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You Are Using Your Kayak Cart Wrong 

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Fishing kayaks seem to get heavier and heavier. Transporting your fishing kayak from your vehicle to the launch is made easier with the use of a kayak cart. Designs and models of kayak carts are as varied as fishing kayaks but placement of these carts is critical to reduce the amount of weight that the angler is burdened with holding up while pulling the kayak.
In this video I demonstrate how kayak cart placement influences the force need to keep the kayak off the ground.
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- Wilderness Systems Heavy Duty Cart: amzn.to/3dngGON
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@armyfazer1410
@armyfazer1410 Год назад
Placement was definitely my issue on the first day out. It was a rough start. But I'm learning what works and doesn't. Especially with videos like this.
@thegreat7861
@thegreat7861 10 месяцев назад
I’ve literally just purchased a set of wheels for my kayak and first time out I put them at one end. What a fool! Thanks for sharing this, I definitely won’t make the same mistake again 🙂
@yobee5779
@yobee5779 2 года назад
Wow, thanks for this incredible video. I am a 54 year old woman, trying to make things easier on my body. Waiting for the delivery of my first fishing kayak. Thanks again😁
@spiltmilt
@spiltmilt 2 года назад
That's great! I hope you enjoy your new kayak.
@b1_ferg
@b1_ferg 10 месяцев назад
Foundations of basic leverage 👌👌 It's funny how easily we can forget how to work smarter, not harder. Thank you, my friend.
@truenorthangler
@truenorthangler 2 года назад
Very happy you made this video. Saves me a lot of unnecessary weight that I don’t have to carry.
@stevehogan8829
@stevehogan8829 Год назад
This is an excellent video... i really appreciate the time it took to do this.. I just encountered a health issue and this is exactly what I'm struggling with. Thank you.
@JohnnySurfsideBeach
@JohnnySurfsideBeach Год назад
Thanks for this great tip. Just got a kayak and cart. This video seriously just made my life easier. Thanks for making this video!
@michaelangelo7511
@michaelangelo7511 Год назад
I am 76 and struggle with walking.I also put the wheels more central. Thirty years ago I would flip my canoe over my head , rest it on my shoulders and walk away. Ugh! Old age sucks.
@jspyrogram
@jspyrogram 2 года назад
Wow! Thanks for this info. I’m a 67 yr old woman and wondering how I was going to get my bigfish 103 pdl to the lake.
@minbrianbordley6809
@minbrianbordley6809 2 года назад
great lesson i have been hauling my 120 auto sport and felt w disabilities this was impossible to actually get to/on the water, but now feel this is so much more durable under the mid handle, i like the wilderness cart better than malone cart
@kingofhearts4395
@kingofhearts4395 Год назад
Great video. I was just taking measurements to build my kart and was going to put it just behind the seat. Guess ill be moving to under the seat. Thumbs up on your video.
@tomsergesketter5138
@tomsergesketter5138 2 года назад
Great video. Just bought a kayak cart today. Very helpful.
@toddclarke3132
@toddclarke3132 Год назад
I have a PDL 120 and have not been a fan of the bow handle. The stern handles are so much more comfortable. Using your demonstration I may come to like my bow handle. Thanks for the video!!!
@pcolapaddler
@pcolapaddler Год назад
Good presentation. You are correct that some experimentation is warranted. The optimal position for balance may not be optimal for fitting the cart to the bottom of the kayak and, as you demonstrated, additional gear can change the balance as well. Speaking of additional gear, it should be remembered that it may be necessary to be able to pull/control this 'trailer' while going up and down hills, etc.
@Jarom.M
@Jarom.M 3 года назад
SCIENCE! Thanks for explaining it easily with tangible results displayed clearly.
@bushpilotdude7154
@bushpilotdude7154 8 месяцев назад
Outstanding video! Very informative, clear and to the point! Thank You for sharing! I am a new subscriber!
@debbiewrazen5233
@debbiewrazen5233 2 года назад
Great educational video on using the cart properly. I am 64 and just bought my first kayak. While I’m loving the kayak on the water, it is labor intensive for me to carry a 37 pound ( yes, you read correctly) kayak. Thanks for helping me.
