You Told Me This Ammo Was Good...G2 Research RIP (9mm & 380acp) 

"you wouldn't want to get shot by this" The standard that all ammunition and calibers can easily meet.

These rounds were used by a restaurant owner in Montebello ca during an attempted robbery at the end of the business day. Two suspects died. Yes they work. This Happened approximately year and half ago. The gun store who sold him the gun and rounds confirmed it.

I worked at a gun store that was the first authorized dealer in my area. An emt had come in and was telling us about a person who had been shot with this ammo, his quote was this was the most devastating gunshot wound he and his crew had ever seen. There was nothing they could do besides stuff the wound. The guy bought 3 boxes of 3 different calibers for his guns.

You need federal HST 147 and call it done. Search for defense ammo over. Get rid of that marketing gimmick ammo.

about the death row inmate's bodies... back in the early 1900s the US military department wanted the replace the .38 colt revolver round, so they actually tested the possible replacements on medical cadavers and deemed that they needed a .45 and they went back to the .45lc and in 1910 they adopted the the .45acp and a year later they adopted the m1911 pistol.

if your testing if it cycles, make sure you test having them alternating too if that's how your going to carry, I'm sure there's a difference in recoil between the two, and it would be interesting to see if it holds the same aim in the same gun, I feel like at different ranges where the bullet is going to hit will be very different between the two.

well thanks for the feedback, I swapped out my old ammo (gold dot) for now until after I test these myself...

I like the tried & true hollow points. Preferably Federal HST, or Gold Dot.

RIP is absolute shit, just throw it away. Fed HST, Gold Dot, Crit Duty, or Golden Sabers, stick to what is proven.

Stopping the target through pain and tendon damage is the best solution to keeping you safe. Rip ammo does this the best. Moving your arm after getting hit in the shoulder with a rip round would be near impossible while with hollow points that guy might still be able to lift his arm. Getting hit in the chest by a rip round would create a bigger region of pain immediately helping nuetrualize the target as fast as modernly possible. Rip rounds are best for protecting your life but not your property. Be more responsible and defensive, then rip rounds should treat you best

Your boy at the armory channel, has a video on similar ammo that breaks open like a flower but stays connected to the core and creates one huge wound channel. I cant remember the mame of it but check it out. The nose is round so it functions like ball ammo in the clip.

Winchester Ranger T-Series, Federal HST or Speer Gold Dot.

Who told you RIP is good self defense ammo?

As a certified RU-vid comments section consultant, I advise you to NOT use that ammo in your carry guns.

Stocked up RIP with 380 and 9 when I found it in stock.$1.50/round 380 and $2.35/round 9mm. This stuff is the real deal. I feel better with it my EDC guns. Especially my 380.

My experience with defense ammo has been limited to LeHigh Defense Extreme Penetrator, Precision One HP/XTP, Federal HST, Hornaday XTP, Sig Sauer Elite V-Crown, Speer Gold Dot, and Magtech Guardian Gold with the Federal HST’s penetration, expansion, and consistency taking 1st place. I’m anxious to try out the G2’s offerings. Great video by the way!!

Ricer Boolits. 😂. Lol.

really g2 rip, never listen to youtube comments

There IS a nice little well down in these rounds for adding various 'goodies' though.

after doing my own gel testing with plates in front of the gel (to slow down and break apart round) i found my fav round to be ruger arx. had great penetration with an amazing wound pattern. i have it in all my carry pieces except my 357

stay with speer gold dot, Hornady critical defence, underwood defender, or even federal hst. these rounds look good in gel, but suck in practice.

That ammo is awesome for impressing people who like "savage" looking bullets, shooting water balloons in slow motion, and being much less effective than pretty much any hollow point round.

Here's another note. The trocars don't bloom when it hits a hard surface, it blooms when it hits a soft surface. Someone tested these against rubber tires and they went straight through the tire and didn't bloom til it hit gel inside the tire "well", the trocars helping saw through the rubber with its spin.

I heard the 9mm version of this stuff jams like crazy.

eh I think that stuff is a gimmick, just like your cold air intake lmao just kidding

I hate to admit this but I have shot myself with R.I.P ammo thank god it grazed leg and didn't break apart on me. I had a .380 jam and like an idiot I had the gun pointed down and for some reason I decided to turn it sideways and tore a nice whole in my leg. I'm grateful it didn't do a lot of damage but I feel so stupid at the same time. The ammo cut the skin, fatty tissue, and scrapped against the calf muscle. I have a nice 5-6 inch scar now.

people forget the main purpose of defensive rounds is to transfer energy as efficiently as possible and open up a large wound channel to cause shock and stop the threat. lethality doesn't necessarily mean that the threat wont continue to present itself fir a peroid of time that could be harmful to you. just my thought on tge gimmicky bullet.

