YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED to Compare Starfield & Baldur's Gate 3 

I swear it's because they end up feeling dumb for not seeing the obvious flaws right in front of them and that makes them feel inferior.

It's just a video game... you can live the rest of your life not playing this specific video game and you wouldn't have missed anything🤣🤣🤣

All I know is, I was playing BG3 as Starfield launched and about 60 hrs in great game. I am now 170hrs deep into Starfield and have no desire to return to BG3 any time soon. Is BG3 a technically better game, I think so and I plan to get back to it, but I am simply finding Starfield more fun as I slowly chip away at it.

@@Battleneter I think you're a liar.

​@@BrickDaniels-qu7bzI think you've never played starfield

Well, he's pale, red eyes, fangs, and a bite on his neck, pretty obvious actually)))

Congrats on a genre-savvy 10-year old, heh!

Literally me too except it was who's that twink vampire

I thought he is gay, the vampire thing came only later into my mind.

@@gerhardadler3418 That was a first thought about every male companion)

This is my thought exactly. Well except for the impressive part. It would be a good game in 2010. That's about it.

​@@EstariaValens I disagree, it pales in comparison to its peers, Fallout New Vegas, Halo Reach, BioShock 2 and Mass Effect 2... Star Wars Force Unleashed... Red Dead Redemption....

This is no joke, the facial animations look worse than in Fallout 4. No one moves their eyebrows up and down constantly for no apparent reason when they talk like that and the lips moving look just strange, unnatural and spongy. How can more money result in worse animators being hired?

Its a modders paradise game, I personally see it as a Tabla Rasa of sorts, Its a bunch of minigames put together and none of it particularly does anything above an average rating, its the most unremarkable game I have ever played. Its a game I would say wait 5 years before you touch it, You want all the patches expansions DLC and most of all the access to the Mods that would make the game into actually something.

Yeah, except like other have said, it actually looks worse. Compare that space bar at 19:23 to the bars in Mass Effect 2 (2010) and I would pick the Citadel every time. It is also so immersion breaking having the NPC models carrying bags and suit cases....in a bar. What were they thinking?

though, in all fairness, I think Ketheric Thorme's actor did much better. As well as the guy who voiced Minsc. But hey, what do I know, I'm not a critic

@@ionicafardefrica you can kill both of them basically as soon as you meet them too! Though, yeah, Matthew Mercer did a great job voicing Minsc!

Hoo won voice actor? Astarion??

@@fepethepenguin8287 yes Astarion

@@ItsShatter oh cool.. I thot he did great.

Doesn't take much with Bethesda's awful writing. Fact is that Larian's writing is fucking atrocious as well, just in a different way. Play Divinity OS1 or OS2 and you'll see what I mean.

⁠@@Molotov_MilkshakeI see what you mean but at the same time, they have great moment too. It really sucks to point only the weakness. At least Larian writing is eloquent and fun to read in comparaison with Bethesda

@@Molotov_Milkshake Oooh, so you're just kind of down here spreading L takes as a bait on every comment. Gotcha, keep at it bud.

@@ProjectMalywix its not bait, hes just a narcissist who thinks that everyone but himself got bad taste

​@@Molotov_Milkshakesure maybe larian writing isn't the greatest thing of all time, but "fucking atrocious" is ridiculous to say

It's more like the execs will have no idea how BG3 works and tell the devs to do really stupid things to try and replicate it. Mark my words, most triple AAA studios will bankrupt themselves chasing quantity over quality.

@@localhearthian2387 That's the EA way. Buy a company, take all the credit for games that were already being made and coast on the unearned reputation for a few years, shit out a few reskins of an older game while swearing its a completely new game and eventually throw the shriveled up corpse of a once great company onto the pile of your previous victims.

​@@localhearthian2387bg3 is not quantity of quality, it's just quality. Every other developer is copy pasting content to make world bigger

@@Mikx100 Here Here. It's the best video game ever made. I'm getting older, my game sessions are getting shorter just from anxiety and chest pains. Baldurs Gate 3 kept me up for 48 hours straight. Not even exaggerating. This is my favorite hobby and nothing has ever had this effect on me. It made me realize I've never really played an RPG because everything I did actually mattered. I never got the appeal of DND and table top RPGs despite being table top games being one of my hobbies as well until I played BG3. I'm still no fan of real people, my husband and cat are plenty for me so won't be seeking a D&D group but I get it now.

"Used to be made". In that you are not wrong, as Larian released DoS 1 and 2 unfinished too. STOP bootlicking companies boots just because it's trendy in the gaming community. The gaming community is one of the sheepiest communities you can find. Everything is group thinking cause half of the "gamers" have the personality of a brick. Larian released an unfinished game. Yea, Act 1 and 2 are 10/10. Awesome. BUT, Act 3 is a completely different story. Many stories were unfinished in act 3, promised parts never to be seen (like the high city, Karlach's story, Cazador's hold over the rich...). Data miners found all of this, btw, I'm not making things up, and all the big patches we are getting are there to try to hide this, as most people will take a while to reach Act 3. The ending is totally rushed, it felt dissapointing as hell. 2-3 lines per companion, your character looking like an NPC, and one last scene, MCU style, with Withers. That was it. It was LAME. Act 3 is filled with bugs, glitches and confusing moments. Quests go nuts, people were reporting loses of over 40 hours in saves. I had to revert 2 hours cause Act 3 suddenly decided Dame Aylin was dead in the quest log. Many dialogues make no sense, as they speak to you about things you never did. Exactly what they did with DoS 1 and 2: they release finished act 1 and 2, knowing players will make reveiws based on those, then leave the rest to patches. DoS2 was never completed untill the definitive edition. No, Larian is not a good exmaple of "old style companies". Stop simping. They released the game before it was ready to get more sales in case Starfield was as good as some people thought (it wasn't, although I don't think it's as bad as some put it)

I... I feel dumb. I didn't even think of that.

Because that's a real life experience

these little things make gaming fun.

Same for me, but in my case I just got angry that they all failed and decided to hit it. This also made it move. They thought of everything!

I know the exact statue you're talking about too. One of the two statues in Lathander's monastery that hides the legendary weapon. I failed them all too and just whacked it out of anger with Karlach, and then it moved and I just went "Wait WHAT?!"

Oh the best part eoth the insight thing. That reminds me about the emerald Grove kids. Forgot her name but she's the pink tiefling kid that Mattis was using to pick people's pockets. Well anyways I passed my insight check that told me her tears were real and she was actually stressed out. Bear in mind I would've actually smacked the shit out of her if I failed that check. That's something I can't say I've ever had in a game before and that's just a mundane example

Oh yes! I LOVE it when games 'reward' failures like this, making it a legitimate choice/option instead of just something to avoid.

