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Holy shit yes

Didn't i see you on that one man in the suit video?

@@yourlocaltapeworm yes you are correct again

I can imagine him saying the “we were gods once” line That would be so badass

@@nickthebabba7767 fr dude

Damn.

Bro slaughtered all the minion Decepticons and then spared the final boss 💀

@@thescarletking3301 last of us 2

Which supports the Empurata theory.

Man imagine if he then became the main villain of Age of Extinction, would've been awesome

Honestly! Though I'd like it if there was some purple implemented on his design

Wtf is that pfp

@@SilverBush86 he is literally purple..

Rude dude 😑

@@Pythix-zu5gf I meant in the bayverse design

"Clarity of thought before rashness of action."

I knew Shockwave's voice sounded familiar. That's how G1 Soundwave sounded without the notes.

A plan so masterminded you'd accidentally call it a plothole.

Nuh uh​@@samurexatlas7373

Tbh, i always thought that was the case. Someone figured that, since sentinel was out of commission, they needed the matrix to revive him. So, they let the autobots grab him, just letting them know he was there.

​@@samurexatlas7373true

Isn't Megatron actually afraid of Shockwave canonically? I don't know if this applies to the Michael Bay movies.

@@friendlyreaper9012 I think soundwave is megatrons most trusted. Correct me if I’m wrong but hasn’t he been Decepticon leader multiple times?

@@tunatunafishie Your correct, Soundwave is the most loyal (and trusted) ally of Megatron. While I don't think Soundwave has ever really been leader of the decepticons, he will vehemently defend the position of leader of decepticons against any other decepticons until Megatron returns

Also, can you imagine how many times that parachute got caught in his complex ass design? I'm surprised he didn't just rip it apart from his spiky ass body constantly catching it.

He also might of not known what the heck it was too. Put ur self in his shoes, Ur fighting and a white thing falls on u and u can't see.

Yeah but if you remember from just a few minutes ago shockwave literally shrugged off the destroyers' bigger gatling gun rounds AND CONTINUE WALKING FORWARD. I don't think he'd have any trouble against the human's tiny and comparably weaker assault rifle rounds.

Hes got nothing on Optimus Prime's list

@@frederickyin4422 true

If only they an actually tell us, why Optimus killed him so, and not just "Read comics, so you will understand"

@@illyanesterenko8930 There was a tie in game that shows how nasty he was. He was slaughtering Autobot waves effortlessly. In this film, Shockwave is as powerful as Megatron in the first film, just emotionless.

@@shauntempley9757 Oh yeah, but why nothing of it was showed IN THE FRICKIN MOVIE?! Why I have to play, to see how cool Shockwave was in the games, while in the movie he was nothing.

@@illyanesterenko8930you don’t understand anything and clearly didn’t watch the video or movie

@@Ohmannn25 oh, I watched the movie, of course I did watch. Why would I even type this comment if I didn't watch the movie?

Exactly. I compare it to Godzilla 2014. Not much screen time but DAMN he has a presence

Yeah he is planning to get dismembered by Optimus. He is a red herring for sentinel, that is all.

Yeah no, his lack of appearence before the chicago fight is a fair argument, but after that it's still bad, he should've had more screen time of him attacking and fighting the autobots, and he shouldn't get killed by a parachute

@@luxuriouswatera9532 I don't wanna be rude but you didn't watch the entirety of this video have you lol.

Yeah, that's exactly what happened and this game was confirmed as a canon prequel to the movie set very soon before it begins.

That’s fucking epic. I’ll need to get a copy of that game lol

@@Green_The_Gamer I highly recommend it. It plays very similarly to War For Cybertron, since it was made by High Moon., so you know you'll be in for a good experience.

@@dravensanders6157 It's not canon

@@Richtofen-gy9cj while its not in continuity with the films, the backstory that states that shockwave was frozen was used for pretty much ALL tie in media for DOTM despite the fact literally none of it is connected to the game, kinda implying that is meant to be his canon backstory

Very true, I honestly never even thought about the space bridge explosion effects before. I didn't mean to imply that TFP Shockwave was weak, because he absolutely isn't, I just meant to say there where times he'd go down easily for a breif moment or so despite his strengths, though the guy would always get back up and continue the fight.