I have had manual and cycle feed problems using R.I.P rounds for my 42. It will only feed if the gun is freshly cleaned well lubed and barrel battery is polished using a dremel. Ammo works great in both my 19 and 26 . Not sure if i got a bad batch or what but round tends to get smashed in after cocking . I live down the street where they make this ammo so i'll be asking alot of questions from the designer about this

I carry 147 grain HST. love that stuff.

those are kool but ill stick to my Remington golden sabre and that looks like what you use aswell but i could be wrong

It's a "Trocar" round, basically a frangible round intended to have the bits be shrapnel inside the target vs braking on impact to reduce OP like a traditional frangible rounds.

Don't know if you'll read this, but if you do, look up Liberty Civil Defense, in 9mm if you get the chance.. 50 grain, 2000 fps. Pierced IIIA body armour. Worth looking into, I carry it in my 19. I know many people that do as well.

Hey Jeff the death row comment you made brings me back go my college thesis I wrote. look into the exoneraiton project and see that not everybody on death row has concrete evidence that they are guilty and some have been proven innocent after decades in prison

Why people don't do their research before they buy something. This ammo is trash period end of story. If you need help picking ammo look up Shootingthebull410 on RU-vid.

I'm not some criminal loving libtard, and for full disclosure when I was a teen (16 17) I got into some serious trouble and went to prison. I am now a 40 year old law abiding citizen. No American ever "loses their civil rights". We don't treat other humans respectfully or recognize their civil rights because they are good people. We recognize these rights BECAUSE WE ARE GOOD PEOPLE. If you think a human doesn't deserve to be treated as such, it says more about you than them.

What usually happens is the petals break off immediately, and you get a very low weight base that does not penetrate adequately.... additionally alternating ammo? That makes a much sense as alternating ammo in your shotgun, I need to know whats coming out of my gun!

HST's end of search

You don't need to press the trigger after you empty the gun. Break that habit fast!

I own three Glocks 19, 26. and a 34 all of them are loaded with either Speer Gold Dot 124+P or Federal HST 124+P.

I definitely didn't expect you to love it right away or even continue using it, I just wanted you to judge for yourself and make your own call. So thanks for trying it out, I appreciate it

I stopped when you actually said it works like a hole saw. the average human is about 15 inches front to back. A 9mm has a 1 in a 9.84 twist or a least the glock 19 on the table you have does. Saying that if the bullet stayed together it would turn 1 and 1/2 times in the width of your body, hardly a hole saw. But thats a moot point since the trocars, which by themselves weight less than a .177 cal pellet brake off within the first inch so in reality it will be physically impossible for them to act like a hole saw. they will make one hell of a superficial wound. But in the end what you have is 7 trocars that most got stopped by your ribs and a 380 wad cutter. Whoever pays $ 30 for a box of these knows shit about terminal ballistics.

Its one of those engineer things that works great on paper, but not so much in the real world. I wasn't aware hydrashoks and hollow points needed much improvement. If you want penetration just use FMJ's. It doesnt matter a whole lot, keep making holes till the threat is gone. The bad guy won't know if the bullets cost 5 dollars a piece or .20 and it doesn't matter much in the long run. Carry whatever rounds work well in your gun and don't worry so much about how much ''damage'' your gonna do per round. Any modern made round will kill, period. Shot placement is key regardless of the round. Short of that more holes equals more blood loss equals more likely to die. Gel doesn't replicate a body, its just a consistent medium to test rounds for comparison. Something that goes 14in into a block of gel isn't going 14in into a person.

It's more lethal... people are forgetting about the main projectile which continues along the traditional ballistic path....and you mentioned that.

Cycling is the biggest concern with this particular ammo, the end result speaks for itself

It's a gimmick. In ballistic gel tests it looks like it's got good penetration. But when fired into a pig carcass the trocars get stuck in the rib-cadge and don't actually do much damage. A traditional hollow point works much better in more realistic situations. Ballistic gel only mimics muscle not bone and cartilage. While it might cause damage those little flechettes aren't going to stop someone in there tracks, just cause a pain in the ass in the ER. Get some pig carcasses cloth-em then light em up and butcher. Put the RIP round to bed.

thumbs up for testing rounds on scum bags!

