The most realistic youtuber out here, doesn't have dozens of painting, basing, or strategic videos. Just a man like us all going through life with hobbies. And a man named Steve tossing him around like a rag doll. Best laugh all week, love you and your vids.
You can be easily disciplined when your "fun tank" is filled up. Having ADHD means that your fun tank is being drip fed and never gets full. Your mind is always up to seeking stimulation.
@@Deus888 lol that’s not discipline though. Discipline is doing something even when you lack the motivation because you know it needs to be done. Problem with applying it to painting minis is that there’s really no ‘need’ for it lol the benefit is that you painted a mini, and it can look great and all but unlike exercise there isn’t any real consequence for doing or not doing it. With exercise you benefit from better health and greater physical ability. And not exercising sends you backwards undoes your progress and gains With painting minis there is no punishment, the benefit is a painted mini which is nice but if you didn’t paint the mini. Well nothing changes you just still have an unpainted mini lol Edit: lol sorry about the repetition, wrote this whole looking over shoulder at work
@@woodlefoof2 discipline is an emotion. You can understand that you have to do something, but you need emotions to actually do it. When your brain undermines your tries so the time it's hard to feel disciplined. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0N0LV0mqTYQ.htmlsi=wr6xMmTLCdOvbMi3
Love the vibes of this, and it's nice hearing someone else talk about the struggles of ADHD in such a personable and normalized manner. Either way, with this trick, I'd love for you to read up on PDA (pathological demand avoidance, not public displays of affection). Because from personal experience, this seems like peak PDA behaviour to me. "Oh, you're telling me I CANNOT do this? Ok, I wasn't gonna do it, but now I WILL DO IT!"
Spite recently helped me start up a small side business. It started when I just wanted to print my own decals for my minis. I wanted WHITE ones which, as I found out, come with caveats and difficulties and can't normally be printed. But I didn't want to settle for buying either expensive Forgeworld sheets or GW upgrade kits. So out of spite at GW and not wanting to give them the satisfaction of making me buy expensive sheets of stickers I instead spent even MORE money to buy myself my own laser printer and specialty white toner. Then, figuring I already had the stuff needed, I went ahead and made my own Etsy store moooostly to try and make back some of the money I spent. I created a bunch of different designs and tossed them on it. I've sold a few hundred dollars worth of decal sheets, made my investment back, and now have a nice lil bit of extra spending money.
For me and my friends, we don't call my unbuilt/unpainted models my "Pile of Shame". We call it my "Vault of Self-Loathing". I have SO many armies across a few different systems that are mostly unbuilt, so I understand the struggle. Because I also struggle with doing consistent hobby work. My latest solution to this has been setting weekly hobby goals. I lost the habit somewhere in my 2nd year of hobbying, and bringing it back has done well for me so far. So I hope that helps you out, Paul!
I have already ordered 300 PTS (which will need to be washed) and the infiltrators of which I will need to turn into a veteran vanguard on the Jump pack. Your video gave me the motivation to finish all this in 4 weeks
my co-worker got me into Warhammer recently and I'm furiously painting through my first army to get it done because I told him I'd never get a TRUE pile of shame like he has. Honestly it's a great motivator.
I've found painting the corpses on some decorative bases as my friends armies has helped me get them to paint their dudes; they don't want me to have more painted models of their faction than they do!
I painted my brothers entire 2000 point army after a very long time of not painting anything, then, immediately afterwards, I got suggested this video, and I got to say that that’s very bad timing on the universe’s part
One of my favorite moments from the Simpsons is when Homer needs to land a plane because the pilots are incapacitated. He calls his life coach, and says "I need to learn how to land a plane!" His coach says "you know why I know you'll land that plane? Because I heard some guy say you couldn't." Homer proceeds to say "WHAT?! I'll show that guy!" and does it flawlessly.
What's helped me recently is I've completely sworn off batch painting. It took me 2 months to paint 10 gargoyles but I can knock out a single gaunt in like 2 hours and have a much better time doing so.
I can kind of see how having to paint an entire load of models can sap the hobby motivation. It's like chipping away at an enormous edifice. Whereas painting in small batches (or single models, apparently?) gives little shots of dopamine at regular intervals.
I got a straight A's report card in my final year just because my friend said he will get one. Couldnt let him beat me. Best most productive rivalry I ve ever had, we really pushed one another.
I can hang my hat on the fact I have at least build and primed everything I own. Actually painting it, another story. But recently I've tricked some friends into joining the hobby, and seeing their painting journey has been a bit of inspiration for me to at least get a fully painted army onto the table. I've managed to make some decent progress into my DG army the past few months. Lack of time is my greatest enemy.
1 thing that has seriously worked for me and my severe ADD is putting everything AWAY and organizing all of it - you have to dig through EVERYTHING, especially all the stuff you already started a long time ago and put in the back so it would stop staring at you: I found some of those the other day and I realized at the time I hit a stop because I didn't have the right point or something, but now I totally do and I have almost painted a totally random assortment of Necrons that I will never use, but they're totally almost done!
I just stopped buying things. Then focused on particular army projects. Now I no longer have a pile of shame. It was little in the first place because poor though. And only buying armies I'm actually very passionate about helped. I can't tell you *just* how amazing it is to go through that journey every single time I buy a box. Buying, constructing and converting, basing, priming, painting and only *then* getting a new one is so satisfying.
I think the thing with ADHD is "just stop doing X" is as hard as "Just do Y". Basically the thing that dispenses happy chemicals in our heads for completing minor tasks is fundamentally broken so with ADHD it takes a comparatively herculean effort to not take the quickest route possible to that sweet, sweet dopamine we have so little of. And of course buying the new shiny thing is a very reliable source of dopamine.
