Blending Amps & Quad Tracking For MASSIVE Tones! (Rectifier & 6505)

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Thanks for watching this video on blending amps and quad tracking. In search for the best, biggest, hugest and most massive heavy high-gain rock and metal guitar tone I experiment with some recording techniques. We compare double tracking to quad tracking and also various ways of blending amps, which are the Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier and the Peavey 6505. Let me know you thoughts in the comments!
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00:00 Introduction WATCH FIRST!
02:08 Double Tracked VS Quad Tracked Dual Rectifier
03:34 Double Tracked VS Quad Tracked Peavey 6505
04:56 Discussing Blending Amps Methods
06:15 Amp Blend Double Tracked VS Quad Tracked
07:38 Phase Issues And Other Methods
08:47 One Amp On Each Side Double VS Quad Tracking
11:00 The Ultimate Amp Blend & Quad Track Method?
12:22 Conclusion
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@SonicDriveStudio 2 года назад

So, what do you think? Which method sounded the best and which method should I use in future amp blend videos?? Cheers!

@BoyAditya 2 года назад

Quadtracking with 4 different amps: 2 American hi-gain, 2 british sound

@SonicSoundofDoom 2 года назад

Pretty much the ultimate tone here. :) What are the chances you take requests? I’d love to here and Engl paired with a Marshall.. pairing amps that sound different interests me.. or like an Engl and Orange

@digchevelle 2 года назад

I prefer the quad-tracking with the dB dropped that you did last.

@antonflesh9962 2 года назад

Hey John, how make pop punk sound?

@Arthur1SD 2 года назад

I take one guitar, make a double track (left right) with one amplifier and cabinet, then take a second guitar with a longer scale, make another double track with another amplifier and cabinet, and can also take a third baritone guitar for 5 and 6 rhythm tracks. I like this combinations: Diezel+(Bogner Uberschall, Bogner Ecstasy, Mesa Rectifier, Engl Fireball), Marshall+(Orange Rockverb, Supro)

@LuisVasquezMusic 2 года назад

I'm gonna try that -5db tick. It's still massive and still has clarity. I just love how quadtracked guitars sound on the palm mutes. It feels like there's more gain that there really is.

@AJDOLDCHANNELARCHIVE 2 года назад

Love the sound of the final example with the symmetrically ducked amp tones. Sounds more consistent than having entirely different amps on the L and R but still has the massive stereo widening effect because of the differing waveforms on either side. Look forward to more amp blending stuff, cheers!

@saakers 2 года назад

My thoughts exactly! Sequestering one amp to each side sounded far too asymmetrical for my taste. But, did resolve some of the phasing issues. Definitely going to be testing out this technique in my next project

@slash196 2 года назад

For me, double tracking with a different amp on each side is the best. Having those slight variations in playing from left to right gives you a feeling of width, but having two slightly different variations in playing on the SAME side just makes it muddy. It also gives you space to add real depth to the track by layering your mix with different parts that you can bring in and out to make the track more dynamic. For the basic rhythm tone, dual-tracking is the best foundation.

@saakers 2 года назад

I can appreciate that. For me, the quadtracking just suits my ocd better as it sounds more even across the stereo spectrum

@asizeablebear 2 года назад

Wow. I absolutely loved this. I hope this video gains a bit of traction 'cause: a) they're iconic amps people love and b) you're showing them used in different methods that can REALLY contextualize HOW to use them to create interesting tones. People need to know this and train how to hear it. For me, this video is actually HUGELY beneficial as I learn to track and shape tone once my ideas are born. Absolutely love this - and I agree with some here that the dB adjusted quad tracking really made this sound colossal. Though the differences in the blends can be subtle, they can be the thing that makes the difference for really bringing a track to life. Good stuff as always, Jon, I can't wait to hear more in this series.

@seanmorgan9020 2 года назад

In the past, I've had some success quad tracking by panning the 2nd pair slightly more towards the centre. Quite liked the combination of 6505 for main and a Hot Rodded Plexi as the second pair, to add a touch of brightness and chimey articulation. Peavey and Mesa is also a tried and true combo, so good job.

@FromZero2HD 2 года назад

This. And using less gain on those, and dialing in what fits the mix rather than anything you would want as a workable live sound.

@seanmorgan9020 2 года назад

@@FromZero2HD Totally. The Plexi had no boost, was just sorta...."crunchy".

