You Can't Beat the Taste of Real Beef 

“Do you remember this?” “Nah, but fuck him anyway” 😂 Love the energy

Can't forget Obama vs Jiyuna in Fighterz.

Aris' entire bit of saying "Zazmasol" instead of "Zasalamel" came from a beef some guy had trying to money match one of his friends at a SC3 tournament. Beef sets don't have to be these epic moments in FGC history. They can just be a good laugh with your friends. There's real value in that.

Jiyuna vs Twitter heckler ft5 in Granblue was epic tho...and then with the Lumina spanking.

Speaking of online beef not really working, it just reminds me of this guy in a server I was in who would just try and start beef constantly. In channels and stuff he would say wildly controversial stuff, comment on people posting replays saying they sucked and would post his replays as "proof", constantly ask for money matches in any game. It wasn't a rivalry, it was fuckin annoying lol His reasoning was that he wants the FGC to stop being "soft" and go back to the SF4 days when there was "constant beef and storylines." His first game? SFV in 2019. Whenever we would play in VC? Dead silent, not a single word of trash talk uttered from him.

The kbrad vs Wolfkrone rivalry lives rent free in my head forever.

Viscant vs LowTierGod. COME ON!

Obama in his "twitter discourse" forbiden arts era. Godspeed. (I'm enjoying what you have to say btw)

my fav "beef" set in recent memory was a project M local hosting a crew battle to finally decide if I-HOP or Denny's was better, they even had custom skins for the team to represent theirs restaurant of choice.😂😂

RealLaw vs Pokchop was imo the greatest beef of all time just because of the sheer cartoon shenanigans from tag2 to vanilla 7 ....*chefs kiss*

BushinStyle vs Marq Teddy in sf4 was one of the funniest beef sets I've seen

@6:00　お洒落プレイヤーじゃない 　Give them an award for Best Dressed Rivalry

Glad real law v. Pokchop got a mention at the end

sanford vs aquasilk and then the pr rog call out and then the justin wong call out at nec 👍👍and a key part of that was lee chung and arturo on commentary (whatever people think of the latter). like... there's all different ingredients that can go into the secret sauce, but when it's right... 👌obviously rog, sanford, and jwonggg were high level sf4 players, so it maybe doesn't apply. and to be respectful of aquasilk, he was certainly a better player than i'll ever be. so, regardless, imo, it's still a good example of a magic moment. people who aren't moved by that kind of stuff, like that's fine for them if they enjoy that super serious side of things, but i can't relate at all. i really enjoy the magic of those sincere hearts-on-the-sleeve grudge matches. skill doesn't necessarily matter imo, emotion matters, and emotion makes memories.

the people going to the same highschool beef happened in league as well, a pro player that went to the same school as faker and started playing league the same year (but never won anything) made it to finals against him. Riot really sold it with the little movie they prepared for the finals.

Fchamp vs KBR in UMVC3 is always gonna be a favorite beef set of mine, especially if you include the actual bracket match the next day lol. Although I'm kind of glad beef sets like that arent that common. I feel like in order to have a beef like that you need a "heel" as one of the two parties involved. One of them is going to be a lil shithead instigator. At the highest level it can be funny and entertaining, but if some dude was at my locals acting like Fchamp I'd think they were corny and a manchild

4:21 literally sonic sol every time someone disagrees with him lmao

Nah bruh Beef sets are fun as hell to watch. Wolfkrone vs K-Brad at Frosty is still something I revisit and watch. Even your DBFZ set against Jiyuna lives rent-free.

Can't beat that Wagyu A4, mate.

M. Obama, you are a real one. You got some real shit to say, and you present yourself well

The moment I turned the video on and we got to talking about lower than absolute top tier sets, I immediately said Real Law PokChop because that spans a couple titles at least and is easily one of the most fun to watch beef sets to date. Great video and glad to see more long form content on tekken. I wish we could do a podcast episode together

Mike Ross vs FC Jago was the first rivalry I watched and it's what first exposed me to FGC culture.

