You Need To Rest Between Set But How Long? - Starting Strength Radio Clips 

There's no reason to be such an asshole. I feel sorry for the guy who took the time to write him. He must have a miserable personal life or something to be so damn callus no matter the topic of discussion.

john Harbour I honestly think it’s just part of his character I think most of it is more entertainment but you have to admit it makes it funny and more watchable. This podcast wouldn’t be that great if he was just straight about everything.

@Fred Tedason There's plenty of other channels much more informative with less attitude that are just as entertaining. Starting strength is a stepping stone and after that Riptoe doesn't provide much insight. I'm not sure if it's even worth the time anymore.

@@johnharbour4936 It's for fun. I really think it is.

​@@johnharbour4936 Consider the wealth of material on these topics though. Quite frankly, they've been covered to death. How many different ways can you say the same thing without losing your cool?

But are you thanking him so much?

Hahahha

I was laughing so hard during his subtle rant....and then I almost died seeing this comment

well they both can’t be peeerfect at the same time

If you’re stronger at 19 then you are at 31 something horrible must have happened to you.

I've noticed this. My rest times for squat have gone from 5-6 min to 9 almost 10 min. Two of those used to pray lol.

@@mariomoreno3565 that's actually terrible lol. 3-5 minutes for compounds. If you can't do it, fix your programming and fix your loads.

@@ProphetFear Rip just said 5 minutes is not enough if you are pushing heavy enough weights

@@JA3162 Yeah that he doesn't push and never pushed. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8MPcUYqXouw.html Read the comments, he's resting 5 minutes a set and he is waaaay stronger than Rip ever was in his entire life so...

ProphetFear I’ve noticed you pop up on a lot of these videos busting rip, which is fine, but I’m curious why you watch the videos? It seems like you hate everything about the dude. I don’t like the tv show the bold and the beautiful, so I don’t watch it. I don’t go to the show and say about it. Just curious.

You may be putting too much thought into your comments.

I agree with you. I am a millennial (so you know that means I'm automatically wrong and have a bad attitude and act entitled, etc. This of course being pointed out by older people who have melt downs and are disrecptful towards customer service workers and act like they're the most important person and should get special treatment just for being there. But I disgress ) and I've never understood why that bothers older peopleso much. I thought most people knew it meant the same as your welcome.

rip sure enjoys patronizing

@@joeypeterson3818 It is, as you have already said, a generational thing. 'No problem' came into usage by millennials (I am a millennial), so it is like breathing for us. But for older folk, it is weird. For them thanking some one is not due to them causing a problem, but it is to show gratitude. You can show gratitude even when it is not a problem. At least that is what I understand. For us millennials, 'no problem' indicates that 'you need not thank me, it is not a big deal'. We politely say 'no problem' even when we have some problem helping the other person, like help them in shifting. In the end, 'Thank you', 'welcome' and 'No problem' are customary rituals. Don't get me started on the whole politeness in social situations thing.

I once got a “that’s my job” from this waiter 😂

Desert menu? Are there cacti?

Haha yeah he is except Rip would be WAY more fun to hang with

You think so

The question was is there any beneficial adaptation in reducing rest times between sets, by someone who is doing strength training. I don't see the problem in the answer.

Because there is No Problem the answer was Peerfeect

His argument for strength training over cardio makes the case for doing both. "If you lift, you can lift a heavy weight and run 2 miles. If you run , you can run 2 miles, but you can't lift a heavy weight"

Me: "What's the best way to the video store?" Rip: "Why do we squat?"

Dudes an old asshole

I like Rippetoe’s advice, but godamn, these q&a’s sure don’t improve my opinion on him.

@@nashwilliams5852 He is provoking, trying to make you think. The point in this particular case is, the language is slowly degrading, people are getting lazier, in using the language, and in general. Also, people are not paying attention to anything, including making sense, and are acting like robots. It's really not about "no problem", it's in essence, in making you think about how illogical some things in life are, but we are too indifferent to care.

Arsen Toplak I came here for advice about how Long to rest between sets from a reputable strength coach, not to hear a crotchety old man talk about the degradation of language. Saying “you’re welcome” is illogical too in a lot of cases. What are you “welcome” to? He’s just a grumpy old codger that likes to bash change. He’s on point for a lot of strength stuff, but damn he can be abrasive.

@@nashwilliams5852 He is using his platform to discuss wider topics, that's obvious. He has the right to do that. I never thought about this particular subject, and I'm actually glad when people are kind and polite, even if they use the "wrong" vocabulary. But, all in all, I believe that his intentions are good, and the grumpy old man is just a character he plays, an exaggeration for comedic purpose.

Rip says "no problem".

Right? If you're not fatigued by the last rep of your last working set, do another rep. rinse and repeat. Right?

@@davereeves1967 that's where a program like 5/3/1 or Juggernaut comes in. You do your work sets, and your very last work set is AMRAP. And based on how many reps you get at the end of the mesocycle, that determines your working max for the next mesocycle. If your 5 rep max becomes your 8 rep max, you have grown stronger.

