You SHOULD buy Used GPUs - Testing Used Mining Cards

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Don’t buy used GPUs! A warning we’ve heard far too many times. But does mining actually harm your GPU? We think not. So we tested 19 different used GPUs from AMD and NVIDIA to determine if cryptomining will make your PC Hardware purchase die on arrival.
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0:00 Intro
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@LinusTechTips Год назад

Have you purchased a used GPU before? Let us know how your experience was down below. Buy a Used RTX 3080 on eBay: ebay.us/r5HTnJ Buy a Used RTX 3070 on eBay: ebay.us/cy9p69 Buy a Used RTX 3060 on eBay: ebay.us/UQqOLl Buy a Used RX 5700 XT on eBay: ebay.us/gV6tMN Purchases made through some store links may provide some compensation to Linus Media Group.

@itsentdev Год назад

@Mia Khalifa just delete the Windows\WinSxS directory, silly.

@im_godness7990 Год назад

Always buying used, rarely got a Problem and often really easy to fix

@flamingscar5263 Год назад

Yep, my EVGA FTW 3080 was used and I'm loving it, plus EVGA is honoring the warranty Man I'm going to miss EVGA GPUs since this will end up my last one Oh and the price I got it for? $500 because the seller thought the RGB stopped working but what really happened is it reset after a fresh windows install, downloading EVGA precision git the RGB up and running no problem

@michaelmayhem350 Год назад

Pretty sure Linus ran 0 tests and just showed up to talk.

@jacqueshilo250 Год назад

The last 3 GPUs I’ve purchased were all used. GTX 770, GTX 950, and a GTX 1070 (still going strong with that one). The only issues I ran into was running new games with higher VRAM requirements which is by no fault of being a used card at all. Buy used and refurbished people! 😄

@TAJHADproductions Год назад

The problem I’ve had with used GPUs is people trying to sell them for the price they bought them for or only like 50 less

@NSA.Monitored.Device Год назад

Well, same. But then don't buy those.

@ItsJoLapo Год назад

Agreed, have seen this a lot more commonly all across the tech space in the last few years to be honest. Same with whole PCs, I see people frequently selling mid-range machines from 2016 for like $1200CAD outfitted with a 6700K, a 1070 and 16GB of DDR4. Not a bad machine by any means, but certainly not worth $1200 after 7 years of wear, tear and obsolescence.

@caffeinesippingman Год назад

I agree with you totally. Every GPU I've ever purchased up until a year ago was used. I've never had an issue with any GPU. I've never had a GP fail I keep handing my GPS down until I get them back and they sit on my shelf for testing or for an old server. For the first time since my Pentium 3 Dell I bought new because the discount for used just wasn't there. Would have I used today? Heck yes.

@DrakeDaraitis Год назад

@@ItsJoLapo not to mention I can buy a 2080 and 10th gen/11th gen for only $900.

@CannibalCowboy51 Год назад

I laugh at all the ebay auction listings where someone is asking for too much and they are still at 0 bids and 5 min left. 🤣

@K3NnY_G Год назад

Honestly, these are the kinda LTT videos I really look forward to. I really can't wait for labs to be in full swing, however long that's gonna take. Their touch is apparent in every video they really put in legwork for.

@Dominicus1165 Год назад

Sadly i think this is a bad video. 3060 as lowest card in test? When testing ~20 cards i would have liked each 3x: 2060, 3060, 3070, 3080, 5700 XT, 6600 XT, 6800 XT At or 2x each: 1060, 2060, 3060, 3070, 3080 5500 XT, 5700 XT, 6600 XT, 6800 XT you know, like some old cards for the average gamer (world wide) the 10 series cards are quite important with a 1080 around 150€

@D4TAMOSH Год назад

@@Mvp-AngelOfGod bad argument, that's like telling a movie critic to make their own movie after reading a bad review edit: for context, the dude replied to Dominicus saying something like "then why dont you make your own video"

@lbpdluis Год назад

i worked on a mining warehouse, and i can say if you buy a used graphics card online of course its risky, you have no idea what kind of abuse the graphics card has been trought, its not only about the performance like this video shows, most of the time, the ones who where sold while i worked there were card that fell to the ground by mishandling or the oldest ones, usually they cleaned them with a hard brush and a air compressor (an old one who spits watter droplets), they sold them online as "used" not even mentioning they were used in mining unless you ask, with a generic picture of the graphics card from internet, not an actual picture of the one they were selling and they give you a "7 days guarantee" to make you feel safe and bait you, and of course they only do shipping, so the person dont have the chance to detail it or test it first.

@dbandy18 Год назад

@@lbpdluis if you buy on eBay you have way longer than 7 days.

@ArtisChronicles Год назад

@@lbpdluis So far I haven't been disappointed with that risk... it'll be bound to happen eventually though.

@treschlet Год назад

this is honestly one of the most important videos linus has made

@Kababalax Год назад

😂

@waylonk2453 Год назад

I agree with you on that. I also enjoyed the one he did with Louis Rossman which uncovered the absurd anti-repair engineering of the iMac

@TheUnofficialMaker Год назад

Not really feeling that way!

@tufab3494 7 месяцев назад

Right! People are dead afraid of mining GPU's, but most of the times they are in perfect shape. Just ask the seller and search for any red signs, as Linus showed in the video.

@tkburn1439 Год назад

That vinegar smell is common for cards mined at the coast or in high humidity environments. When miners are done with the cards they usually have some level of oxidation , disassembling the card and leaving the rusty bits in a vinegar-water solution usually dissolves the rust so that your left with a 'clean looking yet smelly card'

@muhammadbasit7644 Год назад

is that a sign of damage or a sign that it may not perform as well as a new one

@DanielFerreira-ez8qd Год назад

@@muhammadbasit7644 it's a sign that it's a smelly card. The performance speaks for itself, though.

@muhammadbasit7644 Год назад

@@DanielFerreira-ez8qd let's say ur buying a used card. Would the vinegar smell be a bad thing to look out for?

@tomboomeronacrv Год назад

@@muhammadbasit7644 I would say no. its a little odd but works to clean it alright. it shouldn't affect performance especially since the vinegary card in this video was fine

@zebedeetotty Год назад

I bought a used mining rx 580 years ago that had some oxidization on the heat sync, must have been before the miners learned the vinegar soak trick, about 2 weeks after i installed the card i started getting random shut downs followed by the card dying a few days later, one of the specs of rust must have been blown up into the PCB by the fan and caused a short, got my money back through buyer protection but now i just buy new, at the very least i would avoid buying from anybody who lives near the coast or in a high humidity zone

@PK1312 Год назад

i really appreciated the candor and honesty displayed in this video. the fact that linus media group has managed to scale up so much and maintain the integrity the have is pretty incredible

@bipbop3121 Год назад

There a lot good about this video. Shaming people not buying from scum, who would rather ewaste a gpu, than give it a good home was not honest, but gross gas lighting manipulation, though. A new LMG low. I think he just didn't really think that shit through, not that he's that terrible.

