You've Been Lied to: The Giant Myths & Misconceptions of the Jedi Code Explained 

It's just too bad that Luke kinda over-adjusted when creating his New Order. He relaxed a lot of the original order's restrictions because he was able to overcome the 'illusions' and saw the restrictions as paranoid and problematic due to his personal experiences. However, this was biased and short-sighted as he focused on recruiting as many force sensitives as possible without fully considering whether or not they were vulnerable to dark side influence without the strict discipline that the original order endorsed.

​@kylepessell1350 True, less Dogmatic but perhaps too trusting. Still, Luke's Order still beats the one it replaced

​@thalmoragent9344 which one? The Disney verse or EU? Because the Disney one only exemplifies why the Prequal Jedi were in the right.

@@kylepessell1350how so?

It's a Buddhist idea.

So well said. 👍

Try reading the code with “when” added to each line but the last.

What wisdom? That ALL emotions will inevitably lead to the Dark Side? Don't be so egotistical

@petercaballero8059 Light side is not the force, light side is a philosophy on how to interact with the force. And people need to realize that just because they were written to fail, if they were written well - there was a reason behind the fall. And Jedi Code was partially responsible. Not their interpretation of it. The code itself is wrong. It goes against laws of nature - which is the closes thing to the force. Fly is not at peace when it's being devoured, spider is not serene when it gets eaten by a bird, and the cat that eats the bird has no wisdom and is ignorant of the world. And all of them fear death, and you can't do anything about it. It's THE most natural thing. Yet when spider, cat, fly and bird die and suffer, the dark side feeds on it. The code, it's anthopocentric in a way, when the Force wasnt . Btw im saying anthropocentrism for the lack of better word, but it applies to all intelligent species, not just humans. That is the mistake of the Jedi. Always has been. And their failure to understand it is the foundation of why they got fucked over by literally 2 guys.

Huh, this explains the fall of the Jedi very well. Over the 1000 year Sith gap, the code had been misunderstood by the future masters to focus on the words themselves and not the meaning behind them.

"I HATE YOU!"

You are a master...At getting caught. Gotta love TCW. 😉

@@petercaballero8059 Obi wan does make a good point to maul saying only the weak embrace the dark side and those overcome it is stronger than he knows.

Good to see my fellow Bogan brethren

Don't mean to nitpick, but you skipped Victory.

We will be all set three the Jedi blind their students the sith at least they tell the truth

@callumarmitage5375 *Slightly steps forward while narrowing my eyes into a focused gaze* "We will all be....set..three?" • • • • (Sfx) *Ding!* What?

I loathe the foolish Jedi. They are as wise a bucket of bludgeoned fish.

I would not put my hopes on Disney.

you should have seen the Trailers from SWTOR

@@sebastianmuller7013 Those are fantastic.

Actually, the original wording of the code was along exactly those lines. The video mentions the version being analyzed is the one written by the Jedi Master Odan-Urr (who founded the Great Jedi Library on Ossus and was its head librarian for over a thousand years, up until shortly before the destruction of the Ossus temple in 3996BBY). But his version, which became the most widespread codification, was actually a *revision* of the existing code, as he thought its wording wasn’t clear cut enough, and that as a result it was too often improperly understood by younger generations of Jedi. The original code is as follows: Emotion, yet peace. Ignorance, yet knowledge. Passion, yet serenity. Chaos, yet harmony. Death, yet the Force.

Yes pretty much. The Sith way has people falling trying to dominate the Force for power. The Jedi has people falling trying to control the Force through access to knowledge ; they always end up in a cycle of individuals saying they know better & change the rules

Well, no, they learned from the mistake of thinking that balance meant both light and dark. The Jedi do not try to control the Force. Their ideal is to let the Force control them. Another way to think of it is "go with the flow." Jedi fall when they place their own desires, well-being, or biases over listening to the Force. Then they try to make the Force do what they want. That's the dark side, and it is unsustainable. No philosophy or training can prevent every single person from giving in to selfishness or fear. Probably a majority are unable to achieve the ideal, but at least do well enough that they don't fall.

@@johanobesusfatjohn5836 But they actually learn from this. It’s an endless cycle that repeats itself. Every time Jedi fall through galactic history it’s b/c of the tight choke hold on knowledge & customs on the Force & how Jedi should be. It only gets fixed through Luke’s new Jedi order. It’s not that they actually try to dictate the Force, i perhaps shoulda phrased it better, it is the constant pushing over their biases that they know what is best that does them in

