One point you missed: if you get obviously wrong readings on the right setting, try a few more wraps around the plug wire. Though almost all modern scoots should work with 3 or 4, the older point magneto vespas and similar spark voltage small engines could need as many as 8. Those inductive tachs are awesome, very good idea! You are absolutely correct, the very first step to ANY hop up is actually being able to accurately quantify results, and you NEED a tach for that
want to pull extra hp's to your scooter's engine? 1. change your stock pulleys to performance pulleys 2. standard clutch, center springs and clutch springs replaced to aftermarket parts 3. get a bigger carb. 4. bore up 5. get a sport exhaust
I would have to disagree. I would always first extract the intended amount of horsepower desired from the engine first before tuning the tranmission to maximize the engine's mechanical advantage on the road (ie. variators and clutch). Time would be wasted determining the perfect weight combo at, for example, 4hp only to modify your engine to produce 7hp as you would have to retune the transmission all over again. Hope that helps!
@@WorldwidetechnologiesAu "A turbo would make whatever you put it on faster" - Epic fail quote of the century. Please prove that to me and I'll even pay for your turbo if you can make it work on my Tesla.
This is a pretty poor video description. It's giving a false expectations of actually making the scooter faster. Why there is a need for knowing your RPM on a twist and go scooter I'm not quite sure.
Defaultdann123 poor description or poor title? Because the description clearly explains why you need a tach and further discussed in the comments section with others. A tach is the most accurate tool apart from an actual dyno to let you know if you increased engine horsepower, whether you need heavier or lighter weights, and give instant feedback to each modification you made to the bike.
FIFTYmil he meant your clickbait title. Missleading title. It's are the definition of clickbait- although you have great content, misleading the viewer isn't honest.
a tach cannot show any increase in horsepower so thats a false statement. and an 8 minute video shoing nothing but a tach install saying this will make you scooter faster is also a false statement.if you want to waste peoples time with fake improvement you should tell people to change their muffler bearings of their headlight fluid. unless you provide other instruction on actually making it faster buying a tach will do nothing to horsepower or making things faster.
actually what i see here is just a ploy to get people to think a tach is going to do something special and you have a link to where they can buy one from you.
4 stroke scooter engines fire the plug on every turn of the crank. Only every other spark is utilized for the combustion process but, because the way the stator works, each time the crank turns, a spark is generated. I believe this is called the "wasted" spark system.
i bought one of these a while back and nvr saw any how-to install vids until now. Thx Pls tell me ur opinion on crankshaft, gearing, camshaft and compression releasing tube upgrades. Wonderful detailed videos !
With any modifications, don't install them all at once because it's almost like diving head first into water before knowing what's underneath. In my opinion for a gy6 they make enough power for most city riding - therefore minor modifications like intake/jetting, variator weights, and clutch springs would make them fun enough for all purposes and intents. Engine modifications should only come after those if you're still not satisfied but it starts getting spendy and begs the question why not invest that money in a bike with a larger engine.
Note this video title clearly indicates it is a episode intro. Proceed to the next episode to learn how to use it to tune your scooter before jumping to conclusions.
@@FarmerFpv Well that explains why some people could never tune their scooter properly. There's over 20 episodes documenting improvements that were significant.
Fiftymil you're just an idiot with a moped, you should see what I'm doing to mine, swapping a engine and transmission in there, guess what, without a tac.
Yes, watch all the episodes starting from episode 0 on my channel. Apart from the exhaust muffler which was a bit spendy, everything else was relatively inexpensive and kept the entire project under $50.
This will not increase power. Get yourself malossi mhr reed valve Carb delorto19 Mallossi multivar 2000 with6.5g Mallossi delta clutch Malossi cluck spring Malossi mhr replica cylinder Stage 6 exhaust Malossi orverange pulleys Malossi mhr crank Skf crank bearings Ngk iridium spark Open side case And after this you should install a tachometer
The video did not once say "installing a tachometer will increase power." Your approach to throwing in a bin of parts at the scooter may work but not to the full potential of each part.
