You Shouldn't Buy The HX Stomp In 2024 If THIS Matters To You… 

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"Don't buy. This technology is really old." Plugs his strat into a Plexi.

If your running out of processing power then your using the wrong line6 product. I think this video is misleading by saying the HX Stomp xl is old and restricted when they have 3 more models above this product that fix all your problems you described with the xl. I own Helix floor and have no problem with DSP and run very complex patches. I recently got Stomp xl to use with my tube amp and it's perfect. This is why they have options. Very misleading to say don't use line6 products because it's old technology. As far as routing options, range of platforms, continuous updates, customer service, build quality and the list goes on line6 is miles ahead of the competition. Sorry but feel you just gave line6 a bad wrap by comparing the problem you have with one of there platforms when they give the public so many more options. Look up which Helix/Hx product is right for you and you will find any of the problems you have are fixed with one of the many options they have that the competition does not offer. That's what make line6 keep up with the times. Research before you buy. Misleading to review one product and then have it reflect the entire product line.

"You shouldn't buy this because it's old, but I'm still using one."

Are you upset that line 6 isn't asking you to drain your bank account? You didn't give one example of how it shows its age lol. You just keep saying it's old as if that's the only point you need. Like you're upset you can't run complex chains on the miniature version. It's suppose to be limited. The ampero has 12 blocks but there are limitations with that. We actually probably had the technology back then to have more blocks. But they didn't want to make their own competitor. Why would you buy the big helix if the small one is sufficient for every scenario.

Does it sound good? Yes. Wasn’t that the goal? I got the HX Stomp because I wanted to stop buying gear. So far, mission accomplished.

I'd like to point out that while the HX Stomp has the Helix effects in it, it also has a lot of the Legacy Line6 effects in it that are much older. This could be used to support your opinion that this is older technology and there's bound to be something bigger and better coming out soon enough, but it also could be used as a counter to your opinion that this older technology could be considered obsolete and one might want to wait until the bigger and better product line comes out. These Legacy effects are there because they do a good job. They weren't obsolete when the Helix line came out and were always a major part of that. I think It's safe to assume that the next wave of Line6 products will continue to draw upon their current palette of effects like they always have so even if Line6 released their next generation modeling line tomorrow, most if not all of the models in the Helix line will be incorporated within it. So it really is more about the hardware end of things and it already has enough power for just about anything you'll want to do with it. I don't see a whole lot of situations where the full on Helix doesn't have enough horsepower to do what needs to be done. The Stomp and Stomp XL are there for the user that wants the same quality but doesn't require the same quantity as the full boat models. Now, if you want infinite effects in a super tiny package, that's not an option yet but could be on the horizon. However, I don't disagree with what you're saying in the video at all. I do thing that it really comes down to how long you want to wait for the next thing, while you've been missing out on the Stomp/Stomp XL the whole time you've been waiting. When the next generation does come along there will be a bump in demand as people sell off their Helix stuff to get the new stuff. You won't make all of your money back, but you certainly won't have an obsolete paperweight on your hands either. I just wanted to comment because I'm someone who will be picking up an HX Stomp here soon and it wouldn't sway me in any way if there was a new line announced and released, regardless of whether it's new hardware or software. Plus I don't like waiting around with nothing waiting for the perfect something to come along some day. I haven't picked one up until this point because I really haven't needed one, it would have just been a neat additional toy around. But the HX Stomp would be absolutely perfect for the gig I'm doing right now and would definitely replace my entire pedalboard and scale down everything while not sacrficing a single thing. It's all gains for me.

I agree and disagree. The HX Stomp holds it's own today. The proof is in the sound. L6 has done a great job with updates to keep it relevant. Until L6 gives us a sniff of a new platform the Helix stuff will continue to be a great choice.

Providing us alternative to buy instead would be great, maybe a follow up video

Even if they do come out with new modeler, the price will be higher. This is good for people just wanting 6 effects or less and one amp.

I did it was on sale at Sweet Water, great buy

this guy is weak

I've been gigging the HX XL for 2 years now as my entire gig rig. Completely satisfied, it ticks all my boxes. Never had any dsp issues, but my needs are very basic. I don't use snapshots, just stomp mode, and I don't even run it in stereo. Just one cable straight to the PA using IEM's. ...and it fits in the front pocket of my gigbag 😁👍 (That was the main selling point for me) It sounds great to me, but my ears aren't super refined for these thing, I still love the tones out of my old Fender Mustang 3 v2 amp 😂👍

HX stomp is the swiss army knife of pedals, Like the swiss army knife, It is old but it does everything it was designed to do so same as the HX stomp, HX stomp is still the best when it comes to it it's price point. More Juice = more $$$

Tonex with my drives into HX stomp input at line level, Strymon reverb in the Stomp FX Loop. Plenty stomp processing power for more FX.