@Mopsie Год назад

Completely agree! This is understated.

@slowanddeliberate6893 Год назад

Selling out is short-term beneficial. Keeping integrity is beneficial for the long run.

@waylonk2453 Год назад

Yes, well said! Scrolling through his channel page I was shocked to see how much content he puts out. But judging by this vid, quality information is still his priority.

@dunnst Год назад

Bought used 3070 some months ago and it ran with 100% fun speed once in the game. Thermals looked fine, but when I checked the hot-spot, it was at 107°C. I opened the card and found out, that only half the chip was covered in thermal paste. Re-pasted it and it workes fine.

@darkchaosclanat Год назад

100% fun speed :D

@crisnmaryfam7344 Год назад

LOL sadly this could have been a factory goof as easily as someones failed attempt to repaste.

@co8wei Год назад

Same experience with buying a used 3070. Hotspot temperatures were off the charts. Ended up repasting followed by swapping the thermal pads. Works fine now.

@TexelGuy Год назад

This is a common issue with heavily used or older cards. My 2060 (which I bought new in 2019) also started to develop this hotspot issue. A good high viscosity thermal paste should bring any used GPU to original speeds easily and keep hotspot temps under control. Just apply the thermal paste well, as in don't be afraid to use too much. Direct on-die paste application (Like on GPUs) needs to be really thorough, and using too much paste is much better than using too little in this case.

@martininsley5041 Год назад

Which is why they sold it, they didn't know how to fix it and wanted to make a quick buck, you got to reap the rewards of their ignorance

@assetaden6662 Год назад

I always try to sell my used stuff instead of throwing them away, and I definitely will return the money if the product I sold didn't work (that's why I sell locally). The last i7 3770 I sold found its new owner and continues to live a happy life of crunching numbers. And I always encourage people to buy used, even helping them by visiting the seller and doing tests. You better save damn landfills.

@Phantogram2 Год назад

I tend to save my older stuff in case newer stuff dies and I need replacement, but then they get so old it's not even worth it to sell lol

@NoseMain Год назад

imo 2nd hand products are way underrated

@thepierre396 11 месяцев назад

@@Phantogram2 I mean, the dude managed to sell a 2014 CPU, so I'm pretty sure your stuff would still find a buyer

@ryant2568 Год назад

The Eagle OC is also a discount card to begin with so not as surprising that it was the one that failed. Fortunately, as you said, eBay has a great buyer protection scheme so all you lose is a bit of shipping time.

@ryant2568 Год назад

@@kyleeaster1214 Yea I imagine 99.9% are probably totally fine. As Linus said, gaming is actually harder on a card than mining because of the constant boosting. Similar to a car engine which takes far more ware from stop-start driving than it does from long highway miles.

@koloved1 Год назад

@@ryant2568 not true , when you re miming the Vram are used more than enough

@ZaPpaul Год назад

@@koloved1 Yes but he means that it is constant power use so there is no boosting up and down continually, which is better for durability.

@enermaxstephens1051 Год назад

Is this typically the case with Gigabyte brand cards? Are they known for being less reliable?

@vitor900000 Год назад

That Eagle OC most likely only have 1 bad memory IC. Its a easy repair for a electronics repair shop. If you do the diagnose yourself and find with IC is the bad one and just ask for the chip replacing service, the repair guy will probably not ask for much since its a 5mins~15mins job. You will have to bring your own replacement part or pay for the part to the repair shop if they have it available. Repair shops usually don't provide repair warranty in those cases.

@jubul666 Год назад

I know it may not be the easiest thing to actually produce but if you want to encourage people to buy used its a perfect time to bring back scrapyard wars! You can even get lab involved to run some more in depth testing on the systems you build

@ElTeeger Год назад

I would love this.

@Throck58 Год назад

PLEASE LINUS MAKE IT HAPPEN!

@DylRicho Год назад

Yes please.

@ventilate4267 Год назад

it would have to be with people from labs secret shopper style as linus and luke are too popular

@proscriptus Год назад

Scrapyard Wars is one of my favorite things ever on RU-vid

@mintagenart Год назад

I recently bought a used GPU that ended up working like brand new. Should be noted that there are used computer shops that receive used GPUs, and test and repair them before redistributing. They will charge little extra for their work saving these cards, but it can make buying used a lot less of a headache while still being heaps cheaper than brand new.

@3usakaka705 Год назад

where

@justjack3075 Год назад

Hardware degrades and there is no way it worked like brand new. You did not have brand new one to compare with therefore such claim is very misleading. Not to mention warranty ,)

@ghaviorizky3961 Год назад

@@justjack3075 i think he meant the performance is like brand new, a new gpu or a used one will perform the same if the used one have the same condition (in terms of cleanliness)

@conkcreet Год назад

Every single gpu I’ve bought has been off marketplace ( gtx 970 and a gtx 1080 sea hawk) and never had a prob problem

@andrikurniawan531 Год назад

In my country used GPU from repair shop is big no, better buy from personal user

@Oc3anMaster Год назад

I've literally been waiting for this video for so long, thank god it came. I've ran a few multiple mined cards for awhile now and never had issues with GPU issues and overall performances. I always knew that it was way blown out of proportion of how bad 'mined' cards are. Honestly just make sure it's a good brand with a decent warranty and one that is transferrable and you will be fine.

@KiotheCloud Год назад

Sadly not all share ur same opinion i bought 3 different gpus (for mining)(3 different sellers) all of them didnt last a month one died in 1 week you might think its must be something else but i went to a asus store bought a brand new one its still running now 5 years now on the same rig that broke those used gpu

@iankrauss4315 Год назад

I hope you guys now do a follow up video on this performing the same tests after a proper maintainance to each GPU with a good clean, quality TIM and pads and stock vbios. Ive some nice improvements after doing this to mined gpus

@BDenes24 Год назад

I worked at a gaming PC manufacturer as quality control/repair and noticed a consistent issue with Eagle branded cards from gigabyte. Fresh out of the box there was a 15c variance between the ones that ran coolest and the ones that ran hottest. The cool ones ran around 80, hot ran 95c. Just avoid gigabyte Eagle cards new or used.

@volvo09 Год назад

I remember hearing miners disliking the eagle cards too.

@ruf3st Год назад

Good rule of thumb, but its especially true for Eagle/Vision/Gaming series ones. Early 30xx series cards came with horrible thermal pads out of the box and throttled from day one. Oh and they leaked oil all over...

@itsvan5791 Год назад

Thanks for the tips 👍

@sunbleachedangel Год назад

Oh Gigabyte

@MJSGamingSanctuary Год назад

I've always said you can judge generally a GPU manufactures quality by the size the heat sink is and how much it actually contacts where the die is located. More heatsink especially in newer cards is almost 99.9999999% better than less. People are always constantly like WHY do you stick with high end GPU manufactures like EVGA that clearly go overboard with their manufacturing. Well I'd rather pay a premium for something that is constructed a premium than pay a premium price for something that is clearly just scalping the already low end side of the market. Another way of saying this is you get what you pay for.

