You’re Not Getting True Dolby Atmos

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There's a better version of Dolby Atmos that most people aren't experiencing... In this video we'll discuss the difference between Dolby Digital Plus and Dolby True HD and how to get the most from your Soundbar or AV Receiver.
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Timestamps:
0:00 What We'll Discuss
0:15 Issues With Streaming
1:00 Atmos Audio Formats
2:19 Getting The Best Atmos
4:12 Is There A Difference?
4:52 Final Thoughts

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@pbond8827 2 года назад

Excellent job 👏🏻👍

@archwaytech 2 года назад

Thanks 😊 Glad you enjoyed it.

@jatinder156 2 года назад

@@archwaytech I bought Apple TV 4k. I have 60 inch Samsung 4k with eARC and Samsung hwq950a. How shud I connect Apple TV between the tv and soundbar?

@theepicgossegamer7734 2 года назад

@@archwaytech can you calibrate a soundbar?

@kidpoker9408 Год назад

@@archwaytech would a shield 2019 pro or non when streaming true hd give me lossless atmos if hooked up to a earc capable soundbar arc only tv? only streaming kodi through 3rd party addons no nas or should i just stick with lossy and my 4k firestick max?

@wwsvs 2 года назад

I explained this same information to a customer about a year ago. He was dead set against owning any physical media such as 4K UHD BluRays. I said ok, let's do a test. He said fine. I brought Mission Impossible: Fall-Out over as a UHD 4K Disc. I suggested he start playing the ending sequence with the hellicopters. He agreed. He streamed it and was happy. Told me it sounded amazing. I said, good. Now, let's check out the disc. So, I put in my disc and played the same sequence. His mouth dropped open. He looked at me with astonishment. After this test, he has been buying everything he can get on physical media. Plus the fact that once you buy it, you OWN it. They can't just decide to discontinue the app for your player and/or remove the movie/tv show you purchased online for whatever reason. Good video. Keep up the great work! Best Wishes!

@azismail8192 2 года назад

Yes i agree to a certain degree but imagine the amount of money you have to invest in hard copy blu ray discs, then the space of storing them vs a monthly fee, plug and play. People’s circumstances are different & having physical media over streamed is becoming less likely to the majority. Even stores have stopped selling blu rays (not all) but most have empty shelves.

@marvel626 Год назад

Or just...torrent?

@benwolfe1301 Год назад

@@marvel626 their point was that the streaming version is different than the physical copy on Blu-ray

@Adistar-gtm Год назад

@@marvel626 can you detail on that please? Download from torrent and burn it on a blu-ray disc? I have a ps4 Pro. Will that send True HD to my dolby atmos soundbar through eArc once I play the blu-ray?

@Taevas___ Год назад

@@Adistar-gtm Usually it's easier to just play those files from a USB hard drive than burn it onto a bluray disc, but I'm pretty sure it is possible to burn them onto a disk, but if you have an mkv file you'd probably have to convert it first. And anyway I don't think the PS4 supports Dolby Atmos at all

@WRX2001 2 года назад

That's why I love my physical blu ray disc the quality of sound is better than streaming services...

@adresc5391 2 года назад

True what people don't understand is that streaming the video and audio is compressed so DVD 1080p Blu-ray and 4K Blu-ray is always going to be better. The majority of Dolby Atmos mixing audio is going to be bad cuz they were in a hurry to push out that new sound system

@jeanamisilva 2 года назад

Agreed!!! 💯%%!!!

@thenonexistinghero Год назад

Probably has more to do with codecs or mastering. 500 KBPS audio is already more than what humans can hear. If it's done properly, you'll be unable to hear any difference. It's not like with image quality where there's a clear difference between between blu-ray and digital versions of the same movie.

@nureinknuddeln8419 5 месяцев назад

Actually. Dolby True HD is a compressed format. BUT it’s compressed without any loss. It’s lossless compression. Because not compressed format has way to big amount of data.

@ChrisLeiter 2 года назад

We have a casual watching area in our family room with Sony Z9D & HT-A9 w/their bigger subwoofer and just use the new Apple TV 4K in there. For everything else, I use a Sony X 800m2 4K uhd player in my theater. 135” screen, denon 6500h running 7.2.4 (in-ceiling Atmos channels) in a light and sound controlled 16x18 room. The difference between streaming services and TrueHD is huge imo.

@sulumonlives4932 2 года назад

It's disheartening that people don't know or care about better audio. Sound has always been that unseen factor that many a proclaimed "Cinephile" or home theater fans don't focus on when discussing and/ or recommending films for viewing and/or purchase. I think hardcore audiophiles either intimidate or turn off potential, casual enthusiasts with their expensive, high-end set ups. But I'll tell ya, for the same price as a decent 65"+ TV you can also get an adequate sound system as well(piecemeal). Personally, for me, sound comes first(is the audio track popping) then I worry about stuff like HDR/Dolby vision, 4k transfers and the like. Great sound is transformative. If you're doing it right, the actual air in your viewing space moves and make noise where the effect is happening on screen. Example: the scene where Spider-Man meets Electro in "No Way Home," if you close your eyes you can feel/hear the air in your room move with the various lightning strikes in the scene. People think great sound is about shaking/booming and clarity (when the volume is up) but I'll never forget when I finally found that magic calibration that made even the most mundane audio track sing. I'm rambling but here it is: DON'T FORGO PHYSICAL MEDIA FOR STREAMING(if you can afford no to).

@archwaytech 2 года назад

Well said 😁

@sebulbathx 2 года назад

Dolby TrueHD usually sounds better overall because of being lossless. But DD+ works well for streaming and I think it's nice that they provide this because then you can get Atmos from more content.

@archwaytech 2 года назад

100% Agree! DD+ opens up for more people to experience Atmos

@userwest626 2 года назад

@@archwaytech atmos is lossssy, trueHD, DTS:X, are lossless.

@DoctorScent 2 года назад

@@userwest626 your comment does not make sense.

@AexoeroV Год назад

@@userwest626 Atmos can come in lossy format or lossless format, if you get Atmos from dolby digital plus you'll get it lossy, Atmos from a Dolby TrueHD track is lossless. Clear now?