@ianparker5007 2 года назад

Indeed. On this note, I've also been experimenting clean with washy verb with no verb gain guitar for leads. Try it out!

@saakers 2 года назад

You know, I actually use this same method! I think I'll try combining it with that -5db reduction Jon demonstrates at the end here ;)

@jacksmith4460 2 года назад

I agree I generally dont quad track, but when I do I hard pan L and R and then the "3" & "4" around 80%

@depthsofdarknessofficial9677 2 года назад

John you are definitely one of my favorite RU-vid thank you for this video. It's cool to see you mix stuff up like this and these two amps go together like milk and cookies , goes down so smooth

@joathescientist 2 года назад

Thank you John!! Another great video! The way you approached all the options was very systematic and I am sure this video will serve as a reference for many home studio owners. Keep it up !! cheers

@kadestorm 2 года назад

Fascinating. I used to blend a Triple Rectifier and a 6505+ in a quad tracking setup. Either that or I’d EQ the triple rectifier for two of the tracks. In recent times, it’s been primarily a blend of the Randall V2 and the Randall Diavlo, again, with some additional EQ adjustments and also the 6505+ from time to time.

@AJPMUSIC_OFFICIAL 5 месяцев назад

1 amp each side is great. Recently did a tough guy hardcore EP and you inspired me to get it reamped with a rectifier and the 5153 and it sounded massive. I was worried it would be weird but I like having slightly different tones each side but I really liked the the character. Only double tracked through, struggle to get quads properly tight

@LightCyrus 2 года назад

Your ultimate blend strategy is the one way I never thought to do it and is now my fave. Thanks dude!

@saakers 2 года назад

Yeah, that last test is the winner in my book. Massive, tight, sound there. Will definitely be testing this out on my next project. Awesome video

@chazk.official873 2 года назад

I learned new things here, trying them soon. As always, your tones are majestic!

@Hagstrom4ever 2 года назад

Love both amps, they sound great together. Excellent job man, as always.

@mitchdeathblossom 2 года назад

Its very clear here and also in my testing in the studio over the years that one amp has to take the front in the mix while the other is for blending at around -6dB, this always seems to give it that large sound and a much better stereo spread when quad tracking... Awesome test man, maybe also try the method where you use a more crunch articulate amp under a high gain when quad tracking, love this for bands that have articulate chords and strumming patterns!

@claytongouin5605 2 года назад

This was awesome. I'm glad you showed a few different approaches. I've been using two different amps+IRs on the two different stereo channels. My current favourite is a VHT Pittbull with an Elmwood Modena M90. I guess the preferred technique comes down to personal taste and musical genre. Thanks for showing all the different approaches, and this came at a good time because a bandmate was wondering about how a 5150/6505 would work with his Dual Rectifier!

@byrontanner6436 2 года назад

Thank you for the video- it was very cool to hear the differences. I think that the quad tracked with dominant amps sounded really great. Second to that , imo, was the straight forward quad tracking with two amps.

@oskarwroniewicz 2 года назад

That's one of the most informative videos I've seen ina while. I actually liked double tracking with one amp of each side the most, and I didn't see that coming to be honest. Gonna try this with my ampsims. Thank you so much for this channel!

@SonicDriveStudio 2 года назад

Awesome! Cheers!

@forbiddenengravings7306 2 года назад

So I have an Axe FX III and have been experimenting with quad tracking. Basically double tracking with one patch I made. Been experimenting with one amp to two different cabs and one of the cabs with a 'Right Post Delay' of about 11ms (chain is amp -> delay -> cab for Right and amp -> cab for Left). So far, sounds amazing! Next I'll be trying two amps to one cab and two amps to two cabs using the same technique. I find that using something like the Axe FX really makes this sort of experimentation quite easy! Have yet to really put it in a full mix. So I'm sure there will be a lot more adjustments to come.

@FuzzEater Год назад

This is an amazing channel and you deserve way more subscriptions! Thanks for your consistently great content!

