You Are Hating Forspoken Wrong. 

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I love how in the guards scene, they SPECIFICALLY refer to HER as the demon, not as consort of demon, SHE IS THE DEMON, WHEN THEY KNOW ITS THE CUFF.

I feels bad for the actor who voice and motion capture the protagonist, first she star in the Netflix’s Resident Evil which get tons of hate and now this, I feel like she couldn’t catch a break at all. Poor girl.

Bet, their plan was to make a trilogy, and the MC was supposed to have an enemies to lovers relationship with Cuff 😂😂😂

"Technically you're unlovable and will die alone..." Me: "True, true."

Regarding the opening even better, the cuff is in some museum being an artifact of unknown origin, the gang kidnap her cat Homer to blackmail her into breaking into the museum to steal something to make even on whatever she did to the gangs boss, she is able to avert guards because of a voice in her head from the cuff (idk if that’s how it works in game), but midway through the heist the cops are tipped off - it’s a set up! Trapped and as they close in on her she gives in to the goading from the cuff saying it can save her. She’s then pulled through to the other world before being caught. That way she has a reason to try and get back because all she cares about in that time is to save her cat and it can eat away at her to start off as she struggles, gives her an initial reason to resent the cuff before she learns of her heritage etc

Tanta has a very similar pronunciation to Tante in the Indonesian language; Tante in English is auntie; it's a coincidence. Also, the mother dragon's name is Cinta; Cinta in the Indonesian language means Love. I just threw unrelated knowledge into a random video about this game. Good video, by the way.

Never have I watched a video on a game I have 0 interest in from start to end. The video quality is absolutely insane. Seriously, keep this up, this is incredible!

Watch, it’ll only be a short while before square enix starts trying to pump life back into forspoken with AI-generated plots and shoehorned-in NFTs. Though given how badly the writers fumbled this one I doubt the AI could come up with anything worse

22:10 Cuff does not like Frey, just had to correct you there. It's a contractual relationship of "i manipulate you to get my way and make sure you dont die before that comes to fruition"

I like how the review was neither "its a misunderstood gem" or "its really bad" just no its bad ,but your hatred for it is insufficient and here is why. By the looks and outline I feel like this game was possibly meant to be an rpg that was meant to bridge the realtime tunrbased rpg elements seen in recent final fantasy games with more instant combat, but a hard pivot was made at some point way after pre-production and way after final conceptualization and they had to scramble to this action fantasy thing and its mismatched story.I really felt the rush job and slight second hand embarrassment for the gameplay designers when I saw the gameplay of the sneak section, as it has alot of "2nd draft put the door" energy,looked like a level you would get if you opened a basic "sneak"tutorial pack in unreal 5,no real art direction in that section just space and boxes.

It's really hard to imagine a bunch of people sitting down and reading through this games script then looking at each other and saying, "We f#@king nailed it"... This video was a lot of fun though.

Let’s normalize hating the director and writers. Actors just do as they’re told most of time.

@Zenny the book she read in her squatters pad was Alice in Wonderland. A story about a girl who goes thru a portal to a strange and wonderous land filled with danger...

Wait the demon says "don't call me cuff" when he literally says at the start, cuff was his prefered name?

Bro, this channel is soo good. You put in so much effort and this is seriously some of the best stuff on youtube. keep it up Zenny!

I watched a video about Forespoken that made all of these flaws clear and I could see that Forespoken is a first draft. With a re drafting or two, it might have been good. F in chat for forespoken.

You..Forgive..The GOD.DAMN.BRACLET WTF!!!

I've seen a lot of videos dragging this, and none of them had pointed out that *everyone* should know Cuff is dangerous.

Gotta give credit where I see it. Fantastic title.

Just my two cents about the video (I haven't played the game). Level design and environment design are separate things, you can have an ugly environment with a great gameplay and you can have a beautiful level that plays like shit. My second gripe is that the distraught "woosh" when the old man dies doesn't feel like a joke to me, like at all. In your video it seems like the old man and the "woosh" thing are the only things that give her hope to return home, when he dies, her "only hope" goes away and these two characters shared something.. Woosh. I like it, that's not bad writing in this particular case (my opinion is just based off what you presented in the video)

at this point, this all comes down to one question HOW? how the fuck did this game end up like this? was it rushed, were the designers/writers bad? what happened in this games development to have it end up like this?