@@Blotzwave Yeah, that's fair (:

@@Blotzwave I am happy to see that there’s also a shockwave fan

Ya TFPrime Shockwave was a problem in basically every encounter

Two things you forgot to mention, TFP Megatron only clung on to dear life because of the dark energon, Shockwave didn't require that and before being knocked down by Bumblebee, he took down both Ratchet and Smokescreen, the latter was holding the Star Saber so he still did his part and then some despite the small role in the final episode

Yes.

Absolutely.

Coming from you, that means a lot. Thanks so much man!

Ay! Theorymus is here! Hi

Unlocking and dominating as him in multiplayer was such a good time. I always found it strange he had no alt mode in the game despite the toy having one.

I'm pretty sure the DotM game is canon

Funnily enough, it matches his G1 self pretty well. Shockwave doesn't have a face. He has only one arm. His alt mode is literally a giant weapon. Shockwave is more of a machine than a human. Hell, more of a machine than a _transformer._ So this...mutation to a strictly inhuman(e) creature is very welcome indeed

And despite þat, he's still very conscious of Driller-Bot's healþ, especially in þe comics, which pretty much show he love it wiþ a passion.

Truth

THIS. My main problem when it comes to bayverse designs is that 90% of they don't follow the same design philosophy Shockwave and Optimus do. New and unique, but instantly recognizable as who they're supposed to be.

@@SNDWV99 Unicron trilogy Red alert, tfp arcee, animated prowl, armada megatron, tfp soundwave and starscream, rotb scourge and battletrap, bb dropkick. These designs are unique and still looks good yet does not match the original. Do not give the "G1 started it" G1 was made just to sell toys, comic and merchandise you are saying that because it came first. Example bayverse blackout and barricade both designs override their original design no one is going to look at the micromaster and think that's them, Blackout design came into animated and tfp comics while barricade design is literally so popular that newer design took it as inspiration, wfc trilogy barricade, wfc game which took his black colour schemes, and animated guidebook which also made barricade a cop. Transformers design is always changin so why does only bayverse get flaked upon this was a trend back at the time with unicron trilogy, animated and prime. Also bulkhead from energon was a helicopter junkie while from animated he is big, lovable guy which prime took inspiration from his design and put him in. Tfp starscream who looks nothing like his g1 counterpart yet acts like him his a traitorus con in the first 2 seasons. Tfp soundwave looks like nothing and yet he acts like soundwave, loyal to megatron, eyes and ears of the decepticons and spy on his enemies. Armada starscream look little bit accurate as he has no blue but only red and white and yet he's different he is loyal to him and only betrays when he is mistreated and decided to join the autobots and died to make two faction to join alliance to stop unicron. Tfa ratchet looks accurate and he acts like a grumpy guy with ptsd while his g1 counterpart is overall a nice doc. Que looks nothing like wheeljack and yet he acts like wheeljack as he creates weapon for his teammates, while tfp captured his coolness and wrecklessness. Bays ironhide looks like a grizzly tough guy which his original counterpart was depicted and he acted like that, while his tfa counterpart who looks like the og but doesn't act like him. Bays Bumblebee is so iconic to the point that many shows depict him with this design, tfp, cyberverse, earthspark and rid2015 with different head and even with the reebot unicerse, it's iconic to the point that bumblebee is a car with yellow colour and black stripes. Bays crosshair while looks nothing like his og counter part and yet he recieved lots of new toys of aoe and tlk. Edit: and probably is iconic at some point. Another one is Bays constructicon they look nothing like their ogs and yet they still looks good with the exception of maybe hightower. Another one bays soundwave despite his design he acted like soundwave in rotf, he gathered intel where megatron was dropped and send ravage to get the shard and later sends a team of constructicons to revive him, he later calls the cons to earth after primes death, he later tracked sam in egypt, in dotm soundwave acted as carly's car, which no one suspected until after he gathered intel he revealed himself like in g1 where spike found a small cassete and took it where soundwave gathered intel and later revealed himselft. What did bb soundwave do commanded the cons and ejected ravage, that's all he did, while future movies will come we will see and maybe i will change my opinion on him. It doesn't matter if they look the same everyone grows with their own show or movies but acting like every design should be the same will slowly become bland, if the designs look like they fit the character and acts like what it looks like it's good. Another example tfp megatron mixture of g1 and bayverse and i will argue that he looks more threatining than his g1 counterpart as he doesn't give the leader of the decepticons vibe than tfp or tfa. Bays megatron while he was a lacky after 2007 he planned the operation to retrieve sentinel, he fooled the humans and wait patiently when they were making galvatron and later took over it's body like tfa. BB dropkick does not like his orignial and yet he's my fav design while scourge and battletrap who looks nothing like their og and yet still looks good, i get the criticism on aoe and tlk as we cannot see the car kibble but complaining that they should like their g1 counterpart is at this point is overated. I get you want traditional characters look like their traditional characters but this make transformers unique, characters in different continuity looks different than their original counterparts and yet still looks unique and fresh, this is the beauty of transformers.