@philmartin7474 2 года назад

Awesome, i liked all the quad tracked options the most with these two amps, there was more bite present with the quad tracking method, although i didn’t hear it smear the definition noticeably. Great tutorial and song/riff👍🤘🏼🎸

@laurentbarel4843 2 года назад

Hi John and thanks for the great quality content you're providing ! Another approach I'm also using as "in between" your 2 and 4 tracks is to use 4 tracks (same amp) but using two different guitars. It's a good compromise, not having the massive sounf difference in bewteeen amps you keep the guitars focused and "in your face" sounding, that you usually lose with two amps. The two different guitars providing more subtle differences they will blend in a more natural way and keep a good note definition while adding some depht. I usually use very differents guitars like Alder + passives / Mahogany + Acitives

@pattol666 2 года назад

RU-vid just introduced me to your channel my dude, so far pretty solid. Was watching the vid on the schecter 9 string yesterday, sounds great. Wish i could get my hellraiser8 to sound that good. Wanted to add that the peavey sound is timeless. I used to love mesa boogie, then i got into 6505 and i just love that output.

@billzade8158 Год назад

So I tend to use a blend of dual tracking and quad tracking. I tend to put one amp on each side and then duck out two di's when a riff gets more intricate, but go back to quad tracking when everything needs to be full ham. The only real exception is during bridges/solos where I tend to do both amps on both sides and just drop volume on opposite amps. Also I found that when quad tracking I only set two tracks hard left and right and two tracks kinda in between hard left/right and center. This works well when you need a slight delay effect as well to help create movement in surround sound. I tend to delay my hard left/right signals a few ms behind the center-ish signals

@Spider._.dust_music 2 года назад

Thx for the video🤘very helpful! I like the 2trk vs 4trk I like the different amp on each side

@bastianvanstigt6246 2 года назад

Such nice riffs, you are really talented man!

@kutnersuicide 2 года назад

I've found that to blend properly the same DI into two different chains, you need a widely different gain structure, I like to do that with a regular amp and and HM-2 for example. I will always mix the HM-2 lower though. Another option I've been messing a bit with is using TC Electronics Mimiq to create a fake doubling track. It works quite well but again, the more different the gain structure is, the better. I love the sound of real quad tracking but most musicians I work with aren't able or willing to go through the hassle.

@yuribatera9233 Год назад

Absolutely killer!

@GuusEikens 2 года назад

I watched this video yesterday evening, whilst enjoying some fine Belgian beers. The extreme nerd-level of this topic made me roar with laughter. Great fun! Great entertainment! Great job! 1 day later - in a more serious mood - I did some experiments with blending tones like you described and I learned a lot along the way. Blending is THE way to thick & smooth metal tones. The only downside to this all ... is that I probably have to buy some more gear. ;-( ( and by the way ... also some more beer ;-) )

@LookingForEntertainment112 2 года назад

Sounds brutal either way! Awesome riffage! For double tracking shifts I've used 15-25ms shifts to get that huge sounds of double tracks. It's does a reasonable job of simulating playing the same track twice.

@drrodopszin 9 месяцев назад

For phasing issues I just grabbed an impulse at the start of the track and then when you render the tracks you will see how far the impulses "travelled" from each other and then you can pull those until they match. Afterwards you can grab a phase rotation plugin (Reaper already has that in JSFX for example) and you can adjust it until it gets tight again. During a sale I grabbed MAutoAlign from Melda which does this automatically for you - mostly improves, sometimes you have to adjust it. Oh, and when you do the impulse (which can be just a very short spike), you should lower the gain. High gains just create a mush of wave that is impossible to figure out. I believe that saturation should not change phase, but haven't proven it.

@martymidgard 2 года назад

You pretty much just confirmed what I have also found: Double-tracked guitars retain their note-definition and just sound punchier. That doesn't mean there isn't a time and place to use quad-tracking such as a huge wall of sound or heavy palm-muted/chord section but overall the sound of double-tracking is where it's at for me!

@LittleMINFace 2 года назад

dropping the level down 5db for each amp on either side sounded best to me. i like the approach. it allowed each amp to have its own sonic space and character, whilst benefiting from having some flavour of the other amp to fill it out and colour the tone a bit more

@GoreSamuel Год назад

I just love this channel.

@Clinthopanonymous 2 года назад

I thought the double tracking with one amp on each side sounded the coolest.

@oskarwroniewicz 2 года назад

same here

@apoplexiamusic 2 года назад

same here! I have tried this a few times with some plugins and it always sounds dreadful, most likely because the same DI is going through the 2 amps on each side. One plugin combination that works flawlessly and sounds really good it to use the Otto Audio II II II II with the Grindstein plugin. Those pair really well and they don't have any phase issues when stacked on top of each other using their own IRs (most likely because they use MPT ones). So basically what i do when using those plugins together is to have one stereo pair of hard panned DIs going into a stereo instance of each plugin. I usually have the II II II II as the dominant sound with scooped settings, and have the Grindstein fill out most of the mids and lower in the mix.

