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Hi there, Liron here!
In today's vid I'll address some questions I recently got regarding wet on dry VS wet on wet.
I'll focus on why I strongly prefer wet on DRY! 🎨
Time Stamps:
00:00 - Introduction - I Prefer Wet on DRY
00:50 - Getting a VIBRANT color
02:25 - Why wet on DRY is usually superior
03:47 - Wetting the paper = more difficult process
04:48 - In defense of wet on wet...
06:47 - How to decide which one to use?
07:47 - Hybrid approach using a water sprayer
08:26 - Conclusion
I hope you enjoy this one 😊🙏🏼
- Liron
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@InLiquidColor 3 года назад

I agree. It's very rare that I paint on wet paper. I like the level of control that comes with wet on dry and then softening off edges :)

@johnrestucci8269 3 года назад

Since I like to paint soft and dramatic skies , I get excellent results painting skies on DAMP paper ...

@AlisonLeighLilly 3 года назад

Thanks for this video! I struggled with watercolor for a long time because I thought you basically *had* to start out wet-in-wet and I could never seem to get the effects and rich, vibrant colors I was going for.... It was only after I gave myself permission to start wet-in-dry that it all clicked for me, but I still sometimes feel like I'm secretly doing it "wrong." It's nice to have this approach affirmed :)

@itsmimic007 2 года назад

You almost said what I was going through

@paulah317 3 года назад

I paint both wet on dry and wet on wet. I do love the action of wet on wet and loosing control...that's what makes my heart sing.

@darciebooth1043 3 года назад

I find if I don’t prewet, my edges dry too fast. Especially when humidity is low. So I often soak the paper for a few minutes (Arches cold press 140 lb), then roll the top dry with a towel. This means the underlying fibres of the paper stay wet longer. But you still get sharp edges if you want them because the top is relatively dry.

@antoniomarcos5321 3 года назад

I like to use wet on wet on light or pale backgrounds to heighten the sense of depth. As you pointed out, because of the extra water, the paint tends to dry paler when you do wet on wet, which makes it ideal for parts of the painting you don't want to call too much attention to, but still are very important for the overall perspective, especially when painting cityscapes. At the end of the day, as you said, it all comes down to knowing your values and areas of contrast and working out a good strategy to render them effectively. Thanks for the tips.

@MummyBrown 3 года назад

I do the same for my botanical watercolors. It greatly helps me build up layers lightly when I start off with a wet on wet technique otherwise I start off too dark and the blend goes to shit. This way I can build those up layers for with more dimension as the layers below dry.

@antoniomarcos5321 3 года назад

@@MummyBrown , exactly. I also like to build my work in stages; wet on wet allows me to gauge the wetness of the paper, so that the moment to render fine details comes only when the paper is the dryest.

@chantelmcskimming6633 3 года назад

Liron!! This makes sense to me, kinda feels silly to wet the paper with water and then wait til it hits just the right moment to add paint. Just put a nice paint down first, and charge in more paint if it's needed. Thank you for a clear message 😊

@lulujordaan1103 3 года назад

I agree. I also find wet on dry working the best for me. Also a beginner and I had my share of not being overly satisfied with wet on wet. Thank you,I thought it was only me being fussy.

@PHALOMOON 3 года назад

As a beginner, I think I go to wet on wet because no one has shown me how to mix directly on the paper with wet on dry. Your example of the apple was really good. It could be a whole video on its own. Thx Liron!

@jameslbaker9138 3 года назад

Thanks Liron for another great insight into the painting process. I tend to over work by going back into already painted areas. From now on my mantra is going to be paint it once and leave it alone.