@HardForceNL Год назад

@@userwest626 say you don't know what you're talking about, without telling you don't know...

@dusterbuster 2 года назад

New Subscriber. Now that football is over, I’ll use the next 5 months catching up on the movies I missed. I learned more in this 5 minute video than I have learned in the past 4 months searching for a soundbar and sub. Its not flashy or overwhelming- just concise and simple.

@Alexandroskollias1 2 года назад

There isn't such thing like "true atmos". All objects, which are 118 and not 128, can successfully reproduced with DD+ & TrueHD formats. Also there isn't such thing like "studio quality" in home entertainment. Just to mention that a Dolby Atmos full uncompressed 4 minutes music file is almost 4TB. Here we are talking about 2 hours movies. Also, it's impossible to reproduce Atmos content at homes the way it's reproduced in studios and commercial cinemas. At these places we have 118 individual objects and in our homes we have clusters of sounds. The Dolby renderer that process the objects inside home gear cannot reproduce 118 individual sounds. For that reason studio exports for home entertainment are 7.1.4 plus 20 objects. These 20 objects are more like clusters and not individual objects. The Dolby renderer inside ProTools "collects" sounds from "same directions" and reproduce them as one cluster. For that reason 5 let's say individual objects (that means 5 individual waveforms from different placements) will become one waveform for one (perhaps two) speakers. The final result is almost the same, but not studio or Cinema quality.

@jb7753 2 года назад

First video of yours that I've come across. Good video, detailed and simplified making it easy to understand, this was everything I already knew from doing heap of research before goingwith my sonos setup but this video would have been great back then. I'm running the set up with the HDFury for my earc port always back physical media over streaming. I'm lucky I have a 100mbps internet speed and feel that I'm getting close to physical media 4k and atmos sound through streaming but again, if I can go with physical media I would everytime.

@DeMency Год назад

I have HW-q800b soundbar with 2 extra rear speakers. Tris are conected with my qn90b tv with hdmi eARC. The question is… which format in my tv sound settings should i go.. PCM or AUTO?? Pls help

@dj.excess 2 года назад

This explains it so damn well for those that never had a clue. I thank god, already knew all this. But love all the 411 in one video. Good Job!

@bikdav Месяц назад

I was confused also. Now, I feel better about getting away with Dolby Digital Plus.

@HardForceNL Год назад

People always ask, why you're taking the disc while it's on Netflix/Prime etc. Guess I'll send them this video over, so i don't have to explain over and over. Not only because of the better audio, also better picture quality. And My 4K Blu-Ray player has 2 HDMI outputs, one dedicated for audio only , also an improvement over the Audio/Video HDMI. One can do the Video, the other goes into the AVR Audio only..

@kevinor8811 2 года назад

Love your videos. I’m not an audiophile but I’m searching for the best sound I can get in my modest movie room with a decent UST projector so I find your straightforward and accessible information really useful. So thanks from Ireland 👍🏻

@archwaytech 2 года назад

Thanks Kevin. I really appreciate that feedback. Which UST projectors have you been looking at? I setup a Samsung Premiere a couple months ago and they’re an awesome mix between a Smart TV and projector but very pricey. There’s definitely other more budget options from the likes of Benq that will give you an awesome picture without the smarts.

@kevinor8811 2 года назад

@@archwaytech I’ve the xiaomi 4K and I’m currently using a Yamaha 5.1 but due to the layout of the room I’ve only ever been able to use it’s virtual cinema front layout (all speakers at the front of the room) I’m about to get the Samsung 950a as I think it’ll be the best bang for my buck.

@archwaytech 2 года назад

Is that a laser projector? Xiaomi are making some great products atm.

@kevinor8811 2 года назад

@@archwaytech yeah it’s a laser. the Mijia 4K. Very happy with it especially for the price.

@TheReverendSlim 2 года назад

The home version of Atmos doesn't support 128 objects, only the theatrical version. The theatrical mix is converted down so that objects near each other are grouped together or pre-panned between static objects to keep the object count down to around 15. This is true for both streaming and disc, and the only difference is less precision/spatial resolution.

@Polyh3dron 2 года назад

Neither version supports 128 objects. It’s a total of 128 channels, at least 9 of them being a 7.1.2 bed in theatrical, and at least 8 of them being a 7.1 bed in the home version (maybe you can do a 5.1 bed on the home version but I’ve never tried).. either way, not all 128 of those channels are available to be objects.

@TheReverendSlim 2 года назад

@@Polyh3dron Actually, it isn't "channels" at all with Atmos. It's objects. In the theatrical version, you still essentially have the legacy channels (meaning it uses all speakers in that zone of the array) but they are represented as the first 10 reserved objects in the interface. Those objects are zone-constrained, meaning the "side surround" object would play back from every speaker in the side surround zone. You then also have 118 steerable objects that can move between individual speakers (or if i assign the parameter, be limited to a particular zone). The "channels" would then be the number of speakers the renderer has available to output those objects irrespective of the number of objects used in the mix. The home version tends to max out at 15 objects for bandwidth/scaling purposes, but you are correct that 9 of them are dedicated to the defined channel positions. They aren't "channels" anymore though, as the renderer can shift them as needed based on the available speakers (so for instance, if you have 5.1.4, the object at the rear surround position in the mix outputs to the side surround channel but the object at the side surround position images between the L/R and side surrounds as if you had a speaker there). The LFE channel is carried over from the bed layer of the bitstream (and is technically the only thing strictly re-used from the bed layer) and doesn't use an available object. The DD+ version of Atmos for streaming actually does use a 5.1 bed. The point here being that the theatrical mix's 128 objects gets converted down for the home version such that it doesn't use more than 15 objects. You don't lose any of the object data in the process, since it is combined with other objects using grouping (and the occasional shift of objects in the defined channel positions off of their positions dynamically to hand off a sound to another adjacent object using pre-panning).

@vadimkrylov 2 года назад

@@TheReverendSlim 128 objects it’s just in theory. Have you seen such a mix in reality? No.