Next episode, " You need this ! (Easy mod for a Hotter Home) If you want a warmer home there is nothing better than installing a Temp on, or installing a "Temperature" Gauge in your home. Watch the next episodes to learn more! Ok, thats enough, next tube vid...
@@FIFTYmil Interesting theory you have "running a home without a thermostat"? Please, oh please show me how fifty mil Guru, However, I don't run a home at all, in whatever context you are defining, homes dont actually run, neither do i run a scooter with a Tacho, when i run i do it on my feet, But thanks for your thoughtfulness and reply.
Please help..🙏My scoot is 2004 Derbi - piaggio 50cc et2 engine, yasuni r, malossi 2000 multivar, polini clutch with green springs, original big clutch spring, I have the white one also that came with the variator kit...17.5 naraku carb...still trying jets at 84 now, pilot is 34. I couldn’t get it over 49 miles an hour. Still with original airbox, even I have the polini open air. Tried rollers from 5g to 7.2. The only difference pretty much is the acceleration, heavier rollers drop mile or two in top speed. Malossi kevlar belt...
I think partially the reason is you have many modifications so it is difficult to understand which one is making the scooter slower and which one is making it faster. The net result is less than optimal. If you have the time, return the scooter to stock and then install each modification one at a time and make sure it makes the scooter faster before adding another.
Hey! Awesome detailed videos. Just wondering if you could help me out quickly. Would I be using the stock settings, which is the setting number 2 correct? I think I had it on the first setting and my RPMS were super low so it screwed with my idle. I have a 2 stroke oil injected.(09'Keeway hurricane, 1e40qmb engine)
FIFTYmil Thanks for the prompt reply! I hope to get this thing back on tomorrow and on the RIGHT setting. 😎 hope you can make some new vids soon. I'm installing my bbk in a couple days so it would be cool to see what you do.
a lot of it was processed in the scooter and how I have time to write something on facebook about all modifications is my address facebook facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003944500682
I've got a yamaha 125cc scooter with the kickstand kill switch & i took the battery out "cold" & put it BACK in the next day...nothing...absolutely nothing happened. no lites,horn or anything. wat went wrong bro.?? S 0.S.
It is nearly impossible to tell unless you put it on a dyno with fixed transmission! but given the increase in displacement is not drastically different I tend to go by the factory numbers (which is 9500rpm i believe for the hiper2 engine)
I put one of these on my scooter and it made it go 75% faster. Not really, you see FIFTYmil, I can talk bollocks like you too. hahaha. Adding a tacho to a vehicle DOES NOT make it go faster. I suppose you believe go faster stripes work too. lol
You see Ian, if you have the tiniest bit of critical thinking skills you would realize the true purpose of installing a tachometer and how it would improve your tuning game. Clearly 674 people did. The episodes after will show you how I achieved it too. Sometimes, not everything is spoon feed to your like your mother did (or still do?). #isupposeitstimetogrowup #isupposenoteveryonelearnsfast #isupposetheresnocurefordumbness
No installing tachometer alone will not change the speed of the scooter at all - it is only a measurement tool. If you follow through the rest of the episodes, you will see a significant increase in acceleartion and top speed.
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-A53w8YzI-vU.html Check out the episodes in my playlist and that might help you extract more horsepower and tune the transmission for better hill climb!
great vids ,, nice scooters,,, how often is it safe to take it over max revs,,, i have a metro,,, with annoying rev limiter that keeps it lower revs than ruckus i think,,,
Thanks Ricardo. It depends on the engine. The particular AF58 engine on the Honda Metro/Ruckus is quite safe to keep the revs below 10,000RPM, despite a restrictor at 8850RPM as it has been proven on the dyno that the Ruckus is capable of making more power beyond the restrictor. The Metro (depending which model) has quite a few restrictions on there. Provided that you tuned the engine well it should perform just as well as the Ruckus engine if not better.