@mohammadhossain9608 The problem with everything you just said is character recognition. Not to us fans, but to the general audience. Let me ask you a question: do you have a problem with Spider-Man always looking like Spider-Man? Or Batman always looking like Batman? Not talking about the one off suits like the Big Time or Zebra suits. The main costume in every show and movie. I'm assuming no, because those characters are so iconic and well recognized that even a 70 year old in a place with no internet knows who they are. Why can't Soundwave have that same treatment? Or Red-Alert? ESPECIALLY Megatron. That's what Hasbro's goal is with the evergreen designs. THIS is what our characters look like. You can tweak them to fit the new style of whatever new project you're working on, but they NEED to resemble THIS. Also, the whole "G1 was just an advertisement for toys" argument is incredibly misguided. Every piece of Transformers media is a toy commercial. Even bayverse. They got rid of the integrated weapons of the first two films so they could market the new Mechtech gimmick for the toys. If the franchise ever wants to have any staying power in the public consciousness, it needs to have recognizable characters as well as good stories.

@@SNDWV99 I agree with some parts of the arguement that characters being recognizible, firstly that legacy character should be mostly recognizable like, Optimus prime, Megatron, Bumblebee, Starscream, Shockwave, Soundwave, Ironhide, Ratchet, Ultra magnus, Galvatron etc. Optimus: red and blue colour scheme Megatron: grey colour scheme with canons like tfp or g1 or retractable like bays Starscream: The plane cockpit should be on his chest (Idk about his colour scheme as he is a military earth jet which is mostly grey however if he revealed himself to the humans then he could paint job himself to be prideful) Shockwave: one eye, purple colour scheme and hand gun Soundwave blue and gold colour scheme, with face mask and visor( though i like bay's soundwave design, but it was silver due to make a revealation that he is carly's car to shock the audience) Bumblebee: yellow colour scheme with black stripes Ironhide: Red, black, canons like his tfp counterpart ratchet: depends if he's an ambulance then red and white however if he's an emergency vehicle then maybe green Ultra magnus: red, blue, and white or mostly blue and slight red like his tfp counterpart Galvatron: purple colur scheme with grey or colour scheme like his angry birds counterpart and orange canon Though characters like barricade, blackout, crosshairs, knockout, strongarm, and shadow striker who were forgotten characters literally had a redesign which we all recognize them as now (Barricade: cop car, blackout: helicopter, crosshairs: green sports car, strongarm: female cop, shadow striker: a bot damage to the point that after being rebuilt she looks like frankestein) these characters are forgotten but later were remembered as what they are now. Though design with some tweaks work like optimus with flames, bumblebee's stealth form, megatron's upgraded colour scheme (night stalker, dark energon redecos). There are also some artist like shan4rt and maxeralfa07 who mixes animated, g1 and bayverse to make unique redesign. But I agree with the points you made easily recognizable characters but with some few tweaks i agree with points, but i feel like hasbro should mix up design which create new, recognizable and unique design like armada optimus who had red and blue colour, with some tweaks like his truck grill being the body and smoke stacks on his forearms but still recognizable not flat up g1 with mechanical design, this is why i loved rotb arcee she resembles her g1 counterpart like the head, visor but had a different colour.