@laurelnahorniak6448
@laurelnahorniak6448 3 месяца назад
Mine is 60 lbs, and I am 69
@PilzE.
@PilzE. 11 месяцев назад
Great idea for a video! Who knew? I would've just continued plodding along with my cart out back. Thank you, that'll save me some arm pumping power to land all those monsters!!!
@vegetaiv9275
@vegetaiv9275 Год назад
Thank you for your video! Thanks to it, I know the best position to load my kayak onto the cart.
@scottgrayson33
@scottgrayson33 3 года назад
Well done video. Thanks. I was watching for cart designs and this is helpful.
@douglasbrown9625
@douglasbrown9625 Год назад
Very nice video! I always had this thought running through my head, thank you for showing us. I’m looking to find one for my Vibe Seaghost 110.
@kirill_gusev
@kirill_gusev Год назад
Story of my life lol. I own large and heavy Predator PDL. Initially I went with boondox landing gear with inflatable wheels. Soon I realized that while inflatable wheels are probably beneficial on sand they make yak easily flippable if run over something on hard pavement. Or almost impossible to install on yak in the water. So I replaced them with c-tug sand trakz. Well then I realized that because they so back and close to stern I carry so much weight so I begun loading everythihng to the back of yack and assembling just before getting into water. Now I'm thinking I just need to get a small cart that i can pun underneath in the middle of yak and be done with it. Oh and remove 10 lbs of landing gear. Less is more.. Happy fishing everyone.
@stwesh1431
@stwesh1431 Год назад
Wow. I just bought an Old Town 120 PDL and this is very helpful.
@territodude
@territodude 2 года назад
Thanks, very useful info and makes sense to apply it out there. I'm thinking of making a vest harness that connects to a clip strap to the bow to make it almost zero, lol
@ShenpaiWasTaken
@ShenpaiWasTaken 3 года назад
Cool video! I don't think I've ever seen anyone explain this. Thanks for sharing!
@14Mentalist
@14Mentalist 9 месяцев назад
That is a brilliant review and info thank you. I will be putting my wheels on my sit on top in the middle 😊
@jonlobello7151
@jonlobello7151 3 года назад
Just recently I saw a guy in a vessel very similar to your electric Old Town kayak on a local lake here in the U.P. of Michigan. When I went back to the boat lunch I talked to the guy and he informed me that it was the same Old Town set up that you use and mentioned something about an Old Town Forum. I was very surprized in how big and heavy it was (150 lbs). He used a Jet Ski trailer to transport it on. And, we both marveled at how you are able to transport yours on top of your Subaru!?
@greyscout01
@greyscout01 Год назад
Plain and simple tutorial. Thanks. I appreciate the info.
@Justin-zs1ql
@Justin-zs1ql 2 года назад
This is exactly why I swapped out the Malone for the WS cart. The Malone never settled right in the optimal area to be placed for my Sportsman PDL 120.
@glennnewell2786
@glennnewell2786 2 года назад
You make great informative vids , thanks for your time.
@alexpazmino4762
@alexpazmino4762 3 года назад
Great presentation. Thank you for the tutorial. Keep up the great work.
@alabamaadventurer
@alabamaadventurer 2 года назад
Very cool video, very informative for a new kayaker like myself
@garychiang2568
@garychiang2568 3 года назад
I have the exact same kayak and wilderness systems cart. Just need to do both methods once with a fully loaded kayak to know what you’ve said is fact!
@dancelucy6942
@dancelucy6942 2 года назад
Excellent scientific methodolgy, my man!
@jefferyswartwood9412
@jefferyswartwood9412 Год назад
THAT! Was a great video!! Very informative!
@wilvandermeulen4930
@wilvandermeulen4930 3 месяца назад
I am today years old when I heard this! Brilliant mate!
@dudewheresmycar8506
@dudewheresmycar8506 3 года назад
Thank you man this was very informative and cool to watch
@handiman5
@handiman5 2 года назад
Great presentation & demo!
@jasonb4738
@jasonb4738 3 года назад
The kayak handles are placed at the center point unloaded.
