I grew up nearby. It is nothing new. I can remember back in the 1970s, the L&N crews would stop the train in the street to run in to get coffee or lunch.
I-71 has some construction that is backing things up and the semi's are taking roads they shouldn't. There really isn't much chaos...but the lawn chair is nice idea.
You have no idea how many times I've wanted to ask a truck driver that seems to be clueless. " Hey I'll drive it for you" especially when backing into a dock door with plenty of room and lines literally on the ground to put their tires. And yes I understand many are training which is why theirs two but we have a schedule to keep train somewhere less time constrained please.
@jordanalexander615 retired due to heart issues after 40 years driving and unfortunately a lot of the old timers started pulling the plug with a lot if the Obama era bullshyte making driving more of a PITA. This means a lot of the newer guys are nothing but steering wheel holders and even the current administration is weakening the standards and requirements a lot of us older guys had to meet to get on the road.
@@garysprandel1817 Im not even a truck driver. But I have had to back several trucks in for people because they basically said they couldn't do it. And all I did was use the mirrors and look out the window. It wasn't anything impressive at all and shouldn't have been an issue. I just dot understand the training they are supposedly providing for their employees. I will be pulling a smaller trailer here soon for to get medical card or something they said. But should only be about 25,000 lbs. They asked if I'd get my class a but I really don't want to because I know what'll happen. Hauling my own equipment for the job I have to do then bring it back the same day. No thanks
In America you drive a car. Sometimes also in America car has a better chance to drive you. Really wish they'd start pulling licenses based on IQ scores. Or maybe a common sense test.
Actually this time the engineer had a clear sight line to the stalled semi fouling the right of way straight ahead 3-4 city blocks longer than the other incident and the cars not double parked but backed up by stalled truck.
@@kennethhanks6712 The train was already stopped for the two minivan/SUV that were blocking the ROW (at 10:45). The semi-truck, at that point, did not even start turning at the intersection. Once these two vehicles clearer the tracks, the train moved and stopped again once the semi was stuck trying to turn at the intersection.
@Canuck1000 It would help to see earlier in the sequence. The train was actually still creeping forward until 12:02. The vehicles on right, which were an immediate blocking issue, seemed to be showing signs of attempting to move as you would expect in roadway rather than unattended, and did clear with the train. The semi farther ahead was clearly visible also fouling right of way even before he started to turn and the truck issues ultimately caused train to stop.
I did notice that, but DID you notice that the previous train stopped within 100 ft? The distance between when the pickup truck became visible to the train engineer (direct line of sight) and when the train hit the vehicle was approximately 700 ft. Let's assume the train was traveling at 10 mph, the speed limit for trains in La Grange, Ky or 14.67 ft/sec. This gives the engineer 47.7 seconds to stop before hitting the vehicle. If the train was able to stop within 100 ft (with the emergency break), the engineer needed 13.5 seconds to stop the train (from 14.67 ft/sec to 0 ft/sec or a deceleration rate of -1.08 ft/sec^2 -> 0.033g); hence, ample time to make the decision to stop. And, this is even lower than the normal deceleration rate of 0.1g for trains (R.0816-Railway braking). Even if we assume the train stopped within 75 ft (a greater deceleration), the deceleration rate is still lower than 0.1g.
@@kennethhanks6712 I am talking about the event at 10:45. Yes, the train was indeed moving something like 0.1 mph, but was moving this way because of the three vehicles (there were 3, not 2 - my mistake). Given what I discussed a few minutes ago, it could have stopped within 5 ft. I am certain the engineer would not have rammed the three vehicles blocking the ROW, as he or she did not ram the semi nor the vehicles in the left lane.
1:07 Nice to see the MSTS Dash 9 again. Fun fact, 2081, a GP38, has gone past the Skykomish Cam before. You probably won’t see her in other camera since 2081 is one of 4 units designed with extended range dynamic brakes; intended to be used to take airplane parts from Puget sound up the hill to the Boeing plant in Everett, Washington. That hill is the steepest operating rail grade in the US at 5.7%
hats off to the woman who took charge! She helped by signalling the cars to go around the stuck transport-truck, so that the driver could at least back up and then go straight ahead. Quite the dilemma/herself into trying to make that turn on such a tight corner! Hopefully this has been a lesson learned!