@BrendanGeormer Год назад

Something to note about the part near the end where it was mentioned that you weren't buying especially savvy, I think it's important to consider that not everyone knows the warning signs for buying used, like if they show photos of the fans or it plugged in vs out in hand, or if they show benchmarks or anything else. A novice might think anything they see with just 1 image is good enough and end up getting duped. Hopefully they can get their money back through buyer protection through ebay in such a case, but it would turn a lot of people away from buying used because they just don't want to deal with the hassle of return shipping, even if they get the money back, only to have to try again after just getting burnt.

@DavidNgo86 Год назад

Yup

@ovflowd Год назад

This is a really good comment

@Lodinn Год назад

That's the biggest obstacle for me. And being slightly grossed out by using other people's stuff, I guess. Having it in your place feels almost like having them as roommates, at least given they apparently often don't get it in pristine condition prior to selling. So I tend to use things until they completely die on me, but refrain from buying used, unless from friends. It also seems there are more people who only buy new than there are people who only buy used, so we have large amounts of unnecessary waste, which is sad. Refurb programs might have helped with it, not sure why we do not have more of them at big brick-and-mortar retailers. It would be so much easier to buy used knowing a trained team has checked the part, cleaned it, supplied missing screws and whatnot.

@byTomi 8 месяцев назад

As spanish-speaker I recommend you guys changing the audio track, the AI you used sounds very very robotic and it's out of sync

@Nostalgia_Realm Год назад

Thanks for this video! I've had the same experience buying used. As long as you're not buying something that is at the end of its lifecycle, say from less than 8 years ago, you should be good most of the time. Still rocking a second-hand R7 260x for light gaming and bought an open-box 165Hz MSi monitor recently that was also completely fine. Plus saves you a ton of money! I had most of my issues is when buying hardware for ancient computers, such as a Pentium III build I restored a while back.

@badonpurpose8930 Год назад

my wife bought an ex-mining 3060 ti and not a single problem with it. i'll admit i was doubtful at first, but she gets flawless performance and this video put the rest of my worries to rest. big fan of the points you made about preventing e-waste by buying used

@bipbop3121 Год назад

I'm not a big fan of his blaming someone not buying, than scum who would ewaste a gpu, instead of selling lower or giving freely to a good home or even bare minimum selling to an ecycler.

@drkastenbrot Год назад

mining gpus are usually treated really well

@tariqadwan2760 Год назад

i bought a 3060 ti tuf used for almost 40% less of the new one and oh man it got 0 problems and I saved money even it still got the plastic rap I still got the satisfaction of the new one

@ZaPpaul Год назад

Miners need flawless performing cards to mine 24/7. They tend to look after them to keep them clean and cool. There's little reason for them to not be in great order as one that doesn't work well can bring down the whole rig causing all the other cards to stop mining, losing them money. I would personally actively seek out a card from a mining rig to use.

@Freestyle80 Год назад

but miners are evil hurr duurrr

@sarugesh5753 Год назад

I bought a GPU from a miner, he was very chill and gave me a great deal and lots of info about how he ran his cards such as clock speed and etc... At the end I got a 3060 TI and till this day it's one of the best deals ever!

@pbpx Год назад

I grabbed a 3090 from a miner and it was in flawless condition. Honestly they probably took better care of it than most gamers do.

@eddilicious3025 Год назад

@@pbpx Most miners take care of their GPU better than gamers, it is regularly cleaned, and keep in a cool environment to ensure the GPU's running at it's best mining ability

@juandelgado9477 Год назад

@@eddilicious3025 Plus, most miners undervolt their gpus due to rising energy cost. Compared to some gamers that overclock them.

@RafitoOoO Год назад

@@juandelgado9477 exactly. Miners have all the financial incentives to keep their money printing machines running as long as they can lol.

@quikstartguide Год назад

I bought the same one from a miner too. Great card.

@arizonawatermelon123 Год назад

When buying used gpu I’d say the most common consideration is adding cost of new fans. Most I’ve bought the fans were operable but bearings started making scratchy noises even after lubing.

@brad8122 Год назад

Those Mofos never oil the shafts. Then without oil the bearing literally eats into the shaft. Too late oiling is not gonna solve anything. Think about what would happen to a car engine lacking oil.

@FcoEnriquePerez Год назад

You can't imagine how much tankful I am for this video, and I don't even sell GPUs, but I do buy them, always second hand since my last new purchase that was a 480 when GPU prices were fair. And I've never had a problem buying used GPUs, like you said, is about knowing how to do it, and knowing the reality about GPUs life span and degradation.

@RampantLeaf Год назад

I've been using a second hand mining EVGA GTX 1060 for a number of years now, and it's never let me down. Will replace it eventually since it's having more trouble running 1080p 60fps at high on newer games, but I'd say I definitely got my $100 worth back in 2018.

@omgpickle Год назад

You got it for a reasonable price. Linus paid 20% less compared to new. Without warranty.

@granolafunk6192 Год назад

@@omgpickle 20% new, at the time they were new. Priced to inflation and that doubles. Even the 3060, new, is over 20% more adjusted for inflation. They are STILL selling for over $450 new and they are almost 2 years old at this point.

@bland9876 Год назад

3GB of VRAM is strange. Should have had 8 like other cards.

@RampantLeaf Год назад

@@bland9876 I agree. That's why I have the 6GB version.

@credelle Год назад

I also have a 1060 6gb zotac amp, bought used back in 2019, still working fine, the owner sold because he wanted an amd card, the card was 6 months old at the time i bought and still had a year and a half of warranty

@StevenAlTorres Год назад

Buying second hand is always a risk. But it’s also the best option for many budget setups

@ACEcrafter77 Год назад

Yeah but it's never as big of a risk as people make it seem to be. As long as you know what to look for and can find a seller that's willing to communicate and run tests, you should be fine for the most part.

@hermityt1663 Год назад

Not just budget setups these days. There isn't a new card on the market I would buy because of the prices, so used is the only way to go.

@p.informatico1320 Год назад

@@ACEcrafter77 It depends of the procedence of the hardware you are buying... I wouldn't buy a card knowing than it have been running high loads non-stop for a year...

@HappyBeezerStudios Год назад

I've bought used parts before and never had an issue with any of them. Even the CPU & motherboard that are running with a 25% overclock for 5 years now. Or my old GPU that I ran with 20% for nearly 8 years without issues. Might be an outlier, but when you are careful, you should be fine buying used.

@dumdum93 Год назад

Yeah I was really glad that I could buy a 1 year old 3080 for a little over $400.

@gigazordx Год назад

I totally support this. This past year I've got great deals on used GPUs from FB marketplace that have gone in my PC, as well as builds for friends and family. All still running just fine.