@wmxx2000 2 года назад

Hm, never thought to do the "dominant amp on each side" technique. Will have to try that.

@jonsick445 2 года назад

I think the biggest thing is that quad tracking is a bigger sound but loses definition compared to straight double tracking. In my experience, you can use automation to bring the quad tracking more into the fore when you need things bigger and relax back a bit when you need the tight and definite sounds of double tracking. I usually set up a couple of groups in Cubase with a good compressor to do this for me with some straight fader position automation to more or less do it. Fine tuning required depending on when and where, but that's a rudimentary method I go for.

@DominiqueHeine 2 года назад

On our last album, I used quad tracking - 4 separate takes into 4 different amps. You have to choose the amp pairs carefully but it's worth it. Very happy with the results.

@depthsofdarknessofficial9677 2 года назад

What's the album is it on RU-vid or Spotify? I would love to hear what you've done

@rfisher2314 2 года назад

Very cool man!! Lots of good info in this video.

@SonicDriveStudio 2 года назад

Thanks bro!

@dicecard921 2 года назад

The final method sounded amazing, the best of all worlds

@lodougherty 2 года назад

I really like your channel man, you're so upbeat and excited to do these demos and I know they take a ton of time, so I really just wanted to say thanks for doing what you do John. You are a gem! EDIT: OH and you should quad track with two octave tracks as the quad, and show everyone how cool that can sound for heavy stuff :D

@SonicDriveStudio 2 года назад

Thanks for your comment! I really appreciate it!

@ShowboatJenkins 2 года назад

Great video, love stuff like this! I think with quad tracking, I prefer blending the amps on each side. Its subtle but if you quad track with only one amp on each side then you can just pick up some uneven characteristics. I can't remember which amp it was, but I could just feel the bite of the palm mutes more on the left over the right, like they needed compressing slightly to stop the boom compared with the other side - but honestly who can be bothered to try and level that out in the fine detail!

@adamalexanderray 2 года назад

The method that works best is the one that suits the song/project. All of these clips sounded great and has its own merits for sure. Request for the next video: Orange and Marshall blended. I’ve used this combination a few times and like they way they have their own space in the mix.

@Middlestepofficial 2 года назад

Nice comparison. I've found through the years that when quad tracking guitars, it's quite versatile to use different cabinets instead of amps (and/or cab speakers). Additionally, each recorded guitar is a separate layered recording to avoid phase issues. The quantization inconsistencies can be fixed in post production. I'm using Sonar and it has a neat radius algorithm for avoiding damaging the waveform. Now the scrutiny part: I believe that no matter what we say here, the most famous productions worldwide do edit the tracked guitars in post to quantize the recording perfectly to the drums (and vice versa). In the end, it's how it sounds to the audience, not holding onto some moral principles.

@lucasgoncalvesdefaria7121 11 месяцев назад

The answer should be (for me at least) that every track should use a combo of dual and quad tracked for each song. Metal songs are often now optimized for maximum carnage all the time but human brain and ear fatigue means if you hear a quad tracked intro and the tone maintains "on 11" for the rest of the song (unless it's grindcore 1 minute song) you aclimate to that and by the end of the song it doesn't sound heavy anymore. Songs should have dynamic peaks and valleys and choices have to be made to ensure that. For instance you can start with quad, slim to a single track for verse, go dual for pre chorus and back to quad for chorus. Use Dual for intricate bridges and quad for breakdowns and heavy outros. Brick songs sound boring AF, dynamics is where it's at, even if for metal that variation is smaller, it should still exist. Great video btw

@FEAROWNAGE 2 года назад

I also enjoyed the side by side double tracking quite a lot.

@jonathanross1033 Год назад

Incredible video - going to try this with ENGL Ironball SE and Diezel VH4 pedal + Orange Pedal Baby

@nephilymbass1 4 месяца назад

The double track with rectifier on the left and 6505 on the right was by far my favorite.

@jcwear89 2 года назад

Quad track on the same amp wasn't as tight as double tracked. But quad tracking with 2 different amps and four separate takes sounded excellent!