Not to mention, the first car lined up behind him kept creeping up everytime he tried to turn back. Some people just dont understand. They dont turn on a dime, or stop on a dime. 35 yrs exp.
One would surmise that he would have just made the turn, and everyone would be on their merry way. And since everyone (except the Peterbilt) was fully aware of the freight train behind them, there was some semblance of urgency. And he could have made that on the first shot, eight pull ups notwithstanding.
@@jaysmith1408 He didn't make the turn because the gate was down. He had lots of room... but the gate. When the train stopped the gate did go back up. He could have made it then
@@eieio1943 Yeah, can't see any on the clip...but your right. I think I would have taken out the gate in the first place to get out of the way. but who knows what I'd really do in the situation..
I watched a video of classic rail traffic in Chicago and lamented to myself that there was a lacking of variety in modern rail transport. I am pleased to admit I was wrong while watching this veritable smorgasbord of locomotives, freight and passenger services. Very enjoyable.
0:12 8-unit light power move 0:50 NS 4000 and CSX 9032 on UP tracks 0:59 BNSF 4723 leading. I also noticed its nose lettering is smaller 1:25 construction barges 2:07 Loram Grinder tanker is going to Brazil 2:23 CN 8952 in GT blue leading 2:56 AC6000CW 6965 and SD70M 4553 with a 10-car OCS. I wonder what their plans are for E9s 949 and 951? 3:10 CSX 9969 3:53 Beech Grove business car on the Southwest chief 4:24 some large equipment probably for a power plant 5:40 Wisconsin Central hoppers 6:46 KCS dash 9 with engine room doors left open 6:55 Amtrak 642 8:00 N&W 475 9:24 what an unusual RSSX unit! Anybody know more about it? 9:37 Amtrak 203, Metrolink cars, and a private car on the Southwest Chief 10:48 the truck that made the thumbnail. They should probably prohibit large trucks like that from driving on this street 13:48 RJ corman SW1500 15:10 NS 8100 leading 15:16 SP gray as mid-train DPU 15:46 back-to-back ballast wheel clips 16:25 NS green Georgia SD unit with slug 16:35 NS towing Amtrak 16:45 ALC42s 322 and 314 and P42 190 on the Coast Starlight 17:40 611 with water car and caboose, probably for people to drive or cab ride 611
As a trucker, for 47 years, coming into a place you've never been is stressful enough. They way he was on the brakes, he likely discharged the system and needed to recharge. I can take a couple of minutes... I hope he found his way out of that area..
@@canadiantimberwolf1 With many wonder what was going on in the trucker's mind when not only holding up cars but also a CSX freight train at a street running section in the town of LaGrange.
I assume they could have made the turn if the RR crossing bar had not been down. Then the cars behind the truck just kept it nice and tight so he couldn't back up.
That's the intersection of two main roads. Any other way of avoiding the intersection is actually worse to negotiate a large truck through. Under normal conditions, a truck can make the turn easily, but the people driving cars don't know how to drive and tailgate trucks, and the signals and gates are not ideally timed for trucks negotiating a turn.
Hello from the UK. If you drive a car or truck badly in that certain street in La Grange, then you will be watched live across the world and viewed again by hundreds of thousands of people who will watch the recording on the grab bag! That must surely take a driver's embarrassment to a whole new level!
Had to see La Grange for myself and drove right down the center of that street this past Saturday on my way between Cincinnati and Memphis. Traffic was bad enough without a train. I kept looking in the mirror as I sat stuck in traffic in the middle of the street with no quick exit opportunity. I couldn’t imagine trying to navigate through the area with both traffic AND a train.
That Loram tank car was probably saying "Step on it driver the other 11 cars I was traveling with are two days ahead of me. Four. Wisconsin Central roofing granule covered hoppers checking out real estate. CSX train at LaGrange luckily had three empty scrap Hoppers behind it to pick up the carnage
@@charlescoghlan2855 Yeah the gates were down when it attempted to turn. Had it continue to turn, it could have broken the gate off and do some damage on the stopped traffic at the intersection.