Robert Cachia 8 for me

@@leatherface9377 too long.

2-3 here

ProphetFear Lol you crazy.

Me too. But I try to stick to 5 mins else I'll never leave the gym!

I personally take 72 hours between sets. I haven't gotten any stronger but it's what I need to recover between sets.

Avin R Lol

no. Crossfit doesnt do reps, let alone sets.

@Real boxing Fan1 crossfitters dont do reps because they have notoriously bad form so most of what they do is cheatreps. Just to explain the joke you clearly didnt get. I have no idea how fast i can run because i never run. Running at a bodyweight of 265lb would also be detrimental, i feel. But what has that to do with anything? I am not training to be a runner. Its like i am saying penguins cant run very well and you come along and be like: "but they are good swimmers." What is the point of your comment?

The stronger I get the more I need to rest, I rest now for 10-12 minutes between squat sets and each set is so hard I'm still warm after that much rest

I guess it’s a balancing act

And yet, y'all still come here and watch the videos anyway. Stfu.

Amen. Just answer the fucking question holy shit. What kind of teacher berates a student for not yet having knowledge? What the fuck is the point of the teacher then?

He's got me in tears here. I might have to start lifting weights -----

Slightly younger, but exactly the same here.

omg seriously? I’m 52 and I rest a max of 3 min between heavy deadlifts. 8-10 minutes and your cold.

@@dickjohnson5025 Like Rip said. I think it depends on which weight you are using. Also "Heavy" could mean close to your max or how close to failure you get each set, the conditioning of the lifter and so on. I'm not cold after 8 minutes after reps with weights close to 500 Lbs because that is pretty heavy for me atm.

15 is not a magic number; just the last rep. In other words, the ability to finish the workout is what will drive the adaptation because you have done something challenging enough to force the body to adapt.

@@williamwieczorek74 for the SS program, 15 IS the magic number. That’s the point of it… 3 sets of 5, 5 pounds each workout. Rip is a smart guy but doesn’t tease out why this is the case. If it just is, that’s applied science, not science, and the answer could be anything. Grey skull does an AMRAP for that last set 💡 so there are other ways. Why this way?

he's just saying get enough rest so you can still do the very last rep with the intensity as the very first. the program is 3x5 so that's why 15 is the number. if it was 3×20 then it would be the 60th but that wouldn't be this or a strength program.

@@whatdupdoh My experience with any set/rep scheme is that the last couple reps are WAY harder than the first couple. There is nothing special about those first few reps except to create fatigue... and hopefully stimulate the energy and hypertrophy systems enough to engage as required - longer sets get different results from shorter ones, agreed. And that's kind of the point - in a linear progression, you will always be grinding your final reps eventually as you reach the plateau. But Rip is stating that the final reps are the important ones. They are the hardest. But why 15? Why not 20? Or 1 (max effort method from Westside)... That's my question. Because you can modify the program to be far less taxing, and the last reps won't mean as much. These guys are respected and we need explanations, not mantras. Save that for yoga class.

@@Xplora213 the last reps will always mean as much whether 1 5 15 or 20 those are the ones close to failure that yield progress. i can see why a beginner program wouldnt want someone doing a a one rep max max efforts. they haven't learned the form or gained the strength yet to get the advantages yet. I dunno Maybe I'm missing the idea you're getting across.

if you increase the weight on the bar and keep the amount of reps and sets the same you will get stronger because you increased the stimulus for strength adaptation. Many lifters stretch their volume on an exercise over several training days per week. That is pretty much what you are suggesting.

@@joethesheep4675 I was actually thinking there's a point where DECREASING the rest time would actually make you stronger. Ie 8 hours between sets brought down to 1 hour for example. Surely the person who can do it in 1 hour is stronger than the 8 hours guy.

@@3Q2HFNILQHF not stronger but has better condition.

@Real boxing Fan1 no. If i dl 500lb and someone else dl 500lb we are equally strong. If i need 10min.to do another set/rep and the other guy only takes a minute he has better condition than me. Also: if one dl 500lb but clean and jerks 300 he is still not stronger on the dl. He is "stronger on the clean and jerk and those airquotes mean that stronger isnt quite the right word in this particular situation (it woul be though if we where talking about dl and squats eg.). The word in this situation would be" more powerful". So you are mixing and confusing strength, condition and power which are 3 different things that are somewhat connected but not the same thing.

@Real boxing Fan1 that is true. You gave the example not me.

Your muscles will not be "cold" from the rest period. Besides, check out Barbell Medicine's research on stretching, etc.

14 minutes should be plenty.

yeah dude who takes the bench for 4 hours

@@AcceleratingUniverse you just have to beat me to the bench and then there's "no problem "

AcceleratingUniverse People who have home gyms.

The first one is egregious hyperbole dawg.

Stop pulling sht out of your ass, like this 3 point list of cluelessness.