You're Playing THE FINALS Wrong - Let Me Explain Why 

i didn't know! so the best play would have been to hold it until the vault disappears

​@@Thegamingmerchantit's little things like this which I actually DON'T like about this game. It makes it very opaque what is going to happen and what the pacing of the match is. Maybe it becomes more apparent with more games... Honestly wish there was some other objective type game modes. Also, Something about the whole "stealing" aspect doesn't seem to work for me. Many times I'll literally kill the team and hold E to steal and the game says "no actually your too late." Like... No. Someone should kill me to stop my steal. Lots of little things like that which makes gamefeel janky.

​​@@larkohiya I 100% believe that if you start to steal it should stop the timer until the steal is completed or you get killed/cancelled

@@larkohiya plenty of games have time limited stick-it situations where if you don't manage the countdown timer correctly, it doesn't matter if you've wiped the enemy team. Games like, counterstrike and rainbow6

@@larkohiya that's a hot topic right now. I am in the side of "keeping it as is", since I see it as a sign that the defending team did a good job of at least slowing down everyone else (since they likely were defending against 1 or 2 other teams, 3 if extremely unlucky). But maybe I nice compromise would be slowing down the timer slightly while on capture.

Agree, it is a situation where you go slow and take time and you beat others faster.

Lots of people are playing for chaos and nothing more and that's understandable given the nature of the game but it's basically a game of King of the Hill. You can win without fighting as much but most people don't find that very fun

If the game gets an esports I’m sure the players will get very creative

It's always cool when tactical play and mindgames get rewarded then just only just hyper aggression.

No thanks I’m a light main I just go in 1v3 and die

Agree. Last point especially. There could be that slow fill during cashing out + 10k bonus for holding it till the end.

I think alternatively, there needs to be some starting bonus for coming in first the last round, it could be as little as 1k, just to encourage 1st and 2nd place to actually fight, instead of establishing an impromptu truce where they can punch down at 3rd and 4th place

EXACTLY. Until the "never deposit, always steal" meta is fixed the game's rules simply don't make sense as designed.

Wow you have some great points that could and probably should be implemented. Especially the last one. Well done

That last point would 100% ensure a camping meta.

I can't imagine being in 1st place and being pushed to 3rd because 2nd place added to the pot just to guarantee 2nd for themselves.

Yeah the strategy of doubling up cash boxes works best if you're in first place, then if anyone steals anything you're guaranteed at least second place (assuming you don't wipe multiple times)

I was with a team that made this exact mistake. Like rupert said it only works when you're in first. I find it funny that he says he needs to focus on defending from other teams and then in the video he starts running far away from the cashout. He def didn't know what he was doing

@@dgjanes917 no, that seems to be the point. To pull this off as team 2, you need to defend the box WITH team 1. That means backing up and taking non-aggressive angles towards team 1, but being able to shoot the approaching team 3. That basically means there's about 4-5 players defending the one box. If you stay near the box, you will draw Team 1's attention and they will possibly wipe you. Give them the box, back up and let team 3/4 take aggro, and shoot at team 3/4,

Has happend to me. I'm high rank so maybe people just can do differently 🤷‍♂️

I've seen people kill someone taking the cash out who would have stopped the game win lol the game is about strategy. If you and another team has 10,000 and there's not enough time for YOU to stop the cashout but the 3rd team is already taking it, let the game be tied 10,000 each for a chance to win on the last cashout rather than kill the guy and the game is over as there's not enough time for you to take it anyway and killing him gives it to the other team. Also, it's dumb to take on a 3 vs 1 situation with no back up. I'm not running up on a 3 Heavy team as a Light, I'm going to get shredded. I need back up and some tactics. Chuck a gas grenade play cat and mouse, split them up, make them chase me into the other team, something.

My idea was that the timer continues while you're interacting with it, but if the timer hits zero while you're touching the box, the cash out won't complete until the interaction ends one way or another.

It's actually not that obvious. some small thinking will make you realize it, but with adrenaline your base thinking can take over.

@@Jestersagenah it’s pretty obvious if you have above room temperature iq

@@thund3r94 Look, C9 (in OW) happen because adrendaline take over. Rational thinking can be diminish in fights.

@@Jestersage I don’t know over watch esports at all, just think for 2 seconds lol

Naw that’s boring full send 😂

doesnt work in higher elo, one proper glitch grenade or a couple of explosives will decimate bunkered rooms

I do that after the vault starts moving

Best to touch a vault, and then run towards a cashout

​@@bobfake3831 Not to mention its a real pos move

its better to grab it but sometimes the other team beats you to it, so in that case you have freedom to just be really aggressive

@@Thegamingmerchant Ohh ok. Rest of the video is really good and I hope my future teammates watch it :P

Ugh

Light is too soft and heavy is too slow and the guns are just... bleh.... medium for life

I feel you there

they would be knocked out even without it

True, but I feel like the rewards should be increased a bit. I won a game, had the most kills and helped but only got like 120 pts but on a game where I had lower kills but a little more support and we were 2nd place I got 180 Pts I think, like wth. You should get more for winning especially if you were the best in the room or top 3 or something.

nah i'm a gigachad i contest everybody

Teaming / colluding with enemies in games is cringe and it's lame that the mechanics of the game favour that behaviour.

