YOU'RE SHORT HOPPING INCORRECTLY!

Подписаться 15 тыс.

Просмотров 978 тыс.

50% 1

Join this channel to get access to perks:
/ @dkbill
In SSBU Super Smash Bros Ultimate, most people jump incorrectly, particularly out of shield, and especially with nair out of shield.
Imagine this on characters like Min Min, Cloud, Yoshi, Link... If you have a busted landing nair, or crazy nair hitbox, this becomes game changing easily.
Ask me about Smash coaching & Life coaching on Discord, add me: DKbill#4265
◼️ Join The DKbillcord!: • The DKbillcord - Are Y...
🔴 Follow Me LIVE On Twitch!: / dkbill
🐦 Keep Up On Twitter!: / _dkbill
📚 Support My Book/eBook!: amzn.to/2DhLC0x
#SuperSmashBrosUltimate #SmashBrosUltimate #SmashUltimate
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
📖 READING LIST
My Book/eBook: amzn.to/2Wxh4kD
Woulda, Coulda, Shoulda: amzn.to/3eAfQBj
The Inner Game of Tennis: amzn.to/3nBSCKT
Mastery: amzn.to/2KKIfFP
Deep Work: amzn.to/3av0YA4
The Obstacle Is the Way: amzn.to/3eHlvT2
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DISCLAIMER: This video and description contain affiliate links, which means that if you purchase an item from one of the product links, I’ll receive a small commission.

Опубликовано:

28 сен 2024

Ссылка:

Скачать:

Готовим ссылку...

Добавить в:

Мой плейлист

Посмотреть позже

Комментарии : 852

@DKbill Год назад

Just btw, if it looks like I'm delaying her Nair a lot, I am not, I am doing it basically instantly, Pyra's Nair just comes out slow lol.

@menslingerie5502 Год назад

Just as an aside you can also get full momentum by pressing the direction within a certain time (I think 1 frame) after your jump to get full momentum as well. Important for getting the nair out earlier and getting full drift. Lots of applications where this matters for autocancels, rising aerials, sour/sweet spots and out of shield options.

@DKbill Год назад

@@menslingerie5502 thank you boss! I didnt know the specifics

@menslingerie5502 Год назад

@@DKbill it's especially relevant as it enables you to use buffered Nairs with full momentum but it's also good to know in case you want to undershoot so that you know to wait a couple frames to go less distance. Very relevant for moves like sephiroth bair.

@gestanosamuel466 Год назад

If you hold 2 shield button at the same time, you can jump forward OSS easily wothout release your shield, if only use 1 shield button it accidentally roll forward

@BlobFGC Год назад

You are. It comes out slower when you showed yourself jumping right.

@fluffydemon1 Год назад

What good advice. Can't wait to forget it immediately the moment I start playing another Smash Bros match

@DKbill Год назад

lmao nooo

@malikmuhammad9085 Год назад

Ditto

@Vic_714 Год назад

It'll come naturally. I learned that even when I try to form a move I slowly start to catch on to the inputs however, you must also train your hands to react on time. When you find yourself digging into combo you'll do it more and more just takes practice and a little muscle memory. Goodluck

@Gwenpool256 Год назад

Stop the relatability is killing me

@pennysantana247 11 месяцев назад

Or for the opponenent to airdodge/parry every singe attack and make this tip useless anyway

@doomstothfilms Год назад

"Bro can we just play something else you're ruining my birthday"

@figure55animations49 9 месяцев назад

Lmao

@tired108 9 месяцев назад

bro every time 💀

@newmail7624 4 месяца назад

AjHHhHHJajajajJJajj

@bensonbone 4 месяца назад

Lmao

@Im2lazy4thisCrit 2 месяца назад

@yuanwang9324 Год назад

I love how Smash looks simple, but has so many nuances that makes the difference between winning and losing.

@DKbill Год назад

big agree

@SadToffee Год назад

If by nuance you mean a thousand terribly implemented mechanics that you can subvert with counter-intuitive movement and basically break the game then yeah I agree!

@illford Год назад

@SadToffee aint even like the inputs come out correctly all the time 💀

@ChadwickDickinson Год назад

@@SadToffeebiggest John stance in history.

@SadToffee Год назад

@@ChadwickDickinson 🧢

@BIGAMBERFAN 26 дней назад

this is kinda tough to do consistently in a game when every move has a different amount of blockstun and you’re trying not to buffer a roll or delay your nair too much to where you either can’t punish in time or hit too high

@staticchimera44 Год назад

Jigglypuff mains: "What's the difference?"