@perpetualgrimace 2 года назад

Your preferred methods are my favorite methods too. The guitars sound wider with a different amp on each side (or taking the lead on each side in case of quad tracking).

@TonyLaMarca2manygadgets 2 года назад

Both sound MASSIVE! I like the Mesa better :) Great video Jon!

@Dennisbluschke 2 года назад

Thank you - great and instructive video. With all these Amps, you're in blending heaven. Might wonder what an orange sounds like paired with engl or h&k?!

@SM57 2 года назад

Thank for the video👍👍👍

@Dot_97 Год назад

That's interesting. I've been doing that for a while now and it sounds awesome. I'm using a dual rectifier and a jcm800, I use the jcm800 at a lower volume to get a crunch tone for boosting the dual rectifier on the left side, and a higher gain (but not too high) for right side. The jcm 1 is panned at 100% left and 2 is 75% right. And the rectifier is at 60% left and 94% right. The right side has a little bit less gain. Then I play around with the master volumes to make it all more or less even. I don't know if I explained all of this correclty, but that's how I've been using this technique.

@borhksalduero9259 2 года назад

It’s an interesting idea but I will stick with double tracking, as you say it sounds clearer and more defined, but this idea has open another universe of possibilities mate!!! Thanks

@arronsondrini380 2 года назад

Great vid, another way is to keep the same amps panned left and right with a contrasting amp in the center. :)

@derekdamager7928 2 года назад

I prefer the format to be both amps on each side, with one dominant respectively. Also, don’t forget about triple tracking; left center & right, a la Metallica albums. Center typically playing the root notes of the riff. Blend request: Mesa Mark V35 & Mini Rectifier

@jacksmith4460 2 года назад

I prefer double tracked tones to be honest, but I like how your quad tracking came out

@diarmuidsynnott2404 2 года назад

I'd go with quad tracked chorus and double tracked verses sounds great btw 👌 👍

@KillaFXZ 2 года назад

I kept waiting to here some Corey Taylor vocals on those tracks, but then it kinda switched to some Killswitch or something, sweet riffs John! This is the only way I record guitar.

@Rael0505 Месяц назад

Great video. I honestly prefer the double tracking though!

@AndJesusSayWTF 2 года назад

Great video ! You can try Radix AudioAlign vst to blend two different amps with only double track but it will never sound as big as quad tracking !

@Bash_Man 2 года назад

Nicely done sir.. definitely 2 great amps to mix together as their toners compliment each other very well. Any thoughts on bringing in a Splawn Nitro on the show?

@progrocker84 2 года назад

This was a real eye opener! Can you achieve similar levels of tonal variety by blending different mics instead of different amps? What about just using one amp, and quadtracking with each track having different EQ/compression settings.

@jarrusjenkins Год назад

10:22 personally I would have tried an overdrive/boost before make this decision because I do like how "big" the quad track sounds but I agree the definition wasn't as good as the dual track. 11:00 I have done something like this before, however what I did was use a "main" amp tone and then the 2nd amp as a filler and blended it in the amount I wanted on both sides. For example, I used a Dual Rectifier with a V30 as the main tone left and right then I blended in an Orange Rockerverb with a SwampThang speaker to blend in some "thick" mids so the level of the rockerverb was lower on both sides. (all amp sims and IRs, I can't afford all that nice equipment) I took the idea from Kristian Khole and it worked a treat. Next time I might try a Rectifier and HM2 blend to make a nasty mix.

@demostf3944 11 месяцев назад

Sounds sweet to me!

@cmd_f5 2 года назад

I think that double tracking is better for very tight and fast riffing, though not always. Quad tracking just sounds so much bigger though. Notes have a kind of chorus effect, it kind of warms up and softens everything in a good way. The chords and open notes swell and the chugs are massive. I like the Both amps on both sides, volume lowered on one of the amps to taste. I gotta say though, the clip with one DI going through both amps sounded kinda nasty and gritty. Really adds a nice grunge feel to the guitars. IMO all of this sounded great. I'd quad track more but I'm honestly too lazy sometimes. Hahaha! Cheers Jon

@Burnt_Gerbil 2 года назад

A cool trick from AC / DC is the use of reverb. The reverb from the left guitar into the right side, and the reverb from the right guitar into the left side. It sounds even bigger. Cool huh? 😄

@WayaSayTrey Год назад

This was banging thru my monitors🤤

@Smith5665jim Год назад

I AM BLOWN AWAY BY THE HUGE SOUND, ARE THE YORK IR RES. THAT MUCH BETTER THAN THE IR CAB'S IN FRACTAL, IN OTHER WORDS SHOULD I SPEND THE MONEY. IT SURE DID SOUND SO MUCH DIFFERENT THAN WOULD I HEAR FROM MY AXE 111. THANKS FOR THE SHARE!