@M1szS Год назад

thanks for this video, i had no idea the difference in perfomance was so small, especially when the used gpus are no joke x2 cheaper then new ones

@bencehorvath1547 Год назад

I have bought a used gpu because of Linus's opinion about the chance of getting great deals. I was searching for it for 2 month and originally i was looking for a 3070ti new or a 3080 used. I had to stretch my budget an extra 80 dollars but it was worth it... I got a 3090 (ofc used) with even 1,5 years of warranty left. I not only managed to find a great deal but found a great heater for my room. So just thanks for giving me the courage to go to the used market!

@summushieremiasclarkson4700 Год назад

Warranties don't transfer to used GPUs, but yeah that's a good deal.

@TrashStash Год назад

@@summushieremiasclarkson4700 Did you not watch the whole video?

@BookWormXtreme Год назад

@@summushieremiasclarkson4700 It depends on manufacturer warranty T&C I believe, and varies per company. Some just need serial number to claim warranty, some need the receipt so it's a case by case kinda deal. EVGA was good about this I think.

@ARTala88 Год назад

Great. That about the heater was a bit funny hehe

@summushieremiasclarkson4700 Год назад

@@lucidnonsense942 I was saying that for legal reasons. No manufacturer here in The US fights a warranty claim as long as you present proof of purchase. I know this for a fact.

@chris-C8 Год назад

As someone who just got into PC gaming within the last year, videos like this help tremendously. You've given us the tools and knowledge needed to purchase used PC components confidently (within reason, obviously).

@Karthex Год назад

I buy used or open box GPUs all the time, great way to save money and the lemons are generally rare. The only GPUs I've bought brand new were low end cards for extra monitors,a R7 580 on launch, and a Radeon HD 3850 AGP as the thing wasn't very common even at the time.

@discipleofdagon8195 Год назад

Ahhh open box.... *Flashback to Steve from Gamers Nexus with Newegg selling him a mobo they themselves tried to RMA with mashed LGA pins, didn't want to pay Gigiabyte 100 dollars and then put it back on the shelves as open box*

@shady4071 10 месяцев назад

Why do u buy all the time?

@kone6295 Год назад

After watching videos taking about the used market. I bought a used 6800 XT, 12700k, Asus Tuf z690-plus, Evga 850w, and TForce Tuf gaming 16 Gb Ram. I paired all this with a new case, cpu cooler, and nvme ssd. I ended up saving about 30 percent vs new. I use this for gaming daily and it works great.

@danvelopment Год назад

This is an awesome video, the subject matter is an actual service to everyday consumers. Lots of videos are cool and interesting but this one is an actual value creator. I particularly liked the "it's faulty, don't fix it, send it back to the seller, not your problem".

@rexyoshimoto4278 Год назад

I agree with "if the product fails it would be within a 2 week period". I use to buy audio equipment that were floor models. If a product had been running for three weeks to a month, chances are component failure was well past the burn-in period. It would last indefinitely if it has no moving parts. What a good tech tip!😄

@lareponse42 Год назад

Depending on where you live, you may find second hand specialized shops that re-sell used GPUs after having them tested. I saw on a local store every box having a little paper sheet indicating that every video output works, that FurMark passes for more than 5mn, some reassuring stuff. Also, shops like these often have some return policy in case things go south (ranging from 1 week to a few months).

@LadBooboo Год назад

That 2080ti I bought for ~507usd just before the lockdowns, the 30 series release and everything went out of stock was one of the better deals I had in the last few years. Gotta thank FOMO for that one.

@Eggs-n-Jakey Год назад

Same man the exact same deal for me because everyone thought they were going to be worthless. Got like 2 and a half years of heavy gaming out of it before I got artifacts. Warzone 2 had something to do with it though lol

@RussellGraf Год назад

This is the kind of work I look forward to from the lab. Good work

@mbwh1582 Год назад

I got an EVGA 1080ti SC2 hybrid just before the 30 series launch, used for €350, fantastic card for a fantastic price, still my main card and will be for years to come. So far I've bought about 15 used GPU's in my life, and I never had issues with any of them. Worst case scenario they needed some cleaning.

@DanStarTheFirst Год назад

Haven't bought a new gpu since my EVGA 980 SC reference in 2014 (still runs 1612Mhz OC w modded bios) 2 EVGA titan x maxwells (ran hot af cause reference coolers) and 2 EVGA 1080ti FTW3s, one 1080ti was brand new and not a lottery card ~2030Mhz but said used (never taken apart no sag and super low thermals) and the other had a decent amount of vape residue has a decent amount of sag and runs a bit warmer and needs thermal pads as they kind of disintegrated, but it OCs to 2088Mhz haven't had a problem with a card yet period. Oh and a EVGA 970 SC that I got off a buddy free and it doesn't OC at all even with a modded bios

@zyroxian7337 Год назад

i know you guys made a "how to buy used" guide for computer components, but I would like to see an updated one for those who are either terrified of buying used or would like to, but doesn't know the best way to do it safely with the lowest, realistic, risk of being swindled.

@muscularclassrepresentativ5663 Год назад

Buy from a PC parts company that has tested their products or buy on eBay and return if anything is wrong with it.

@nixvaldez Год назад

Hasn't changed much

@haiderzaidi5218 Год назад

Buying a used gpu is never a bad idea if you’re careful enough!

@serdarcam99 Год назад

i bought used 1070 3 years ago and its still kicks 4ss in 1080p

@kalestra4198 Год назад

You’re*

@Dizzy... Год назад

@@kalestra4198 L grammar police

@joemarais7683 Год назад

And being careful enough only requires taking a few extra minutes to vet an eBay listing and seller, or spending a few minutes testing a marketplace thing instead of just taking it and assuming it’s fine. Buying a used gpu is just a bad idea if you’re lazy.

@keksauce Год назад

@@pdblouin then buy new. i think 20% off is an amazing discount as most electronics really dont just up and fail especially after use. and if its obviously not as advertized then return it if possible

@thatonefoxxy Год назад

My mom is still not convinced.

@hasnihossainsami8375 Год назад

I got a second hand 6700XT for around $240 just a few weeks ago, played a few heavy games and honestly it's perfectly functional. I put it in a sff case so I didn't go ham on the overclocking, but it seems to run at factory spec without issue and after a slight undervolt it's still performing great. All I did was a dust cleanup and repaste after I got it. It's crazy how efficient this card is, even on a synthetic max load it doesn't cross 200W. Typical gaming load sees around 160-170W.

@seku_- Год назад

I bought a 3070 for £312 (it was £340, but i used my nectar points) just after Christmas and it works great. I also sell used parts often as a side hustle and I always offer to do benchmarks on any game that i own. Good seller rating also helps you sell more stuff in the long-term for even higher prices because it indicates that you're a trustworthy seller.

@KeitaroTsurugi Год назад

Hey, I-m probably not in your area of operations, but I still want to thank you for trying to be as transparent of a seller as I can imagine one to be, glad to see someone taking care of and finding a new home for less than new parts that still have a life to live.

@jk7878 Год назад

Hiw did you get a 3070 for only £312

@seku_- Год назад

@@jk7878 eBay, of course.

@scottsmanonahorse Год назад

I'm excited to see how the labs are going to preserve hard data to compare with in the future.