@andrew6341 Год назад

All 3 puff mains besides HBox subs

@citrus5797 Год назад

Hey that's me :0

@mute_cebu_ Год назад

@@citrus5797 Also me.

@Swaggingdaily Год назад

No fucking way I found the other 2

@snipe_hunterz7617 Год назад

@@Swaggingdailywait. I am also a jigglypuff main. Does that mean…? *checks channels I am subbed to* Oh yeah, I am subbed to HBox. Huh

@RacingSnails64 Год назад

Me, a Ganondorf main: Air movement?

@thetakerofknees9737 11 месяцев назад

Me, a Mac main: Whats that ?

@TotshotAirsoft 11 месяцев назад

Me, a Luigi main: Yo no habla?

@theperfecttroller 11 месяцев назад

luigi mains:

@memenazi7078 11 месяцев назад

Ganon’s air speed is fast enough, you can fair reach a roll away with fair after side b and they always fall for it.

@byfabri4577 9 месяцев назад

Me, a Snake main:

@Martianig Год назад

90% of smash ultimate players also don’t shower

@DKbill Год назад

bruh lmao 💀 😂

@kingmagnus4009 Год назад

No, that’s *Melee* you’re talking about

@pinnacull Год назад

@@kingmagnus4009 nah it's all fighting game players

@no-bc4jl Год назад

The bathroom's just really high up

@k12moyo Год назад

*angry upvote*

@hipiey Месяц назад

Good fucking lord pyra distracted me this entire time I had to watch it six times to even hear you

@DKbill Месяц назад

Bro what 😭

@burgerami_ 6 месяцев назад

Bro sounds like he's recording in a bathtub

@DKbill 6 месяцев назад

Are you looking into my window rn😳

@zapadap1328 5 месяцев назад

Can't be. Smash players don't own bathtubs

@izzygarnelo Год назад

Okay so many people input jump and nair at the same time and then move because the buffering system always counts it as a short hop, aka, it's the easy way. Also, if it's done this way and instead you hold forward or backwards, you'll still get a short hop aerial but a fair or bair instead. The inputs have to be pressed super quickly to do what's said here which many players find it very difficult including myself. You have to short hop in the direction first, almost immediately let go of analog stick direction, input the nair, and press in the direction of drifting again for maximum drift before landing. It takes a lot of practice to get this right consistently.

@RandomDude647 10 месяцев назад

This is why I miss cstick nairs from smash 4; it made it way easier to do this

@thememeilator2633 6 месяцев назад

@@RandomDude647 c stick nairs still exist in ultimate. I do them by accident all the time when practicing

@kingbojack 14 дней назад

Why is nobody agreeing to this ? This is so true 😭

@remiwi2399 Год назад

Gamer discovers that holding stick to left makes character move left faster than not

@Gins. Год назад

If this is all you took away from the video, then you missed the point

@UhhhhHi2 Год назад

The point isn’t that holding a direction makes you move faster in the air, it’s that you instantly accelerate to your max air speed when you’re already holding in a direction before you jump

@itslarose Год назад

Like in every game 😂

@DanBlabbers Год назад

I main ganondorf and you basically have to dash into jump then aerial input very fast or he’s slow as hell. Regardless I always flick the stick before a jump. I don’t know ANYONE who jumps without holding a direction 😂

@rainbowresorts Год назад

tell me youve never played ultimate without telling me

@redmonika9187 Год назад

It can be inconsistent tho. I find inputing side to move forward a bit then doing a directional input jump helps. Since you'll basically always have the momentum

@DKbill Год назад

nah, just practice, it's not frame perfect but what i do is drop shield then immediately hit forward and jump. I wont move forward since im in shield drop lag at first, but you can jump out of the shield drop lag in ultimate, so Im only like a frame or 2 longer than jumping OOS imemdiately; so worth it for the added distance when u need it

@venuswine9905 4 месяца назад

I do wonder why you’d have to nair out of shield with an enemy a quarter of the stage away from you though

@Sideline1013 15 дней назад

Projectiles

@gestanosamuel466 Год назад

If you hold 2 shield button at the same time, you can jump forward easily without release shield first

@DKbill Год назад

that's really smart actually! thanks for sharing

@muttweedz Год назад

@@DKbill I don't get what he means. Can you elaborate for me?

