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Is 8K too much? I got a chance to review the Nikon Z9 - an 8.3K 45.7MP mirrorless full frame camera - and it's incredible. It might be the best video camera I use for a long time. But I think we might have reached the threshold of "too much quality"? Maybe we don't need to go any higher? Regardless, I had a blast with this thing.
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TIMECODES:
00:00 The best video camera I've ever used!
00:31 My first cinema camera cost HOW MUCH?!
02:09 My quest for the next camera
02:42 Physical build & weight
03:10 Battery life
04:02 Memory cards - yikes
04:30 Ports OH MY!
05:03 Workflow niceties
05:39 Streaming - THIS HAS TO STOP!
06:43 Image Quality & Video Shooting
07:46 Thoughts on N-RAW
10:59 Is 8K too much?
12:41 Picture Profiles
13:21 Low-Light & Full-frame
13:51 Autofocus Quirks
15:25 Photos quick thoughts
16:35 Things I wish it had
17:21 My documentary series?
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@tombuck Год назад

Nikan’t believe how great the quality is 👍

@EposVox Год назад

Tom

@thebensonator Год назад

That video quality is absolutely insane! I'm just now delving into 4K recording, and it's already amazing to me how much more control I have compared to 1080 - I can't even imagine how crazy 8K must feel to use. Don't think I could ever truly justify using it myself, but knowing that level of quality is possible is pretty amazing.

@MuphovieArts Год назад

One thing I love about the Z9. It can record internal Raw video in various resolution. Not only 8.3K raw but it also give you 5.3K, 4K and 2.3K in raw.

@funwithtalkingtom_official 4 месяца назад

Hey, does the Z8 also do this? Is the raw available at other resolutions, other than 8K?

@MuphovieArts 4 месяца назад

@@funwithtalkingtom_official yeah I believe it same like z9 video spec

@terrydoestech Год назад

IMO 8k is great for cropping and having good detail for tracking/compositing, but for around 99% of RU-vidrs out there I would say 1080p is more than enough. Vid looks good, man!

@chiefjudge8456 Месяц назад

2009 called. Huh? This has to be a troll comment because 1080p isn't enough for anyone. It's an obsolete 15 year old resolution, and that's being kind of generous because 1080p was already affordable and mainstream in 2007.

@terrydoestech Месяц назад

@@chiefjudge8456 ok chad.

@AJCoReTV Год назад

Beast of a camera. 😮

@TryingBrian Год назад

Insane machine, that waterfall shot is incredible!

@LastXwitness Год назад

I’ve had the Z9 for almsot a year now and it’s just awesome and keeps getting better I did a video on my love/hate on it on my channel more from a pro photographer standpoint which might explain some of the qwams some people have that might have other use cases. Also cf express B cards are being adopted by almsot all major camera brands now and card manufacturers so it’ll jsut keep getting cheaper/faster/bigger And AF issues you had you might want to check the quick/delay sensitivity setting

@MichaelAres Год назад

Can’t wait to see your thoughts on the upcoming Z8!

@LEXPIX Год назад

Nicely done. The biggest draw of 8K for me is the punching in option as well as future proofing.

@technicolourmyles Год назад

A few thoughts: - I think the ProMist is a bit much, kinda made the whole image feel like Vaseline on the lens, like someone else mentioned. Up to taste, though. - I'm sure you know this, but the Blackmagic 6K G2 and 6K Pro use NPF batteries instead of the little Canon ones. Are those cameras out of the question because of autofocus? - This might be because I've been diving deep back into ACES lately, but, do picture profiles actually do anything when you're shooting in raw? The CDNG raw I shoot on my BMCC2.5K gets debayered right into ACES, which is pretty much how any raw image is treated, so the bit you mentioned about shooting with a flatter profile was a bit confusing to me.

@TheGeekGauntletPodcast Год назад

Now I am loving this. I think for all that this does…5k ain’t bad.

@ChristianWheel Год назад

Been using 8K on the R5 since launch for my channel and am now moving to the R5C. They both produce spectacular video and the R5 has slightly better autofocus, but the exposure tools on the R5C and no-record-limit are just too good to pass up. The R5 is going onto my slider as my b-roll cam, since I'll be taking lots of shorter shots I probably won't have to worry as much about overheating there. The Nikon looks great and I dig the features but as you pointed out the autofocus still needs a bit of refinement, plus for me I'm already heavily invested in Canon glass. Gotta give the Nikon credit though. Even with the Promist there's still so much detail in the image! Thanks for the review.

@CoalitionGaming Год назад

The Z9 is the dark horse of the current flagships, for sure. I keep dropping information about it to my friend who use to main a 1DXii, but he wouldn't be swayed lol. He went with an R5C (lighter). But i still like to see the Nikon underdog kill it. The Sony FX30 seems like an interesting camera too! Different class, sure, but yeah haha.