RIP Vs Ryan Heart. They started talkin smack in the commentators table about thier own tourney results. RIP tries to trash talk saying Ryan ran to the 2d games casue he couldn't handle tekken, Ryan Heart absolutely wrecked him with saying the classic "I've won more tournaments than you've ever entered!". Ft10 happens, Ryan with Kaz. RIP with Law. Ryan heart takes it 10-3. Establishing his dominance. Great build up and great set.

My name is Inigo Montoya! You bodied my father in a FT5! Prepare to get smoked!

Ogawa vs. Machabo and Luffy vs. Santarou are two of my favorites for the storyline alone

I think of it like real fighters: We can see the best of the best duke it out for supremacy, and that is definitely entertaining, but there is hype when there's actual drama between competitors. On the MMA side, I recall Jorge Masvidal and Colby Covington being a major one that got people hyped to watch due to the drama alone, despite both fighters not being a champion. LTG vs Viscant is an FGC one. Hell, a decent one from pro wrestling was Kenny Omega vs. Austin Creed, who faced off in SF5.

lil bussy man versus the world, to quote En Sabah Nur/Apocalypse: "I am the rock of the eternal shore. Crash against me and be BROKEN!"

13:45 Not even gonna lie, I was gonna respond exactly with this rivalry. Glad I finished the video before posting it. LOL Pokchop Vs Real Law was legendary!

There was a match either one of the combo breaker or ufgt in umvc between unknown and another guy. I remember they money matched earlier in the tournament and it was pretty testy, and then they actually made it to each other in the bracket in the main tournament and they almost came to blows.

I think smash melee has really good examples of beef sets done right. Not so much now, but because melee was so grassroots it had to make all its own storylines and narratives. There are many examples of legendary beef sets that people talk about to this day.

I just want to see the future beefs that involve stuff outside of the FGC. I want to see two young dude beef over which Kpop band is better and it becoming a blood rivalry. I want to watch them kids fights.

Forbidden alchemy the number 1 killer among the FGC.

BEEF: its whats for dinner

Lmao when you were asking what sets do you guys think were memorable i thought of Porkchop vs Real Law then you remembered it.

Some of my favorite beef sets in recent memory revolve around Punk looool. Punk vs EU in sfv. It peaked at red bull kumite when he played crimson for the 3rd(?) time with it all on the line. Punk vs hotashi after a can opener iirc. That shit was spontaneous but very intense at the same time. Both of those were top level sets tho across two different games (sfv and strive) so i will offer another punk set in another game thats a little lower level. The Punk vs Koustics saga in dbfz loool. I dont even remember how it started at this point but they played SEVERAL mms for some real money. I think theres still a good amount of "beef" sets popping up if you know where to look or who to follow. I just think people arent actually tapped in like that, or they want to see it all the time and i dont think thats healthy or realistic.

Sonic vs Woka was so random And we all knew they weren't even close to the same level It was interesting at first but it kinda just fizzled out for me

redblade vs clearlamp in uni was a great rivalry, it was always dope to watch

Did majin Obama just make two videos about Twitter 'discourse' in a row? How strange.

Loved this take.

dunno if it counts as Not Top Tier Play but Kbrad vs Wolfkrone is something I think about at least once a month

Majin Obama, This is fantastic! I subscribed because I love it!

leffen vs chillindude829 it HAS TO BE SAID

The REAL Beef is when its well done

My takeaway from this is that Kendrick and Drake need to run a Ft5 in Def Jam: Fight for New York

There's some GG bias, but Ogawa vs Machabo is also a clasic. A story that was frame as someone who plays the game out of love vs someone who found no happiness. Idk the full history if Machabo outside of his GG doc. It does suck that a player that's regarded as one of the best in their game doesn't enjoy it anymore. Regardless of him getting ins as an esports player