@TheReverendSlim 2 года назад

@@vadimkrylov 1. None of us have access to the theatrical mix to know. 2. The interface for the Atmos plugin literally has 128 objects with the first 10 reserved. Not a theory. It's what's available to the sound designer. 3. It doesn't matter for the home version of the mix because it all gets grouped down to about 15 objects anyway (or in many cases, 9 objects with pre-panning applied by the downconversion). 4. That last thing doesn't matter in a small space because you don't need the spatial resolution you would in a larger space to get the same effect.

@ChrisHVACguy 6 месяцев назад

Does anybody have official sources for these statements, id love to find out what's true.

@jacklamata2544 2 месяца назад

Hi, I have a question; if may TV kann Do Dolby atmos, but the avr doesn't! It's possible via hdmi arc to get that audio to the receiver?

@RafaMazurekRMZ 2 года назад

I did try it and I don't get it - is DTS plus compress it like mp3 is compressed compered to flac or is it compressed dynamic? From my experience it is compressed dynamic and I much prefere it over trueHD - sound from this is super agressive and it stears away attention from the movie itself to a sound. It might be different story in other enviroment tho. I use plex nvidia setup with 7.1 - no atmos for now but DTSvstrueHD comparison is still same.

@josephfranzen5626 2 года назад

I’ve always used actual removable media via my Panasonic UB-9000 or UB-900 connected to my Triniov Processor and 16 channel Perlisten setup. I’ve tested streams vs the actual disc and there’s clear differences in the dynamic range as well as object placement accuracy and this is using what’s at the moment the cutting edge of Atmos in home technology. Atmos from a sound bar is better than no Atmos at all, however the upward firing speakers depend greatly on the acoustical materials in the room as well as the actual in room performance of the bouncy house speakers which you can measure with a USB mic like a UMIK-1 and the free application REW. Switching from upward firing speakers to actual speakers placed according to the Dolby white paper is a night and day difference if you’re able to go to on/in ceiling speakers. I can’t do in ceilings but have had great success using on ceiling speakers.

@RJ-xj3ct 2 года назад

how you liking the perlistens?

@michaelbeckerman7532 3 месяца назад

Most people won't ever go to the trouble of installing in-ceiling speakers if their media room wasn't already set up with those when the house was built. So, they get as close as they can without having to perform any major surgery on the theater room.

@christianlandmann9759 Год назад

Hello, do i really need a Nvidia shield for plex to passtrough trueHD? Why cant i Just use plex on my LG c2 and passtrough the audio?

@sj460162 Год назад

Thanks for explaining this. I have definately heard a difference. Blueray seems far superior after trying the same film on prime and blueray. The base and dynamic range seemed far superior on disc. I guess its like you said, theres more data on the disc.

@arthurwatts1680 Год назад

Thanks for the video. When I bought the Shield TV, the 2019 model was already a couple of years old but unlike most tech it is still very capable.

@omhehe1 10 месяцев назад

If I downloaded an atmos blueray film from torrentz and save it to a computer, can i just connect the hdmi from computer to earc atmos soundbar to get atmos experience? I have samsung q990b soundbar.

@christiananher 2 года назад

Absolutely true. Dolby and others channels upload videos supposedly with atmos formats, but youtube only encode/decode for 2 channels PCML. Otherwise you only get virtualized atmos but not real, like the soundbars or some phone with headphones does. I think we only get real dolby atmos in selected cinemas and nowhere else...

@niftytwisty2142 2 года назад

Great video on getting the best Atmos signal to the speakers, but that's only half the story. Many setups still have very stunted Atmos experience even with uncompressed formats because they use upfiring speakers or worse a soundbar with virtualized surround sound. Even with perfect surfaces for bouncing sound off ceilings (typically a condition to be avoided or minimize with acustic treatments) you get a very diminished effect compared to actual on/in-ceiling speaker placement. The difference is huge.

@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr 2 года назад

I just have the little svs speakers that come with a ceiling bracket. I like em, but they are on the ceiling, instead of in it. Lol

@michaelbeckerman7532 3 месяца назад

This mostly comes down to budget. Most customers will set a budget limit of X dollars and will simply not go above that amount no matter what. Then they just figure, "Whatever I can get for that amount of money is good enough for me."

@vijay336 2 года назад

At the risk of offending many, I would say that the true Home theater purists are always so defensive in proving that true Cinematic Atmos experience only comes from having a multi speaker setup and are quick to bash soundbars in general. Truth is that majority of the general audience cannot differentiate between true lossless vs lossy, DD+ vs Atmos vs Dolby True HD unless specifically comparing both streams side by side. Soundbars with dedicated rears, upfiring speakers from mid range and above can do a great job for providing a good cinematic audio experience at home without the hassles of multi speaker setup, tuning in a limited space. Test /Demo products in your price bracket yourselves, read the spec sheets for ensuring feature set required and decide rather than blindly following any online advice n disregarding any type of systems due to preconceived notions by the golden ears! Cheers.

@archwaytech 2 года назад

Well Said 👏

@user-gf8wd3hx7r Год назад

Is eARC can passthrough Dolby TrueHD? If I am not mistaken it support up to Dolby Digital ~1,5 Mbps

@shoeprano27 2 года назад

hello. if resources are available, can you do a video of connecting a fire, an nvidia sheild pro and a soundbar? i feel like no matter what i do, i am not getting my full potential. i have a sony hts350.

@muzaffercrazyrooster 5 месяцев назад

Hı. I have a 4k Android TV box with HDMI eARC 2.1 output at my home. If I start a soundbar with Dolpy Atmos feature, will Dolpy Atmos work?

@Robertorossell 10 месяцев назад

Thanks for this video

@covidbrian4263 Год назад

Hi I wonder to know is ps5 Blu-ray Disc able to handle true hd without passing through pcm? Cause Apple TV seemed to be functioning through pcm. Plus, ps5 can be a Blu-ray player except for the Dolby vision or some unspecific details, right?