So far, Matteo Mancuso seems to managing ok with this old technology, and so am I. 😎

Since you've ruled out software and firmware, I'm curious what specific piece of hardware in the helix is actually causing its obsolescence? Any thoughts?

So to clarify line 6 said they aren’t working on a helix successor I don’t know why people are still making videos telling people to wait also just buy a helix it has more dsp lmaoo

The fact that you mention the iPhone highlights the flaws in your argument. Music gear is not equivalent (nor does it need to be) to smartphones. Not to mention that phones are mainly on 1 year release cycles for marketing reasons. I have guitar pedals that haven't changed in 30 years. Still sound great. Saying a modeler from 2015 is out of date is silly. It worked then, it works now just the same. And if you need more DSP buy a Helix Floor, or use the Stomp's fx loop to offload some blocks to other pedals.

I think maybe you've been out in the sun too long.

Name 2 competitors at that price point that has more dsp

I have thought about entering the modeling era. I was thinking of getting the ToneX One for amps and the Stomp XL for everything else. I am sure this would be killer, but I have wondered when their next unit would be introduced. I would hate to buy a unit that was phased out 6 months later. That would piss me off. Great Video.

Thats right NOT just the helix! DECADE OLD TECH in All the Headrush FX/Amp modelers units from 2017 & 2023 they still use the "2014 Rockchip CPU". I find it very interesting but if the units keep selling these company's will not upgrade till they absolutely have to.

How bout the valeton gp 200??

I wish more people would bring this up.

Its age, or new things coming out do not make it sound worse. I use my Stomp XL with other pedals, so dsp is generally not an issue. I just dont like how it seems like all of these influencers act like you gotta buy the latest gadget to stay relevant.

Im sorry Ryan but after listening to you i have to disagree with most things you are saying the reason why they haven't done anything is because there is nothing better.

you Ryan got a good point.

The stomp could benefit from a newer DSP to reduce the power consumption and support dual amps. But besides this, people will be disappointed if they think the helix is ancien tech. The tech is in the firmware. The hardware just need to be able to support a reasonable number of blocks at a decent latency.

OK what should you buy in 2024..cheap to expensive?

Ah man, such a lot of false equivalency in this video. The Helix range are constantly being updated, and what we have now is almost and entirely new set of sounds and quality compared to what we had in 2015. I get what you're saying about waiting for the Helix 2, or whatever it might be but you can't write off an entire range which is pretty much best in slot for the price range because it's a bit older. The Stomp is also designed to be the scaled back version of the Helix modelling range, if you're maxing your chain out then your requirements are more geared towards the full Helix - remember, the Stomp is still the 'budget' option in the range. You mentioned the FM9 in another comment which I'm sure is great, but it's also 3 or 4 times the price.

Ok take it the other way around, what is available that is better than the Helix HXStomp and in the same price range? You are making a video based on your expectation and crystal ball predictions.

Just bricked my headrush pedalboard a few weeks ago and need something to replace it. The headrush sounded great, but never got the functionality out of it as a DAW and frankly concerned about being able to perform with it live using midi to control it. I just got an HX Stomp XL yesterday and already feeling what you're talking about. What's the alternative for similar functionality/size without going off the deep end on price?

One of the top videos in your channel is literally titled "The Helix HX Stomp XL Is Amazing in 2024". I'm confused.

lol.. hx is the goat! with or without external pedals... buy a product that suit ur needs..😅😅😅

yeah nah. The hx stomp is as good as all the newer modellers in terms of tones. In fact its still the OG because all the others have lifted everything from it without really bringin anything new. All the modellers are great nowadays. Its the form factor you need to decide on. If you think spending 2 to 3 times as much on a newer modeller is going to make you sound 2 to 3 times better....well goodluck with that.

I think the Helix is a great product but it takes a little too much tweaking to get to it to sound good for me personally. I actually don't think it's that user-friendly compared to the quad cortex and others, ET cetera.

Jimmy Page used Echoplex and Wah pedal live , SRV used Tubescreamer , Fuzzface and Wah , Peter Green NO Pedals , Kossoff NO Pedals ....... HX Stomp is plenty for the average human , stop talking poo poo .

yeah right...old my ass

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Lmao.. all these these videos, praising it and then all of a sudden this… 😂