Or legitimately having certain spells on that change interactions. Speak with Animals is obvious, but there's also Detect Thoughts and I am willing to bet others. I'm only on Act 2 atm but holy cow.

Have you seen what happens when you fail the performance check to skip the queue in the house of healing? Genuinely hilarious

Shut up

HISSS.... I say HISSS!!!

Nahh

Huh… dam I should of done that, I just used my magic hand too throw the book over the bars. Trap can’t kill Me if i don’t enter the room

@GodNotReal I wouldn't waste your money on Starfield, at least not for several more years. Wait for the complete edition to be on heavy sale. By then there should be plenty of mods to make the game a little more enjoyable. Baldur's Gate 3 though is worth full price right now. Shit man, I've got 200 hours in the game since full release and I've only barely touched act 2, because I keep making new characters to try new builds and do different stuff in act 1, there's so many things to do in different ways.

hah gay

It's funny you mention that, because I had almost the exact opposite experience with a different trap. It was the sarcophagus trap in the temple. In case you missed it, the set up is that when you open the sarcophagus to get a key, gargoyles on the wall start endlessly shooting fireballs, while vents on the floor spew grease. Now, I already knew that you could put objects on the vents to block the grease, but the fireballs were a problem. They exploded when they hit the sarcophagus, so there wasn't really a safe spot. So I backtracked out of the room, and picked up nearby chests (which have very high HP pools) to put in front of a few gargoyles so they'd be blocked on the side my character was picking up the key from. Except it didn't matter. Because the fireballs don't interact with environmental objects, even if they have health. They just *phased right through* the chest. As far as I can tell, there's no mechanical reason why this is the case, considering they did interact with the terrain. Baldur's Gate 3 has a lot of possibilities, but it seemingly only rewards player for thinking of the ideas that the developers also thought of. It's just that the developers DID think of a lot of these solutions. It's just a very weird issue to have, if you even consider it as such.

@@queengames8421 I thought I was the only one to try blocking fireballs. XD

Starfield's VAs are mad talented. But the tepid writing and "my face is tired" blank stare faces just ruin everything.

Commander Lightfeather is one hell of a pigeon

@@Aggrofool I think the VAs are good, but I don't like the way Bethesda directs their VAs and never have since Oblivion. Their pacing is always off and their delivery way too dramatic to what their engine has ever been able to deliver. There were moments in BG3, on the other hand, where I was genuinely taken aback by line delivery. Every line, and the animation along with it, feels so... intentional.

​@@Crazy_Diamond_75lae'zel legit almost made me cry when the queen betrayed her, they did that scene so well.

@@Aggrofool^that^ The problem isn’t the VA. If you took the BG3 cast and made them deliver BGS dialogue over the Bethesda faced stares they’d sound like shit too. This is all bad writing.

Oh look, another BG3 fan who has never played Baldur's Gate 1/2 or even played a CRPG before.

Also BG3's predecessors ( Divinity OS1+OS2 ) were a cluttered mess. There were so many side quests on the tiny maps, that the questlog was an absolute clusterfuck. I gave up on even looking at it and decided to just go around killing everything instead because it was more fun. I kind of expect BG3 to end up the same way since BG3 is actually DOS3 in FR clothing.

@@Molotov_Milkshake I mean I wouldn’t be too surprised a lot of people haven’t played 1 or 2, just like a lot of people haven’t played the original fallouts, doesn’t mean we have to gatekeep

@@benwilliams9016 Look at any random comment under this video praising BG3 and you will see his response. He is prime example of a gatekeeper telling people how their favourite new thing is worse in every way than his childhood memories.

​@@Molotov_MilkshakeWhat? How is that even remotely relevant? If they praise bg3 why would you point out what bg1/2 does wrong? If you wanna shit on bg3 in the comments you should at least try shitting on bg3

Oh god I know. And the female voice actress reallly hits those emotional notes in parts like that. Hell, I cried my eyes out hearing her and johnny's talk in the new ending... Hell, Phantom Liberty had me crying like 6 times as I played through it for the different endings... great stuff

Yeah that was a really strong scene, scary, sad, crazy. Then the follow up with Misty, really made you feel the weight of the story.

This is an interesting take because so many times during Starfield, I actually found myself wishing I was playing Cyberpunk 2077, oddly, which six months ago I would have thought was crazy. The story in CP2077 took a dive at the end, but there were some very, very good moments along the way that were extremely memorable. The only memorable quest I can think of in Starfield is the choice between the UC or The Fleet, and even then it was only memorable because it was so looooong. It actually made me nostalgic for Fallout 4 and how quirky and interesting a lot of the side quests were. Remember the one where the Ghoul kid was trapped in a fridge for like 100 years or something? Even that silly ass quest was more memorable than 90% of Starfield.

@@chloewebb5526God I cried so hard at the end of Phantom Liberty, I feel you so much

I think it's because bits of Starfield feel like poor quality Cyberpunk? Neon City and the combat movement for example.@@NeonPixels81

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@@akbblessed1415 Nah i played 2077 recently. blew me away. honestly its crazy. i love it. Cant wait for bg3 on xbox. starfield bores me

It's almost like Bethesda put all their skill points into persuasion. 🤣

"But with mods it'll be great!"

​@@mugendono23i wish i was able to persuade steam to refund my copy of the game :(((

i am 120 hours in Starfield and havent even done 50% of the Game. If you take your time like in all Bethesda games, exploring and doing side content (wich is always better than the main story line) and dont rush the main story and leaving the other 70% of the game aside like veritas did (and we are even not speaking here about the NG+) then yes, Starfiel has as much content as Elden Ring or Baldurs gate.

​@@marcpaulus6291doing the same procedural cave/outpost kills my immersion. Skyrim and fallout did exploration better.

Exactly, one of the few games that don't really care, but reward players if they want to explore and see content, and don't treat player like a mindless drone who needs to be guided all the time

@@marcpaulus6291 I did most of side content I could find in starfield. It was fetch quest or kill the same pirates again and again. I found a few quests that was not one of these two options and they were very poorly written and bad....Player almost never have a choice to make. The only choice I remember was with the ship that travel hundreds of years and the choices given are all bad (while all the other guest make u a good guy). U can destroy the ship but u can't kill the CEO ? bullshit... Starfield is ugly and boring...no choice, bad writing, the world is bland and uninspired.