@Frankaccino Год назад

The only way to passthrough Dolby TrueHD / DTS Master Audio tracks with a PS5 is if you set your Blu-ray player app to output Bitstream. This is how I’ve been able to watch my 4K Blu-rays on my console, minus the niceties like dynamic HDR formats (HDR10+/Dolby Vision.)

@GunnyPhillips 2 года назад

If you're using a soundbar you're not getting Dolby Atmos [or even True HD] period. Individual, properly placed speakers are essential to Atmos and any other discrete surround format.

@stckyjoey1 2 года назад

I only use a sound bar in the bedroom but the living room and man cave is cluttered with speakers 😉😜👍

@inigogc Год назад

That’s not true. There are some sound bars, which either have or allow the addition of extra speakers to get more Atmos

@Toni_De_Arcadia 2 года назад

This comes up on my JBL 9.1 screen when I connect it to my Xbox series X/LG CX - Dolby Atmos Multi-Ch PCM. So no idea if what you are mentioning is available for my set up lol.

@Jonathan1003 2 года назад

This might be a stupid question but is there a difference in audio quality between the physical blu ray disc and the digital copy of the movie that came with it? It’s not exactly streaming since it’s saved locally but I always redeem the digital copy and just watch it the movies from the blu ray disc

@walter2695 Год назад

I assume that playing the audio straight from the disc will always be superior to playing it over a digital copy. Since he mentions that the streaming and digital copy companies use compressed files to fit more on there servers. Imagine popping in a cd in your car stereo then playing that same album via bluetooth from your phone. im sure you will have to turn up the volume to reach the same sound level as the cd playing directly from the stereo.

@amjadali-tv3si 9 месяцев назад

What is mean by " dobly atmos/pcm" displaying on av receiver screen?

@upenderch7917 11 месяцев назад

How to get Atmos in soundbar from tv which both tv soundbar contains only ARC port without using any extra support.

@upendrasingh1234 Год назад

Very informative video. Please help me how to get Dolby TruHD over streaming. Does Plex supports Dolby TruHD?

@spaceodds1985 2 года назад

Hi, I have a query. I have a Q950A I am connecting the soundbar to an LG OLED via an ARC port. In one of the output ports of the soundbar I have connected an HDR 4K Fire Stick, is it more likely that the Dolby Atmos audio output going to be using DD+ as a base or Dolby True HD? Thanks in advance

@josephfranzen5626 2 года назад

Most streaming services use Dolby Digital Plus with Atmos MAT. It’s a lossy format. The lossless format is generally only available on an actual disc. I’ve watched John Wick 3 on both a streaming device and the actual UHD disc on a Panasonic UB-9000 A/B comparison style. There’s clear differences in not only dynamic range but overall quality in relation to the removable media.

@adaboy4z 2 года назад

I noticed on my old Marantz DVD player using optical the soundtrack was more in depth and full of sounds vs streaming a movie.

@TheNextFreud 2 года назад

If I buy the following setup, will I be getting the full potential out of 4k Blu ray movies? Visio 5.1 m512a-h6 surround sound, a LG CX (or newer C1) OLED TV, and an Xbox Series X.

@MasterOfWindTributes 2 года назад

Hello if I connect my Ps5 with my Samsung Soundbar q950a will it play Dolby Atmos and dts? Or do I need a 4K player ?

@vijays7043 2 года назад

Ps5 can play dolby atmos soundtrack from movie discs and you won't need a seperate 4k player. Just after playing the disc, dolby atmos needs to be selected from options

@WarmPillowForever Год назад

Barely understand this sounds world but this guy a genius

@deenyc1049 Год назад

Plex only gets atmos if you go through an streaming device like an Nvidia Shield?

@gowthamk5392 2 года назад

Plex in fire stick does decod atmos!? I m playing 7.1 true hd atmos but i can hardly hear frm my heights!?!

@samuelappiah1739 2 года назад

Can I get dolby atmos from my bh9540tw home theater

@tjustinjackson 2 года назад

Good video. In talking to an audio store owner even on my Sonos Arc I probably won’t be able to tell the difference in Atmos over DD+ vs True. He said if you have dedicated height channels with isolated speakers then yes it makes a difference. So knowing that and most things are via streaming I’m fine with DD+ Atmos for now. I debated getting a HD fury but for the time being I just switch to my Roku for Atmos over ARC and switch back to my Apple TV when it doesn’t have Atmos since Atmos will work via DD+ over ARC. Maybe one day when I get an eARC tv I will see if I can tell a difference.

@yvanokuba1649 2 года назад

A combination of a 2021 or 2022 Samsung QLED or NeoQLED tv and a Samsung Q950A should give u what u are you looking for.

@2kBofFun 9 месяцев назад

I have the idea the main reason eArc exists is because of license and encrytion certificate handshakes. HDMI by itself was long time capable of pass through of high bitrate content. So it is mainly a money-making and anti-copy tech, not for audio quality. My majority of Blu Rays are DTS-MA at 3000kbps, and that is plenty of sound quality without too complex codecs, so they can be decoded freely into 192kHz 32bit PCM when needed.

@thisisobviouslybait 6 месяцев назад

HDMI has a transfer rate so far beyond what is needed. HDMI 2.1 is 48Gbps that's laughably beyond the overhead you could ever need for audio with 8k resolution video even at frame rates beyond the 24 that tv/movies are filmed at(8k @24fps requires just shy of 18Gbs). 192khz 24 bit audio has a bitrate of 9216 kbps which is significantly better quality than what 99.9% of audio that makes it into the hands of consumers (cd quality is only 1,411 kbps). This is literally a bullshit product that only exists to milk customers due to the lack of information. This isn't the only bullshit being peddled here and in general in this area of consumer electronics.

@michaelbeckerman7532 3 месяца назад

@@thisisobviouslybait True, but HDMI 2.1 brings much more to the table than just additional bandwidth over HDMI 2.0. That's only one of its benefits.