Itsyourboykieth 23 Yes you can install a tach on a 4stroke 115cc. It will not give you more power but it will tell you what you need to modify to get more power. If you want to gain more power check out my other episodes!
+FIFTYmil ohh i thought gave power but i think i'll need it for a rpm my scooter is a stock and i want just want easy mod to make it fast any suggestion?
Itsyourboykieth 23 Quick and easy answer I've had good results getting slightly lighter (0.5-1.5g less) roller weights than the stock ones. Cheap, least invasive and reversible - just install and go!
@@FIFTYmil A larger carburettor can provide more fuel, and it won't you go any faster! You actually stated a fact, One point for you! Wow you're on a roll,, or was i on a troll ? Nevermind..
@@9emelet852 This kid took the bait. This statement made my day "And, if you add a bigger carb to a stock engine it wont make a difference, cuz you have to modify the variator and the clutch. Also with a stock exhaust the gases wont escape the cylinder, and you will just blow spark plugs."
U can mod the gy6 scooter engine easily with increasing air input and matching the amount of air with more fuel(upsize main jet) kinda makes no sense though cos these bikes don't feel stable when riding at higher speeds. Also. MPG reduces massively. Same as sports bike that can do 170mph?!...
@@HEREISMULLEER Have fun while watching other videos on how to tune your scooter that never seems to get faster LOL. I mean, you ended up here for a reason, am I right?
@@FIFTYmil Yep, you are correct , i was searching on "How to make a scooter faster" but it was not correct , was it? Your video shows me how to mount a Tacho, not actually what i was searching for. ??? It seems that everyone here was searching the same thing but their search ended up with "How to mount a tacho" not quite the same outcome ??
@@FIFTYmil Wow another true statement, Point number 2 for you! And yes a dyno does not produce more power.. In case you were juts still thinking about it..
SCAM, only way to boost youre engine is to upgrade youre engine kit(cilinder, piston, segments, upgrade cylinder head only if you have 4T engine in 2T engine you can keep youre cylinder head) EX: when you have 49cc engine, you can buy 80cc engine kit, ENJOY!
Yes, increasing engine displacement is often times the easiest solution for people lacking understanding of how the scooter operates. However, a properly tuned 50cc could easily outrun a poorly tuned 70cc for the same reason above. Therefore I wouldn't necessarily call this documentary and knowledge a scam.
My scooter already had digital gauges for gas, rpm, odometer, speedometer, ect. Very handy to have, but not a tool that makes your scooter faster....I hope that was a misprint or something and that you really don't think that, lol
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Watch the next episode to see how i put it to use extensively, resulting in a scooter that become 100% faster 0-30mph and 40% improvement to top speed.
how this gets over 200k views is a mystery. title needs to be changed to "tachometer install" because this won't change the speed at all. Nothing wrong with having a tach, but having a misleading title is lame.
Taylor Hokanson just pop them off and put super glue or caulking and hurry up and put them back on and adjust them to where you want then let them be don't ride for 12 hrs
I need to know what to add to my 2018 taotao racer50 to make it go faster. I ordered a 100cc bore kit, a 39 mm air filer, a high performance camshaft, roller weights and some valve sets. what else do i need?
This has nothing to do with speed, it has to do with wasting money. There is no mechanical advantage to this, I thought that that was going to be a plug and play reprogramming chip for the governer and a car doesn't even idle at 2000 rpm after its warmed up, a car idles at around 750 to 810 rpm so why would a moped spin that fast.
hell if that engine is revving that high then the transmission is poorly geared and mods should souly be done on the transmission so that the final drive gear matches the rpm of the engine in which case I wouldn't wast money on a box that gives readings when the power to ground distribution is causing the moped to be more inefficient and cause higher emissions and a carbon footprint than V16 Diesel tuned to role coal on a constant. Think about it.