@Mark-zi6nt 2 года назад

Double track is the way. In quad tracking the punch fades away, sound becomes soft like cotton wool due to certain frequencies cancelling each other out.

@tonzokinawa 2 года назад

I agree. Maybe it has it’s uses in big open chords vs tight fast rhythm parts

@piemanmusic 2 года назад

Agreed. It's really good for big, "wall of sound" stuff, but tends to lend toward less metal, more rock crunch stuff IMO. As gain goes up, you really need more focus and fewer layers certainly helps.

@ok-tchau 2 года назад

I agree but with one exception: when the guitarrist is REALLY good and tight. Then I can quadtrack using way less gain on each take and it sounds massive. But it has to be "Jeff Loomis" level of good. In 15 years of studio I've worked with dozens of great guitarrists, but only two that could pull this off.

@cmd_f5 2 года назад

I see your point. However, as always there's a place. I was surprised when I heard Virvum's Luminance album because those guits are quad tracked but still massive and tight. Plus that particular guitar sound is chunky and glossy, but not harsh in any way. The quads added a nice thickening effect. In short: fat but still precise. Helps that the performances are basically identical lol. The thing is if I'm looking at tone demos, I prefer double tracking. It's easier to pick out aspects of the sonic signature of a rig vs being fooled that it's huge because of quad tracking, if that makes sense. Cotton is a good analogy though. During chugs and chords quad tracking is generally a softer, warmer sound. Great stuff

@Mark-zi6nt 2 года назад

@@cmd_f5 I will take a listen to it at some point, I'm always in need of extra knowledge. I'm sure quad can be tight and good sounding, i do not disagree on it, but i don't think i have ever encountered it sounding good. Perhaps i have, but my playlist is way too huge. Lamb of God and Decapitated are my favs, but i have no idea how they were tracked. Guess I'm lacking proper experience..? It's probably that it's hard to go wrong with double tracking, because it's far more easier and forgiving to errors than quad tracking. There's also 1 thing about me that may render my original post useless. I seem to prefer 75-85% panning more than 100% with dual tracks. I can't explain why that is, but it seems just right for me.

@joeblow1229 2 года назад

The auto-align plugin from radix, phenomenal plugin. That’ll do what you want.

@oli8624 2 года назад

Man, the quad tracked Version with one amp loeder on each side really sounded killer. I would love to hear a blend of the Laney Ironheart and the Orange dark Terror like that, I think they could fit very very good together

@IKilledTheDodo Год назад

I prefer the use of one amp per side, both for dual and quad tracking. It creates a more genuine stereo effect to me. It might be nice to switch their positions for different parts of a song, or even switching between blended and separated amps, to make it more dynamic. (Keeping the Rec on the left and the 6505 on the right for a whole song might get «boring» in the long run).

@thombuck 6 месяцев назад

Cool! I would prefer your suggestion for future vids too 🔥

@JimijaymesProductions Год назад

I have always liked the stereo way, whether its blending one signal split into two amps one panned left and one right or double track and the left track is one amp and right track is the other. It allows the differences between the amps to be picked up and feels more like having two amps in a room. The only problem is the dynamics become more separate (depending on the amps) so it isn't as tight sounding on palm mutes.

@mattvdh Год назад

for me the tightest and most satisfying tone was the recto/6505 in just standard dual tracked. no quad track necessary imo. Nice job!

@aleksi.korhonen 2 года назад

Cool video! I think double tracked sounded the best and that is my observation also in own recordings. Quad tracking gets messy and also takes more time. The benefit of larger sound can be somewhat achieved with mixing. It would be nice to hear a blend with a Marshall as one of the amps.

@marcushovatter2566 Год назад

My main method for amp sims is a single-tracked bright amp (think orange rockerverb) and then a doubletracked amp with very punchy bass and mids (think 5150) and it's not bad at all.