@novellahub Год назад

Waiting on Craft Computing to join. This is up his alley.

@ReDesignEverything Год назад

Seeing the RJ-45 port, I was hoping for video over network protocols like NDI to be built into this camera. It's a shame to have an ethernet port and not be able to output live video over it for streaming. At least having ethernet is still better than relying on WiFi though, and at least we have full-size HDMI.

@robertfeliciano5723 Год назад

@16:20 Wow! I might have to spend $5,500 if they don't introduce a Z7iii soon.

@StYfReX Год назад

The good thing about the Z9 its that you can "reframe" a lot with that 8k image. So, it's easy to work in a lot of environment but not really needed in a lot of cases, as a video camera its good but if you also want it as a "photo" camera, i would prefer the 8k30 oversampled from 8.6k with the A1 :d. Gerald Undone has great reviews of all this beast of cameras. Nikon Z9 uses a Sony sensor BTW :d

@makatron Год назад

Yeah I'm about to get this camera for both photo and video work. Already got over a dozen lenses and planning to get the lens converter whilst I keep saving for Z lenses.

@MarcRitzMD Год назад

Any gadgets which allow you to quickly dump the compact flash storage onto bigger more economical drives on-the-go? Or how about a compact-flash to usb adapter so that you can still use SSDs?

@abavariannormiepleb9470 Год назад

Hope that Blackmagic is doing a real update to the PCCs sometime with USB 10 or 20 Gbit, at least HDMI 2.x and CF Express in the not too distant future. Was pretty disappointed with the recent 6k Pro/G2 updates :(

@jesseshaver2262 Год назад

Correct. It is too much. Resolution has accelerating diminishing returns

@Deathbynature89 Год назад

I don't really like the look of 1/2 Black Pro Mist. Like vaseline on the lens. I much prefer the Tiffen Glimmer Glass. You only get halation on light sources, it reminds me of the glow on lights in Bladerunner and animated in AKIRA.

@MarcRitzMD Год назад

Do you think the camera would have benefitted from having AV1 encoding? Is that something that owners of a professional camera like this would use or would they never care to sacrifice quality for storage space?

@TroubleChute Год назад

Me watching in 480p

@SooksVI Год назад

For nikon cameras to work properly as a Webcam, you need to install the Nikon Webcam utility software. It's a simple install that gives the computer access to full resolution. I believe Sony has a similar utility.

@EposVox Год назад

I…yes? I’ve showcased it in multiple videos and that’s what I’m using here. Thank you captain obvious?

@SooksVI Год назад

@@EposVox This is my first time encountering your content. I didn't see it mentioned in this video so I figured it wouldn't be a big deal to mention it... Apparently, it was. Have a good one.

@joeyslaptop Год назад

You can make or buy a CFE-B-to-USBC 3.2 adapter. You're welcome.

@dexheavy85 Год назад

For the storage option, you have CFExpress to NVME converters from Zitay. Maybe there are more out now. You just pluck in regular NVME and record forever. You should use low-power NVME like Kioxia BG4 or BG5 drives because the camera can't supply enough juice for 980 Pro NVME.

@alihammad6318 Год назад

I'm debating going this route once I get my XH2S, how's your luck with that?

@dexheavy85 Год назад

@@alihammad6318 I have never used them personally but they are a good option.

@Digmen1 Год назад

All I can see is your face for 19 minutes and then a typical waterfall scene And I'm a nikon fanboy

@BIGLEMON23 Год назад

canon r5c is awesome and 8k is great when punching in

@victorlim5077 Год назад

Get good Nikkor glass (the S line lenses) and the Z9 will shine.

@petersuvara Год назад

Rewatched this, not sure whether you mentioned this, but which lens are you using?

@MarcRitzMD Год назад

There are these fun videos on youtube where cameras show off their high-iso performance. They show a night-scene with everything being black, the they go to like 400k ISO, and it is almost daytime with detail and colors. Does this camera have that capability?

@k1vd038 Год назад

Have you considered for studio use the Panasonic BS1H since it has PoE and output over ethernet, which means only 1 cable is needed and it is small as hell ??

@Anugrah_Amriza Год назад

Though It is a dang good camera, I think if you're accepting recommendations, I think the Z series Nikons are amazing. I have the Z50 and it's main drawback is that the screen flipps down and not to the side

@EposVox Год назад

This is the flagship Z camera lol, it is a Z-series Nikon :P

@Anugrah_Amriza Год назад

@@EposVox The Z series does not disappoint. and I have no problems ( so far ) with my Z50. How about you? any minus you are experiencing with your Flagship Z series ? Like, mine ( Flip down screen ) ?

@abernest559 Год назад

whats the glow effect called?

