As others pointed out, inclusion of cards that don't synergize with the commanders' abilities isn't necesarilly a mistake. I have Morbid Opportunist in my Teysa Karlov deck. Not because I think Teysa doubles his triggered ability, but because the ability is awesome on its own.
I was actually going to use the Tesa Karlov ability to do the same thing, and realized it a few days ago. Idk if you realize it, but your videos really help, and I think I have an amazing understanding of the game now, and you’ve contributed a ton to that!
I think the reason people are playing drivnod in kethek decks is because they have lots of creatures with dies triggers, although I do agree with you that plenty of people probably think it works with their commander
I feel like You should probably explain how cards work when they are not in play a bit more. I've had a hard time explaining that some abilities are taken into effect and consideration if the cards say so in the text. For example, you can use a creature tutor for Grist the hunger tide, because the card specifically say it's a creature as long as its not in the field. Another case for this was for Imperial recruiter, when in a board with more than 2 creatures, isn't allowed to look for Adeline, resplendent cathar, because her power is always equivalent to the number of creatures you control, regardless of where she is, because her power is a * symbol This is however not taken into consideration if the creature has a similar ability WITHOUT the star symbol in its power and toughness text, such as Umbris, Fear Manifest. If you Ruthless Technomancer it while its on the board, it'll give you a gajillion treasure. But if you want to recur it from the graveyard, you'll only need to sac 1 artifact because its just 1 power for some reason!!!
@@ridwana4037 Yup. It's the reason why a card like Animate Dead is worded so oddly, otherwise it would fall off as soon as the creature hits the field.
Definitely good to cover it in case players *aren't* aware of the interaction, but tbh that Slicer/Reaver Cleaver combination has me wanting to run it in a group slug playstyle 👀
the reaver cleaver have one nice thing going for it, usually, i guess people would want to throw slicer on a target than can block and kill it, but with the equipment, they might want to attack where it pass...
Regarding the Iroas question, the only card that I'm aware of that doesn't follow these rules is Grist, The Hunger Tide. Can't be hit by Negate, triggers creature casting effects, and can be your commander
I have a Killian brawl deck on MTGA, and about Single Combat and Divine Reckoning being picked in Killian lists, it's for those that are more focused on the aura theme, since Killian has Menace, it's a free attack on anyone. I have cards like Single Combat and The Eternal Wanderer in my Killian deck not for cost reduction, but for clearing the board for a good attack.
Your explanation for why Drivnod not work with Kethek is kinda misleading, the reason Drivnod doesn't work is because the "trigger" is your end step beginning, not creatures dying, nor creatures sacrificed. To see what triggers the effect, we see what happens for the condition after the word "When", "Whenever" or "at" and Drivnod wants When/Whenever [creature] sent from field to GY/dies
@@bedwarssweat6205 yeah. Exactly. That's why I commented. The conversation shouldn't even go there at all saying things like "sacrifice to exile is still sacrifice but not die" and all that. The conversation should stop at what is written after the trigger indicator ("When", "Whenever" or "at") for Drivnod to see
@@bedwarssweat6205The reason the ability is put on stack is that the beginning of your end step occured. Then when it starts resolving you may sacrifice a creature which may or may not mean it's put into your graveyard but even if it does end up in your yard, Drivnod's ability won't trigger because it only cares about abilities whose trigger (i.e. reason they're put onto stack) is a creature dying. As I said, that's not the case with Kenthek. The only way Kenthek somewhat interacts with Drivnod is that you can use Kenthek's ability to get some creature to die (i.e. you use him as a sac outlet) AND there's some creature whose ability triggers upon a creature dying (such as Blood Artist). Then Drivnod makes that ability trigger one more time (i.e. you get two pings from Blood Artist from only one creature dying).
Wishclaw Talisman and Mishra, Eminent One. You can not sacrifice a creature that is not under you control. Moreover that is an ability of Mishra himself not a property on the token "Sacrifice this as the end of turn" . You are handing them a 4/4 wishclaw talisman that will last on the board. Maybe interesting in politics or if you know you can close the game before they untap but beyond that its not used in the way people think it is - Where they tutor something and hand them a dead creature at the end of turn.
The thing that muddies the waters with the "Enchantment Creature - God"s is that some cards have the ability "This spell cannot be countered" - which obviously does work while the card is on the stack. Great video as always - I love this series and usually learn something from it.
divine reckoning and single combat in killian i can understand. Both of those are board wipes that leave your commander alone, then since he has menace he will immediatly hit their face
Im going to make the assumption that Reaver Cleaver is those Slicer decks because it's such a strong card that some people will auto include it in any deck with red.