@ninjarider84
@ninjarider84 2 года назад
I have a catch 130 and just bought the CTug and put it on the back....omg I was exhausted by the time I got it to the water from the parking lot lol I was barring all the weight on my arms and the front holder
@Heartwing37
@Heartwing37 Год назад
Great demo! Thank you!!!
@toznerd6369
@toznerd6369 Год назад
Squirrel alert, just off of the port bow in the brush line, at 1:34!
@DINKStyles
@DINKStyles Год назад
This is great information but it just the weight of lift the kayak not the weight of pulling the kayak. The weight of pulling the kayak will remain the same regardless where you put it.
@RogerFordTheSmilingBassHole
Fantastic information! Thanks!
@cricketthoffman9499
@cricketthoffman9499 10 месяцев назад
Common sense. Thanks for showing I have been doing it right all along.
@HendersonHookin
@HendersonHookin 2 года назад
I still get this question at least three times a day. I consider that good as it tells me our sport is growing.
@RyokanDaigu
@RyokanDaigu 2 года назад
Awesome demo! Very helful!!
@skmorrow96
@skmorrow96 2 года назад
Great video. I have honestly never seen anyone using a cart at the stern, that doesn't make any sense. Glad you are showing people how to use it the right way, but I am shocked people do it wrong.
@ghostface423
@ghostface423 Год назад
Thank you for the advice.🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
@whateverwhatever18
@whateverwhatever18 2 года назад
Great demonstration!
@stevenarseneault1972
@stevenarseneault1972 Год назад
I'd be carefull adding weight in a kayak while on a cart due to stress in one spot on the hull. The hull was designed to distibute the weight across the hull. Stay away from carts that insets into the scuppers as it causes stress on the joint in the scupper where the mold joins during construction. I've seen videos where guys were 8ut to sea far from shore and they had to rush back to shore while the hull was taking water. The back end of the kayak was submerged. The trapped air in the front of the hull was the only thing saving him. Once on shore they discovered a seperated scupper hole that was caused by his cart thst inserted in the scupper hole. Just an FYI for you all.
@kjfishman547
@kjfishman547 3 месяца назад
Great demonstration.
@Itsme83.
@Itsme83. 10 месяцев назад
Wish I woulda watched this before I had to pull mine back and forth up and down a hill to the lake. Lol
@vindictivesep
@vindictivesep Год назад
Thanks for intel boss, very helpful.
@mariedel2080
@mariedel2080 6 месяцев назад
Bravo! Très belle vidéo, images très claires
@SRH420ful
@SRH420ful 8 месяцев назад
my kayak is very heavy and I had all kinds of trouble with this situation (too heavy for me to lift so high to hit middle and my rudder is at risk of damage in the rear. it was easier to get the bar cart tied to the kayak just behind the seat while still on the trailer pull it down mostly off the trailer preventing ground contact with the rudder then lift the nose onto another set of wheels and tie it securely below my 2 batteries in the front compartment. Haha 4 wheels is the bomb and both fit in the rear plenty room on my 13ft Brooklyn kayak with trolling motor and blue floaties sticking way out but way back and out of the way. I have a 140c hummingbird dual beam fish finder and a fish finder I can cast up to 400 feet and watch a wireless screen in front of me. I rolled my kayak around my block to test the wheels and told everyone it was my new emotional support kayak
@NorthwestOpenSeason
@NorthwestOpenSeason 3 года назад
I only have 2 college degrees and educational background in engineering and physics, but I was still able to figure this out on my own 😁 It is amazing how effortless it feels when you get the wheels positioned just right. I just bought a PA and unloading it from my truck to the garage was easy, almost felt weightless. But I’m pretty sure no matter where I put the wheels, it’s gonna feel heavy pulling it up an incline though. Another great informative video of the small things some people take for granted, Tyler 👍
@Sanctified_EDC_Gear
@Sanctified_EDC_Gear 3 года назад
I have 0 College Degrees and Heavy is Heavy. And a PA14 or even a PA12 is are Heavy Tanks. Hull weight on PA 14 120.5 and fitted 144.5 if you put in your gear your talking 200+Pounds that's a Fat Heffer No matter where you put the wheels.
@ElliottCustomLures
@ElliottCustomLures 2 года назад
If I had a PA, Iid just wet launch off a trailer!