Content isn't impressive and never will be impressive. Something BGS and their fans don't understand. You fell into the same trap. Nobody cares how many hours you put into something.

That’s awesome! I love that there are still little details and tweaks that I haven’t discovered despite multiple play throughs.

@@syyneater honestly i was surprised they had that and loved it

I love it that I'm 800 hours into bg3 and haven't seen every interaction possible. Truly something else.

So cool

I was able to pretend I was one of them.

muahaha

They had no design document or even a writer Let alone a team. This is actually shocking, and should really be a bigger deal. By one source the budget should be around 400 million before advertising. Thats nearly twice the cost of Star Citizen, an MMO that does all the same stuff but without the loading screens Just seems like a really cynical deception, especially when you look at the language todd used It really feels like he's doing the whole "well its your fault for believing me" Its incredibly dubious ethically speaking, when you shit out a copy paste of previous games with a reskin and minimal effort Where the fuck did all the money go?????

Todd is not a madman, he's a corporate drone milking the user base.

@@Uncanny_Mountain To be fair, if you take Todd at face value at this point, when "sweet little lies" has been a meme for over a decade, it kind of is your fault. In the BEST case, he's an overpromising exaggerater, in the worst case he's cynically lying to market the game. Either way anything Todd touches should be a day 1 pirate and then MAYBE buy if the game is fixed with mods a year later.

​@@Uncanny_Mountain im not sure where you get your numbers from, but im pretty sure star citizen has eaten more than 200 mil at this point. Also, while i find sc far superior when it comes to gameplay, i wouldnt compare them at any level currently, with sc being at least 10 years away from beta stage and them being different genres outside of the space setting.

All depends on the writer. It's like reading books. There are books that send the reader to the outcome that the author want. There are books that narrate the story and let the reader fantasize. To be honest, BG3 is nothing special. It's just one of its kind. Many people got hyped because they like BG3's kind. And to be honest, there haven't been many games of such kind recently. That's what makes BG3 seem special.

@@haihuynh8337if it’s one of its kind that means it’s special dude and if the story your trying to lead the reader to is shit then that invalidates the whole thing

@@Mikeyboy779 Everything relies on the author/writer, not the game itself. A game is not special, the story and universe it attempts to depict is. In term of game mechanism, BG3 is not special nor new. The mechanism of Star Citizen is special and new, not BG3. Baldur's Gate has been my favorite because of its universe and story. And it dated since Baldur's Gate 1, 2, Icewind Dale, etc. So BG3 is just another one with a more traditional table top turn-based combat - which I don't like because it breaks the immersion too much for me. Starfield is different than BG3 because it's a mix of fast pace 1st/3rd person ground and space combat and the traditional storytelling RPG (which is not really good due to the writer). Instead of BG3 that only focuses on the story and the safe approach of table-top turn-based combat (which is used by so many games recently due to its easiness to implement compared to real time combat), Starfield spreads across many gameplay mechanisms and ends up not being the best of many of them. But at least in Starfield, if I can't enjoy the deep and logical story like in Baldur's Gate series, I can still enjoy the fast paced combats, collecting and customizing gears, designing spaceships and having fun with them, or simply building an outpost on a weird planet and enjoying the view. I doubt that BG3 would bring such mechanisms on the table. For me, BG3 might be interesting for a few times but once the story is through, I'll get bored, especially by the turn-based combat.

true, starting with the writing and environmental design, to notably its genre as its identity. heard BG3 as a crpg is even considered as an immersive sim.

The term you're looking for is "railroading"

Yea that’s what I love. U don’t even have to complete mainline quests if u don’t want to. Just do what u like and u still have fun

As much as missing a questline sucks, I love it more when the option exists. Its such a weird thing to like that you can miss a quest or scene because of your actions

I still haven't gotten past the beginning of the game after u crash the game is confusing as hell and even on the normal difficulty I lose a fight in a well I jumped into :/

In my first playthrough I couldnt find the road to the goblin camp, eventually found a cliff overlooking it and just jumped down the cliff rather than using the giant open main entrance.

Almost no games deserve even 7 out of 10. Most games at most are 4 or 5 out of 10.

Yeah anyone that rated it that high is really risking their legitimacy

I feel it’s a solid 6.5, 7 tops. I enjoyed the game but it absolutely deserves every scrap of criticism it’s getting.

Considering Starfield on par with Planescape Torment is actual sacrilege

@@Kura-Kekoa My thoughts precisely.

Is it bad I completely agreed with him on that?

Some super Mario games are even more open world than this.

@@shinybearevidra Some? I thought most were after the 64 came out.

Difference between open world and sandbox is the thing.

That argument makes no sense whatsoever. Even more so when in the same breath people claim BG3 is an open world when it is the most linear crpg on the planet.

My MC danced with Wyll but turned away at the kiss suggestion afterward. The pain in his face and voice broke me up, ngl

6+ years of development + being the top 15 most expensive game by development cost helps.

@@threestars2164 Starfield had double BG3's budget and about 1.4x more time in development. Want to try a more valid excuse?

​@@threestars2164 Where did you get that top 15 most expensive game by development cost from? I couldn't find any list of most expensive games with baldurs gate 3 on it, and the numbers I found were ~100 million Dollars for Baldurs gate 3 and ~200 million Dollars for Starfield.

impossible to implement often means we dont want to throw time/money at it

I'll be honest, I was doubting some features that would be difficult for Larian to implement due to how the engine worked, like reactions and flight. And fuck me, they did it anyway. Shows how conditioned I've been by mainstream game development.

Impossible for US to implement. They're unskilled. Also, their engine sucks, and it would be exceedingly difficult to implement that feature in that engine. Larian put years into making this engine actually work for this game, instead of either using a bandaided 20 year old engine, or trying to shoehorn an FPS engine into their game

Ironic, considering that Larian refuse to implement simple mechanics like drag+drop character selection and instead choose to keep using retarded mechanics like 'character chaining' instead. They refuse to implement day/night cycles too. Pathetic. Let's not pretend Larian are great. They are fucking terrible.

@@irrellevents Pure delusion. Larian are amateurs and can't even implement features that were present in BG1 and BG2 20+ years ago. They are comparatively more competent than Bethesda, but that doesn't take much. Larian's games are SHIT too. More fun than the cancer Bethesda produces, but still shit.

play souls games

play souls games

@@kaelinvoker8331 it's better than most but not nearly up to that level

Oh hell yeah I agree. Was playing through Raft and got to the same conclusion. That game has a few easy puzzles that stumped me and made me consider looking up a walkthrough guide. Then I remembered that id exactly what I wanted out of a game and how they used to be. I had so much fun solving the puzzles after that, even brought out pen and paper for the Tangaroa one. The puzzles aren't even that hard, it's just that the game doesn't keep throwing additional clues at you or solve it for you. You either figure it out yourself or you're stuck. Don't think I've felt as smart or had as fun playing a game since Kerbal Space Program.