@jakebenigni 2 года назад

so brutal yet so lovely

@ollikyllonen8993 2 года назад

That sound is gonna break down walls! Quad tracking with db drop is best of both worlds.

@FEAROWNAGE 2 года назад

Quad-tracked amp blend all the way. Sounds perfectly mix-ready.

@sumsumab1809 Год назад

Also going down the rabbit hole with different mics per amp: eg mic A emphasizes sound of amp + cab combination better then mic B. And combine that with other mic and other amp😅

@Nikolashiin 2 года назад

Doubble tracking imo with 2 different amps, one amp on each side. Sounded more clear and tight. Cool video as always!

@ladislavmalak444 2 года назад

Absolutely. My choice too. We have a Marshall/Randall combination of two guitarists in the band and it sounds great to hear the Marshall from the left and the Randall from the right.

@Nikolashiin 2 года назад

@@ladislavmalak444 cool! I will try that on our next recordings 👍🏼

@mrhyde2250 2 года назад

The End of Heartache was recorded with a 5150 and Framus Cobra I believe. Great tone on that track.

@KalenTomlinson 11 месяцев назад

I really like the sound of quad tracking 2 of the Same amps on each side. Tone I think was the best out my TV and phone speakers.. That being said, I do agree about the double tracking it does sound more defined.. I'd prefer using that in a mix typically. The phasing you are going over later on I can kinda tell when you mix two amps together on the same pan it sounds? Muddy? Depending on the metal you are making that might be a good thing.

@chucknorris66611 2 года назад

For me, dual track with one amp for each side, easy and sound really well

@jameshickey84 2 года назад

Double tracking with different amps on left vs. right sounded best. Would love to see double tracking using the same amp but with different cab/impluse responses on left vs. right to see what combinations works best for rhythm vs. clean vs. high-gain lead tones 👍

@greham Год назад

Best metal sound I've heard in a production: a dual rectifier and a Marshall valvestate. Weird mix but it was godly.

@MRxr400 2 года назад

so, i prefer the sound of double track of one amp due to clarity and cut in a mix. the guitars would usually be a little lower in final mix with vocals, drums/bass etc and i feel double track is more than enough. for two amps, i prefer one amp on one side and the other on the other side, like you'd experience if it were a live performance. if i mix a live band with two guitarist's some times i pan each guitar a touch to either side. sounds and riff recorded in video sounded massive. great video. ever heard of an Australian band called Grinspoon, check out lost control, dead cat 3 times, champion

@techdeathhippie6319 2 года назад

My favorite quad set up is with a Wizard MTL2 and a Diezel Herbert. Thick tight but super rich

@igorpak6941 2 года назад

To tweak the phase of the tracks use the waves inphase plug-in

@DerAndereMich Год назад

VERY GOOD VIDEO, INTERESTING COMBINATION OF SOUNDS. COULD YOU MAKE A QUAD TRACK VIDEO WITH MESA BOOGIE RECTIFIER AND ENGL FIREBALL 100. THESE TWO AMPS COULD PASTE VERY WELL!!!

@erazmo 2 года назад

Interesting topic. But I wanted to compliment your riff writing. You probably make more tasty riffs in one afternoon that most of the prominent metal bands in their whole discographies.

@stegersexguitars5808 2 года назад

mixing the quad tracks volumes to taste like in your last example sounds like the way to go....and even spreading them out just a bit in the stereo field gives a more full sound...as far as the phased sound from the same di tracks on each side....i've tried and tried many times to adjust the timing alignment all without success.

@chalocide 2 года назад

What about regular double tracking and then a different third chain completely mono in the center? Has anyone tried something similar? Triple Tracking? Awesome work as always!

@bftvrocks7196 9 месяцев назад

are you using de same cabinet??? the sound is brutal!!! tnks!!!

@Shred_Rocket 2 года назад

If re-amping using DI's with different amps it's definitely possible to ensure no (slight) phase issues. This can be accomplished by adding a clicks snippet in front of each DI, then re-Amp. After recording adjust each track to align with each other by the recorded clicks to the grid. Note: You'll also notice latency on the recorded tracks by visually referencing the DI click (which should be on the grid). Once aligned ensure the phase are correct in the event 180 out. Done!

@smeemusic 2 года назад

I prefer quad track with one dominant per side. I'd like to see this with the evh 5150iii el34 and the rockerverb if you don't mind making g that happen. Please sir. Tha k you for the awesome content!