@denisvincent3249
@denisvincent3249 3 месяца назад
Great video thanks for sharing
@mjc1177
@mjc1177 Год назад
Wow this is amazing thanks for this
@wendemate8491
@wendemate8491 11 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for this. I have wheels that are made to plug into my Hobie kayak in one position only - which is behind the seat. The kayak is 73lbs and it's very heavy, awkward pull down my street to the dock. I was wondering if backloading it with a cooler, the removable seat, the pedal mechanism, etc, might help tilt the balance of the weight in my favor and you just answered that. I'm going to try it out and see if it lightens it enough. Thanks again!!!!
@jeronimo2152
@jeronimo2152 2 года назад
Great Demo!!
@bluenotgreen63
@bluenotgreen63 2 года назад
Great video. Thank you.
@cithamao7181
@cithamao7181 3 года назад
Great stuff man!
@trevordevault5737
@trevordevault5737 3 года назад
I am glad I have scupper holes almost directly in the middle of my yak. Made my own kayak scupper hole cart and I don’t think I have to pick up even 10 lbs of weight. Good video!
@BassManStrikes
@BassManStrikes 2 года назад
LOL no one told you yet that you will destroy your kayak by using a scupper cart???????? Seriously don't do it
@adamwalls8992
@adamwalls8992 2 года назад
Great video...thanks!
@daveshaw1802
@daveshaw1802 2 года назад
Thanks for the great tip
@theodoreolson8529
@theodoreolson8529 2 года назад
Great video for a noob like me. Thanks.
@davidcarpenter5043
@davidcarpenter5043 2 года назад
Good point, needed said!
@mackjenkins7721
@mackjenkins7721 3 года назад
Hey how's it going man. Happy fourth of July to you man I hope you had a good one. Good video man I like how you demonstrate the weight on the scale where you put the kayak cart at. This is very good for new beginner kayaks. Keep up the good work man this is definitely a like 👍. 👍👍👍👍👍👍
@mariannewilliams138
@mariannewilliams138 Год назад
that totally makes sense TY
@TruthSeeeker777
@TruthSeeeker777 Месяц назад
Great tip. Thanks
@janetbaker1945
@janetbaker1945 2 года назад
Does it matter which direction your cart is turned? I just got a Bonnlo and the kickstand always messes people up. Should the kickstand go in front (i.e. the direction you're traveling) or go toward the rear, away from the direction you're going? Also--thank you for teaching me this weight distribution thing! I'm elderly. I used to kayak a lot, then moved to Chicago where that river will kill you--not with white water, with fumes! But now I moved to coastal Texas and got a 50 pound kayak and this is going to make up for my diminution of strength! I can't wait! Thanks for thinking to tell us!
@hugolopez2543
@hugolopez2543 2 года назад
Thank you great video
@CuriousEvenmore
@CuriousEvenmore 2 года назад
Basically find close to center of balance for weight
@maxb1985
@maxb1985 4 месяца назад
The problem is all my beer goes in the front hatch so it's always heavy
@blake5041
@blake5041 2 года назад
Thank you so much for the demo, I appreciate the clarity, seriously. Could you tell me where you got your block and tackle system? i saw you lock it off with ease and I could totally use one of those. Feel free to direct message me. Thanks, Blake.
@tklosterman11
@tklosterman11 Год назад
Show me how you get it back in from the water and out of the water that’s where it’s difficult
@manfredstrappen7491
@manfredstrappen7491 3 года назад
I also found out that throwing the pedal drive in the aft end for carting helps tremendously.
@spiltmilt
@spiltmilt 3 года назад
Yes that would shift the load from your arm to your cart. That's a good tip.
@jessetharp6319
@jessetharp6319 3 года назад
Amazing how many folks don’t understand what center of gravity is lol. Cool vid, well done.
@Sanctified_EDC_Gear
@Sanctified_EDC_Gear 3 года назад
Must be Gen Z ers 🤣😂
@DetroitFishigan
@DetroitFishigan 2 года назад
Thanks for doing this 💯🤝🏼
@coprguy1
@coprguy1 3 года назад
I discovered this by necessity early on but I've always wondered why it's always portrayed incorrectly in kayak and cart advertising photos.