Try Divinity original sin 2, the game Larian made before BG3

that was suprising to me as well, I wasn't expecting I could jump into the hole to the crypt. bg3 is very open ended when it's comes to decision.

You can also send 1 or 2 people into the main door, and have them lure all the bandits to where the rock falls, then have a party member outside knock the rock down to crush them.

919 hours. (granted 500 of them was in Early Access) but still... SAME lol

Agreed. 350 hours in between me and my wife and we just hit act 3. Neither of us feels like we're even past the "beginner" stage and we LOVE it. Game is an absolute masterpiece.

200 hours over two playthroughs here and I STILL have at least 5 different playthroughs (minus origin playthroughs) before I've seen ALMOST everything. Not even different story decision combos, but I mean EVERYTHING. Durge playthroughs, race playthroughs, missed content, etc

That's not depth. It's breadth.

3 years of early access can do that it's quite surprising huh

Fun fact: if you use feather fall, you can use that pit to enter the underdark properly.

Fun fact: if you knock the spider queen down there you can use Glut to raise her as a spore zombie and fight for you.

@@kittydaddy2023 lol i did not know that, thanks for the tip

Oh BG3 is polished AF! I hope it makes our gamer consumer bar so high that we expect that level of detail. Now we need Microsoft/Activision/Blizzard/ + Every one else! To jump on board....

​@@kostiskarianakis5570 @kittydaddy2023 holy how dynamic and reactive the world is, no wonder its considered as an immersive sim. wild they've manage to anticipate players next move based from the amount of things offered on screen and even based on players decisions

Dragon age origins did it before, why is it praiseworthy?

I’ve talked to multiple who told me it was their favorite RPG, and even in their top 3 games. I’d put it in my top 5, below Elden Ring, but definitely better than fallout 3. I honestly have no clue what people are talking about. If you look for bugs, you find them, so stop trying to and actually play it normally

cool to know you missed the entire point of this and the other vids@@chrismichaelis7259

​@@chrismichaelis7259 Pigs also think slop is good, does that mean that we should all eat slop instead of proper food? A boring uninspired game like this charging you 70$ has no business having a personal army of fanboys, but because it has the Bethesda name attached to it, this cash grab gets special treatment

@@MrNoot39449 or perhaps entertain this crazy idea, I know its insane but perhaps there is a bunch of people who actually like it? I mean could it possibly be that Bethesda scratches an itch that others dont and a lot of people have?

I've been playing games for 30 plus years and I've never played a 10/10 game, I've played a few 8 or 9s, plenty of 7, but most fall in the 4-6 bracket, most games in my mind are just ok.

Maybe you reloaded your save before the owl cub started eating his mom!

​@@scullyythe mom also ate the cub's older bro. nature is metal af.

Threw the Spectator that was in that jar into the Gith patrol where you can meet Laezel (if you turned her away initially). Not even kidding, they killed it in TWO TURNS. Luckily I rolled a few crits and managed to finish them off by pushing them off the bridge (a few times) but Laezel, Astarion and my character all died and needed to be revived for it to actually work. Gith patrol is cracked man, I didn't know what else to do to get through it 😅

The mom ate her own son, and the cub ate it’s mom after it died, if that helps lol. I felt the same until it started eating her 😯😳

​​@@3XZDggGotta recycle those nutrients. Thats also why stressed out animals eat their young. If a predator threatens to eat your babies, you're better off eating them yourself and denying them the meal so you stay strong and start a new nest. Its brutal but strangely pragmatic.

"Both games give you the urge to reload after dialogue to test the other options." That's how I've ended up with 80+ GB of recorded footage.

Just another argument against bg3. The entire game is linear, just with heaps of worthless extra dialogue to make it seem like it isn't.

@@threestars2164 You are pretty much completely wrong but whatever

the combat is good. But the RP elements are trash and the story pacing and writing are pure cancer. If this was just a TB strategy game then maybe it would be a masterpiece, but as a CRPG it's a fuckin joke.

It’s a true dilemma On one hand we love to see people into the chasm, but their loot flies with them :(

@@Molotov_Milkshake Kek, sure buddy.

? What slavers in the understand? I've clearly missed them. The dark dwarves?

@@cottoncandiez8872 yep, the dark dwarves, or duergar, are a raiding and enslaving sort of kind

I'm curious what kind of dishes would be considered that bad 😂😂😂

Yeah no. People like Starfield because it's a "Bethesda game" and they are riding on Skyrim nostalgia. Calling it impressive in a slap in face of people who made games like BG3 or even Cyberpunk. Fallout 4 came out same year as Witcher 3. Yet when you play Cyberpunk you don't feel like its reskinned Witcher with graphic tweaks. Cyberpunk is completely different new thing. Meanwhile Starfield feels like Fallout 3 (which felt just like Skyrim with guns) in space.

@@macccu I wish Starfield felt like Fallout 4 in space to me. I'd have enjoyed playing it then.

@@macccu I wasn't using the word "impressive" in a positive sense...

@@macccuDid you stop reading three words in?

as Angry Joe once said " As wide as an ocean, but has the depth of a puddle "

So literally the same as bg3.

@@Dead_Goat How old are you, 12? I reckon you've never read a book in your life.

​@@Dead_GoatCope

@@Dead_Goat you have got to be kidding me

@@Dead_Goat cry some more

In saying, "No, I had just learned to turn my brain off," the person suggests a self-realization: they had become accustomed to not thinking critically or actively engaging while gaming, instead relying on external resources like game guides or wikis to provide straightforward answers. The person does not explicitly take a "side" in the gaming debate, but their reflection seems to critique the trend in some modern games that guide players too explicitly, preventing them from fully engaging with or appreciating the gaming experience. They seem to favor a gaming experience that encourages or requires more active thought and engagement, as with the design of "Elden Ring" and "BG3". The person seems to advocate for a gaming experience where players need to think and engage more actively, which they believe enhances the overall experience.