A scooter, much like motorcycles have smaller pistons and generate less power at 2000RPM versus a car's engine. The same could be said that a motorcycle and scooter can spin up to 14,000RPM, why can't a car spin that fast? Your lack of understanding above shows why you can't reap the benefits from installing tachometer into a scooter. I believe no further discussion is necessary at this point whether it helps find more speed or a complete waste of money.
@@elitegamer6582 That is precisely the answer I was waiting for. So why do we need a dyno if it doesn't help you extract more power from an engine? Just tune your engine with your butt dyno mate.
You probably bought the higher model that has exchangeable battery? There will be a back cover that you can twist open with a coin. In that case, wal mart sells the replacement batteries the cheapest!
Oh if it doesn't have a battery cover then you have the same model as me. The battery inside is "technically" replaceable if you cut it open but it will no longer be waterproof and you would have a hard time closing it back up. Did you try to press and hold both buttons to see if you could reset and wake up the tach?
Somebody donated to this garbage? Please explain how a tachometer increases speed. I'd love to hear this. I guess a new speedometer increases gas mileage?
I have a 150cc 07 rocketa. The body panels are kind of wearing out and I was wondering if body panels from a slightly older or newer scooter will work? Mine is the limited edition so it is kind of difficult to find parts for that model.
if u look on the bottom left side of the engine(right below ur variator) it will tell u wht type. U may need to take off ur cvt casing to see the model etched #'s. Normally there are two diff kinds of 150cc engines if Im not mistaken. One is slighter bigger thn the other
Check out my instagram page. I already have more expensive scooters. It only make sense to spend money on both #whatcanIsay #blessed instagram.com/fiddymil/?hl=en
While technically true, 1) sustained high rpm operation is not beneficial for moving parts and 2) due to the way and engine is designed, you would be substituting high engine speed with peak horsepower RPM (unless of course you modify the engine to work at higher RPMs). For a daily commute bike to and from work, it is much more practical, fuel efficient, and reliable to operate the engine at, or slightly below peak horsepower RPM.
Please watch the subsequent episodes on how each modification is used culminating in nearly double the top speed and acceleration. Oh, and it's spelled "banned" not band.
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crazy huh? That's all it take for the tacho pick up wire to detect spark and thereby give you a RPM reading. It works by electrical current travelling axial to the coil and generating a magnetic field in which a seperate current travels to the tach sensors.
More lies , just full of lies how can having a tax make the bike go faster, U said , not going to borer, lier clickbait, if U really think hooking that up will make scooter go faster, then U should not be making videos ,miss leading poeple
Before you go off on your rant and name calling , you do realize this is the introductory episode title name for the entire series documenting how i made my scooter faster right? Each episode involves a change and the subsequent episode shows the result made.The final episode sums up what I have done and displays the improvement in acceleration time and top speed I've achieved. Sorry I can't help people who hope they can solve world peace in just one episode??? #firstworldproblems#spoonfedworld#crytomama#readingcomprehensionfail#cantreadforshits
Lol, now you have installed a digital tachometer and it has not done anything to improve the bike. If you want to know the engine RPM look at the tacho on the dash! What a wasted video.. lol..
Dash does not have a tach. Also note this video title clearly indicates it is a episode intro. Proceed to the next episode to learn how to use it to tune your scooter before jumping to conclusions.
@@FIFTYmil "If you want a faster scooter there is nothing more important than installing a Tach" Clearly stated at the start of the video... End of technical conversation..
@@WorldwidetechnologiesAu Again, jumping to conclusions before even watching the next episode on how to use it effectively..That's equivalent to saying installing a larger engine into the scooter does nothing for you..because you weren't able to comprehend that you needed to install the spark plug to make it work. End of faith in humanity..
@@FIFTYmil No, he meant that your video was a waste of time! Your comment could possibly apply to yourself as your video does waste peoples time, lets face it.. Misleading to state the least.