@robinlandry518 Год назад

Thank you forvyour videos. At first i thought you were kind of arrogant, but i continued to watch your videos. I have learned so much from you. I also realized that what i saw as arrogance is really confidence and passion for what yoy are trying to share. I don't even watch most of the other watercolorists anymore unless its something I'm really interested in. You explain things so much clearer. Even my sketches are improving. Thank you again 🙏

@LironYan Год назад

Thank you once again Robin 😊🙏🏼 I get like that when I’m passionate about something! People sometimes also misinterpret it as anger haha. Happy you saw through it ❤️

@robinlandry518 Год назад

Don't change.... Your style is helping more than any other I've watched ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

@kaliopinikitas5821 3 года назад

Thanks Liron. I really needed to hear this today! Funny enough, I've been thinking about this lately and wondering if I should paint more wet on dry. I got my answer! Thanks again

@annettefournier9655 3 года назад

Yes Liron! The more experience I get working with paint the more I am in the hybrid approach! I figure out what level of wetness do I need to get the effect I want in an area. How vibrant do I want the color? Do I want a hazey effect? What type of edges am I going for? How much of a mix do I want on the paper? And so on. Bit these types of thought processes took a long time to come to the tip of my brain and maybe for many others too? I think that is because there is so much to learn and remember and try to put into practice in the beginning and however long it takes for these things to become automatic and muscle memory is different for everyone. But oh what a joy when the coin drops all the way through the machine and the desired product is delivered into the hand! 😉💜

@LironYan 3 года назад

YES - exactly! And the crazy thing is that you can't "read" about these skills, you have to paint, paint and PAINT! You have to experience how the water and paint react, and learn all of what you mentioned on an intuitive level. As they say, you can't read about doing push-ups 🤓 So happy you've come to a point where you figured a lot of this out, keep it up 😊🎨🎨

@HenrikVGroth Год назад

Good learning and logic

@christinedekeuster7378 3 года назад

Thank you, Liron, for this very interesting point of view... From my side of beginner, I look at a lot of videos and it is also true that the wet in wet technique is sometimes considered as a "must", which is problematic... I think I feel more comfortable with painting different thin layers...

@lindathaxton1994 2 года назад

Love this - I often don’t wet & felt like I was perhaps not doing right & maybe missing the mark doing the best I could! Thank you Liron

@karenmargo1 5 месяцев назад

I just found this and am glad I did. I'm a beginner watercolorist and am finding it way more difficult than acrylics and oils. I searched online for how to paint wet on dry and found this site. I'm so grateful. Thank you.

@LironYan 5 месяцев назад

My pleasure, thank you so so much for the kind words 😊🙏🏼

@LucemFerre01 3 года назад

I use wet to wet a lot and actually incorporate blooms in my artworks

@stinar37 3 года назад

this is sooooo helpful

@julielevasseur7391 2 года назад

I like your take on this. Think you're right, for what I want to achieve.

@JmStyles93 Год назад

Pretty good video, you earned a new subscriber!

@cdorothy444 3 года назад

It really depends on painting style. For example Maria Raczynska on RU-vid uses preset paper for a few mins then wet on wet for the diffuse backgrounds

@angelabyker1587 3 года назад

Wet on dry and controlled wet in wet works well for me. Great video, thanks Liron!

@mwgnolian2919 3 года назад

Thankyou so muchhhh 🌻🌻🌻

@jpdevs 3 года назад

I've seen a lot of artists using wet on wet (even moisturing the back of the paper) to represent realistic skies. And most of the times it end up being great. I think complex skies are a good use case for wet in wet.

@DestinyLeap 3 года назад

I see we have another sergey temerev fan over here

@jpdevs 3 года назад

@@DestinyLeap more of Michael Soloviev

@jpdevs 3 года назад

@@DestinyLeap Mathew White also

@sujanithtottempudi2991 3 года назад

Also...wet on wet gives me time to paint....while wet on dry...should be fast...which might be tough for beginners?

@kmscheid3303 3 года назад

Thanks for the hybrid approach. I hadn't heard of that before. Note of caution, some paints move more in water than others. Know your paints!

@sketchingjohn1678 3 года назад

Here's another option as well: work the first layer wet into wet with dilute acrylics. If you let them dry, you can glaze and blend over them with watercolors. I've done this to get in the lightest and midtone value, then glaze to get the darks. Also, acrylics DON'T work well on dry paper. They tend to sink in right away and stay right there.