Same with me. I even did the no brain thing with BG3 in the beginning until little details like the Astarion no reflection thing came up among others and I was like "wait, me checking things out and getting information to predict future events is rewarded? The game lets me do stuff on my own?" And I felt like the cogs long filled with cobwebs not turning finally began to be used. It was at first even slightly annoying to think so much on every quest but over time I realized "wait this is how I used to enjoy media or anything really" and never looked back. Now when I play a brain dead game like starfield I have to just make up stories in my head just to keep the ol brain engine warm since the game isn't gonna let me figure things out on my own.

Same here. And I still shut it off by accident lol

@@thedoomslayer5863 It was Raphael in bg3 that woke me up. I had to really think about whether or not to take his deal because it also implied that I could have taken a drastically different path with regard to the guardian character. I had to ask myself what he knew, why he was asking at this point in time, and what this meant for the motives of the guardian.

Try playing Tunic.

im pretty sure todd is a pathological liar at this point man spews so much BS you would think he ran a farm not a game studio.

@@Silentpoppymakes you wonder why Todd is given free passes to this type of promotional deceit; any other figurehead known for consistent overpromising would be treated like Molyneux

@colinmullally5747 this is why I no longer buy games at launch. People do themselves a disservice to blindly buy a game based on deceptive, proven time and time again, marketing. No Mans Sky was gamers waking up - it actually red pilled me to the state of modern games development and marketing. Cyberpunk 2077 was gamers fighting back - having played RED, I refunded 2077 after trying to love it. (Which is funny because No Mans Sky is absurdly good now and 2077's 2.0 is how I imagined it could be) but those instances of developers making a come back can not become the trend that developers cling to; their end product must be what developers strive to launch. Bethesda's design philosophy is outdated. They refuse to innovate on their own unique systems that are falling a part - the quirky, janky AI isn't charming anymore. Starfield would've been acceptable 12 years ago, not today. People refuse to accept objective reality when their subjective opinions are affirmed by the developers, the "reviewers," and the echo chambers they call "communities." Subjective fun does not equal objective good.

play Icewind Dale 2, Avernum 3, Arcanum and Planescape. they fought so baldurs 3 could jog safe at night.

@@Silentpoppy listening to the words he says and his opinion of his own games makes me wonder if he has some inflated understanding of what his games are even capable of achieving because half the shit he says his games can do, they can't. It's quite bizarre.

Gotta admit though, its a perfectly reasonable reaction to a vampire attempting to feed on you. But I keep my party members alive to see their stories unfold for the sake of more content.

hurt his, too.

like OG rpg and crpg before, but reactivity and interactivity in this scale i havent seen before till BG3. also the voice work w/ the scale of dialogues of the game

this... but for me it's that horrifying Gale/Dark urge interaction

​@@Svoorhout85sick pfp.

Right? HIs broken hearted face! Still haunts me!!! And bloody Asstarion dumped me anyway for being too much of a folk hero... what a fool I was to reject Wyll!

I didn’t really like Wyll until I encountered his dance scene. It was so on point. I danced for 15 years in folk group, it was my life for 2/3 of my years. The way he danced was so realistic and passionate. I was really sad that I had to broke his heart, because I already romanced Shadowheart

I’ve been *hardcore* focused on romancing Gale since I got the game. I was so focused on it that I ended up getting Wyll in my party wayyyy later than I should have. Like way way later than I should have lol. (I did the entirety of Act 1 in painstaking detail, besides the creche, before I even went into the Druid area in the grove. So I recruited wyll after pretty much all of act one 😬) I had a total of 2 conversations with him, and knew absolutely nothing about him or his backstory. Somehow he still tried to jump my bones at the tiefling party, and he was so darn sweet and smooth I just about abandoned Gale right then and there! Which I never would have thought possible. Man’s got that gentleman rizz and his voice is like honey. 🫠

His eyes when you turn him down are the saddest puppy dog eyes I've ever seen! 🥺

I didn't care... I mean the dude should have known better. My character was pretty much in the Shadowheart train from day one, so if he tried that thinking he had a shot, he already failed. I actually like Wyll as a character, but that just didn't move me.

If you did bg3 in 80 hours, you missed half of it. And to be honest, even if you are meticulous about exploring every detail (down to and including reading all the books and notes) which would take at least 150 hours, you _cannot_ explore all of it in a single playthrough. Perhaps not even in two or three playthroughs. Because choices have consequences, and when you make one, hours of content disappears into the ether, so you can explore the content which does result from your choice. And some of the details are so subtle that it's possible to be the only non-dev to have figured some of the minor bits of storytelling out. There are expertly researched playthrough guides which missed details, story, dialogue options, possible solutions, surprising loot, etc.

there's like 17,000 endings for baldurs gate, its literally impossible to do everything in the game.@@kathrynck

I dread playing Starfield for 10 playthroughs as per devs intention. There isn't enough content and dynamic systems in it compared even to other bethesda games.

I was waiting for somebody to show the starborn ships, landed and unscannable, even on the first play. I've seen five and I'm only lvl 37. Companions don't even react.

yeah, and here is me. 200h into starfield and finding still something new.. and now?

Learned something new!

It's a great interaction, but not unique to that NPC. For anyone who doesn't know, this works for anyone you've killed.

It really does. It makes you realize that a lot of adventure games are more like amusement park rail rides than actual open world experiences.

Have you ever stopped to think that it’s the closest we have got to a TTRPG because it IS a TTRPG? It’s even got the turn based combat and dice roll probably mechanics. It’s literally just a digital TTRPG in a setting that has existed for almost 40 years.

@@davidpeterson3147you say that like there's an abundance of games that gives that much freedom in modern games

wow lol, sounds like you've never played a CRPG before. Wait til you play a real one with some depth (unlike Larian's trash).

@@Molotov_Milkshakebro. I get you’re keen to improve engagement on this video, but you’re literally talking rubbish to do so.

You can scream that group of Gith away?! Woah. I have to remember this for later... So far I talked my way out or had to fight with tooth and nail and the help of three helpful ogres. xD

@@Sketchblopp Yeah! With Barbarian, you can just pull your best Eustace Bags impression out and go "Ooga booga booga!!!" and they leave you alone.

@@Molotov_Milkshakey’know most people just leave a bad review and go, don’t have to go mocking other people for their opinions

Also if you silence Raphael in the fight, song would change, cause there wouldn't be Raphael's voice

I was like, why should I bow to this godlike being? Or be polite? Let's be a bit snotty. What is the worst that could happen. The game did not elaborate on why pissing off a god is a bad idea. Everything else is always played out in great detail. In this case the game was really, really blunt and simply told you that you are dead. Didn't elaborate. Pissed off a god? You are dead. No tentacles. No generic messy explosion in gore and viscera. Just a pissed-off DM who tells you that insulting a god to their face can only go one way and if you want to reload.