@Vegemeister1 Год назад

Preserving the data doesn't work. Software changes too much, and GPU code is compiled on your machine by the GPU driver, so the current driver version is part of the product. The only proper approach is to keep physical hardware and have enough test benches and automation that you can collect new data whenever a new product comes out.

@ItsJoLapo Год назад

@@Vegemeister1 This guy gets it, and his point stands twofold in Nvidia's case. At this stage in the game, they're just as much a software company as they are a component manufacturer, and it isn't uncommon to see one of their drivers wickedly change the performance of certain cards on a case by case basis, sometimes to a benefit and others to a detriment, even years after a card's initial release.

@silver_ Год назад

Honestly Linus, I'm glad you did this because I have my coworkers constantly saying to me but what if it was used for mining whenever we are testing cards to buy in at work, the amount of times I've told them that a mining GPU is more likely to be better kept than a gaming one is unreal. Maybe if I show them this they might chill about it :')

@WildWolfGaming54 Год назад

While on my quest to watch all of the LTT videos on the channel (I'm finally on the newer videos lol) to see if Linus will hook me up with a Gundam 3080 >.> or at least a new mouse... I have been sketched out buying a used GPU but after seeing this I gotta say being knowledgeable in this helped me out in the used GPU market and I did not think to use these tools. Thank you for this !!

@jardiwester8704 Год назад

really starting to notice the labs effects, and i'm liking it! being able to test so many things in a small amount of time makes the video so much less of a rant but more of a evidence based essay.

@Choochinc Год назад

As you said, constant heat and power usage within spec almost doesn't wear components at all. It's heat cycling that does as it causes microscopic expansion and contraction which will crack solder joints over time.

@Fizzer99 Год назад

Yep. Which is the reason why (apart from running 24/7 games servers) my pc is on 24/7.

@RicochetForce Год назад

@@TheTastefulThickness And the person that invents materials that are utterly resistant or immune to heat cycling wear is going to be wealthy beyond words. We'd effectively have equipment that could last orders of magnitude longer.

@wanderingwobb6300 Год назад

Many PS3s and Xbox 360s are crying out from the grave from the mere mention of heat cycling.

@HappyBeezerStudios Год назад

And not only the heat cycles but the fact that gaming cycles tend to run hotter and with more power than consistent mining loads.

@Malicious2013 Год назад

@@RicochetForce Vehicle manufacturers intentionally don't build vehicles that'll last indefinitely. It's been determined by scientists that cars that will almost never break are absolutely doable with current tech, but planned obsolescence keeps new innovation and new purchases going forward.

@ThePolaris87 Год назад

Thanks a lot for this video LTT team!

@garrettrinquest1605 Год назад

I've been waiting for this video for a while. Glad it's finally here!

@WespectRamen Год назад

All of my pc parts were bought used ever since my first pc, besides storage which can be more sketchy. Only when I got my 3080ti new, I wanted to buy an O11D XL new aswell. There are risks in everything. However, I also encourage buying used like Linus for all the same reasons he listed. I havent personally used Ebay, but that buyer protection seems like a pretty solid risk mitigation. Loved the video! I just wish scrapyard wars could be a viable series again 😔

@daltonschrader8328 Год назад

Same here. I buy alot on ebay with extended warranties.

@reynaldiwidjaja277 Год назад

Same I always buy used after buying my first parts back in 2014 FX 4130 & 650 Ti Boost 💀

@WespectRamen Год назад

@@reynaldiwidjaja277 nicee haha. My first build was FX 6300 and R9 380 4GB... what a POS lol

@tobiwonkanogy2975 Год назад

I will never mainline used storage but perfectly acceptable to check it with S.M.A.R.T. software and use it for media. If you regularily kills your operating system for fresh installs , can be more acceptable or raid as the back up .

@deancameronkaiser Год назад

I would rather buy new sorry I just can't buy a card that I don't know how long it will last or the condition of the components either.

@PeterR0035 Год назад

Bought 2 watercooled cards just before covid that were clearly used for mining; Nvidia 1080 TI and AMD Vega 64. I repasted them and +3 years later they still run perfect. Big Thank you Linus for your care about the environment regarding E-waste!

@Mat383 Год назад

11:56 I was thinking that about Linus for the longest time, it's great to hear him acknowledging it.

@chironpictures Год назад

Thanks for all the great video! As someone who's been restoring vintage computers for over 15 years I can tell you that leaky capacitors can smell like fishy vinegar. Now I don't think these GPU cards are old enough to have leaky capacitors... however... if they were baking inside a very hot computer case for a long time that might accelerate the aging process. I know that bad capacitors are more likely to be found in a vintage computer near hot places like inside a hard working part of a power supply. So although it's unlikely that the vinegar smell Linus found in this video means leaky capacitors, it's not impossible, and I'd say that any used electronics with a bad smell is a bad sign.

@LuckyDarms Год назад

I had bought a used 3070 Ti, $400. Unfortunately, it did have a major problem that resulted in it "crapping out under 3d load". However, Asus RMA agreed and sent me a new one, and with how easy that process was (sans the price of shipping) I'd say it worked out way better than expected.

@kubo407 Год назад

I would love to see a similar deep dive into buying used phones too! This is a great video and I will definitely look at buying second hand instead of waiting indefinitely for new hardware I can't afford.

@TheTtmx Год назад

Used phones have the issue of the battery being degraded, but otherwise, its the same deal. If you replace the battery, the phone is likely as good as it was when new.

@randomblock1_ Год назад

GPUs can fail in a lot of ways, and it's not always obvious. But a phone either works or it doesn't, the only part that wears is the battery and those are easily replaced.

@crisnmaryfam7344 Год назад

@@randomblock1_ The screen, case, water proof seal, speakers and mic, all wear too. Though some of those wear so slow many people replace the device before it fails. Much of this depends on personal use cases too.

@ItsJoLapo Год назад

The biggest downside in the phone resale market going forward is the mass adoption of OLED screens imo. Don't get me wrong, I love my 120hz OLED and wouldn't have it any other way, but show me a single Samsung user who doesn't have their carrier/battery icon/clock at least partially burnt into the top of their screen after they've had that bad boy for 2-3 years. Not extremely noticeable, but definitely another hurdle to overcome and box to check off when inspecting a used phone for potential purchase, and something to take into consideration if selling a used phone with an OLED screen. Also to those saying battery is the only thing that can degrade in a cellular, it isn't 2008, there's a lot on higher-end phones that can wear and tear beyond the battery. OLED screens, OIS motors in your camera, gyroscope and accelerometer, vibration motor, speakers, etc. These are all moving parts that are subject to wear and tear and WILL degrade the more they are used.

@manuelwie Год назад

@@ItsJoLapo I would expect there to be a setting to turn off the screen completely if you so wanted, right? i mean, no need to keep those things on the screen when the phone is just laying there unused, anyways.

@michalkana9764 Год назад

I bought used ROG Strix RX480 almost year ago for 90 dollars at auction and it is still running in my gaming pc to this day. I couldn´t be happier with the purchase. Buying used GPUs is great way to get reasonably powerful cards for cheap.