13:56 ‘Do you need a Kit Kat my guy ?’

I love your vids dude! Just found you randomly but I love the commentary and animations and in depth review of the different parts of the game.

"Is Forspoken really that bad?" No, it's way worse...

Holy shit i actually forgot forspoken exists

I did watch a couple of streamers play the game. I can say I hated watching the story for the reasons Zenny explained. There are also some other plot holes that could have been avoided: (1. They talk about Frey's mom meeting her father on Earth, but we never get an explanation on where he was. Have a flashback moment where the mom says to him that she's pregnant and that it isn't safe to keep Frey in Athia. He agrees to meet up with her at a certain time after Frey is born. When Vambrace is remove during the middle of the portal the father is concerned because the mom is panicking, but the portal closes before he could react. A couple years later, Frey as a kid wants to know who her mom is. The dad gives some details that she loves her and wanted to keep her safe. After that small exchange, he has to head to his job but dies as he was ending his shift. (2. As mentioned, the Break is barely explained. Have the Break being the result of Vambrace being the first to master elemental powers and this drove him to madness to play God and alter reality in his image not caring of the consequences. This alteration come at a price as the world become unstable and creates a miasma of chaos "Breaking" fabrics of reality. The Tante also capable of mastering elements banded together in a desperate attempt to destroy Vambrace and reverse the Break before the entire world is destroyed. He was too powerful to be destroyed so the used their combined powers to server him into the cuffs that won't stop the Break, but at least bide them time to keep it from spreading. However, the cuffs slowly cursed their bodies in different ways: One driven to madness, one losing memories, one becoming influenced by Vambrace but dies and tries to warn Frey not to fuse the cuffs but dematerializes before she could say it. And Frey's mom, although she has the most resistance to the cuff her curse is that if it is ever removed, she loses her humanity. BADABING BADABIFF!! Two elements having some context. Why Frey was fully an orphan, and the most important, what is the source of the break. And it only took me about an hour to think that up.

you definitely deserve more subscribers, my goodness this is a high-quality video

This is why they should let CBU 3 take in charge with stories for Square Enix games. They have done wonderful jobs with FF14 and FF16.

another timely and relevant video by zenny, good shit lad.

Thanks for your sacrifice, and i can't wait for your next video

Love your vids I've seen so far. You deserve a much larger subscriber count for sure! Hope you take off.

"The Black Knight" movie from 2001 starring Martin Lawrence is a better isekai than this

Just found your channel and I’m enjoying your stuff. If I may be so bold to give a little constructive criticism to a complete stranger that didn’t ask for it, the F bombs lose their power the more you use them. That’s it. Sorry, I know it’s not my place, but I think you can go far with this kind of content. Good luck man!

Found you from your starfield video and immediately wanted more after watching this video I have to say you are such a breath of fresh air in the youtube gaming scene. Its either blind love or hate from most people which made me give up on gaming essays for a while. Can't wait to dig in futher into your backlog, keep up the great work!

This video brought me to your channel and I must say that this channel became my favorite channel by the time I watched your second video

My ps5 chilling in the corner: Ps5: Do I mean nothing to you

my Dude, absolutely amazing video! Absofuckinglutely subbed

New arrival to your channel Zenny. And you do some great stuff here :D Keep up the good stuff.

After your Starfeild video I just wanted to watch more of your stuff, it’s so entertaining rather I care a bit about the game or not.

bruh, I love this review.

21:56 this lighting tho...looks like a 2008 PS3 game

I love it cause I understood everything she was feeling and her wanting to get away from it all and the way she viewed the world with fantasy elements in it Captured my soul I know most will not understand but that to be expected.

Another amazing video♥️

Hey man im a beguiner writer/manga artist and i offten try to fix storys I did it with lightlarks story and characters, allthough i did have to basicaly remake 90% of it But i am looking forward to rewriteing and trying to fix forspoken

Just a quick comment to say that RU-vid subtitles understood "thank you" when Frey is beaten up by Lisa at 8:50, and I found that pretty comical.