@andrewobrien9467 7 месяцев назад

Can you explain the comment you made that for audio , you need to look for a player with “True HD “ labels on the device ? I am not that interested in video quality from a BluRay player , my TV is not high-end . However , I do want to obtain a player that gives me . the best Dolby Atmos transfer rates possible . A lot of the players I have Googled do not mention Dolby True HD . I do have eARC on the soundbar and the TV has ARC HDMI. I am mostly interested in music in Dolby Atmos .

@MuhammadArshad92 2 года назад

Good job in informing people who might not know this. Itunes/HBO max atmos movies do not hold a candle to a proper blu ray atmos. Best example is the Godzilla and Kong movies. GvK was horrible on HBO max while it shaked my house and was so much more dynamic on blu ray. HBO max one sounded so stale.

@padgettga 2 года назад

If you use Apple TV + or Itunes movies the Atmos and HDR is WAY better than the other streaming apps.

@xXlap189Xx 2 года назад

I've been using Plex now for about 6 months now dew to both the audio issues and jittery pan shots from the online players not sinking the refresh rate. My biggest issue with the Plex player is when I'm watching something on directly from my computer to my HDR projector it won't properly do HDR. It just changes the colors to make it look right but it's not HDR. I notice when I stream with plex and I'm watching something on thing on the TV downstairs HDR works but if I play directly off my computer HDR is not working I have to use another player which is annoying. Anyone know how to get this working? I saw A Linus review on an alienware monitor and he was using plex and I'm assuming he was going straight to the monitor and not streaming and he was testing the HDR so I'm assuming it's possible just haven't been able to get it to work. HDR works great on my pc when I use media player classic with all my plug ins but I do really like the interface of Plex. Reddit forms have helped.

@xXlap189Xx 2 года назад

I also don't like Kodi. I tried to I really did. At that stage I will just keep watching HDR content though medal player classic. I don't want to setup a sheld in my in the same room as my pc ether. That would also complicat my audio set up.

@HydraSpectre1138 2 года назад

There is also Dolby Digital EX, that outputs 6.1 within a 5.1 container.

@bikdav Месяц назад

That’s true. But, Archway Tech is talking about atmos with the height and overhead sound channels.

@walter2695 Год назад

Pretty simple test will be to just play the 4k disc on a set volume level. Lets say at 10. Then stream the same movie at level 10. You will notice a difference. The stream will not me as loud as the player if they are set to the same volume level.

@mcdk72 Год назад

You can also pass through on pcm. It's device specifik.

@VirtuousContract 2 года назад

So I have a question I have the Sony oled a9G but have a older receiver onkyo NR636 that does not have HDR past through but supports Dolby atmos for me to get HDR I need to connect my tv to the receiver using arc for sound and my ps5/appletv straight to the tv am I doing this wrong or its the right way lol am I getting Dolby atmos this way ?

@jb7753 2 года назад

Is that the tx-nr636? I don't exactly understand how you have your cable configuration set up...... apple tv 4k only has 1 hdmi out out doesn't it? So that is going into your receiver yes? Then from there you are going into your tv?

@xanderx9988 2 года назад

Great job explaining this. I always felt like the audio tracks sounded like crap on Netflix. Thanks for advice! 👍

@d1m1tr1s1984 2 года назад

Hello thank you a lot for the videos, there are very interesting and clarify a lot of my questions. I would like to ask you a question that confuses me a lot. I have a Samsung qe65q70r (2019 model) and I would like to buy a q950a soundbar. Will I have Dolby Atmos sound by Netflix content? Because from what I have read Q70r has an ark HDMI port so does not support Dolby Atmos. In that case, if I will buy an Apple tv or google Chromecast tv and connect it to the soundbar, and the soundbar to the tv will I have the same result or it will improve the Dolby Atmos experience at all. In any case, have you any other suggestions - solutions for me? thank you in advance continue the nice quality work 😉

@zxmonkeyzx 2 года назад

Yes you will get Dolby Atmos from Netflix. I have the Q70R aswell and a q950t soundbar.

@o.c.g.m9426 Год назад

I used to watch & rewatch John Wick 2 & 3 streaming. Then I brought it and rewatched it OMG the rain scenes & the shootout scene in part 2. I actually hear blood splatter ewwwww

@diypapahoy Год назад

if i have dolby atmos tv and i plug in into sound bar with no dolby atmos feature , what will happen? thx

@archwaytech Год назад

If you’re playing something that’s in Atmos on your TV It will give your Soundbar the highest quality sound the soundbar can play. Often that’s Dolby Digital 5.1, which still gives you surround sound if your Soundbar has rear speakers.

@jamesm568 3 месяца назад

Every time my receiver says DD Plus it won't play the height channels.

@polishdude001 2 года назад

I have earc tv and sound system with reference first man atmos disc. It’s pretty awesome.

@MattZiggy 2 года назад

What about services like VUDU? Same issue as Netflix, etc?

@waxtapecdeater 2 месяца назад

can dolby atmos be display from 1.4 hdmi audio out port

@bikdav Месяц назад

Evidently, 1.4 won’t work. Dolby Atmos requires HDMI 2.0 or higher due to bandwidth.

@OMGtheykilledKenny42 5 месяцев назад

I can say for sure that my Samsung HW-Q800B 5.1.2 soundbar is really up to the task of lossless Atmos! Only thing missing is the rear speaker kit!

@timowthie 2 месяца назад

Have you been able to select the atmos track with movies? Get get it with bladerunner 2049

@44pakattack 3 дня назад

I have the 800 c with rear kit. Makes a huge difference.

@timowthie 3 дня назад

@@44pakattack do you really hear sound from above?

@44pakattack 3 дня назад

@timowthie honest answer . No you don't. You will hear the sound around you. With the rear speakers.. true atmos is if you ha e proper speakers installed top of ceiling but that package will get very costly.

@timowthie 3 дня назад

@@44pakattack how high are you ceilings? Ive noticed i mostly hear sound from above (bose bar 600) if there isnt a lot of other sound effects in the movie

@sarmadsaghir9147 2 года назад

Hello. Is LG SP11RA for 900 USD a good deal? Worth it?

@av_rob79 2 года назад

My tv and av-receiver both only have ARC, can I still get lossless Dolby Atmos?