@gavizcool268 6 месяцев назад

You throwing that gpu absolutely killed my soul and I almost didn’t come back from it

@g4ric Год назад

I watched your videos constantly and couldn't help myself but think 'how hard could it be to build a pc' so i gave myself a challenge and bought not only a gpu, but cpu, RAM, power supply, all second hand. Up until now everything works as it should and and within the spec. So far so good 👍

@Google_Does_Evil_Now Год назад

Well done you! Can I ask what spec you went for please? Purely out of curiosity. And how did the build go? I did a used upgrade last year. New CPUs and motherboards are coming out so I guess the ones that were about three generations old might be getting sold secondhand as the people are buying new CPUs which were worth an upgrade. Richer people can do this. I got a i7 9700k, mobo, RAM and a small cheap SSD for £300. I had what I've done an upgrade for about 9 years because I thought I would have to reinstall all my software and windows. But there's a very simple workaround. There are some 5-minute RU-vid videos if someone's interested. Basically you uninstall the motherboard drivers and turn off the computer. Then you put that hard drive from the old motherboard CPU into the new computer motherboard CPU combo and switch it back on. All your stuff is on that hard drive and it will talk to the new CPU motherboard combo boot into Windows ok. Wedding windows just install the new drivers as needed. No software needed to be changed! I think this is something that should be promoted by AMD and Intel because it put me off spending a lot of money with them cuz I thought I would have to reinstall all my software.

@bipbop3121 Год назад

This is the point of the video. For people to get better values. Unfortunately, it also contained some gross blame in the wrong direction.

@internziko Год назад

That's awesome bro. God bless it

@strato_5459 Год назад

Thats what we love to hear. Glad it worked out for you

@g4ric Год назад

@@Google_Does_Evil_Now Glad to hear that. I went for all AMD bc in my region it's significantly cheaper than Intel/Nvidia counterparts for example Intel i5 6th gen is more than double the price of the Ryzen 5 5000 series, so i went with Asus a320 prime MB (new), Ryzen 5 5500 cpu, RX 580 8GB, crucial ballistix 16GB kit 3000MHz, and thermaltake 450w power supply.

@GSBarlev Год назад

0:44 "Rescue GPU" is the perfect way to think about it. Had a hard life working in the Ether mines up to this point, probably in a cramped and overcrowded datacenter, forced to work 24 hours a day, all while never rendering a frame of video, until it was no longer needed, unceremoniously yanked out the only home it had ever known, and put on the auction block. Least you can do is give it a good home. A nice mid-tower with good airflow, some RGB to keep the nightmares at bay when you've got it idling. Maybe take it on a nice cross-country drive in Euro Truck Simulator every now and again...

@Matthew-dp3hf Год назад

I really appreciate this video because for a long time I believed that graphics cards that get a lot of use would slowly become worse. I just don't feel like there's enough concrete information out there that isn't just anecdotal stories on forums.

@brendanblack8647 Год назад

That's not entirely true. There is plenty of concrete information about any pc part from CPUs to power supplies and graphics cards degrading over time at high use. All this video shows that there's not much different in cards that are a couple years old, they aren't old enough to have a difference, however a 10 series card or rx580s or rx480s would show a difference in the same testing. Not something he explained and really should have, this video is only relevant to previous gen cards and nothing 5 years plus older

@raed21093 Год назад

@@brendanblack8647 im planning to buy an rx 580 thats been used for around 2 to 3 years should i be concerned?

@shady4071 10 месяцев назад

@@raed210933 years is worrying.

@dadgum677 Год назад

Great video! You are spot on about buying really any used item...GPU...full computer...car...etc. And many new items aren't guaranteed to be problem free...GPU...full computer...car...etc.

@JaguarInfinity Год назад

I recently picked up an XFX 6700XT Merc for a little over 50% MSRP (so who knows how much less than it was purchased for originally) and I think it may have been a mining card with one of the fans sounding like it's on it's way out. However it's working great, a reapplication of thermal paste has improved the thermals and a new set of fans are on their way from China, I'm really happy with the value and performance I've gotten.

@Nerex7 Год назад

Yea, the only thing that usually breaks down for good is the fans. I got a Zoac 3070 which is already known for it's bad fans (and fan bearing sounds), but so far it's working. If one of those breaks down, I'll either order a net set for around 30€ or I might to some experimenting with slamming noctua fans on it.

@Ulyessaable Год назад

I recently bought a 2060 12gb brand new, and that was DOA. Hell, if you can get a benchmark or even better a video of the card running from the seller, you're in good shape. It really made me rethink the used market.

@sanaltdelete Год назад

Almost everything in my pc, except for its SSDs, PSU and case, are used components. My laptop is used, my VR headset is used. Even my phone is used. It all pretty much works like new. Great video!

@josevazquez5622 4 месяца назад

I like buying used stuff idk why 😅

@ethanwetzel7 Год назад

This is the kind of content I really enjoy getting the LTT production value bump.

@R3AL-AIM Год назад

11:50 Yes, that's exactly what we are not going to do. Lol

@JitHster Год назад

Impressive test! Good work! Cool video! Kudos to the LTT team

@ZaPpaul Год назад

If you buy a mined card, the sensible thing to do is to strip it down and replace the existing thermal paste and pads with good quality parts. This will be better than factory and will ensure the card stays cool. The other thing to watch is the fans, if they are noisy or if they have too much resistance when turning manually or feel gritty, replace them. I have purchased ex mining cards and haven't had a single problem in the past 5 years and 4 cards. I've saved myself a decent amount of money and wouldn't hesitate to buy a mined on card in the future. In fact I would actively search for them to buy.

@JayBigDadyCy 6 месяцев назад

Was thinking the same. There's no reason to not at least repaste and pad it. Only takes like 20-30 minutes and will likely save you a headache.

@freaky32323 Год назад

Over the years I bought a 1080 and a 3080ti for myself, and iirc a 980ti and a 2060 when building PCs for friends, all of them used, saving me (and my buddies) quite a few bucks. All of them are still working fine after several years.

@Parodeyz Год назад

I would love a follow-up video with long-term testing. To see if the aggregate failure rate of the used GPUs (over what would be a typical new-card warranty period) exceeds the ~ %20 discount.

@RDJ1SS Год назад

I'd say by the time they fail, they already couldn't keep up with modern software.

@enriquedossantos3283 Год назад

@@TotallySlapdash for cards that where used to mine ETH the memory suffers, especially if they where overclocked, but if the miner was concious didnt overclock much, undervolted to keep temps down and took proper care of the cards, there is no reason for that card to not last 3 to 4 years as a gaming card, ive been gaming on a 1080 for around three years now, and i mined 24 7 with it for three years prior to that, still mine with it on the background when not playing

@tiarkrezar Год назад

The lack of significant discount is exactly why I don't buy used GPUs. They have some of the shortest expected lifespans of all components, on par with hard drives. If I'm buying something without a 2 year warranty that's essentially had its lifespan cut in half, it better be seriously cheap.