@@zera2314lmao as if it happens more than you it is, it is very rare so crying about it is a waste of time.

@@evilkamatis542 who's crying? Teaming does happen often, and it's a lame loop hole for teams who aren't skilled enough to be in 1st place on their own.

Unfortunately content creator just live out of non-sense clickbait titles.

Wrong = suboptimal

There’s plenty of ways to do anything wrong what are you talking about? Just because you’re having fun doesn’t mean you’re not playing incorrectly

Competitive games are normally about efficiency. That's their fun. I, personally, don't find running in, shooting wildly and losing fun.

@@toxicteapot7941 me neither and everyone’s excuse is…..it’s quick play!!

Calling people who don't understand the game "idiots" is a real jerk move, friend. Its a new game and obviously its gonna take a while for people to get the hang of it.

@@iamalaser4185 I call them idiots because they understand what I’m telling them and still do it. I’m on comms. It didn’t take me long to understand this concept and I am not the smartest guy myself. I don’t expect the common world to need a video on this information. If they did, i would consider them an idiot. Jerk move? Oh well. This is basic math and time management skills

Same, that's my worry for it is that it'll leave faster than it came.

I don't think it's going anywhere. It's quite popular. They just need to get some updates out as there isn't much in the game and the progression is a bit slow. I'm guessing they slowed progression so they could spread the little content further.

Yep. After 3.5k hours of non stop Apex action, i finnaly burned out and played this season only 59 games. I actually feel like i quit some kind of a bad habit, like smoking. It feels refreshing and freeing

​@MongO11718 my man. 3.5k hours is insane. I think you need to do other stuff besides video games all the time bud

@@thegreatpiginthesky3904 it’s since season 3. At one point i made a mistake, but at the same time it made me happy, so you know, it’s bitter sweet

@@thegreatpiginthesky3904 You must be new to the apex community. 3.5k is relatively modest for a lot of those sweaty bastards, lol.

You cray cray. Tournament mode is the "regular mode" it's way the game is meant to be played.

@@Mayorofsexytown1303The way the game is meant to be played is any of the available modes to select from.

@@donovanjoseph737 lol okay sure 🤡

@@donovanjoseph737 the tag line of the game is literally "reach the finals" lol

yep just qualifying rounds :)

I mean, that's a given, this video is for people who continue to attempt cashouts while in qualifying spots with no risk to getting knocked out

In addition you want to make someone get to cover further away and use the two teammates to annoy all other teams and get any wipes if they can. So to reduce their chances of winning.

Maybe people just don't want to talk with you

@cpt_choomba well I will agree that there probably a lot of insecure people that play this so could be why. But I'm just saying for a game THE THE DEVELOPERS THEMSELVES said was supposed to be 100% TEAM-BASED you'd think that people would understand that communication is everything but I guess not

It's not the mic issue, some people just don't like talking to strangers. PvP competitive games tend to be highly toxic and not everyone have energy to deal with that. I myself never use mic with strangers and only use it while playing with my friends. But I will agree with you that Finals is very teamplay-based game and playing without any communication is just not fun at all.

yeah Im just joking fr, but game has pings tho... not like anyone understands to act on them..😅(guys who go for a vault when a team is a deposit away from winning)@@DaVizzle_Bro

The one thing I really dislike is the fact that i have to consider to intentionally throw. Like nah homes I don't want to just sit around for 3 minutes because I've already secured 1st place.

The sad thing is I think this something that's very easy to fix by just providing an incentive to stack up on money. Like imagine if your earnings carried over to the next round as a separate currency you could use to buy things like barrels/events to the turret grids. All of a sudden helping other teams secure their wins can now give them an advantage over you in the next round.

@@theresnothinghere1745 that would be a really fun mechanic to play with. They could even introduce through a new game mode maybe and test it before they go through with it in any competitive modes.

It’s about winning

@@Dollasignsalliwant I didn't say what it was for me, but what it is for almost everyone. The kills come before the winning, because one is instant gratification and most likely guaranteed, than winning is, especially if your team sucks 😅

That's why I go into quickplay modes before the tournaments, so any crave for chasing eliminations is satisfied lol

Most people maybe, not people trying to win. Which you're more likely to encounter in tournament mode (I've seen this happen a few times and also done it myself) or in ranked. I don't even play ranked tournament and still see it a lot (I assume there is a hiden skill matchmaking even in casual as most games nowadays do that).

I agree 👍🏼

I should have clarified, of course it makes sense to get to the vault first for that 1K, but if you dont manage to get there before the other team then you have the freedom to push aggressively and not worry about dying too much