@@bet0v966 I don't know much about the "E.U.," old or new. I'm limiting myself to what has been shown on screen (the old definition of cannon), with only the barest knowledge of anything else gleaned from this channel. But so far I've never seen anything that really proves this "fannon." Consider real people. Can you imagine a system of law or religion that could completely remove all possibility of hate or violence from society? Now imagine if some people had force powers. Of course some are going to abuse those powers, no matter what system you have in place to prevent that. In Star Wars there have always been dark side users. Sometimes they create empires, like the Rakata or Sith. The Jedi cannot be all powerful. But from what I've seen, after the first civil war that led to the exile and the creation of the Jedi Order as we know it, every big Sith threat has been instigated by the Sith, even when a lot of Jedi turn. From what I recall, Revan wouldn't have fallen if not for the machinations of a remnant Sith group. Both Dooku and Anakin were lured away, after a millennium of Sith corrupting the entire Republic. But no Sith empire has been stable long-term like the Jedi Order. That's the reason Bane created the rule of two. Unlike the Jedi, the Sith approach to the Force was inherently unstable and chaotic, or in other words, bad. I also don't think the Jedi claimed to have a monopoly on access to the Force. They didn't wipe out the Night Sisters, and _Rogue One_ showed us evidence of another non-Jedi tradition. They tried to wipe out the Sith because the Sith seek out conflict and death, not because they thought they and they alone had the only permissible tradition.

Its also quite Zen Buddhist I think.

Jedi philosophy is sort of a mix of Eastern and Western religious ideas.

Yeah it's a mixture of Zen Buddhism and Baptist

It's buddhism.

George described himself as a Buddbist Methodist.

Not entirely; as stated in the video, Jedi don't reject the existence or validity of emotions, they teach that you must not act upon your emotions, especially not in contradiction to the will of the force. It's similar to the Vulcan mindset, where emotion must be tempered with logic, and actions must not be taken rashly. Likewise, ambitions aren't denied, everyone has wants and goals, but ambitions that are counter to the will of the force and the common good, are shunned. Personally I think that these ideas are pretty good for everyone, the Jedi put such emphasis on them because without restraint, force users can fall to the influence of the dark side, and do horrible things, thus they don't have the same luxury to be driven by emotions and ambitions as other sentients can be.

I believe the reason some Jedi turned to the dark side is because the Council's rules were too strict. Showing emotion is frowned upon, but it is one of the defining qualities that make us human. (or any civilized being) There are different passions, such as seeking wealth, power, or simply happiness. Jedi are forbidden to marry. If not for those fundamental rules, it is likely that the Jedi Order itself, might still exist. Allowing a Jedi to display emotion or seek pleasure would likely be less of a burden, as it would make it easier for them to come to terms with who they are or what they've done. Taking a life is often a path to the Dark side. Jedi do not believe in murder. They always strive to be better than the Sith in every way, little do they realize that they were the ones who created the Sith, albeit unwittingly.

They did fail because they were too strict, but they will fall if they were too relaxed

This take highlights the part in the presentation about ignorance and the failure to see through one's own bias. You view the Jedi as slaves through the prism of what YOU deem to be necessary. Within the construct o the story, the Jedi belief that the well being of other individuals is what allows them the clarity to not fall in the trap of self destruction that the Sith typically fall victim to.

@@M4A1BestGirl None of the Jedi fell because the rules were too strict. That's an excuse. It that were even remotely true, there would've been a lot more Jedi who fell. The ones who end up becoming dark siders usually fall either because they lacked the character to resist the temptations of the Dark Side or because they became Jedi for the wrong reasons. Anakin and Dooku were examples of both.

Thats not true. Jedi coexisted with other Force sects that stay true to the Will of the Force. They just believe that their interpretation of the Force is the correct one. Which it is.

@@dorianwiesner4477 sorry to tell you this but you’re wrong. The Jedi’s interpretation of the force is NOT the only correct way. It is rather narrowed minded and dogmatic. Fortunately for us, Legends Luke is friends with other light sided sects and didn’t respect the nonsense of the old order’s ways of thinking.

@@rodgill9376it’s whatever the Force needs you to be. Kanan Jarrus was knighted by the Force itself on Lothal. If that is the path you are destined to go, then you are a Jedi

@@JDog2656 in other words, you’d rather only limit yourself towards one side.

@@rodgill9376 let me guess, you want to be a “grey” Jedi? 🙄

The whole point of the first line was to teach to process emotions, experience them but not letting them cloud your sence of judgement and influence your actions. Emotions are a fundamental part of sentient live, not just positive emotions, but also negative ones. Jedi don't just swallow them and lock them away, they just don't let emotions control them

​@@dorianwiesner4477yeah well tell that to Master Mundi

@@DLR1997The Jedi like the Sith have a continuous problem. The Sith seek dominance over the Force for power & end trampling over each other. The Jedi end up in this continuous fall of trying to control the Force by limiting knowledge & changing rules to be rigid to how the Force should be followed

It's amazing that even after this presentation brilliantly disproved the misconceptions about the Jedi code, there are still ignoramuses that still want to cling to the false narrative that the Jedi completely prohibited its members from having emotions. What part of the code promoting internal peace escapes your understanding?

@@decepticonxhunter4850 There is no emotion, there is peace. This isn't about internal peace; this literally means that you can't have emotion and you must be emotionally dead. This is a major failing that caused the Jedi to become so weak and helped cause their downfall.