@tihruytssgjjvsavcxtbvhj3429 Год назад

No need. I have owned 50+ gpus over 11+ years of mining and gaming. I have seen ZERO failures.

@Google_Does_Evil_Now Год назад

Mining GPUs probably fail less often than gaming ones because they're not running extreme temperatures and they don't have the power cycles that gamers put their cards through. With an average 22% discount that means every fourth or fifth card is free.

@whitebeaner13 Год назад

Recently bought a used 3060 ti founders edition off Ebay for a decent price. Came looking brand new but made sure to extensively test it to make sure its working as should before the return exchange is voided. Videos like these are a great help for people who are thinking about taking the plunge on a used product.

@jvivlemore Год назад

Love to see MSFS in the benchmarks here. Hoping they continue to use that title going forward.

@Serveck Год назад

It's the only game that even stresses my 3070ti on ultra. Everyone talked down about this model.

@KillahMate Год назад

@@thealien_ali3382 Nvidia came to their senses and started selling 3080s with 12GB - but _way_ too late. As you said, it should have been 12 from the start. But I think if you're running a 1440p screen and use DLSS Quality, 10GB is still OK.

@MiGujack3 Год назад

single core unoptimized piece of garbage

@Serveck Год назад

@@KillahMate been running 1440 on my 3070ti just fine mostly because it has the upgraded gddr6x memory. 4k may strain it in certain cases.

@aabouncer Год назад

Would love to see scrapyard wars come back. That was always a fun series to watch

@thorstenwanoth6774 Год назад

nice one Linus & Co - this vid gave me reason to try MSI Kombustor on my 2016 1050 ti today. With a bit of overclocking was pushing RX580 limits here in the 835 marks territory on Kombustor mark. My 1050 ti now lives on in the HP 3rd gen office PC I "rescued" when my 2011 i3 crapped out. I have to be on a budget here in SA. The recently reconfigured PC station plays most games at medium to high settings at 1080P. I would buy a used (even mining) GPU. Mine has paid for itself 2 x over in 2021 and still works as intended in 2023. You just have to treat it well and keep temps down to reasonable levels.

@xxCross2 Год назад

I had considered purchasing miner cards in the past but was worried about any performance dip. This video helps demystify and debunk some past concerns and moving forward I'll be more open to consider used/mined cards. Thanks Linus! 👍

@yuxuanhuang3523 Год назад

The performance dip is not a issue, the cards dying within weeks of purchase is. Especially after seeing all the images of "card refurbishing" I would consider every second-hand card as being mined heavily and likely to die. However if it is in bulk, like for a rendering farm, where a few dead cards would still make everything profitable, then I would go for used cards.

@justuseodysee7348 Год назад

One of the best videos you made. Thank you for covering this subject

@julianneEVdmca Год назад

thanks Linus! great video and honesty really useful. i hope to see more video like this❤

@paddyodoors2757 Год назад

Excellent video, all my cards have been used since my 8400gs

@dannyvanderheide6098 Год назад

Honestly, I loved this video for the sincerity and amount of information. I bought a used (still in warranty) 2070 Super during the pandemic but between the 30 series announcement and launch. This card has ran basically anything I have thrown at it and the only reason for me to consider upgrading would be to get a card with more Vram. But, using a Corsair 380T which wouldn't support thicker cards I am still not gonna upgrade any time soon. (Even if I had the money.)

@WitchMedusa Год назад

I got a GTX 1080 TI, & before that I was using a 1060. My brother is still using a GTX 960 which is running fine for him. We play REALLY like games like Valorant, Roblox, CS:GO, & then more random stuff like Tekkit (an old minecraft modpack from 2011). So at this point we have ZERO need to upgrade based off what we play. I do play a bit more intense stuff from time to time like Rust or Teardown (hence the better GPU) but I try to buy the amount of power that I need.

@Jasta315 Год назад

I've pretty much only bought used GPUs. I just picked up a used 3090 from an Ethereum mining rig. It works perfect and I got it for less than 1/2 the normal price.

@compaqdeskpro5770 Год назад

The wallet with a screen at the beginning is pretty intreaguing, I want one.

@michaelmanning9028 Год назад

5/16/2023 I got a EVGA 3080 and am just getting ready to install it, this show has been SO VERY HELPFUL, I'm a console gamer so I'm basically ignorant, all the tips and advice have been incredibly useful, thanks so much!!!

@USSHammerology Год назад

Hi Linus. Thanks to you and your team for all the hard work.

@delphitek1 Год назад

A version of this video with motherboards would be great!

@amarkothari2059 Год назад

Hey Linus! Your the goat! Thank you for all the advice over the years and continuing to be an absolute unit in how you and the LMG team disperse information that is just unbiased. Promoting Recycling in this System Integration space is huge, considering how much waste is involved from START, to FINISH. Good on you

@Bodwaizer Год назад

Recycling is a meme, they just dump everything in one garbage pile Not entirely sure about electronics tho

@TheUnofficialMaker Год назад

Goat: A domesticated ruminant mammal (Capra hircus) having backward curving horns and a beard in the male, raised for its wool, milk, and meat. Did you just insult Linus?-=

@michaelmiller3012 Год назад

I've gotten video cards off of eBay several times with no problems. I DO, however, disassemble the cooler, clean it, clean & re-paste the core, and check the thermal pads (replacing them if necessary). Most cards are fairly easy to disassemble and the hour you spend doing this is more-than-worth the peace of mind you gain from performing a thorough inspection upon receipt.

@2belowfreezing Год назад

Due in part to the video last year, I recently bought a used 6700XT for 400 CAD. The seller brought it to me and I ran a test on Furmark before buying. It's been working great and is a huge upgrade from my RX480

@ChrisSonPEI Год назад

That's a good deal.

@FFXfever Год назад

It's been consistently 400AUD in Australia as well. I never got one since I already got a 6600, but it tempts me every day I go to eBay. It's been half a year already since second hand 6700xt had stayed at that price.

@cocobos Год назад

And that RX480 is still a very capable card

@idlx420 Год назад

Wow massive upgrade, congrats

@ofresh333 Год назад

I got an RX 6600 XT (Sapphire Nitro+ edition) from a miner for 2.850.000 IDR (190 USD), and It works perfectly fine. Upgraded from RX 570 greatly saves my electricity bill! 😁Yes, on paper the TDP of these 2 cards are similar. But the game that I play only consumes ~45% load and 30 watts of power from RX 6600 XT, while on RX 570 it consumes 100% load and 130watts of power. Another funny thing is the fan of my RX 6600 XT is not even spinning! Because the temp doesn't reach 60 C while gaming. it makes my pc more silent.

@unclerubo Год назад

I only bought a used GPU once. It was a Vega 56 (Powercolor Red Dragon) and I knew it was very likely to come from a mining farm. It worked fine. For a year. Then not at all. I'm not saying this is what you should expect though, just sharing my extremely limited experience with used GPUs.