@@bjorn-falkoandreas9472 Little bit of a correction, Vlaakith is not a god. She WANTS to be a god, but so far no luck. The way she kills you is by utilizing the Wish spell, which calls to an ACTUAL god to do the work.

@@SaveMeXenu Yeah, she's technically a Demilich. Kinda like a lich which is nudging into demi-god territory.

​@@bjorn-falkoandreas9472to be fair She isnt a god, and all she did was cast wish Not like the lady of pain

Hahah I did the same thing and wasn’t shocked she turned me into a ton of giblets.

The fact it's still worse than Bethesda's own previous titles does not bode well for TE6. Although I haven't expected much from Bethesda in a very long time.

@@Mirthful_Midori they should just not even bother trying to get es6 out this gen and just use that time to switch to a completely different engine and make it a next gen title for like 2030

@@BrokenMessiah1i said this back when they announced they‘re working on starfield. It would have been way better from the beginning. But it’s all a money move, otherwise they would have started the work on an actual new engine back when people said that fallout 4 felt dated already.

it's not@@Mirthful_Midori

​@@SkintSNIPER262it is.

I agree. Never played a more gamey game than SF lately. Does BGS even know what immersion is.

Different tastes, I guess. I get that it's not realistic, but as a player, I want to be able to hear everything, especially any unique conversations that are going on. It drives me nuts when npcs talk over each other. Mars was particularly 'bad' in this way, because you have npcs doing 1-off conversations, plus the constant announcements over the PA, plus screen-shaking explosions, plus chatter from npcs who wander into 'greeting range', plus your companion randomly commenting...

I love how Cyberpunk had that same negotiation for a thing scene and the difference in execution is staggering.

I mean, aint this just how bethesda games be?? Like, fallout 4, 3, skyrim?

@@ladykryo4592On the one hand, yes, absolutely, this is the same problem as it's always been. On the other hand, since Starfield presents us with futuristic, densely-populated settings, we would expect the people there to behave like anyone else in a busy city, right? If Nazeem stops us in the street square, or the people in Freeside stare at the new person in town, we know that's fine enough, because they're medieval or post-apocalyptic fantasies and someone new coming into town is likely a bit deal for some of those locales (maybe some Starfield locations count too). But despite acting in largely the same way they always have, because the context of Starfield is different, cities can feel _especially_ fake and hollow, because in real life, not everyone is watching and following you.

I refunded that game like 10 mins in. It wouldn’t let me bind space to jump and that soured my whole experience.

Honestly we'd be here all day if we broke down everything CP does better than SF.

Previous games have done that years ago

How about dialogue that actually changes the outcome of the quest? Its not like its 2023 or anything

Yes, Cyberpunk 2077 tried to be a full life sim RPG, couldn't in the end, but at least it doesnt hide its depth behind illusory texts that have same replies.

@@HierophanticRose tbh I feel like only the marketing department made CP2077 to be some sort of SIM. The core design of the game itself seems to have very little trace of this notion.

Agreed. *Astarion approves* lol 🎉🎉🎉

People compare Cyberpunk to Starfield in the wrong ways you need to compare the release version to it... not the full paid Update after 3years that makes people pay 2x for the same game or the game they said it will be, and it's still only 50%there so you can expect the rest in another full paid Dlc and you can get the full game for 3x the price.

@@UmbraWeiss I don't think you are being fair to the game. I played it at launch on PC and did not experience all the issues people mostly complain about. The story, voice acting, graphics, amazing world - they were there from the start. The broken cop system and glitches were there too, 100%, no argument there. But now the 2.0 release is FREE to owners of the game. Even if you do not buy the DLC and pick up the original game on sale you still get the full original story + revamped leveling and improved vehicle, cop, etc systems. You don't pay twice for it, you can literally have the vastly improved original for 50% or less. Whether you want to buy the DLC afterward is completely separate.

@@UmbraWeissI call BS. Played it on launch on PC. Certainly had problems but the day it released Cyberpunk was a better game than SF. No contest. Better looking, better written, better designed.

@@munchkingod6 Exactly. Even Cyberpunk at its worst is better than Starfield at its best.

@@UmbraWeiss Sure, starfield has fewer technical difficulties. But Cyberpunk, even on release, had still better: music, side content, exploration, story, dialogues, characters, ambiance and combat. With all the technical buggy jank, Cyberpunk was still superior in almost every single aspect to this turd. Also, the fact that Cyberpunk 2077 became good after almost 3 years still says something. Bethesda never fixes their games, modders do. The only game Bethesda tried to fix was Fallout 76 because it is an online game with no mod support. Starfield in three years will be the same Starfield that we have now. Besides I doubt Bethesda can fix: terrible writing, terrible story, shitty characters, boring as fuck meaningless exploration, bland music and janky combat. Maybe somewhere in 2024 we'll get a DLC with exploration vehicles and 5-hour long side story and that's it. Core game will remain what it is - the midest of mid games 2023.

Thats just one encounter in a game full of unique encounters. I understand TBS isn't for everyone or even RP heavy story but man if you are then BG3 is amazing.

I came from the left and when the fight started I pushed him from the barrel 😂

Pretty sure you need a critical success to open the door near the beach.

@@HappyLarry. Nah. Just get Astarian, get the smuggler's ring, and go back to the door when you're level 3 and preferably with a full party. Remember you can avoid that whole section for as long as you want.

Except there is no difference between going that way and any other. Everything is literal the same.

For me gale grew from horny and happy wizard to horny for power and not so happy wizard … wait am I a bad influence

@@brichess8227 Maybe you need to wear more makeup next time. 😉

You can completely miss them, for example I have no idea who the fuck Gale is lmao

I never met gale because the narrator said it was dangerous to reach into a weird void so I didn’t lol. Didn’t realise until after I beat the game that I missed a major companion

On my first playthrough, I never even found Astarion. On my second playthrough, I cut Gale's hand off when he needed help out of that portal and never saw him again. This type of freedom doesn't exist in any other game.

No fucking way, I need to try this!!!

