Recently started triple/quad tracking and it’s honestly a game changer! This helps especially in parts you want to sound huge(example: a breakdown/a chorus)!
That sounds incredibly stout alright, and there still seems to be enough definition to prevent things from getting muddy. I employed methods like this many years ago pre-2000, and as it really filled out the sound space nicely, but we didn't have this cool modern gear back then. Amp sims were made for this sort of thing so that you can experiment much easier and reamp if it goes pear-shaped. The ML Drums really sit nicely in the mix, and the bass sounds awesome. You have a happy place for everything! Thanks for the awesome video, it's very interesting! 👑🎸🔥
I normally quad track on slower tracks with the Nalex Pectifier, and it sounds massive. Sometimes with 4 different IRs - Barefoot 1 being one of those. Sounds absolutely awesome here! 🤘
I do double tracking on verses, quads on choruses. sections with leads will have double tracked leads with quad tracked rhythms. solo sections can have up to 8+ guitars going at once. I like to use layering as a way to create dynamics myself.
Your mixes are brutal. I pretty much use the same set up as you from what I can tell. Could you please explain (or make a video) going over your song writing workflow? Do you write beats first and then riff over top or do you have a riff and beat idea in your head first and then track both? Improv over drum beats vs ? Thanks! Cheers!
Man I tried quad tracks for a while, made never worked for me, I prefer to have a really growling bass, I used to record 2 tracks with a Mesa Boogie and a single track in the center using a modded Marshall just to add some texture. But I definitely need to try some quad with those new amps! I probably didn't choose the amps/cabs wisely in the past.
quad tracking is not necessary. actually how you do it, is exactly the same way i do. record 2 tracks with a third track in the center just for a bit of texture. actually what i usually do in the center is just guitar harmony, or anything to thickin the guitar chords. but ya im usually playing a bit different on the center track.
@@Kalyosa it really all depends on the sound im going for. it usually goes through all the same busses though. that said, sometimes i may want to inject a bit of subtle low end harmony into the rhythm just to thicken it up so i wouldn't process it any differently. other times if im just playing the same thing as my left and right, then i may use a different sound altogether I.E. amp sims and such. like i said it all depends on the sound your going for. @Kalyosa
Brother, it's great! Taking into account all my musical insignificance, I would give the Drum Box a little more! Just to show up a little more in the final mix! But don't take it the wrong way brother, it's incredible!! I even imagined myself going there with my voice! it's show!
you can try One 100% left one 100% right one 45% left and one 45% right and the 45%'s being an octave higher it gives amazing results even without compression or any volume tweaking
I remember watching a video of Misha Mansoor demonstrating quad tracking (I think it was quad). He said he usually uses less gain, because by the time they are all combined it can be too much. I wonder if a bit less gain could help reduce some fizz build up. Also, when doing compression/dynamics on a stereo buss, try experimenting with the plugin in stereo and dual mono. Sometimes dual mono retains some width and size.
The quad tracking sounds great in this demo, but the difference to your other double tracked songs is so little, that I don't see the need to quad track... imho I liked that you muted and soloed the tracks in this video. Gives us a the Chance to hear how much the guitars, bass and drums influence the whole mix
ohh cool tips for the amp sims being different, i really need to try quad tracking but i noticed i really need to practice all my rhythm styles to bpm now that i want to record faster bpm metal. I came up with a good method to get better at speed picking , i find it's sort of hard to hear if you are spot on for 16th note drill picking(like for black metal) when i get to bpm speeds of 230 or up, so what i have been doing it playing short burts so i can hear i'm syncing to the bpm properly and then alternate into holding the speed picking for a couple bars at a time, it seems to be working for me to get faster at this. I really want to make orchestral black metal kinda like lorna shore/dimmu borgir stuff. i work with a lot of kontakt libraries. my playing is actually holding me back now lol.
Thanks for the video. I usually only have 2 guitar tracks 1x hard left and 1x hard right and then a 3rd in the centre for certain parts but this does sounds awesome and I'm keen to try out next time 🎸🎧🤘
@@JesusChrist_IsTruth-LoveForALL yes definately record different takes or another method I sometimes use to save a little time is = if i need 4 bars for example, I will record 8 bars and move the last 4 bars to another track, same timing as the first 4 and pan left or right - then like in Resington's video example, use a different amp or IR to have a different sound - but NEVER copy and paste . . . it wll sound crap
you wanna get stupid do 8 or 16 each side with a crunchy zz top type tone, maybe add a tubescreamer w/ the gain down and volume maxed to the first input in the chain before the amp. the tone/note definition really pops out even at low tunings. gonna need to record it tight af and spend a bit of time tweaking the phases of tracks to get it sounding right but 10/10 would jam again.
I generally like quad track for more "serious" and ambitious projects like Pyre of Ghosts and the like. Still, it can get messy for faster riffing and notey sections. Definitely gotta put in the extra effort when quad tracking. I do the spread pan thing, EG 2 tracks hard left/right and 2 tracks more centered, but only by a few percent. If you go too much tward the center the mix loses impact IMO. Awesome stuff as always man
Check out Bobby Huff’s video on Guitar Secrets of Mutt Lange where he shows how he adds subsynth underneath the guitars. I know it’s probably not what you’re going for, but it is very interesting. Quad tracked sounds great! Just requires more work mixing to obtain the awesome goodness! 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
Try this bro. I accidentally discovered it. Double tracked guitar Take the left and right into another 2 tracks and pan them left n right Pitch shift them +12 or -12( I do +12 since I play in drop E) Blend that with main sound with volume. This adds a very amazing artificial character. I'm sure you'd love it I used reapitch for shifting
I think your technique could work even better if you kicked it off with just 2 guitars, then at the 13 second mark in your track the 2nd two came in. Strange how that bass tone sounds really wholesome when you solo it but you can’t hear any of that tone when it’s unmuted. It just sounds like a rumble with all the high end rolled off.
quad tracking is cool in some parts or to create new tone layers for your main tone, but it has some phasey character that i dont like, i mean, is really ''heavy'' but that phasey vibe turns me back from doing it on all the song, in open chords for blending is really good, or slower parts but i dont know, i notice that phase problems.
@@resington discussion on the official group. The guy uploaded several mix ready tones from various plugins. There were an ethical tread about this. Not really a problem imo as it not really offers what a full plugin have to offer.
Mix question: don't you pull back the fader of one of the guitar pairs? I don't think there is an exact "rule" for this but I see in other quad track videos that the volume fader of one guitar pair is a few dB lower.
i can still hear slight phasing issues..so ya, i wouldn't do this if you don't want a crap sound. you really don't need to quad track. but if you do, then at least record 4 separate tracks. don't be lazy.