@DKbill Год назад

@@muttweedz u wont accidentally roll out of shield if u hold 2 shield buttons :)

@LyfSukz Год назад

@@DKbillholding b also disables roll out of shield

@Lufisyth Месяц назад

I only found out a month ago that while sprinting you can bubble faster if you stop pressing forward.

@DKbill Месяц назад

Love how you say bubble that’s adorable

@ezraromero3485 4 месяца назад

The problem with this is if you’re the jiggler you can do this and Nasir them from cross stage

@DBSMoonMaster Год назад

This is CRUCIAL for characters with no fast out of shield option. Great video!

@foldedpapermoon5640 Год назад

Finally someone explained it!! All I hear from pros is that auto-short hop is bad but they never explain why Crazy how this short video explained more than them lmao, thank you!!

@elliemoffett3598 Год назад

Auto short hop has it's uses. There are some combos where it chains pretty well like Hero's dthrow -> sh fair. It's also a really easy button to hit for bringing out a defensive nair or other aerial option as fast as possible. The main problems with it are that you can't hold a direction until you trigger the move, as demonstrated in this vid, and you relinquish control the timing of your aerial attack. Many more advanced combos require you to short hop manually so you can bring out the attack a little later to hit the proper spacing, something that is very important for all crazy Luigi combos. It's also worth noting that being able to mix up the timing on your sh aerials, and better spacing for sh nair is very valuable in neutral as well so that makes relying on auto short hop considered a bad habit.

@gknight7778 4 дня назад

It's simple, you bend your legs, then extend quickly to get enough force to get off the ground.

@JosepiThe13th Год назад

I didn’t even know you could jump directionally out of shield. I thought if you tried you’d just roll ._.

@DKbill Год назад

Do it during your shield drop Animation, which you can jump out of in Ult

@frank16121 6 дней назад

I don't even play Smash, but you made me feel like I'm already trash at it

@DKbill 5 дней назад

😂😂😂

@hadesflames6288 3 месяца назад

"Jump good"

@5AIT0ART Год назад

yes full momentum Arials are really good, but really inconsistent to input (bc there needs to be a gab between the jump and attack input and the arial comes out on frame 4 )

@DKbill Год назад

nooo, the key to consistency is inputting the direction during shield drop lag (which u want to cancel ASAP) or during ending of other moves which u want to aerial after (for example landing aerial to full momentum aerial which I do a lot as yoshi)

@CrazyMusicBoy44 3 месяца назад

Me, who's nair always just turns into a full hop because i inputted it wrong

@menacingpotatoleaf 5 месяцев назад

Instructions unclear, Goku parried then killed me.

@dragenn Год назад

Yo! Great Call out!

@DKbill Год назад

thank you!

@ItalianAvalanche Год назад

I didn't even know about auto short hop 😅 I learned on Melee and this new-school stuff is a mystery to me lol.

@ERROR-CitationNeeded Год назад

We’ll worry not bc it’s garbaggio

@CatherinetheMewsthebestMTB Год назад

It's pretty funny how there's a lot of small things like this that a lot of people don't know or utilize well that would make a TON of difference if implemented

@DKbill Год назад

big agree. that's why i try to master all the small things most people neglect :)

@LifeofWiks 5 дней назад

Its good for catching landing or poking above plat with a hitbox covering your head. Its also good bc of consistency. Although I know how to do normal short hop aerials, i often get directional aerials because my stick snaps back a little too far. It also reduces the amount of inputs needed, which usually lets me start buffering the next part of a combo

@yureiotakughost9464 6 месяцев назад

When I was a marth main I would do something like this into down air for the sexy meteor effect and kill potential

@StellarisVT Год назад

Holy shit a smash video actually being helpful for the first time in history

@picklesunavailable1440 Год назад

Me, who plays K Rool: "over here, we just ball"

@celeste2762 Год назад

I've been probably doing this mistake this whole time. Thanks for pointing it out

@lulin2546 Год назад

what psychopath hits y and a that’s like holding left and right on a dpad simultaneously it just doesn’t work

@thegprince93 5 месяцев назад

I'm not even fast enough to do a short hop

@OranguBANG Год назад

Me with a box controller that has a lever to jump with 😮

@eebenitez373 Год назад

No wonder I have been unable to jump this whole time

@AjayShay-j1v Год назад

A similar explanation for B-reverse with or without changing opposite momentum!