@@Bokmohthere is a spell that can force people into an irresistible dance, so you can make him groove with his own song

You can silence him to. same effect@@Bokmoh

@@Bokmoh He is a bard, so it makes perfect sense. He is also a Disney villain so it makes double sense :)

Wow you guys are easily empressed.. baldurs gate doesn't even have 1/1000th of planets to visit. It also doesn't let you create custom space ship. Also no space piretes

******puts glasses on****** You simply got... Todd-Howered. *******puts glasses on****** YYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH also known as Toddied, or when it's really a spicy one you can say he/she/they got Toddsterd"

lol meanwhile, over in BG3, giving Shadowheart an idol of Shar while romancing her as a cleric of Selune: SH, "Is this some kind of trick? Why would a Selunite do this?" Tav, "Cause I like you and your faith matters to you, so it matters to me. Now shut up and kiss me like you hate me." SH, still trying to figure out what your angle is but she can't back down when provoked, "Easily done."

Omg, are you kidding me?? Sorry for the late reply I only just got to the end of the game, was busy with BG3. I did her romance and was contemplating making a new character who worships the serpent to see how it affects the romance, expecting a different experience..... Jesus, Bethesda has become the laziest RPG dev out there. It's not funny anymore. Thank you for saving me from that disappointment.

That could easily be a bug, something BG3 has plenty of. Lot's of flags just don't get set/set wrongly. Heck there where a lot of ways to bug the game so where you could get the drow companion as well as halsin etc.

You literally stated that "I was a follower of the Great Serpent". What about now - during the moment of your romance with Andreja? What did you do to show her that you're still a follower of the Great Serpent? Or rather, you are more of a follower of the artifacts and the Unity?

Enter the trashfield and become the trashborn Unity is just a recycling bin 😂😂😂

Sounds like a waste of time. A few lines from Torquato Tasso outweigh those 19k lines bruh.

If you think Starfield is a regression from Skyrim, look at how much got gutted between Skyrim and Morrowind.

pushing enemies off cliffs is the single best way to win battles in BG3, its hilarious every time

my BG3 moment was when i killed the drow goblin leader by bitch slapping her with a salami

Like Odysseus slaughtering the suitors.

I did the EXACT same thing lol

Sounds like a really deep, challenging tactical experience.

I'm almost 30 years old and have been a gamer since I was 3. For me, BG3 is the game of my lifetime, not just this year.

BG3 is the most overrated garbage game of 2020 to release in 2023 propped up by youtubers and reddit morons.

BG3 changed my definition of a full featured game. It’s crazy well done.

god damn really? thats insane

@handson4580 100%. If you've fought it you know the boss I'm talking about in act 1.

Holy shit! That's dope! I also pushed the spider but into the abyss. Didnt think about pushing it in the underdark. First time, I just jumped into the underdark without feather fall and I just game overed lol.

@CptVein yeah the fact that it was lootable after a cinematic and a loading screen was insane. I pushed it into a new zone and the game knew.

you know whats crazy? i never met that boss

Also: depending on your choices, they can all change a lot. The one that got me was in Act 3, when Astarion approved when I fed a hungry orphan, and then approved when I let her stay at my camp. “Oh, huh, he’s changed.”

Nobody thinks they're evil, no matter how evil they are.

@@josenob1 I think Orin might be the one big exception to the rule

@@josenob1 people fall into malice and depravity, or just hate themselves. I'd say those people would consider themselves "evil".

"strategically evil" is utilitarian / machiavellian thinking. Unless it is done out of pure joy, rather than tactical advantage.

It happens more often than you think BaerTaffy (look him up on YT) Streams a lot of darkest dungeons.... The Madman you can encounter in that game are voiced by him AmaLee (Monarch) Streams a lot of games too, amongst those is Honkai Starrail for which she voiced a couple of characters same with a close collaborator of hers like CyYu (Disgaea, Persona, Streetfighter 6 Male protag) Gotta say though... I shouldn't have been surprised about Matthew but I was and now it finally clicks where I heard his voice before (the character's I meant; not Matthew's as I watch a lot of his campaign streams)

You should learn it by playing a proper CRPG like Baldur's Gate 1+2 and Pillars of Eternity, Tyranny and others. BG3 is dumbed down and not even a real sequel, nor a real CRPG honestly.

@Molotov_Milkshake I'm gonna be honest I found more entertainment reading your comments of hatred for anyone enjoying BG3 than the video. It might be simpler and more dumbed down compared to the original BG's or Pillars of Eternity but it's brought alot of attention to CRPG's as whole. You need to chill mate.

Honestly I can't be _too_ mad when I fail my check like that, seeing how that was the first time he'd ever drank from a human (and therefore the first time he ever needed to stop before he killed whatever he's feeding on)

Wait he kills you if you let him just continue?!? I let him have a taste but pushed him off, didn't know he went full haam 😂

@@Bokmoh He gets absolutely lost in the sauce

@@Bokmoh Extra funny: Once you have someone else raise you, he is surprised but happy it didn't went as bad as he expected. And then he tries to be like "let's not make a big thing out of that, you are fine now" or something along these lines. Bro, you killed me, how is this not a big deal! xD

It's obvious he's a vampire from the very first conversation (in which you can see his teeth), but I suspected as much from the marketing art. White hair, pale skin, and red eyes? Maybe it's anime that's prepared me, but 1+1+1=3. Plus, the bite marks were obvious. It didn't even occur to me that vampires in the game wouldn't be able to daywalk.

I just dont get how the fuck people play more than 20 hours of ANY game and say "yeah, it's not good" how did you get through like 2-shifts + some in a GAME, and you didn't find enjoyment for 20 hours? That's weird. I can't get through 2 hours of a game I'm not enjoying. So many people are like "yeah after 100 hours..." huh?? you played 100 hours of a video game in a month? No wonder you're tired of the fucking game lol you need to stop playing games in general

Just wait, once they reach that 80 hour mark they can't criticize the game anymore because they obviously had fun with it. Otherwise why would they play for 80 hours?

@@OmegaZyion They'll say after 80 hours, they were tired of the same content over and over. You don't say?"

@@OmegaZyionbrain dead take. hope you’re joking

@@tragc Sarcasm is a difficult thing on the internet.

Karlach making fun of them was godly. What a way to dodge a fight.

There is one really interesting thing about this. If you play as the Durge and go the evil path and kill everyone in the grove before Alfira tries to join you, instead of her, to the camp comes female dragonborn bard. Well... and of course the same happens to her as to Alfira And I've read that there are ways to make sure she is alive and that dragonborn comes instead If you go to camp and she wants to join, reload save before going to camp, go to her in her place and knock her out (non-lethal damage) and go to camp Dragonborn will come, you kill them, and then Alfira is still alive

I assume you typo created that pun? "I felt very bard for her'

Yes, it was a typo, and not the only one. Typing on a tiny phone is the pits!

