A lot of people seem to be commenting about this so I just wanted to clarify... Kinetic primaries will STILL retain their 10% damage advantage but ONLY for red bars and majors, NOT bosses as stated in the weapon tuning changes article: www.bungie.net/7/en/News/article/weapon_tuning_the_final_shape
I think the complaint I have for primary guns and your comment saying you shouldn’t use a pulse on non red bars as that is using the weapon wrong when talking about kinetic tremors. You are wrong especially in end game content when pulse rifles have an anti champion mod available it is a great way to lock a champion down. Your statement nuked your credibility.
Slightly misleading to say 38% Exotics are getting -10% on red bars And legendarys are losing spec mods So no matter how you look at it 38% is not the case *The hot take on tremors not being great feels yucky, tremors is incredible on blast furnace especially with frenzy **ESPECIALLY when tremors gives us large Transcendence energy bcuz kinetics generate more energy Aside from that keep up the good work 👍
FYI, You cannot change the MW on adept crota (or root) weapons, even after triggering the 'crafting' state. Bungie *claims* that you were supposed to be able to do so, but they failed to add in that functionality correctly.
If you still have your original Veles-X roll do NOT dismantle it! The quest reward has handling masterwork and the one you pull from collections does not! Gotta disagree about kinetic tremors to some degree. Proccing tremors on a major or boss is quite useful if it clears the ads around it. Lastly, regarding stasis pulse rifles: Psi Hermetic has the Wild Card origin trait which will destroy headstones created by the gun. Thank you, dear creator.
Hey Llama, just wanted to say you’ve been killing it in content lately. Your videos are well researched, informative, and concise. Your streams have been fun lately too, especially been loving the collabs you’ve been doing. Thanks for the great content and bye for now dear creator.
blast furnace on elites with KT is very good. better than incan/volt cause the explosions deal way much more damage and stuns them. i use KT on yellow bars on higher content like LEGEND campaign and week 4 pantheon. do NOT take his word as be-all end-all, try it out yourselves.
@roryvanberkel4139 I would disagree. For end-game content it is a good for slight damage for aoe incandescent. Reloading also provides a Cure ×2. Keeping yourself alive, dealing dmg and keeping the fight going is just a need. The difference between BxR and Darkest is that heal clip. If the rifle can't get Heal Clip it isn't gonna really needed for that end game.
@@SeizeHerSalad The problem with heal clip is at some point it will got a nerf somewhere and if you play not like madman in high end content you're not in need of that clutch.
@@semsei69people are so crazy about heal clip all of a sudden, it's hilarious. We've been able to complete EVERY endgame content so far without it, and we still can. I'd much rather go for all dmg perks than heal clip, cause the faster you slay enemies the less you need to heal.
I’ve tested all the recoil barrels and mods on the adept Oversoul Edict and I’ve found that a barrel that doesn’t add recoil direction and adept counterbalance is a bit more vertical than arrowhead brake and adept counterbalance. For the regular non adept Oversoul Edict, just a counterbalance mod with no recoil direction barrel is the best you can make it.
I love my demo + voltshot Oversoul Edict with arc hunter. Flow state for lightning fast reloads, combination blow for frequent cursed thrall procs. It's a blast!
Another advantage of the adhoritive pulse rifle, it has nano munitions! Truely a slept on perk that provides a near infinite magazine when near any alies, which happens quite often!
I don't find it worth farming Prophecy for Darkest Before when I can craft Adhortative with the same setup. Feels fantastic, no need to nickel & dime the negligible differences between the frames imo.
Agreed, me and my buddies did 30 runs of prophecy final boss and only one of us got the god roll, crafted an adhorative and have already been loving it. It’ll feel even better next week.
Literally just crafted this two days ago and jeez its my new bread and butter for solar builds aside from Zaouli’s. Definitely more time efficient than chasing RNG in prophecy.
I've been having more fun in Destiny as a whole after applying this philosophy to weapon farming. Why farm a dungeon or raid when the next best thing by a nose is in a ritual playlist? I'll play those harder activities just for fun once in a while and no more fomo.
I think Lightweight Frame Pulses feel the best tbh, Blast Furnace and the 340’s and 540’s are damage powerhouses sure, but most rolls feel really clunky and don’t fit seamlessly into every build. Granted we don’t have a lot of Lightweights at our disposal, but for Stasis and Strand I’d definitely shoot for Stay Frosty or Nightshade. Frosty feels great neutrally due to the Origin Trait bumping up that Stability while going ham with Desperado activated, and Nightshade has peerless accuracy thanks to its own Origin Trait, and 1st column perks like Keep Away and Heating Up that make activating Hatchling with a precision kill easy as hell. I recognize this video is more geared toward ease of acquisition. Frosty and Nightshade are definitely not easy to get, impossible even right now in Frosty’s case, but definitely something to check your vault/dump Witch Engrams for.
With the Artifact Mods they just revealed, Oversoul Edict is going to be even more powerful with "Shield Crush" giving you increased melee regen to more frequently proc Cursed Thrall. Also, Battle Scar is a super easy-to-obtain and near-meta Kinetic Tremors option
I just got my hands on a Darkest Before with Heal Clip/Incandescent and I can't wait to use it in The Final Shape and beyond! I've put a ton of miles on my HC/Incan Heliocentric the last couple months, and I'm really looking foward to having some more range as an option with Darkest Before, as well as Luna's Howl.