@livejames9374 Год назад

I think the camera might have been focusing on the ghost w/ eyes in that busy scene haha I say that because when it doesn’t find eye it switches to head/body typically. You could customize an af zone to fit just your body

@EposVox Год назад

Maybe but it didn’t show an AF box on it, just switched to the red “no AF” view

@MarcRitzMD Год назад

In your opinion, do you think it makes sense that LTT has bought several 12K Ursas? Do you suspect they might have overestimated the utility they could get from 12K and underestimated the complexity of using 12K footage?

@gamepleng Год назад

I wonder if the focus issue was caused by the ghost on the shelf and the camera was picking his eyes, not yours

@michaelsawczyn1704 Год назад

Streaming through LAN instead of usb-c? And getting a lan to usb-c dongle?

@EricLouisYoung Год назад

yeah the webcam feature... freakin lame that they don't implement the open uvcvideo protocol that sony did in the last few years. it would seriously take an intern like 2 weeks of work to add it in.

@EposVox Год назад

Sony’s is still limited to low res and low fps too

@Granfoss Год назад

I record in H-265 10-bit SDR. Cant afford huge or many CF Express cards. Bur the quality is very good anyway. =O)

@petersuvara Год назад

Can’t you just use a video capture card for 4K streaming?

@EposVox Год назад

Yes, but not everyone has one and when the camera should be capable of it specs-wise, after spending $5000+ on a camera you shouldn’t have to buy one lol

@petersuvara Год назад

@@EposVox Sure, I agree. We should expect 4K from USB-C. But something is telling me the bus to the USB-C port just cannot handle it. But the HDMI port can. It's a direct sensor readout in most cases.

@Pabula Год назад

Given that the nikon z9 its a superb camera. Wouldn't the Sony ecosystem be enough for you? i mean Sony A7III has superb autofocus, great low light light and very nice GM lens and even some signa glass work great for video no?

@EposVox Год назад

Sony makes great stuff. I have a5100, a6400, and a7s ii and A7c in production right now. But even with their newer ones like the a7s iii, they don’t give you internal raw recording. I’m kinda locked into shooting raw these days. But they’re fantastic cameras. Similar boat of all my lenses being Canon. I have sigma 16mm 1.4 for the a6400 and a GM lens that has died and needs repaired, but those are my only 2 Sony glass

@Pabula Год назад

@@EposVox Who shots raw and has superb autofocus?

@MCplayer94 Год назад

Mate get a 1/8 black pro mist, that glow is to much

@PyroKalfje Год назад

4k is allready to mutch. 8k wayyyy to mutch. 1080p is perfect is for 99% all the work. Who can really see the difference without pixel peaping or having a large 4k screen sitting to close.

@bdog111 Год назад

Your streaming from USB complaint is invalid. Go look at your comments on Odysee to find out why. Maybe read your comments on Odysee (assuming you haven't), that audience is better in general than themtube audiences.

@MobileDecay Год назад

And people still won't watch my videos. 😂

@KorokuGaming Год назад

8k isn't too much, it's the ideal resolution for most creators... It's just too much for our memory cards & wallets that's all.

@makatron Год назад

For archiving purposes I'd just shoot everything in 8k and then upload it to RU-vid as a private video. No less than proper 4k video of my kids, I'd imagine that in 40 years tech will provide 24k screens or something.

@KorokuGaming Год назад

@@makatron That's a good idea! Video quality will take a hit of course due to RU-vid compression but 8k on RU-vid does still look pretty good!

@makatron Год назад

@@KorokuGaming it's free backup and I made an account that follows nobody and has zero comments just so they upload family content for the sake of backup, yeah its compressed but it's also available to share with anyone up until the asteroid hits us.

@CameraCombo Год назад

Yeah, 1080p's just fine. No one sees in 4k or 8k- human eyes are just not good enough; so, what's the point? Crazy to hear about "webcam" feature! You'd think they'd offer 1080p at least. Big camera though.

@GewelReal Год назад

Human eye can very easily "see 8K" and even a bit beyond

@PragmaticMC Год назад

that's completely wrong though, what matters is pixel density and distance from the screen. if you have a 32'' 4k monitor and a 32'' 1080p monitor, you would be able to clearly see a difference since the pixel density on the 1080p monitor would be significantly lower.

@CameraCombo Год назад

@@GewelReal Nope. Do some research on it... at proper viewing distances (not with a magnifying glass 5cm from the screen).

@CameraCombo Год назад

@@PragmaticMC It depends on the viewing distance. How close do you want to be? The subject has already been beaten to death. I know no one wants it to be true... 4k solves a problem no one had with 1080p.

@GewelReal Год назад

@@CameraCombo because you are blind doesn't mean that everyone else is. At 1m distance I couldn't stand how pixelated my 24 inch 1080p screen was. 27 inch 4K fixed it for me and is almost perfect (something an 8K screen could fix if they didn't cost a fortune). On phones I'd agree, anything over ~1440p at 5" screen size is almost impossible to distinguish