@archwaytech 2 года назад

If your AV receiver supports lossless Atmos then you can plug a blu ray player straight in the HDMI IN of the amp and that will give you lossless Atmos. You’ll need to check your Amps spec sheet for that info.

@danmilr 2 года назад

There is one thing you might not have noticed. Atmos is virtually non-existent on Blu-Ray. UHD Blu-Ray, absolutely. For example, none of the Marvel Studios titles have Atmos on the BD, only on the UHD-BD. So you need a UHD Blu-Ray Player along with the discs to appreciate the best that Atmos can offer for the home. The difference is night and day between Atmos on hard media vs streaming, but it isn't as simple as it sounds. Even plex requires ripping UHD Blu-Ray which takes up roughly twice the space and streaming bandwidth on your network and in many cases poses other difficulties.

@blkinvestor 10 месяцев назад

my tv is only ARC if i get an earc soundbar will i still get Dolby TRUhD?

@danielweiss4498 9 месяцев назад

@richardburton8115 7 месяцев назад

I have the same problem, I have a AVR that has earc and a SONOS ARC, can I use it in some way to get TRUE HD or unsuppressed ATMOS??? Can anyone help answer ??? @@danielweiss4498

@azismail8192 2 года назад

Hi, i have an Onkyo TX-NR828, just checked the stats and I believe it allows for Dolby True HD. However when i play Netflix/Disney+ etc, the receiver automatically switches to Dolby Digital Plus? How would i change it to True HD please?

@archwaytech 2 года назад

Hey Az, you can't get Dolby True HD from streaming services... they only support DD+. Cheers

@azismail8192 2 года назад

@@archwaytech So i need to buy physical media in order to sample Dolby TrueHD? What movie would you recommend as i would like to test the difference myself. Thanks

@glenn4452 2 года назад

Very interesting.

@rajeshdhimancul 2 года назад

Just got to know that Tidal would support DD+ Atmos for music on Apple tv 4k and nvidia shield, and some TVs such as Sony and Phillips.

@vantablack_official 2 года назад

TIDAL at this moment don't using DD+ Atmos, because this is lossy format, there are lossless music - mostly in FLAC (and Atmos is in a more undefined format (for ordinary user) )

@TurpInTexas Год назад

Great job explaining the various aspects of ATMOS, but one major thing is missing. Considering you are presenting on RU-vid, where there are many ATMOS demo's and test tracks that people are naturally going to try to use to test their own ATMOS setups, it is important to let your followers know that RU-vid down mixes those ATMOS demo's into plain vanilla STEREO which obliterates the ATMOS information. I recall after getting my ATMOS system attempting to test using these bogus RU-vid ATMOS demos and test tracks and thinking something was wrong with my system. After doing a bit of digging I learned what I was doing wrong, using RU-vid as my test source. I eventually found some websites with ATMOS tracks, downloaded them and they play wonderfully using my computer Windows Movie and TV player app. Also note, that not all Windows video players are equal either, some can play ATMOS, some can't. Be sure to watch the display on your ATMOS receiver to see what works and what doesn't.

@51bpm 2 года назад

Well done.... Rare info

@archwaytech 2 года назад

Thanks David. 😀 Glad you found it helpful.

@nathanhill9006 2 года назад

I’m itching to get Dune at home since watching it at the cinema. I’m considering starting to buy Apple TV versions of movies vs 4K UHD discs. Two reasons: 1. Impatience 2. Continually upgrading. Apple upgrade what I buy after I buy it. Eg HD DD5.1 versions of films have become UHD HDR ATMOS versions of the movie. I’m using a 55 Samsung QLED (doesn’t support Dolby Vision but does HD10+) and a 7.1.4 Atmos Monitor Audio Reference system powered by Denon Atmos amp and a stereo amp for the rear Atmos speakers. Does the Apple route seem reasonable or do I keep buying discs (I have thousands of DVDs) and ultimately end up with an out of date 4K Disc library worth zip???

@TecnoTyler 2 года назад

Even on Apple TV (which is the highest quality streaming service widely available), “4K” is really closer to a 1080p Blu-Ray, because of the same compression mentioned in the video. Still, the convenience is hard to deny. Most of my movies are on Apple TV, but I’m willing to purchase my favorites on UHD Blu-Ray.

@Dummatzen 2 года назад

People will always choose convenience over quality every time. Or should I say Sheeple. They swallow all the sales pitches and think they have the next best thing. People buy huge tv's and take them home and don't give a second thought about on how to connect it for best sound and picture. They want small speakers, if any, with no cables and think that they can reproduce big cinema sound. They want to stream instead of buying the movies on discs which is still the best way to watch a film at home. Caleidoscope not counted since it is WAY over priced.

@keithknechg3217 Год назад

Question: went into expert settings on samsung tv( couple years old ,at least it has arc.settings,notes say dolby atmos only enabled when dolby digital + is enabled yet it says unavailable .but it does have a dolby atmos enable toggle,when this is turned on does this mean dolby digital is enabled as well?unfortunately this model was purchased before e arc and i,m not buying a new one.4k ultra hd is just fine for my 64 yr old eyes.

@archwaytech Год назад

What Model is the TV?

@keithknechg3217 Год назад

@@archwaytech un55ru7 300f/ curved screen.bought it fast/ "older" (amazon) model...needed a new tv asap.

@keithknechg3217 Год назад

Just wondering if i might get true atmos connecting the samsung 900b to the router instead of through the tv,aparently the wifi capability is in the 900 b.we have fiber optic from the street to the router.no hdmi outs on the router that i can see.thanx much ,love the vids btw..

@archwaytech Год назад

Couple things to try: If you've got the Q990B then play 6 underground on Netflix (with a premium subscription) as I know that one is mixed in Atmos and it should give you the option to select Dolby Digital + in the settings. It might even automatically choose it like it did with my Samsung TV. If you want to get True Atmos from your Q990B then watch this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-c5ZtRA1xHEI.html It'll walk you through other ways to setup your Soundbar and I'd suggest using method 2 in your case. Hope that helps.