Seen videos with this anmo goung through drywall and thin boards and denim layers and it still functioned. It won’t blow up until 3-4 inches in. The best of this ammo is ICC which even works properly through a windshield and still traveled 15 inches into gel nasty stuff

Great warm weather carry ammo. Heavy winter clothing negates much of the effectiveness of the trochards. 147gr, Hornady in cold weather, and the RIPs for summertime CCW.

junk ammo and way to expensive ill stick to my hst

LOLOLOLOL WHOOOOOO TOLD YOU TO BUY THIS SHIT?!?!?! you got sold some wolf tickets pretty hard. when the vids of this ammo first came out all i could do was laugh and trash it. when people did testing vids i wasnt impressed. when i saw the specs i almost pissed myself laughing. when i saw the price i almost shit my pants. big, slow, heavy man, you cant go wrong.

I love your idea to stagger the rounds. Truly the best of both worlds. Thank you.

Frangible ammo wasn't made for flesh, it was designed not to over penetrate or ricochet, shooting steel up close is safe with it, by far not the best personal defense round, personally I've been using Hornady critical defense for yrs and it is a solid performer, just my two cents, your mileage may vary.

If you want someone to live and sue you, use those rips...

That ammo is just a gimmick. I'll stick with my regular Hornady Critical Defense.

If you want solid copper ammo check out Lehigh Defense. they are from PA so you are supporting a local business.

I agree maybe not for the execution but definitely the body

The only thing the G2 RIPs are good for is pictures.

Pulling the trigger is not part of the unloading process. Also, just stick to standard hollow points. Have a good day, Jeff!

The 2 guns that cycle this round without issue is glock and S&W SDVE.

I talked about the rip ammo a while ago with some people at my local shop. it's my understanding that that ammo is not good for glock. this due to the barrel. don't know how much is true but just a little info that might help.

I never thought people would take these things seriously.

A prosecutor would have fun with this if you ever had to use these rounds to defend yourself. They could easily make you look like you intended unnecessary harm and were seeking confrontation.

I've finally invested $59.99 at my local Canadian tire (our version of K-Mart, in my opinion) and bought a Buck 110 folding hunter, with a genuine leather sheath. many reviews on the product were great and taking your word for it made my mind for me! I'm happy I chose to purchase such a fine knife, I got it today and I intend to keep it forever.

Law enforcement already uses fragmented rounds I think right? The weapon system is already fairly effective however, This just brings a mental picture of a blender in bullet form ether or both effectively the same.

that death row comment was kinda fucked up ngl

That ammo is crap

Feed nightmare for me. The rounds eventually scratched up the feed ramps on 2 of my guns then progressively got worse with more hang ups.

All ive ever shot is Winchester 230 grain ball. Never once had a feeding problem. My colt was designed to fire that round.

funny how people call these trash but probably never shot anyone with these

Good luck explaining to the judge you were only shooting in self defense when he sees that nasty looking bullet.

Shot one at a truck in the woods. Went through the door. Idk anybody harder than a f150. 9mm The 10mm core and trail cars made in through the door with the core going through both. I’m not military or police but I can gaurantee your shot placement is putting something down.

lol that one thing about shooting dead bodies was so messed up but so funny but also true 😂😂😂

Jeff, if you ever use these in a self defense situation, the prosecuting DA will love your scary RIP rounds and paint you as a homicidal maniac to a clueless jury.

NO THANKS. I'll stick with god dot or SXT.

only three names you need to know in Self defense pistol ammo. Speer gold dot, Hornady critical duty and Winchester ranger T

The Shards are like Scrapnel, so its like getting shot and being hit by a bomb at the same time !

You should permanently ban every one of your subscribers that suggested this junk. :P

id pass on the rip

Lehigh defense for the 380. underwood also loads the Lehigh defense round

Not sure if anyone else can hear this or not. But it seems the audio is bouncing back and forth between the left and right channel. almost like its out of phase. Its hard to listen to. Maybe double check the audio settings on your camera.

It's kinda scary how cavalier you talk about these ripping up muscles and organs. You're talking about, worst case scenario, another human. If someone is coming to rob you I can understand stopping them from hurting your and your wife, but why do you need to rip apart an attackers organs to stop them? There's a reason these types of ammo are not allowed in warfare.

I found these rounds in brass casings. They run a lot better than the steel case ones.