With slicer it is always mana positive to attack out then use some of the treasures to pay its unequip cost. Also, most decks also run magnetic theft for that specific reason.
I think drivnod is in Kinzu just to get value off of creatures' dies triggers. Since they do still hit the graveyard before being exiled, and if you're playing Kinzu, you likely have plenty of dies/etb triggers you want to take advantage of. I dont think its there to take advantage of kinzus ability herself
I just recently built a Myrkul, Lord of Bones deck and a LOT of those also contain Drivnod. Of course he also won't work with Myrkuls ability to exile a dying creature from the graveyard and double the enchantment copies you get. I guess it will still double up Blood Artist / Zulaport / etc. triggers, but I'm not sure that's worth including him in the deck, so I will try out other cards in that slot.
Yeah, it may just be they are running it as an Aristocrats deck and then it's a pretty powerful doubler that sticks around as an enchantment next to your enchantment zulaport cutthroat and Nadier's... whatever the one elf I'm thinking is called.
@@oals29 matt tabak, who works at WOTC, answered someones tweet inquiring about this exact interaction. His response was that you actually would end up with a clue a treasure and a *regular* food. But every player is gonna *want to* make a clue copy of the creature, a treasure copy of the creature, and a food copy of the creature and its gonna cause lots of confusion.
i think the most insane one was when i was playing brawl on arena and this muldrotha deck played only instants and sorceries (never found out what the deck has cuz he lost on turn 9)
Your god interaction maded me wonders if vehicules are considered creature if they are in your hand/librairy/graveyard. From what you said, they should be creature until they hit the field
Here's a rules question for you. How does Mishra Eminent One interact with Living Weapon cards such as Kaldra Compleat. If you make a 4/4 copy of Kaldra, does it still get attached to a germ token? Then is it a vanilla 4/4 since it's a creature? Is it a germ token with the normal buffs +5/+5 and so on?
A creature cannot be attached to a creature, so it will just be a 4/4 with haste like Mishra says. That's specifically why reconfigure is it's own keyword, because it needs to lose the creature type.
Speaking of Quintorius Loremaster, I originally thought that any spell exiled with quintorius could be cast by them, so equipping it with Kaldra complete would give it the text "whenever this creature deals combat damage to a creature, exile that creature" and thus let it exile (and eventually cast) opponents creatures. Unfortunately on gatherer it says you can only cast spells exiled with the first part of their text. Could you explain why this is? And what other similar interactions we might be getting wrong because of it?
The reason why only cards exiled with the second ability can be chosen by the third ability is, that those two abilities are considered 'linked abilities' (as are defined in the comprehensive rules under 607). They can be recognized by the latter ability only working on something that is made possible by the former. In this case, the exiling. Quintorius all by himself could NOT exile other cards without his second ability and the third ability only works on carrds that where specifically exiled by Quintorius. At least, that's my understanding of the rule, but I'm no expert.
Yep, 607.2a specifically: If an object has an activated or triggered ability printed on it that instructs a player to exile one or more cards and an ability printed on it that refers either to “the exiled cards” or to cards “exiled with [this object],” these abilities are linked. The second ability refers only to cards in the exile zone that were put there as a result of an instruction to exile them in the first ability.
Since quintoriou’s ability doesnt have a “if you do” clause, do you get a 3/2 if you dont have targets to exile? Like if your GY only has lands in it or something similar?
If a triggered ability requires a target, you need to choose a valid target when the ability triggers and goes on the stack. If you can't, the trigger is removed from the stack and so it never resolves. No target, no token.
No they don't. Here's JudgingFTW talking about it: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-syBAWlScd6Q.html. Note that ETB replacement effects and triggered abilities act different since the latter uses the devotion including the permenant that ETBd.
It not anymore but theres definitely one that fits for this series there was a gameplay of SCG commander and one just did the average deck of Ob Nixilis, Captive Kingpin but there was a "What the heck?!" moment with one of the cards in the and that was Tor waulki the Younger. even i knew that doesn't work it all it completely turns off ob nixilis because it saids "it deals that much damage plus 1 to that permanent or player instead" thats ruins the deck completely nixilis states he's looking for exactly 1 damage for his ability to trigger and with tor waulki it makes the damage 2 instead of 1
@@shadowfate05 yes it only triggers once but your doubling the effect of that one trigger. There are cards that only trigger once that and teysa dose double them
It targets a creature card, not a creature. It's weird but theres a difference. Think of a creature card as a spell that creates a creature but the spell itself is not a creature.