Forspoken is what happens when your rough draft gets kicked up the chain to full production with some "Trademark MCU banter" welded on by people from another culture.

Zenny Bo Benny dropped a banger

20:28-21:35 was actually a good delivery ngl

they really should have named the game forsaken. because that is what the game is and what it caused to the studio that made it to be.

I didn't think 🤔 it was about being close enough to her but knowing that the judge is competent enough to actually take care of a cat. Maybe she would send the cat to a pound after that exchange....but the main character doesn't have other options that aren't also strangers.

I actually kind of like the parallel between Cuff and the Gang in the beginning. In both cases, Frey is manipulated and put in trouble by another. There isn't too much to it, but I like it

The first red flag for me was the Isekai plot not only was it a overdone trope in much of Japanese media which I imagine many of Square fans are aware of and they typically have the protagonist wanting to go back even though they often have very little reason to because in the new world they have superpowers when they don’t in their home world. Forspoken could’ve been a great game I actually liked four element magic systems(yes like Avatar but with more mysticism) but the inane plot and unlikeable protagonist if they had given the story more thought and care it could’ve been awesome.

I've lived in New York for 39 years of my life and one thing I can tell you is that people will pull a gun out on you in an open area they don't give a shit in New York but number two most of the time the gun that they're pulling on you is not even loaded.... it might surprise you to know that people in New York don't want to shoot you just as much as you don't want to be shot so most of the time it's a scare tactic at a point to let you know that they do own pieces and that if you continue to fuck with them the next time it might have a bullet... you always have to separate your locks from your key even thugs aren't stupid even they know how New York works.... that's why the enemy's went and did arseny later because it's a lot easier to get away with that and it's a lot less time served if you get caught versus shooting somebody and or murder

I really enjoyed this, thanks

You said it all brother. This was a good one.

you poor poor man your sacrifice was not in vain in time the flashbacks will calm down! thank you for your service!

Everybody asks what is the break. Nobody asks how is the break 💔

Hearing praise for the combat is really weird for me because the guys I watched play it, Don and Dillon from Friends Without Benefits, had found the path of least resistance. First of all, holding the run/dodge(?) button makes you practically invincible. Don had every difficulty setting on default. Second, in combination with Frey's incidental access to ultra instinct, having infinite ammo for her rapid fire projectile magic results in every enemy posing no threat to the player at all. Playing keep away just works. Simply run around and fire the magic machine gun. These things were stumbled into, and nothing in the game forced or encouraged another way of playing. And now, because I have a text document for these, I just want to drop some comments that Don, Dillon and their chat made about Forspoken as the streams went on. "Chapter 1 [...] had a whopping ONE gameplay segment." rando in chat: "I wish she would stop forspeaking." "I'm literally just looking past the character at all times because I know that if I just hold forward and circle, she will traverse everything for me." "Is that like the tenth time, maybe more, where we've gone to gameplay, walked forward for 15 seconds (into) another cutscene?" "15 seconds is way overestimating that." "At any point when we're trying to make a decision as to how we're going to design the videogame, they have to choose between option A or option B. One of them is the obviously wrong choice and one of them is not the obviously wrong choice. And they flip a coin every time, and they somehow get the bad option every time." "By the looks of things, if you're on easy/normal/hard, it just impacts how much damage you do. And I gotta be honest, I don't necessarily want to be doing the fights for longer." "They're really boring. I have played the entirety of this videogame by mashing all of the buttons that I know do things. That's it. You hold circle and you press L1 and R1 and L2 and R2, and the game plays itself."

Not old enough to have played Final Fantasy I but I did play Final Fantasy X on PS2. Also I do own a PS5 and I found Forspoken pretty bad.

Really appreciate this video! I’m someone who favours good & fun gameplay/combat over anything else. It’s a shame how many people dismissed the combat because of how bad the rest of the game is, and don’t give it any respect for what it does well. The rest of the video was really entertaining! A great watch.

Oh no... Forspoken DLC trailer just dropped. Well shit

How does this guy not have more subscribers?