Leffen v Chillindude in Melee is still hysterical

Of course I’m not advocating for people to just start fighting each other or hating everybody for no reason, but I don’t understand why the fgc is in a friendship era. I’ve gotten so much shit for not automatically being cool with everybody that ever played tekken, like I’ve never talked to this dude from Texas why am I supposed to fuck with him? Cuz he played in a couple online tournaments? It’s really not that deep, but I feel like the pandemic really damaged the fgc badly. The divide between the competitive and casual scene is ever growing and once we start looking at pro players like celebrities instead of competition, it’s a wrap for the fgc

I think it was called Barfights where Cross Counter tried to manufacture this artificially and it just didn't work. I don't think the beef set has to be high level, but I think the beef has to at least be real and more often than not the level of play has to be good. Like Pokchop vs RealLaw in Tekken wasn't high level but it was exceptionally entertaining because Pokchop is sincerely antagonizing RealLaw and RealLaw is sincerely bothered by it. I couldn't watch a ton of sets like that though. FChamp was so disrespectful to KBR that it made you want to see him lose, Punk and Xiaohai in SFL recently had a sincere shit talk moment and it was great. But when it's blatantly obvious that it's *trying* to be entertaining, it just comes off corny.

I could not tell you the last person who won my most recent local. I could tell you - ten years from now - the result of a money match that arose between two friends of mine over whether Canes was good, and that was like 2018. (Canes won.) (You eat it with the sauce, if you want standalone go to Churches).

had the same discussion on Ernesto's channel. the problem is people are conflating competitive rivalries with what i guess we can call "hood shit"? i dont know anything about tekken but i know all about that pokchop/reallaw set. hysterical, 5 stars, will watch again. but is this the kind of thing we want to promote? is this what we want people to see?

Bruh SF never had money matches that. They trying to ride the Marvel hype. Sanford calling out Justin in 4 was probably the closest thing SF had to that. Clockw0rk vs. Neo, Rayray vs. Fanatiq and Joker vs. Fanatiq is an era we will probably never have back which is sad.

Does anybody remember SherryJenix Vs Bison Girl? The first live streamed tournament I ever watched was Evo 2010 and they had a Super Street Fighter IV Women's Invitational and I believe these 2 were part of it. Recently looked it up online to see if my memory was messing with me, but I saw 4 pictures posted of them "beefing" and it was probably the first time I'd seen this sort of thing. I don't know any of the back story behind it, but I thought it was interesting.

Early-mid melee had actual beef, now the top players besides a few have no personality to warrant a "beef" and/or understandably only focus on the videogame

I don’t pay attention to smash anymore but leffen vs chillindude comes to mind lol

I wanna see the Tekken match with them Japanese people now... Obama got me kinda hyped for it

Sf6 is a bit too "esportsy" for my taste, Tekken is kinda too but it still retains a ton of shittalking, cross region rivalries and beefs, i find Tekken is still kinda there with that feel, even if its not top players, lot of beef matches are super fun

Lovin' these twitter vids

Dinosaur george vs tommy gunz

I thought you were gonna talk about impossible meat 😢

smash community desperately needs to see this video

Beef sets are good because it creates sub hierarchies, you got to separate trash from the cuisine.

beef sets are best if theirs some good and or pety as beef. fuck if they mlg. run that money

its high level but itazan/nemo is cool.

yo yall cooked with this title

kbrad wolfkrone is all i think of

God I miss real beef shit. Regional shit. People bring up WWE but I see it more in a sports context. There are teams right now that will have fans throwing hands.

Mimi vs yuyu

This sort of thing has always been cringy and has no place in a competitive space. These people need to decide whether they want to be professionals or kids playing on the couch. Combining them is just hard to watch. If you're an adult who still watches pro wrestling, sure - you do you. But I don't need any of that in any other "sport".

isdd vs jimmy

Bringing wrestling into this that's scripted, most of the time that beef ain't real and most of the time that shit don't hit. FGC is real people competing together, if you're the heel that just means you're being annoying to a regular person and not someone who's "in on it for the audience"

I think you like twitter lol

Maaaaan my inner hater wants to reach the very top of play to have juicy beef like this. I just wanna start some shit