Just saw the thumb nail so I have to say I have kept my oversoul edict adept since I got it last year eddy current with volt shot. I cant wait for it to be juiced with TFS.
Disparity’s Hakke origin trait is extremely underrated when combined with stasis. It will 1 shot the crystals without having to run Whisper of Rending.
Quick shout for Phyllotactic Spiral it's a high impact frame arc and can also be crafted with Keep away and Volt shot or Frenzy. It's a solid choice if you dont raid and are looking for a decent arc pulse and haven't got an Oversoul Edict.
Adhorative is also greats 390 rpm that can get heal clip and Incandescent. It is also covered in military camouflage, foliage edition. With the buff to eddy current and the fact you can use getaway artist with an arc grade on prismatic, an Eddy current + Voltshot build for Oversoul Edict demolishes PVE.
Adding a little to the whole Stasis buff, I haven't seen much player talk about the Stasis Bow: Verglas Curve. it being able to create a fan of Stasis Crystals after each each up to 5 is really nice for stasis shard build and would synergize well with Stasis in Final Shape. I have a Warlock build focusing on making as much stasis crystals and freezing enemies as I can. I pair that with an Indebted Kindness that has Deconstruction. That, with it's origin trait: Sundering, causes more damage to those crystals, breaking them without a sweat. Pair THAT with aspects around breaking stasis crystals and it's AoE damage, it's a fun build to test out.
One I think you gotta include in this list is the BXR. Can roll either demolitionist or pugilist in column 3 and incandescent in column 4. It’s a lightweight so it handles really well, and the BXR is unique in that its hip fire is very accurate. The weapon is also fully craftable and drops from Dares of Eternity, which anyone can do (although farming for red border drops would likely be very time consuming). I use it with pugilist and incandescent with my Pyrogale build and it really helps keep my melee ability up
Begging the question: "an argument in which the premises assume the conclusion without supporting it". "My team killed Nezarec with Thunderlord because its the best DPS. Therefore Thunderlord is the best DPS for Nezarec." The phrase you should have been using these past few videos is "This RAISES the question."
loving the content since i found your channel. i'm honestly looking forward to see how good "smite of merain" feels after the buff. the rolls you can get are actually cracked. Stats-for-all or demo with ad junkie, firefly or one-for-all sounds pretty damn good
If you have Stay Frosty from the dawning weapon, it can also roll headstone. Being a lightweight frame makes the gun feel better the shoot. I find lightweight and Rapid fire frames feel better to use to me.
Bungie said in one of the sandbox change tabs that they are removing the 10% advantage of kinetic weapons, I’m unsure if stasis and strand are getting a buff or if kinetic is getting a nerf tho
I’ve been farming prophecy for 10+ hours if I get one with incandescent it’s doesn’t have heal clip and if I get heal clip it doesn’t have incandescent I’m so done
I have Adhortative and farmed Prophecy for a heal clip + incand and let me tell you...without a reload mw or mag it feels awful in comparison. Do not recommend spending 3hrs like me getting one with a 3/5.
Hey Llama spent hours farming prophecy today because of your video yesterday. Unfortunately i didnt get the roll you talked about. Actually the person i was farming with got it on there 2nd try...UGH! I did get a wellspring/incan and i was testing it and i think it could also be very good especially when ad clearing. I got all my abilities, after expending them, within 15 to 20 seconds
Graviton lance gon be the best adclear weapon mark my words. Used it on Golgoroth ads in pantheon week 1 and in 1 burst i got so many kills and medals like void frenzy and everything
I very rarely outside of certain content such as GM’s and Pantheon run a Primary. Double Special still works perfectly fine for me due to how my team plays. Outside of Outbreak Prime I don’t have a single pulse rifle in my vault.. am I cooked chat!
Just wanted to mention - you commented that Blast Furnace has no AOE options besides Kinetic Tremors which isn’t realistic to use on adds, but it has Firefly. Wondering if you forgot or if you just don’t like it.
My favorite oversoul edict adept I've gotten is enlightened action with swash. I figure swash would be a starter option because of the gameplay loop of cursed thrall but I guess voltshot is too good to pass up? I've kept the recommended keep away voltshot adept roll but haven't used it yet so I'll give it a spin. edit: also with prismatic warlock i want to use strand triple charge melee with slide arc aspect and try the newly buffed bastion exotic fusion in combination with swash oversoul.
honestly i dont use pulses for pure ad clearing, ill use forb or smgs for that. Imo pulses and other mid range primaries get used up to stronger orange bars since we still melt em quickly without having to focus too hard on em. Like id gladly take kt on a pulse as it gives a lil bit of utility
May be, but I’m currently still considering to buy or not to buy the Final Shape. I’m a new light and even though I’m 1829 on my Titan , all I’m seeing is ever increasing bullet sponge enemies. My dilemma is, will I actually enjoy the Final Shape considering the above .
Great video Llama! I thought the damage reduction from stasis & strand primary weapons was being removed, or does this change only apply to stasis & strand special primary weapons?
It’s Kinetic weapons that are getting their damage bonus removed only against bosses/Ultra rank targets. Against any other enemy rank, Kinetic weapons retain their damage bonus.
I might be coping as it's the only Adept I have of it but I'm bringing my Oversoul Edict with Demolitionist + Sword Logic and think it's going to absolutely slap. Stab MW so it should help with the recoil kick.