@kevinrosario8363 Год назад

I thought this was gonna be like, fast press the jump button to short hop lol, but this was actually useful info

@felixisgone8277 Год назад

Him: explaining jumping Me with pyra/mythra trauma:

@Chris-dy1cb Год назад

It is wild to me that they make nairing so technical compared to fair and bair

@sdtrawick Год назад

I try to short hop, but I'm so inconsistent at it, without the auto short hop attack combo of X+A. I really wish that we could map short hop to the Y button and full hop to the X button.

@metareaper8008 8 месяцев назад

If you press two jump buttons at the same time you'll always shorthop Sorry for being late

@calivali2876 Год назад

I can’t agree with this. The point of an out of shield move is to be able to punish as fast as possible out of shield. Waiting to nair after a jump defeats that purpose and now puts you into a position where you’ve committed to a move and now can get blocked and punished.

@Jo_Phonda Год назад

To me it seems like a commitment issue. A lot of players will just jump without knowing if they're going to move in a direction or not.

@DerrendisNuggets 3 месяца назад

I already jump this way

@minignoux4566 11 месяцев назад

that's literally how it is in every fighting game

@kamthescholar Год назад

i didnt need this but i appreciate you making content like this for others

@keyd_tv Год назад

This guy explaining smash mechanics from melee

@Rasminger 2 месяца назад

bro just delayed his nair and called it a new tech...

@zyul6420 Год назад

This is better situationally. Depending on the frame data, you don't want to delay it unless you understand your opponent is trying to space properly but if you do this you are negative.

@adamcorkhum3345 Год назад

should have mentioned that in order to do this you need to go through the 11 frame shield drop animation + 1 frame minimum to start dash input

@DKbill Год назад

so, you can jump out of shield drop. so let's say u drop shield and on frame 1 u hold forward and jump. basically just takes 1 frame longer than most out of shield options, obviously i admit it's hard to do that frame perfectly. u dont actually need to start a dash u just need to be holding forward when u input jump

@ortallicafirst3866 Год назад

I honestly had no idea about this. I just know I'm probably gonna fall right back into that habit when I start playing lol. It's gonna be a tough one to break

@funstorm1789 Год назад

didnt learn nothing + couldn't get over that hussys nair covering her whole body

@Lightmagician60 Год назад

meanwhile, people who stick jump: {sweating}

@AverageDoctor345 Год назад

There's also instant momentum nair which lets you do a drift forward or backward nair without needing to run first. Also works out of shield.

@SeanMania213 5 месяцев назад

I’m an aegis player and I feel like the demonstration woudve made more sense with mythras fast animations lol

@anothersoul1881 8 месяцев назад

Stick jump supremacy

@thememeilator2633 6 месяцев назад

I will stand by this till my grave. Smash bros is the hardest fighter i have ever played. People like to say that the true fighting games like tekken and street fighter are harder but they miss one thing. they have literal step by step guides on how to do combos and moves that you can read to learn and build up muscle memory. If Smash bros had something like that then i'd be great at it but since all these strange moves and inputs are basically fan made that means its so much harder to actually learn the pro moves and combos. I get everyone has their own buttons for stuff but a simple (Special+->) goes a long way.

@kinovsthewrld Год назад

I just wish I could get my Roy short hop nair muscle memory back. That 1st hit is so good for combo starters

@charleswestenberg4472 Год назад

Situational at best. Jumping straight out of sheild is quicker than dropping sheild, dash inputing then jumping. Out of shield options are huge in this game, and if your quick option doesn't work then consider yourself at a frame disadvantage

@Mr.Foxhat Год назад

I have always used tap jump, and this is making me decide to implement the jump buttons into my play style.

@kyurei4478 11 месяцев назад

That's typically the type of little detail that hold most players back and prevent them from improving. These kinds of indispensable tips should be centralized somewhere so everyone would know and where to go but nobody ever does this. Thanks for this video, it's great. But only people who will end up on it by chance will know.

@bruhinthewild 10 месяцев назад

I always jump with the direction input.

@DKbill 10 месяцев назад

like tap jump? i dont recommend

@aprinceofearthsea4875 3 месяца назад

I can't stand nair, lmao. It feels like my stick can't even return in time for me to press the attack button.

@atari_hmb Год назад

yup. they also over shield too

@thisisquitter 5 месяцев назад

distance vs speed. fair mechanic ngl

@metalmagerin3 Год назад

Me, who now misinputted forward air: 👁️👄👁️

@KalamShellaby Год назад

As a Cloud main, I can say, this is useful!