Also, if you play as a character without musical skill (a non-bard) you can help her by playing along with here on a lute. There are 2 performance checks, and if you pass both of them, you not only are gifted the lute from the Bard, but you also get proficiency in musical instruments. This works in normal and dark urge play-throughs. (and if you already are a bard, you can have a companion start the dialogue and do the skill checks instead)

You can also meet up with her in Act 3 on the roof of the Elfsong Tavern.

3 years worth of open playtesting by the audience will do that to a game. The open beta and Larians earnest effort to adapt the game to that feedback is how BG3 happened. Why more studios dont do this is beyond me. They form an echo chamber in the studio and just hope the audience will enjoy it. That is Starfield.

It's funny how you can go into bg3 trying to break the game, only to find the dev's accounted for your mischief (like throwing away a plot mcguffin for a game over, or transmog the group into githyanki in the creche while turning lae'zel into a human). Starfield is very linear and frustrating if you don't play the way the dev's intend (the morally good paragon who has the opportunity to sometimes do evil things for the lols).

@@TheKillaShow There was an interview with an ex-Bethesda dev who said what made Todd special is that he could put himself in the shoes of the average player while the rest of them can't. Is that why every other game on the market it is trouncing it in terms of quality and QOL features? He knows what the player wants but even he admits his favorite mods are the UI mods. Starfield requires completely different buttons to do the same thing in different parts of the many menus you'll shuffle through, is that what players want Todd? If you're unsure of what players want, how can you even be sure Todd knows?

They tested the first chapter. It quickly deteriorates after that.

@@nonyabisness6306not true

So much time wasted by Larian when they could have just learned from Bethesda that all you need is to have one conversation and the guards let you out to recruit you 🤡

@@catbert7 i don't even know if this is sarcasm or not lol 🤣

​@@PicesQlikely sarcasm. Considering that we all are in agreement Bethesda cut some corners a whole damn lot

​@@VekcrazahBethesda cut so many corners they made a circle

and that circle is very bad@@justohird5685

Kethereic was good, but in my opinion he was the worst antagonist in bg3

just wait until you get to a certain * evil * fight later on, now that one i will truly remember for years.

I feel like I've seen Ketheric in any fantasy story ever. Good guy loves his daughter, because corrupted and evil, but still good guy kind of.

@@TheCentralScrutinizerAgain yeah i liked the other bosses but something about the events of act 2 and reading the journals, exploring the mausoleum and the tower and going into the oubliette was just so cool to me. I loved that section of the game.

play Icewind Dale 2, Avernum 3, Arcanum and Planescape. they fought so baldurs 3 could jog safe at night.

False. BG3 is wide as puddle and deep as a lake If you've played it you'd know and not write BS. The game has a normal (for a proper gamer, not genz low attention span simpletons) depth story, but has a small maps and is limited AF. Nor random encounters not anything interesting. All is scripted. You spend 100 hours to explore it throughly and pretty much that is it. There's very limited replayability. While with Starfield their problem is it's using their severely outdated engine and asking a premium for the title. Starfield would be fair if sold for $30-35.

Bg3 is the most linear rpg ever. Theres a loit of awesome mechanics, creativity. But: Save Scumming is so painfully incentivized. Didn't make charisma your dumpstat on your fighter? Fail a bunch of speech checks that lead to unwinnable odds. Missed a small piece of content from act 1? You story changes dramatically because you didnt do X task. Go back in saves. Bugged companions, bugged conversations? Go back in saves. The feeling of newness in Act 1 was dead to me because I had to keep redoing content. I'm so tired of hearing the narrator talk about those fucking gnolls. Bg3 is entirely comprised of linear encouters. Well thought out, well designed encounters, all of them, but linear. There is a lot of variety and possibilities in Baldur's Gate, but be honest, bro. It's an extra line of dialogue, a slightly different scene. But there aspects of your game that will change deeply are very very minimal. Minthara is probably the biggest one. But between Tav and Durge, you have two playthroughs with slightly different shades. I realized, from the jump, when I could play origin characters in the main game that yes, this game is designed with so much linearity that all of these characters are interchangeable in any scene. THat's cool! But it's not as deep as you think - it's the illusion of depth jjust like any game. That very niche scene that accounts for your very niche decision -- that is awesome and I love bg3 for it. It doesn't change your game very much, your gameplay or anything. It's a different window in a great looking house. I've been playing Starfield since I was 7 years old. I know exactly how a Bethesda game is going to play since I played Morrowind. It's a sandbox with content for me to headcanon my own story with, just like I've done with: morrowind, oblivion, skyrim, f3, fnew vegas, fallout 4... I can make my own story and headcanon with what they give me. I've been doing this just fine in Starfield. Bg3 is a great game, but I think people bought into the hype a lot and ignored the flaws. Por ejemplo my performance with Bg3 was/is an actual nightmare. The same was true for starfield until i moved to my ssd, now it runs better than Bg3 runs now. Bg3 is good but I just feel like it was a lot of people's first in depth c/rpg.

​@@tommyb6611 Did you even play BG3? A scripted game is not a bad thing, and story RPGs rely on a strong script. Take a look at Dragon Age, Mass Effect, The Witcher, or any other CRPG. And it is not just RPGs. Look at shooters like Half-Life 2 or the Bioshock series. Many strategy games have scripted events in the campaign. The fact that there are so many options to play BG3 makes it a great game. You don't have to kill every enemy in the game. You have the option to either talk your way out or just befriend them. It's possible to sneak and steal and drive the story forward this way. It's easy to tell a linear story. But in an RPG you make choices, and depending on how big they are, they can change the story a lot. And scripting all those possibilities is a insane task. And you really think BG3 story is shallow and has a limited replayability?

​​@@TheClaysie No one said that a scripted game is a bad thing. The point that he was making is that the original comment doesn't make sense because baldur's gate 3 is not "as wide as an ocean" it is geographically a relatively small game with a massive amount of depth within that small world. Starfield is a gargantuan game with barely any depth. The reason why these games really aren't comparable is because they are trying to accomplish entirely different things and have a vastly different level design complexity that is feasible at their scale. Btw I'm not even a fan of starfield I just think this is a ridiculous video that completely ignores the realities of game development. We would have been waiting 20 years if every starfield quest had the same depth as BG3.

BG3 is overrated. A lot of the writing and characters are trash.

scampunk shouldn't even be talked about without being condemned..

@@threestars2164 Released buggy got fixed, but you probably accept that No Man's Sky, FO 76, Witcher 3 and such have been "fixed."

Sounds like you've never played a fucking CRPG. Typical BG3 fan.