Played Atomic Heart? Fun game. My theory: Frey gives Homer to the judge because is the only character WE have met that we can assume would take good care of him. The gang isn't gonna do it, maybe other than drown it in a river, and why would Frey approach them with Homer anyway and risk getting beat again or worse? My questions: Why and how is the cuff genetically linked to Frey is it belongs to her mother and has always been on her arm but never touched Frey, as far as we know? Was the cuff made for and to belong to Frey? Why is that apartment not cleaned out and/or repurposed in (for?) 20 years? Frey's apartment is at least abandoned and has clearly not been repossessed, so why not the cuff one? Why/how has no one else found the cuff in that time? How did the cuff end up in a vastly different location than Frey when they went through the portal at virtually the same time? The "Tantas" are Frey's aunts, you say? Well, buckle up for THIS revelation, because in my language - Norwegian - 'tanta' is the determinate conjugation of 'AUNT'. The more you know! 8D I love how the wiki barely pokes at 'the Break' with 3 lines but not even the plot is laid out because no onebothered with this game.

Got it when it came out on the PS5 and it was real mid. Had potential but they didn't pull it off. The powers were great though. Movement is on point and the cats are cool. That's about it though.

I can’t believe, the main villain, cuff was forgiven in the end… that’s insulting…

Lol nice video man keep up the good work 😊

I doubt this video is as long as it needed to be. But good job I'm entertained.

yup all cause the character was written by a ESG firm black girl gamer - the main thing they worked on was her character and its the worst part of the game, they had AMY HENNIG on story and still f*cked it up out of fear of "not being a good representative character" rather than a GOOD CHARACTER

God I love letting the hate flow through me

When I played the game I thought the critics to be exaggereted, sure the dialogues are cringe but nothing we hadn't seen in the MCU, and the combat was the closest thing to a new Infamous game in almost 10 years (which I loved and was missing so much). But the real problem, which for whatever reason nobody was talking about, is that the whole text of this game is awful, it's just the worst. The critics were so misplaced that it almost made want to defend this game, but it's so bad it probably would have been easier to defend Resident Evil 6

You should play Lobotomy Corporation and Library of Ruina, if you manage to survive the difficulty spike, im sure you will love them

It makes sense that The Cuff is the villain because it looks like a dark souls boss

Marketing must have been pretty abysmal too, cus I genuinely had no idea this existed until now.

Thanks for asking the question honestly. The answer is yes. It really is that bad. I like bad movies and games and I couldn't get more than a third of the way through the thing.

i love your videos dude

Fuck yea I'm driving to my new apt rn thank you for posting this

What about dragon quest???

It's kind of funny to me that Zenny praised the combat design because another review I watched just before this one criticized the combat design for being extremely bare-bones and repetitive. Different strokes for different folks I guess

Great video! Seen a lot of negative reviews about this game and considering buying a cheap copy for myself, just to experience the muck. Have you played Forspoken's DLC? If so, what did you think of it?

Really good analysis I have to say! I'm surprised this channel has so few watchers, this sits right up the alley of anyone into game analysis videos! The game looks awful, feels like a team of DEI specialists made it to fully suit a "modern audience", and pander to "realistic standards". Even the narrative follows a similar kind of "feel"... Usually games that try and gain those "DEI points" end up in a very similar state. I made my opinion about DEI into a short animation, since that little thing ruins more than just game companies!

they should've just advertised NEO:TWEWY

This confirms my theory, GAMES JUST NEED TO QUIT CUT SCENES, they cut into game time and game development could be done sooner. Please start/spread this #QuitCutSecnes they are killing games

loved forspoken and the dlc is great but the end is sad but i wont say what happens at the end of the dlc but cuz of the hate we might never get a 2nd but hey its whatever i had a fun time and 100% the game!

Honestly it seems like they made an open world game with really good combat, but then attempting to write a story within the last week of Production. This game probably would have been better if it focused solely on combat with barely any story.

The one good thing that came from this game were the memes, the fucking meme. It was like the movie "the Room" by Tommy Wiseau personified in game form; but not in the category 'its so bad its good', but just plain awful with dialogue that just give you extreme whiplash and makes you second guess what you just listened too.

Question. Is the combat good enough to warrant buying the game alone?