I've played train world 2 along and now I've been playing train Sim world 3 for awhile now... whenever i see California in one of these videos I'm always like "hey that looks familiar"
I don’t see the trucker as having done anything wrong. Looks he just couldn’t swing wide enough to clear the barrier that was down across the other lane.
@@highline64 good point, for all we know there was a stalled car on that street or a ROAD CLOSED barrier. even if there wasn't, I hate that nobody had compassion for people making mistakes. Every trucker with 40 yrs experience was once a trucker with 3 months' experience. sheesh.
And quick thinking is must. Gotta learn fast or you can get someone or yourself killed . If this would have been anywhere else it would have ended badly and avoidable by making quick decision and driving straight. Very lucky this wasn't a fast freight somewheres else. We've all seen those wrecks. You can have compassion but also understand it's a bad choice and should never be made again.
When I was a kid I love the Santa Fe warbonnet paint scheme as well as the Great Northern paint scheme and I hated Burlington Northern for getting rid of it and going solid green. Who would think that a quarter of the way through the 21st century the Santa Fe warbonnet is still around and now the Great Northern beautiful paint scheme has been resurrected.
What delivery did that trucker in La Grange have to make that warranted that big a rig on that tight a street grid with an active track running down it?
@@jkminnich I just did a street view tour of the area and did not see any NO TRUCKS signs anyplace near East or West Main St. The turn from Main onto KY 53 is not difficult except for the overhanging crossing gate that was down. This would have been a normal turn for the trucker if not for the gate. The problems were compounded by the morons in the cars coming right up behind the trailer and then they all kept coming instead of hanging back to give the driver some room to get out of the situation. Also the engineer could have held back and waited a bit so the gates would go up and the trucker could have completed the intended turn. It's not like that was a big train. Courtesy can go both ways and I have been in situations on both sides of the coin (FRA 240 Certified Engineer and CDL-A Licensed driver) Maybe just everyone slow down a bit. Haste makes waste !
What difference would it make if you were behind that truck? It might make some people act even more irrationally because it will give them instant anxiety. The best rule change should be that all trains need to be slow enough to stop within a couple car-lengths. They have a speed restriction now but stopping distance depends on speed and weight of train.
At 6:47, I couldn't help but wonder if somebody had nothing but beans for lunch...And what the heck was all of that equipment at 4:37 in Hesperia? Also, note to self: stay off Main Street in La Grange. Another great one!!
RSSX 3429 Built March of 1955 as SP 5621 EMD GP9 These are LEAF Genset eco units. I got a rare chance to get a cab ride in a Rail Switching Services GP9 while they switched the Dupont Chemours chemical plant in Washington, WV about 6 years ago or so. Dupont kicked CSX off their property for their extremely poor performance and they contracted their in-plant switching to Rail Switching Services. CSX still sets out cars out and picks them up but they don't do anymore in plant switching anymore.
I think the criticism of the Lagrange trucker is unfair. I think it was bad timing with the train coming, the gates and who k owns what on that cross street.
Did anyone else notice that the Coast Starlight consist at 16:48 was reversed (coaches after the baggage car, then sightseer lounge, diner, sleepers on the rear)? Or has it been running that way lately and I just never noticed?
I guess they don't use boxcars at the ends of CWR trains anymore. Wait until they have a rail get lose in transit. Then they'll remember why we always but boxcars at either end of a loaded rail train.
In regard to the trucker, it looks like they might have misjudged the room they had to make the turn. Had the RR crossing gate not been down, they more than likely wouldn't have had to find an alternate route. Now had they not backed out, then the trucker could have continued the turn after the train had stopped and the gates went up. Would it be an inconvenience? Yes. Would it have injured anybody? No.
The steam loco firemen do not seem to get the fuel supply just right. A lot is being shot straight out the chimney. Can look good on a heavy load but a waste of fuel light engine.
There are several companies in the Midwest and northeast that build and refurbish passenger railcars. They're often shipped to/from their home roads via Amtrak. One example is Talgo in Milwaukee.
@@ShawnCalay-lr5kh maybe since that's not a dead end road however I live on a dead end road with no access to Walmart on the other street & I've seen a lot of semi's go down my street only to have to back up all the way taking out other vehicles & 📬 on the way.