@keithknechg3217 Год назад

@@archwaytech thanks much.guess i need to purchase a new blu ray player to test.not much into hard copies of dvd anymore.basically wanting to scrape out the best audio available on streaming,i fully understand the limitations of this type of media.compressed files are standard issue on most streaming apps.no netflix here just dis + discovery paramount and prime video.streaming prices keep going up up up.😭

@DdoubleU Год назад

Uncompressed movie files are huge. So plex route can get very expensive when you need to buy storage

@andreemilsen369 Год назад

I find the difference between streaming and disc (blueray), is night and day. It is so much better on the disc, more detail and dynamics...

@daisylou71 7 месяцев назад

can’t understand the name of the device that you show with hdmi in and out from the other side and earc ? you say it very quickly!

@archwaytech 7 месяцев назад

It’s called the HDFury Arcana: geni.us/o5LFK

@andysummersthxcinemaandmyc7748 2 года назад

1:19 bs none of this is bit for bit studio that is a total load of re-recording mixer hollywood mixers lies , they are mixes that have been tampered with into a near field , what you didn't know this

@technofeeliak Год назад

Yeah well, I backup my Blu ray films and remove the Master HD audio because that often doubles the size of the files. My little Logitech computer 5.1 surround system is great!!! I mean, really great!!! Watching on my 75" TV from my movieJukebox PC is the best way to access my store bought movie collection. I get the best image quality that's about as good as Blu ray too... using Handbrake I save the video as an MP4 and reduce the file size from 20 or even 30+ GB to under 10 GB. And this way I can get over 600 films backed up on one 4 TB HDD.

@kobaltstaub287 Год назад

I recently bought a firestick to play Atmos content from Amazon.... there's like NO Atmos content on Amazon, you can't even stream Amazon music in Dolby digital surround if you set your firestick to best sound available, you manually have to switch to D.D. surround otherwise all the music will be streamed stereo, what a bummer.... (I have a Denon 3700H 7.1.4 setup)

@user-dy6kh4qs7h Год назад

Can you tell me the best way to connect these devices for true Atmos or best quality. TV: LG CX 65inch XBOX Series X Bose 900 Soundbar - Bose 700 bass module - Bose surround sound speakers Currently i connected bose 900 soundbar to TV HDMI e-arc port 120HZ

@archwaytech Год назад

Bose 900 to eARC port on TV. Xbox to anyone of the other HDMI ports on the TV. Bass module 700 and surround speakers connected through the Bose Music App. For dolby true HD you need to play blu ray discs through the Xbox... Streaming services won't give you True HD as I outlined in the video.

@user-dy6kh4qs7h Год назад

@@archwaytech Awesome - thats how i did it - thank you. I see a lot of difference when i purchase movies in apple TV app on LG TV - 30$ a movie if they are not doing the real deal better i spend on blueray disks instead

@sadul Год назад

Now all we need is good new movies.

@drishvin 2 года назад

Makes perfect sense now. No wonder when I was streaming it off the Series X it sounds more fuller/richer as compared to running it off the TV app itself. Thanks and keep up the awesome content.

@diebackmischung503 2 года назад

Xbox series are louder than tvs or a ps5 I got both and compared them (without atmos tho)

@florichi 2 года назад

"Streaming it off..." So you mean you streamed the same movie on the TV app and the Xbox from the same streaming service? Mate, you compared DD+ to DD+. There is no Dolby TrueHD in streaming, only DD+

@andrebradley1924 Год назад

How about if you download a movie with dolby atmos

@thenonexistinghero Год назад

The problem is.. is that this video is just theory and not reality. The reality is that most people cannot hear the difference between lossless audio and lossy audio (assuming it's not trash quality lossy audio), even with the best equipment. There may be a very small audible difference for some content that some people could notice when making a direct comparison under ideal conditions. But fact of the matter is, is that no one is watching under ideal conditions outside of test situations as as such, no one is pretty much able tell any difference. And I'm not talking about home theater testing, but actual 100K+ studios specifically meant for it.

@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr 2 года назад

Lol, I'm getting Atmos. I'm not sure if you other people are. Kudos if you've checked out any of the Turbine Media Atmos exclusives: Twister, Daylight, Dragonheart, Pitch Black. 😆

@rajeshdhimancul 2 года назад

I just wish either Plex make their app more polished on xbox or Kodi on Xbox add HDR support. Current version is very laggy and stuttery for lossless audios on Plex and Kodi doesn't support HDR on xbox. Cuz I don't want to spend another $200 for Nvidia shield Pro.

@florichi 2 года назад

Comparing DD+ or TrueHD is unimportant if 80% of the releases use the 3D aspect in a few hand picket scenes over the whole movie. There are only a few very good mixes out there, the majority is bad. American Sniper, Transformers or San Adreas for example. And don't get me started on the problem of the German audience, where only every 4th US Dolby Atmos release gets a German atmos track. While you get D True HD we even only get DD 5.1, because there is a need to fit 15 other languages onto the disk too.

@absolutium 2 года назад

TRUE HD is important due to compression not because of 3D... Since both are capable of two axis surround sound the main benefit comes from the lossless audio either if it has enough "surround effects" or not that is irrelevant for the comparison.

@heavenlyxtacy 2 года назад

Can you please tell me if I use a Apple tv 4k with high end soundbar and fast internet speed like 200 mbps, will I get Dolby True HD or will it be still the same?

@archwaytech 2 года назад

Unfortunately the Apple TV 4K doesn’t output TrueHD at all. You need a blu ray player or home server to play TrueHD.

@MrViper7121 2 года назад

Streaming services don't use Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD Master Audio. Only dolby digital plus.

@jb7753 2 года назад

The 2021 apple tv 4k outputs atmos if you have it selected in the menu setting.

@heavenlyxtacy 2 года назад

@@archwaytech thank you for the reply

@heavenlyxtacy 2 года назад

@@MrViper7121 oh no use then having all those equipments

@LuLszic 2 года назад

For people who doesn't have full systems like 5.1 or 7.1, I think Apple TV 4K is the best for Dolby Atmos or even Dolby Vision and HDR for streaming. I compared my Apple TV 4K and that latest Nvidia Shield Pro 4K with streaming apps like Apple TV, Netflix, Amazon that supports Dolby Atmos movies on EARC and the Apple TV 4K sounds so much better than Nvidia Shield Pro 4K.