@Ms.Frost22 10 месяцев назад

I'm a joker main so, I know about the jump, hold left or right then jump, more effective since you perform his kick better

@axelandreo6438 Год назад

Yes but by doing this you lose some frames while relaising shield

@Star-um9cz Год назад

I dunno.. that sounds like extra frames before an attack. On laggy characters, that’s the last thing you’d want!

@chrisroberts6797 Год назад

Samus is floaty just enough where this don’t matter.

@DKbill Год назад

Nah this still gets you more reach

@Chronas264 Месяц назад

Ultimate players finally figured it out

@jaiydenventura5068 Год назад

i’m realizing how smash 4 cloud like pyras nair is 💀

@DKbill Год назад

loool yeah

@victoranguiano6297 Год назад

It’s not that I don’t know, it’s that I’m not good enough to execute the short hop every time 😭😂

@LyfSukz Год назад

You can auto short hop by pressing 2 jump buttons simultaneously

@Sockem16 Год назад

You can also full momentum Nair which is doing the short hop aerial and then pressing a direction a few frames after

@DKbill Год назад

Idk abit that

@dagoodboy6424 Год назад

I was doin it right the whole time and never knew it.😊

@legionssb Год назад

I think with proper timing you can buffer your aerial with max airspeed, it's necessary for lots of combos, so there isn't actually a need for delay, the real issue is that players try to buffer aerials that are meant to be fallen with like greninjas fair or nair, of zss nair.

@DKbill Год назад

yeah

@dragai2005 11 месяцев назад

so if u shorthop out of shield it works

@seiohan Год назад

as a kazuya player this is very useful

@luigio8484 Год назад

seeing that jump makes me so fucking jealous… I love luigi but man the jump speed

@slimewizard7350 10 месяцев назад

Objection: I dont wanna

@DKbill 10 месяцев назад

cant argue that

@Toonwoons Год назад

I can't short hop without the macro, shit's so hard

@DKbill Год назад

Just practice. You got this

@LyfSukz Год назад

You can auto short hop by pressing two jump buttons simultaneously

@estebandavid4853 9 месяцев назад

To me it helps to be running then leave the stick in neutral and then use the macro to cover space, it is better to use the actual short hop, but then again, it is kinda hard.

@SomeGuy-qd3li Год назад

You sounded like you were struggling to get the words out at the end

@fuhbree Год назад

I feel like even more of a minority than those you're already trying to correct lol My two jumps are usually mapped to X and ZR, (the right TRIGGER) and my shield is mapped to Y. So if I wanted to do a shield into forward short hop nair, I can just press y, slide my finger to X and press A with the base of my thumb while using the short hop input. This is what having a 3DS without a working L trigger for years does to a mf lmaoo. I needed both my grab and my shield, so the default extra jump HAD TO GO.

@BLITZZZZZZZZZ01 11 месяцев назад

JUMPING IS JUMPING

@Balladov Год назад

I mean that is tractable and not safe on shield for some characters, but sure, Def have in your kit

@akantorman1 Год назад

I will 100% not manage to nair if I jump with directional input.

@DKbill Год назад

😂

@cfishroll Год назад

This will help me greatly

@Poisonspidermanfr Год назад

What people haven’t been jumping like this?

@lgjgamer1396 Год назад

Now teach me how to use forward to instant back air

@Alexrun902 5 месяцев назад

There's actually more to this than you're letting on. The reason we don't see most players do this is because, due to the buffer system, it makes it kind of hard input out of shield at times, especially online or in high stress scenarios. Which is understandable because if you're too early or too late with the inputs, you either get a roll instead or just the short hop ariel with no air speed momentum. There's also not many characters that massively benefit from using this because of their air acceleration or range being just that good that doesn't matter or because the moves hitting their shield are safe enough to where this changes nothing. This technique is certainly useful offensively, such as Fox gaining a quicker way to nair up smash, but it's not as useful defensively.

@Octobeann Год назад

Note, this doesn’t apply nearly as much to G&W because his air acceleration is nuts and his nair is the size of a small country to compensate as well.

@DKbill Год назад

LOOOL

@gamersunite9666 Месяц назад

Unless you play byleth. The attack lasts for so long that it doesn’t even matter. And I don’t care that “Oh, but you don’t get the full damage potential” I am looking for a near guaranteed hit to interrupt an opponent