th are marvelous (as is his Shostakovitch (5, and 8 especially) as well as some of Bruckner and Brahms. Hari
Антисоветчиной не надо заниматься. Евгений Мравинский раскрылся именно как Советский человек а музыкант и дирижер это уже профессия. Великий человек! Творческая личность и ведать очень одинок в личной жизни был. Но очень востребован в общественной Советской среде.
Не будем заниматься гаданием если бы. Есть факт исторический именно рассвет русской а затем и Советской культуры пришлось на СССР. Евгений Мравинский реализовал себя и обогатил нашу культуру, ещё раз хочу подчёркнуть Советскую именной народную а как не крутите хвостом это класс рабочих, и он именно к нему и относился. Но были корни семейные аристократические и он хочу заметить ни когда не трындел что он аристократ. А был тружинеком профессинальным работал честно, ответственно и спрашивал с других, по этому все считали его не из миро сего.
Странное суждение о богах... И о том, что для них нужно играть... Для Яхве или для Нептуна играть, или может для Геры - не уточняют. Без людей и богов нет... Музыку играют люди и для людей: красота - в глазах смотрящего. Судя по фильму, современным либералам присуще всё время что-то перетирать, перемалывать, искажать, лгать - во всём искать неумеренность и вычурность. Начиная с богоизбранности воспитанных в теле Советов гениев (которые воспитаны, в освновном, Коммунистическим строем, правильно построенным интеллектуальным трудом и заботой о ближнем). Может атеист Ландау и Колмогоров - тоже избраны Яхве? Нет, вроде, таких несовместимых с жизнью недостатков у этих людей не наблюдается. Мера, как говорили Древние Греки, - одна из наивысших добродетелей. Она была и в Евгении Александровиче - в его чувстве ритма, в его слухе, в его тонком чувстве ткани произведений. И, да, он жил в аристократическом строе - в Советском. Который, не смотря на сильные пережитки Капитализма, является на данный момент, до достижения Человечеством Коммунизма, лучшим образцом государственности.