@chriswindom3892
@chriswindom3892 3 года назад
good vid! helpful
@Fotozz
@Fotozz Год назад
So if you have hills you need to pull the kayak up, should you position the weight closer to the front and vice versa?
@hazysativa3045
@hazysativa3045 Год назад
Great tip, but havent you now greatly limited your lifting angle?
@ts0ngk0
@ts0ngk0 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for sharing!
@stephenarmstrong7354
@stephenarmstrong7354 Год назад
What weight would you get if you placesd the Kayak cart at the balance point? Would there be any disadvantages to that?
@CarlosGonzalez-vu1ew
@CarlosGonzalez-vu1ew 2 года назад
Thank you!!!
@DGH420
@DGH420 3 года назад
Black Walnut ... Good video by the way~
@spiltmilt
@spiltmilt 3 года назад
The taxonomist in me is hard to suppress.
@gordonmcds
@gordonmcds 3 года назад
#physics #pendulumaction. Great tutorial! Wish I could do this with my pontoon boat.
@carricos86
@carricos86 2 года назад
I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong but I can never get mine on properly. I always cause an embarrassing scene because it falls off on the side of the road lol
@MarieLHeureux-h1v
@MarieLHeureux-h1v 15 дней назад
Where should I put the kart for a kayak sit in of 8'?
@MysticalDragon73
@MysticalDragon73 Год назад
The only kayak cart to use is the wilderness systems cart. It's got a 500 lb rating and works on all boats. Yes it's expensive but it's worth it. Under so circumstances should anyone use one's that go into the scupper holes, even if they are put out by a boat manufacturer. They stress the weakest part of the boat, especially when going over uneventful terrain.
@Tacoman1967
@Tacoman1967 2 года назад
Let's all go back to Physics class. The fulcrum and lever principle.
@ebear4015
@ebear4015 2 года назад
Would think this is basic physics, but it wasn't until I saw our neighbor walk a canoe with the wheels in the back. Once I helped him maneuver the wheels over the center he was like "oh man this is fantastic".
@nhansen197
@nhansen197 10 дней назад
It's all in where the centre of gravity is. People need to be mindful of inclines too.
@BradinManheim
@BradinManheim Месяц назад
Simple high school physics of the see saw.
@drtoddsullivan
@drtoddsullivan 3 года назад
Great video showing the pressure difference. I have the wilderness cart for my AP 120. The most difficult part is lifting up the rear of the kayak up high enough to get the cart in the middle. This is especially difficult if your kayak is loaded up with gear and your kayak is in the water. Any tips or suggestions?
@spiltmilt
@spiltmilt 3 года назад
I will slide the cart up underneath the kayak while its in the water. This works really well at boat ramps.
@drtoddsullivan
@drtoddsullivan 3 года назад
@@spiltmilt thanks for the tip I will try that next time. I assume you strap the cart to kayak while in the water to keep in the correct position.
@Sanctified_EDC_Gear
@Sanctified_EDC_Gear 3 года назад
Buy a lighter Kayak 🤣😂 the AP is Heavy Heffer
@ytwyrm
@ytwyrm 2 года назад
I have an Old Town PDL 106 and the Wilderness cart. I am still struggling with getting the thing out of the water. Launching it is easy-peasy. Recovering, not so much. I hate blocking the boat ramp as well, especially on busy days! Did you ever get a technique down when taking your kayak out of the water? Getting the cart underneath is usually easy enough but if you don't lock it down it will slide off every damned time.
@richardsprojects
@richardsprojects Год назад
The only reason to put the cart right at the stern is when going over rough undulating ground
@ShenpaiWasTaken
@ShenpaiWasTaken 3 года назад
Looks like amazon is out of the Wilderness Systems cart with flat free wheels. It looks like they still have the version with Inflatable Beach Wheels (if you also want to link that in your description). Do you know if there is a substantial downside to using the beach wheels on not the beach? I assume the main points are a lower weight limit and possibly popping the tires. Thanks again!
@spiltmilt
@spiltmilt 3 года назад
The beach wheels have lesser clearance between the kayak and the cart as well.
@cr8244
@cr8244 Год назад
Brilliant!
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