@Glutenfreebreadloaf 3 года назад

This is so smart! I'll definitely try that in my practices soon, thanks for the tip :)

@mookherjipriyadarshi 3 года назад

Most professionals prefer a water atomizer for keeping the dampness prevalent on the sheet while they paint.

@brunog.campos3236 3 года назад

A lot of viewers are beginners that does use more affordable and less professional supplies, thus you should consider using at least non cotton paper (at some videos or specific guides), to share a closer experience to your audience

@AyaSmith 3 года назад

I totally know what you mean :) I love me some wet on dry. I have gotten very good at wet in wet though. If I may, you needed to allow your moisture level to absorb slightly. Like a sheen, instead of a puddle. But you probably know that so don’t mine me.

@LironYan 3 года назад

Haha - indeed, that's one of the most important aspects of wet-in-wet! Usually You'll have to let it dry 10% or so, unless you really want the paint to spread out everywhere.

@renemorales3238 3 года назад

Questions: Liron, do you think the type of watercolor paper influences your preference for wet-on-dry technique? Would you have the same preference if you were using hot press or rough watercolor paper? Also does the size of the paper play a role in this preference? I could see how working on 15x15 cm would be different than working on 30x40 cm for wet-on-wet technique.

@captaindrywall 3 года назад

I like your advice but even if I didn’t like your advice you encourage me to paint more

@jennw6809 2 года назад

"Based on a lot of research I did" = "I stayed up half the night reading Handprint." Yeah, believe me, I've been there many times ;-) There's also a great article on there on the 5 different stages of paper wetness that is extremely helpful, and advice on matching the wetness of the paper to the wetness of the brush. Great stuff.

@tomaszrodak 3 года назад

dziękuję Liron

@regig.9493 3 года назад

Honestly I don't believe this tangling of fibres. The reason is that paper is produced wet. In fact there is a lot of water involved in making paper. It comes out of the paper press wet. So at that point it would already tangle. If you put down a layer and leave it completely to dry then there should be no difference in the surface to it coming out of the paper press. I have been watching Charles Evans a lot, and he uses wet in wet only for the sky and distant trees etc. After this initial stage everything else goes on wet in dry. And you are right, there is a lot more control.

@LironYan 3 года назад

Hmmm, I think it depends on a few other factors. If the paper comes out of the press wet, however it's been heavily pressed and completely flattened, I can see a scenario where the fibers are held closely together, despite being tangled / messy. Then, once you wet them again while painting, they absorb and gain more mess, and dry messier (because you didn't flatten them like in the production process). I'm unfamiliar with how exactly it works, so I'm only guessing at this point (: Perhaps talking to a production expert may provide more useful info.

@cheamsy 3 года назад

As a beginner, I struggled with wet on wet as I find the blending of colour is not vibrant and I can't control the water. At the end, I use both approaches depending on the object I am painting. I thought my approach is wrong. Thank you for reaffirming my approach Liron.

@LironYan 3 года назад

It's definitely a matter of finding your own personal balance (: And by the way, I'm all for wet-in-wet, but I want people to use it not as a crutch, but out of choice 😉🎨

@aureliojmnz2959 Год назад

so nice...

@ratherbfishing455 3 года назад

What brushes are you using to paint? Thank you

@trivenipraveen2339 3 года назад

Hi Liron, so do you strech the paper? If so , that requires wetting the paper & taping it down or do you just use the store-bought paper as is? .. excuse my English 🙏🏻😀

@juliepinette560 3 года назад

Does this method have a name? Is it the same as a "direct approach" where to paint all the value ranges in one pass? I get your point about the luminosity of the paint. Could you do a demo of a small painting using both wet on wet and your a wet on dry approach side by side so we could see and compare? Thanks Liron for doing this. Your opinion is always valuable.

@lauriemarch5173 3 года назад

Great advice Liron. What are your thoughts about pre-wetting just the back of the paper?