@TecnoTyler 2 года назад

Apple TV has the highest bitrate for streaming video compared to the other major services, so it makes sense that the audio would be better too.

@HeidiPyke Год назад

I'm so bummed to hear this. I thought my Shield was the best. 😔

@Johnny2Feathers Год назад

No one could tell the difference between dolby digital plus and Dolby true hd. I’ve tested this so many times on friends claiming they could hear the difference … basically they guess that their listening to the wrong one half the one 🤣

@Lordvoldemore 8 месяцев назад

So the Xbox x plays true HD atmos?

@jeffleonard343 6 месяцев назад

Yes! In your audio settings you’ll want to trigger the Audio Passthrough option as True! This will pass any audio tracks onto your receiver or soundbar to figure out the audio track.

@kennethcpz 2 года назад

4K Ultra HD is the only way to go and it looks like Tidal has Dolby TrueHD Atmos for it's Atmos music

@michaelwyckoff7593 2 года назад

We are not getting true Dolby Vision either when we are streaming content. Do you agree?

@ashikulislam2880 2 года назад

Deep truth

@benheyerick1688 2 года назад

Hi man, nice video! So Dolby True HD = Atmos?

@rajeshdhimancul 2 года назад

Not always, TruHD is just the lossless Dolby version. Atmos carries the metadata over it for 3d objects encoded in the sound.

@archwaytech 2 года назад

Cheers Ben. You can Dolby TrueHD without the Atmos layer being added. If it says Dolby TrueHD on the blu ray and it’s an Atmos movie then you’ll get the best Atmos possible. Cheers.

@MrAmtrak457 Год назад

DTS is the best audio format for home users. Dolby only works best in cinemas

@mountaintopjdog1131 2 года назад

I like your video, I have been trying to get dolby atmos to work flawlessly in my living room for 1 year now. Audio keeps droping out for 5sec at a time randomly after aprox 15 mins of playing time during a movie. Playing it on xbox series x with atmos app. Hooked up to 65"qled then throu earc to denon x4500h 11.2 ch avr that displays dolby atmos during play back. Streaming movies from netflix, disney, prime through internet download speed of 25mbps constantly out in the country (rural area). It really sucks when the volume is loud and then all you see is peoples lips moving and no sound, then bam the sound comes back on at loud volume. Anybody run into this yet??? It doesn't matter if the tv and xbox devices are set to pcm or pass through or auto it still keeps happening.

@jb7753 2 года назад

I started my set up using an xbox 1s and got constant atmos sound no issues at all. I watched greyhound through the apple tv app and many other movies before jumping to Apple 4k TV. At the time I think I was running a 48mbps internet speed hard-wired. Have you eliminated all your hardware as the issue? Can you play a disc with atmos through the xbox? If that plays up you've ruled out your internet speed as the issue and it's hardware related. Is there anyway for you to increase your internet speed for a month to test that as the issue? That's all I can recommend as I'm running Sonos equipment so can't really give mush more feedback than that sorry mate.

@mountaintopjdog1131 2 года назад

@@jb7753 I was playing 4K back to the future 2 from blu ray also happens when watching you tube. Netflix and others

@jb7753 2 года назад

@@mountaintopjdog1131 so it's doing it for both disc and streaming which rules out your internet as the issue and brings it to hardware. My first thought is cables.... what sort of HDMI cable are you using? Is it 4k rated? If it is, might be faulty and suggest trying a new cable.

@mountaintopjdog1131 2 года назад

@@jb7753 that’s what I thought so I went back to visions and got the up’s 8 k hdmi cable to run from the 65” qled tv to the avr x4500h denon through earc. I have to run Xbox to the tv in order to get 4K. If I run it to avr it’s not as clear. I think the tv and avr are not a happy match through earc

@jb7753 2 года назад

@@mountaintopjdog1131 for me mate I think you've done all the troubleshooting possible and correctly diagnosed a handshaking issue between the hardware. Th HDfury arcana may fix this issue for you. I'm using it as my TV is a 2016 4k samsung and didn't have an earc port just arc. I'm very impressed with the arcana. They constantly update it to stay up with the various changes from all the different brands e.g. the day Sonos released DTS support arcana had an update ready to support the pass through. Since putting that in I've also added a 4k hdmi switch as I have 3 device's to switch between (4 is you include.my security camers). You may need to do a little bit of research to make sure there isn't any isuses with your denon but I can't see there being any as it's just acting as an adapter. But a possible expensive test for that not to be the issue though.

@vkostov Год назад

It so easy - QNAP Nas > Plex > NVidia Shield > Receiver > 4K Projector + in ceiling Atmos 😁 Easy

@archwaytech Год назад

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@LoafRock 2 года назад

🍻 great video, I’ve just started watching Blu-ray’s with the PS5. Before that I don’t think I’ve watched a dvd/Blu-ray in many years.

@archwaytech 2 года назад

Thanks Bread. How have you been finding the Atmos performance from the PS5?

@LoafRock 2 года назад

@@archwaytech I’m loving it so far but I’m new to blu rays & apparently I didn’t have the audio set up right until recently.

@miguelmatias2549 2 года назад

@@archwaytech i think ps5 can't produce Dolby Atmos. Is exclusive from Xbox

@MrViper7121 2 года назад

@@miguelmatias2549 Whoever told you that is on crack. Atmos metadata is In the bitstream that is sent to your receiver to o decode. The Dolby app on Xbox just allows the Xbox one to encode games and other UI sounds in Dolby Atmos in real time. That's a totally different topic

@darkmagna9004 2 года назад

@@miguelmatias2549 It seems it doesn't decode Dolby Atmos, so it can't output ATMOS when streaming, but as long as the player is set to bitstream, then you can enjoy Atmos from blu-ray and let the receiver decode the ATMOS signal.