This game inflicted the same wound to one of Square Enix developer divisions in similar manner to how Sony axed Sony Japan after moving their HQ to USA, then focusing on cinematic walking tundra simulators with a pinch of lecturing of "bigot sandwich" in post-Apocalypse environment by the writers that got way more salaries in a year than majority of World's population percentage's entire lives' incomes right now (don't get me started of here in Indonesia, here people with low income or unemployment are on daily su1c1d3 watch in the daily to the point (including me Xd) that profanity, "offensive" words and even physical violence are mindnumbingly common as fruits in tropical Islands) I'm still really mad with the fact that we probably won't going to get something like Bloodborne, Team Ico games akin to Shadow of Colossus and The Last Guardian and Gravity Rush games ever again, or even stuffs like White Knight Chronicles, Siren or Little Big Planet, Ape Quest, etc

Why is it not one hour

He didn't even get into the fact that air powers are locked ti the very end of the game

if 1 dollar + 1 dollar is 3 dollars then 15 dollars an hour would be (7 x 3) + 1 = 22 dollars per hour ? Awesome or is it 15 actual dollars x ( 3 core math dollars / 2 actual dollars ) = 22.5 core math dollars? even better

amazing video as always also seeing this game makes my ears and eyes bleed

People hated it in the first 2 seconds cause she was black. God forbid they take a break for 1.5 seconds from making white people ... & Yes! To me the Final Fantasy characters are not Asian to me cuz the never mentioned hair dye and colored contact lenses.

I hate Forspoken because I know what it was originally supposed to be and I still want my Final Fantasy Resident Evil G Virus desert game Squeenix!

I've seen my fair share of gameplays of this and I hate how the game has no personality, no likeable characters, no character progression (especially in Frey spending a great amount of time shrugging off the needs and thoughts of the people but then suddenly caring as if she spent a lifetime with them) and especially, the continuous onslaught of quips and banter between her and Cuff. At times it felt as if I was watching high on life. This game studio and all the people involved both deserved better and should've worked better on this. It has potential, it's another isekai, sure, but why not making it stand out among the rest of similar stories? I personally like some of Cuff's ranged attacks, like the fully automatic stone machine gun, or the use of earthly elements offensively. There's something great in there but everything else buries it down. What a shame

I own a ps5, I got the platinum trophy, I beat the game... THE MAIN CHARACTER SUCKED AND IT WAS BORING COMBAT. Cuff was unfairly hated

Watched about 75% of the game out of morbid curiosity as a buddy played it on Twitch. Oh boy, I have not seen a worse writing and character working in quite some time. Also, I have not seen the start. Based on what happens later on I assumed that the main character is about 14 years old. 21? 21! 🤣🤣🤣 Yeah, no. 🧡💛🧡

8:18 there is nothing public or open about that space.... at all

There's already a fairly large group of people online saying it's a hidden underrated masterpiece because of how well crafted the combat is. Like you know every single game with fanatical following you decide to give a try only to find out there is like one good mechanic and rest is dogshit?

I'm not sure if it was ever mentioned, but.... why didn't the lady cop adopt her in the photo? She doesn't have to. But.... yeah... A cool idea might have been to have the cop in the picture actually be the judge. Im not sure how that would work, but maybe she left the force and became a judge and has just been keeping taps on Fray because she feels like there's a lingering residual responsibility for Frey. Also... soooo Frey is Little Orphan Annie??? Only without the westhly billionair to adopt her? So she is little orphan annie living a hard knock life, but shes mean unlike annie, rude unlike annie, thoughtless unlike annie. And so on and so on. I have no idea what anyone in the story actually wanted. "Save atheia!!" Doesn't count. Also (spoliers), the ending choice is super duper pooper stupid. Do you wish to stay in the magical world and become a puesdo magical Queen/demi-god and rule over the kingdom??? (Eventually) OR. Go back to NYC where your broke, suicidal, people/gangs are after you. Your almost about to wind up in prison. It's not even a choice. Also, im just put this out there. Why didnt the Judge just adopt Frey??? They seem to have some sort of relationship? They seem to know each other pretty well? So why didnt the judge just adopt her when she was some punk 13 year old kid. She could afford it she has a freaking penthouse or whatever. She's not married or has any kids. Anyway im done. My bad. So many questions... and yet no answers