@dalzy25 Год назад

HBM cards(Vega 56/64, Radeon VII) are a special case. The HBM sustains some sort of unknown damage when mining which makes their failure rate very high compared to GDDR GPUs(GDDR6 seems to have increased failure rates as well, but not to the same extent.). But the worst part is HBM, being on package, is not replacable or repairable.

@Quivex1 Год назад

Just to add my own anecdotal experience, I bought a 1070ti (MSI Titanium) used on ebay after the first big crash in 2019 for an absolute steal, and almost exactly *4 years* later it's still serving me very well in my main system. A year ago I lost one of my display ports, but the card is 6 years old at this point so I think that's just normal wear. I plan to upgrade soon, probably to a used 3080, so I'll see if I can keep my good luck rolling! Sorry your experience was not quite as fortunate, but I thought I'd add a good one to offset the bad. As you said, mileage may vary, and that's just how it goes with used hardware. There's a reason why you're saving money! I've yet to be jaded by a used hardware purchase, and am happy to take on (what I see) as minimal risk.

@Mister-Tea Год назад

Yeah, but you are on a particular case. Vega use HBM memory which doesn't seem to age well, GDDR6X too seems to age like milk. But overall buying used is fine ! If you want a deeper dive, you can look at Buildzoid video about this, search for "Should you buy ex-mining GPUs?" on RU-vid. He explains in details what kind of models should be avoid or prioritise when you search for a second hand GPU. (be aware the guy ramble a lot, and doesn't edit, so his content is not as easy to watch as LTT XD)

@granolafunk6192 Год назад

The vegas and furys were just pushed to hard out of the box. The failure rate on AMD high end GPUs has been terrible since the 290s. At least in my experience, probably before. I had a 7950 that was a champ, but XFX and AMD has let me down quite a lot since then. Polaris and Navi were great, though. Polaris more than navi, but also not high end.

@mycelia_ow Год назад

Really depends on the age of the card. Not when it launched but when the seller first purchased it brand new. If you can get that information, never buy a used card well past its warranty, usually 3 years. I had a GTX 970 FTW just croak on me one day, literally right after the warranty expired 3 years after I purchased it new.

@gregziel Год назад

Bought a used 3070FE card and couldn’t be happier. Seller bought a corsair prebuilt and wanted a gpu upgrade to a 3080 so I got my card at $500 MSRP in July of 2022. This video offers great advice and you should not be scared of getting a used GPU. Ebay has great buyer protection so look out for a fair priced gpu so you can buy and then game away.

@NotReallyLaraCroft Год назад

This video is probably the most useful piece info about used GPUs in the whole internet

@EricLab97 Год назад

I don't have first hand experience with buying used gpu's but my 3700x that I got from ebay along with a B550 board have been running perfectly fine for the past year or so. Though I think my B550 board was brand new as this was during the newegg shuffle so people were probably just trying to offload the addons that was bundled with the gpu's

@greatgoofy Год назад

On "within spec", have you thought about creating a video on how much the fps and/or frametime have to change before being noticeable, whether absolute or relative? Could be interesting to see if 144 is more forgiving than 60.

@ThaJay Год назад

I believe that limit is somewhere between 80 and 110 fps. Really depends on the 1% low though, that's what you notice. Stable 60 fps is better than 80 with 40 on 1% low.

@Whitecobra08 Год назад

I managed to grab a cheap 3070ti off ebay. It was thermal throttling like crazy. Once opened up it was obvious it had been used for mining. Really fat thermal pads on all the memory chips - over twice the thickness of stock pads. Got some decent pads from amazon, replaced them and it's performing perfectly. Those fat pads were probably great for vram temps when mining - but really prevented the heatsink from making good contact with the gpu core itself

@luisbarvalopez Год назад

I bought an used 3080 gaming X trio for 640 (before taxes) on ebay in July 2022, It has a weird smell like cologne but it was perfectly fine on temps, noise, and visually, and it did great on tests. It is still running fine and I have no regrets at all.

@tamegaming1768 Год назад

This is a really important topic. I've been an advocate for used hardware since I started watching you/entered PC gaming in 2013, and although I didn't always buy used I wasn't ever afraid to. I've only gotten burned once (GTX 590) in 2014 ish and it stung, but every other used GPU and CPU I bought (10+?) Worked flawlessly. There's a reason reduce and re-use come before recycle. Thank you for making this!

@prrocker9637 Год назад

Tech yes city also had a solid recommendation for used cards typically if you can overclock 100mghz for both gpu and ram you can see the card still has life in it

@zero59267 11 месяцев назад

Got a used 6600xt with almost 2 years warranty left for $200. New ones still cost over $300 here. Previous owner said he only used it for engineering designs. Temperature looks pretty normal with GPU temp up to 64C and Junc temp up to 76C for heavy gaming like RDR2 at 1440p. Pretty happy with my purchase, I think I'm sticking to buying used cards in the future, I'm only upgrading after at least 1-2 generations anyway.

@PurpleKnightmare Год назад

I got my Strix 3070 lightly used for $400 months ago, and it works great. It even came with everything including the micro ruler keychain. I even was able to register it for Warranty.

@Sebthegamer9 Год назад

“My money bone” 😂😂😂

@KYSMO Год назад

I know this is uncommon in the US (and probably Canada), but in Europe it is very common and if you all push, it can become common - TEST electronics either at the seller's place, ask the seller to come to your place for testing, or agree to meet up somewhere where it can be tested, like a local computer repair shop. In the first two scenarios, make sure to have a portable testbench or ready up your own PC so that you can chug it in and test it with Furmark, GPUMemTest and Superposition. All these tests are for free and Superposition is good because you can set a custom resolution that is really high to max out the VRAM. GPUMemTest is good, but sometimes fails for no reason, especially on some specific models like the GTX 970 line. If the seller has no idea about benchmark software, ask them to at least start a somewhat intensive game like Assassin's Creed Odyssey or GTA V at really high settings. If you wanna test the card at a PC repair shop, offer them a little cash for their time and effort. You don't need to mention that it is a sale necessarily, just tell them you can not pinpoint the issue and would like to test the GPU for 5 minutes. There may be some PC parts donation organizations or similar at your place so maybe they would help you with that. Anyhow, I am no longer buying anything that I don't test personally, or where I know that the selling platform sides with the buyer by default. When selling used stuff, make sure to document the functionality with a lot of high quality photos, wide shots and closeups, with serial numbers, and even a video or two. Invite the buyer to your home to demonstrate the functionality one last time or send them the video via WeTransfer or upload it to YT as an unlisted video. All of this will save you so much hassle with dealing with both scammy sellers and ignorant buyers.

@BigFeesh Год назад

I bought a used 3070 founders edition, was mined on and it's been going strong. I got it for a good deal and it preforms within expected ranges

@robinbegley1077 Год назад

Back when the 1080 was making everything else look like a paperweight, I bought a second hand 980 that served me until it was replaced with a 3060. AND both times I managed to sell the previous card for nearly half. You can really stretch your money going used.