@mohammadhossain9608 I don't disagree. Barricade and Blackout are two of my favorite character designs, with Barricade being one of my favorite characters. None of that is due to the original micromaster. No-name characters like that can be revamped and reworked due to their obscurity. I just don't want every character except Optimus and Bumblebee to be treated that way.

The developers confirmed in the making of the game that it was a hard set prequel to the movie set briefly before it to explain certain details of the film.

True, but why *_just_* be an assassin? When you can be a logic bound scientist *and assassin!*

i completely agree with you good sir

I like it but its hard to tell apart from the other decepticons. Imagine they were all standing next to each other, facing away from the camera. Just a row of the same texture and silhouette

@@bingbong_luver not bad for me, I have no issue with it

@@bingbong_luver He has purple to identify him but due to the dust we can't see it but still true.

Seconded.

cool

Bumblebee was pretty strong in Prime though

You really gonna ignore all his other feats in that show?

damn cherrypicking at its finest lmao

@@ThaBababoey nah i've watched the show fully like 3 or 4 times and he's kinda right, that was a dumb moment

I heard deleting the model can crash the game.

@@dedarhossain8278 True someone did that and it crashed source: Someone from the transformers memes subreddit did that and it happened.

WAIT WHAT THE FUCK LMAOOOOOO.

Really?

@@dedarhossain8278 That's a low bearing Shockwave, there.

Maybe u might do a powerscaling video on him?

@@demolishingtank8853 I'd love to if there's any interest

He did kind of have a fight with optimus, but I mean like a little longer with him getting some good shots on optimus.

That's actually a much better way to put it.

Your explanation doesn't rely on something other than your headcanon. "but the only reason for his death was Shockwaves ability to study and understand his enemy before he attacks" like... he had a brain this all time to understand his ennemies? Well ofc not because he's screentime was shit. For the entire movie this one eyed mf acts like a regular Decepticon it's insulting for Shockwave and not even Energon did that

@@mohamedrahmouni4362 Think about it, bro. He is on a planet he has never been on before, not only facing Autobots, but a large assortment of humans. How was he supposed to know they had parachutes? You have to think about these things with an open mind my guy, and not be a negative nancy.

@@Soundwave880stopmotions agreed dude, people need to take a chill pill

Oh yeah totally understandable point to add, the only reason I didn't mention the games is that, again, I just didn't want to have to rely on tie-in media in order to make my points. Also the games contradict the comic events, as in the game, I don't think Megatron has ever met Shockwave until the end of the DotM game? And even then, not only would I have to analyze that game, but I'd have to analyze it's DS counterpart port, which is technically two games as there is an Auotbot campaign version and a Decepticon campaign version. And who knows how those differ. Basically it would have been alot of research I would have had to do just for me to disregard it anyway, so I just omitted it entirely. Would definitely go into it if I was to piece together a timeline for Shockwave though. In the meantime, thanks so much man, and thanks for watching as well!

Thank you so much for that, the screentime calculations bit was not fun. Like there where so many technicalities I had to figure around such as do I include the intro, the credits, what if Shockwave is in flashback/replayed footage, etc. The speculation bit was much more fun to do, haha. Anyway thanks again man!

Okay but The Fallen from RotF as your #1 favorite Transformer is a bold, based choice. I applaud.

I know he doesn't get to do very much despite being the main antagonist of the movie, and he gets bodied in the final battle, but I just think he's awesome. His design is really cool, he has an amazing voice (obviously, since he's voiced by Tony Todd), and his weapon and powers are great. The scene where he uses his telekinesis on the military vehicles is one of my favourite scenes from the Bayverse. He did at least have some impact on the story such as being the one to start the war between the Autobots and the Decepticons, revealing the existence of Transformers to the public, forcing the humans to try to find Sam Witwicky, stealing the Matrix from Optimus, and almost destroying the sun with the Star Harvester.

@@Dark_0verlord Oh I 100% agree. Despite his lack of screentime, which honestly never bothered me, his impact of the franchise is incredible. He technically even caused the franchise to happen due to his revolting against his brothers and inspiring Megatron. The Decepticon insignia litterally just being a drawing of his face is also just grand. His death scene is one of my favorites in all of the Bayverse as well.