@tradingpostfarms 3 года назад

I thought I would reply to your comment because I tried this on Arches 140 cold press, and on Boahong 140 cold press and on both brands of paper I found that I lost some of the the sizing after wetting the back, and I did not find that it added any benefit. So that was my experiment and I did it in order to see if it could help in a plein air situation. I was dissapointed.

@lauriemarch5173 3 года назад

@@tradingpostfarms Thanks for your info. Very interesting. I asked because not only do I see some people wetting the back of their paper, I also even see some people actually choosing to paint on the back side of Saunders rough paper after pre-wetting the front or "right" side of that paper. I am not at all sure what the purpose of that might be.

@tradingpostfarms 3 года назад

@@lauriemarch5173 so there is a video about extending the drying time of the paper that suggests wetting the opposite side of the paper. That's where I got the idea. In an attempt to find the best cotton paper, both in quality and value. I've tried several brands. Right now I'm using stonehenge aqua 140 and it stays wet longer than anything I've tried so far, but it does lift easier than arches, so you do have to just be aware when glazing as to not lift off your first layer. So far I'm actually loving it. But I have yet to attempt a cityscape, Liron style.

@Kimber_Lee_Enlow Год назад

Interesting

@annangel4828 3 года назад

Hey Liron. First I must say I LOVE your channel and some of my best results are from following your vids. However wet on wet can be useful for especially dramatic skies and for photos where the background is blurred. Say, something botanical where the main subject is realistic, in focus and the background is soft, blurred. Also in landscapes the distance may benefit from wet in wet in my limited experience. Again, you've helped so much! One more thing: when you coming to NYC for workshops? I missed you in the fall of 2019.

@chantelmcskimming6633 3 года назад

So, does this mean you won't "pre stretch" your paper before painting?

@jeannethibodeaux3852 2 года назад

What paper do u use?

@etina17000 2 года назад

Hi, I started watercolor in 2019 and arrived to a good results when pre-wetting small area to put in a "dry" colors or working dry to wet using a complement of water to smooth edges where I need. Now my new chalange are clouds. I saw and try many techniques and noone worked for me, except spritz water then guding color into and obtain hard and smooth edges. So my questions: should I use additifs like gome arabic or ox gal to be able to "take out" color when all is still wet? Also to arrive to take off color when all is dry. Because artists are showing their work and results without explane if they use additifs... And all I tryed was catastrophic (without other products). So ox gal helped me bether mix on the paper and gave me more time to take out colors... Now I am asking myself if I shouldn't use also the gum arabic... in my water for washes and colors. Finaly I think I'll do my way, to see what's hapen... Wet on dry + Dry on wet when I have to treat big zones... I wanted learn from people making butiful paintings, but most of those on youtube, do not expalin, maybe to send us all on patreon... It's a litle desperate... Thank's in advance Ekaterina

@corallall Год назад

Yes Katya, они никогда не раскрывают главных секретов все эти аквагуру 😂🎉

@sujanithtottempudi2991 3 года назад

Hi Liron...isn't it true for flowers the flowing soft edges are easily achieved by wet on wet?

@TheWmoon72 3 года назад

That's one technique. You can also do it wet on dry like he said. Only thing is after your first color down, use water to place next to it. (Instead of the second color like he said)

@barbwhite6217 3 года назад

If you preset the paper and do a colored wash then let it dry are the fibers still tangled?

@barbwhite6217 3 года назад

Pre-wet not preset.

@sujanithtottempudi2991 3 года назад

Hi Liron...have you watched Louise de masi on you tube...? She does wet on wet and so beautiful, relaxing....

@Amanda-tx6ls 3 года назад

Great video Liron!! As a beginner myself, you made a great point mentioning that 'more water = more paint' - which... is pretty common sense to most... Personally, I struggle to even remember that. Its a very simple mistake but I didn't realize that adding too much water when blending or adding in other colours would impact the saturation so fast & at such a high intensity. How do you feel about the quality of watercolour paints that are commonly available today? Do you think that industrialization has affected the quality of the paints at all?

@corallall Год назад

Evansen, Soloviev, Pyle are using wet on wet!!!😤

@stinar37 3 года назад

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