FYI- everyone on RU-vid is an expert. But after owning firearms and training for the last 22years, I'm going to offer my .02c. Take it with a grain of salt, and do your own research to corroborate or dismiss my suggestions. But just know it comes from a VERY EXPERIENCED perspective. 2 things- .380 ammo has always been considered a poor self defense round because modern jhp rounds typically don't meet FBI penetration requirements. Typically, only ball ammo will penetrate deeply enough but won't provide a suitable wound channel. Lehigh defense's xtreme penetrator rounds (you may have heard of them), is truly a game changer. And when I say game changer, I mean it, and without any hype. Underwood is now loading the projectiles for LD and they really are equivalent to a +P round (380 isn't sammi speced). There are plenty of reviews in print and YT to corroborate this. Do yourself a favor, buy some and test it (no good in 9mm for over penetration) CONT..

A dead man tells no lies

From R.I.P the ammunition to R.I.P as in Rest In Peace

The trocars don't spread on impact with a hard surface. It's only when something soft like flesh or liquid is impacted that makes them spread and break off. They fill the hole in the center and that pressure from the center pushes outward, which spreads the trocars. They are insanely destructive. That's why they're called Radically Invasive Projectile/RIP the same company also makes one called civic duty which looks the same, but the trocars are made to spread out but not break off. It essentially expands out to almost 3 times the original size in a flower shape. Also a deadly round. They're also made of solid copper, no lead at all. The lighter weight gives them a higher speed

Are you serious. Never listen to the comment section again. Please.

I agree with you Jeff on death rows they are body's that go to waste why not make them have some worth at least. It'd give testing mass improvements that just ballistics testing.

I recommend the Federal HST 147 grain. Can't beat 50 for less than $25.00 a box.

the death row part was funny af

RIP isn't self defence, it's meant to turn into fragments on hit and scramble insides

4 years later here is my follow up comment, not that it may even matter or get read... The G2 RIP rounds have their base penetrate deep enough in FBI spec gelatin to cause a potentially incapacitating wound, the problem lies with the fact that in 9mm you are still getting that .380 caliber sized projectile deep in the target as the "trocars" break off underneath the skin causing serious damage for sure but mainly painfully superficial. If the G2 RIP were to have those "trocars" break off at 12 inches in the ballistic gelatin and then spread out and additional 1.5 - 2 inches deep with a 3 inch separation between them, then we would be talking about an entirely different situation, this is where even a near miss on a vital organ could get hit by a "trocar" causing an incapacitating wound which would be revolutionary game changing in terms of self defense ammo. There are rounds out there that are segmented that do this just with larger pieces, a prime example is the Winchester PDX12 Segmented Slug, holy hell is that thing disgustingly LETHAL, not just for being a slug, but the fact that it dumps ALL of its energy within 18 inches of FBI spec gelatin and breaks off into 3 135 grain .308 sized jagged pieces that spread out about 8 - 10 inches from each other DEEP in the target. If you got hit by one of those slugs you are undoubtedly FUCKED. Do not confuse this with the Slug + Buck version, the one you want is the segmenting slug.

Performance in ballistic gel is similar to Glaser safety slugs which have remarkable documented stopping power. Coupled with the penetration of the base and applying the research methods of Marshall and Sanow, I don't see the problem.

Federal HST - Winchester Ranger T - Speer gold dot. The best 3 SD rnds out there

Stick to XTPs in the 380. They work well and don't cost too much in most loadings. Though they aren't bonded, so don't drive them too fast.

there is a reason modern ammo has gone away from frangible ammo. It doesn't work. handguns have so little energy you get zero penetration and very little energy on target with those rounds. you get lots of tiny wound channels that aren't great at stopping a threat. with FBI ballistics gel, 12"-18" is their mark because ballistics gel does not exactly represent how a bullet will react in a body. you have bone and varying tissue density to defeat. if a bullet travels 12" in gel it'll probably go about 4-5" in a human body and if it hits 18" it will probably go 8-9" in a human body. anything beyond that runs the risk of overpenetration, anything below (and these rounds are far below that mark save for the core, which almost reaches 12") you more than likely will not hit the vital organs you need to hit to stop a threat with handguns. these rounds died practically a month after release. Most people won't touch them.

Isn't putting a hollowpoint in a 380 kinda like putting a blown 454 in a Prius?

In a home defense situation, perhaps not having over-penetration is a good thing, as it probably won't travel through walls as well.

extreme shock fank face round gen 1 /Aguilar IQ hollowpoint. Tested best for me.

You do realize every time you cycle a round through your firearm like that you're pushing the bullet further into the casing reducing its reliability right? All of my guns have a round in the chamber, but if I ever empty it to clean it or for whatever reason, that round goes into a separate pile for range shooting only. I NEVER chamber the same round twice. Not only that, but cycling a round with your hand is not the same as cycling it with the force of the explosion from the gun powder. Not to say the round won't perform the same, but it doesn't really mean anything that it seems fine when you cycle the round the way you did.