Thwomp is perhaps the best visual expression of how it feels to look at my growing collection of scratch-built models that still don't even have primer on them. Just a coat of dust. This eventually gets to be replaced by the impact of l
Funnily enough, Spite was the reason I _started_ my Fallen army. This was back in 9th ed, when Fallen _technically_ had rules, but just barely. In this case, spiting GW for leaving the renegade Dark Angels in a limbo state got me to collect and paint them. As for what gets me to actually paint, it's podcasts. I follow a fair few of them (Well There's Your Problem, Kill James Bond, Lions Led By Donkeys, It's Probably (Not) Aliens, etc). But since I get very bored listening at my desk anyway, if I have nothing to do with my hands, I put them on only when I'm prepared to start painting. It's a good reward for doing the work, as I get to keep up with a bunch of folks I like. (Most RU-vid videos, which I also watch a lot of, tend to have too much going on visually. So I'm missing something if I watch that). Another thing that sometimes gets me going is making a model purchase. I just snagged a previous Age of Sigmar starter set (Tempest of Souls, for those interested) for cheap. Which made me anxious about having left my latest batch of Fallen half-finished since before the holidays. Hence, why I'm getting into the final stages of painting them as of this writing. Have to clear out some of my Pile before the box gets here.
.... yeah I used to think the same thing. Then the company I worked for closed. Can't buy new minis til new job. So managed to almost devour my entire pile of shame, also fixed my fdm printer because I couldn't get new terrain. Nearly finished painting my entire hive city project. Started experimenting w/ electronics and LEDs into my city, and want to add holograms to shine the emperors love in the city. So glad I hoarded plastic for so long, its kept me running for the past few weeks.
Real talk man. Get yourself an airbrush. Prime, basecoat - slap on a wash and there. That is a model mostly painted. From there just start batch painting the details and you are absolutely done. Bought an airbrush two weeks ago. So far 1.2k models painted and ready to go with about three hours a day worth of work.
It’s crazy how much spite can motivate us adhd peeps, I once got into running and exercise over the course of 2 years and got to the point where I was able to do a 5 minute mile all because I was furious at people and wanted to look better to spite them lol
The best way I've found to get through a pile of shame is to do something related to it every day, even if its just doing one detail on a squad. Just keep doing it, and keep the momentum up, best way to do this is if you have space, keep a painting spot set up. You won't paint many models fast, but at least you're doing something, and I've found that makes it feel like I'm getting through what I've got to paint. Also I guess re-framing unpainted models as gift for your future self, that one day you can paint something (which is supposed to be enjoyable) and not have to spend any more money
I've been going with pile of fun instead of pile of shame. After all, I do enjoy the painting aspects of the hobby so this pile of Tyranids I bought is going to be future fun.
One of the funniest ways I spited someone for 40k: we finished a long and drawn out match to a tie. But the new tournament rules give the battle-ready army the tie break
For me, I can’t stand myself having an unfinished model on the tabletop. So everytime I have a unit I want to use in a game I have lined up, productivity goes through the roof.
I found a solution to my pile of shame, I sold it. I had unfinished admech army for over a year didnt enjoy painting it. Currently im working on seraphon and its a blast I enjoy painting every model and dont feel the intimidation or dread
Honestly when I feel motivated enough to paint, I paint what I think looks cool. Its tempting to want to paint something for your next match but if its something you hate painting (I hate battleline...) you'll paint nothing rather than something. And one day you might feel motivated to paint something you hate.
In my experience, there are three things that prevent me from painting. 1) I just have other things to do that I find more fun and enjoyable. 2) I feel like I am not skilled enough to do the model justice. 3) I do not feel contented with my scheme/ recipe and I don't wanna continue in case I feel like changing things up. I love the "Spite is the greatest motivator" and I hope I feel that one day.
The fact that this video hit so close to home pisses me off lol. I have all the motivation at work but when I actually get out after my 15 hour day it kinda dwindles to yeah not today.
Welp as you described how steve helped you start weightlifting. This is how my discipline for painting works. Every friday evening is painting evening with the boys.
Usually I wam working on my minis and then try to work on my pile of shame... Rn I have exams( my second try) I did not even touch my normal minis in over a week and painting them actually makes my mind go easy....
I don't know how far it might progress, but... I'll try to force it. I haven't painted ANYTHING in my 5+ years of collection. Might not be the spiteful sort, but we'll see whether that challenge can at least motivate me to at the very least base paint what I've built. Within four weeks...
Very good video will get my Court of Crimson King finished this month, most of them incluing Magnus is done just the second squad needs doing, gold is on just blue and silver needs adding
I also have adhd, but I'm disabled so I can't work, but I can paint while you work. And if I lose to you I have the "I'm disabled" excuse. I can't lose lol. Tmi: when I was younger I used spite to keep from committing the un-alive
So I make models in blender and I love doing it but my motivation wavers. I've created a fuck ton of golden boys but I'll tell you what there is nothing that brings me more drive and truly pushes me than seeing someone else make a custode. doesn't matter if they're good or not it will push one to make and remake more and more until you look back and you realise that you've made 19 different generations on the same thing. spite is a very powerful tool for motivation especially when someone comes in and acts all superior about it
Ngl, I haven’t applied this to my hobby but I’m in a polyamorous relationship and when I came out to my mom about it she said that “it’s an experiment/ it’s only a phase you’ll grow out of it/ this is a bad idea and it will go wrong” and we’ve been close to 3 years together the tree of us. My relationship is going amazingly on it’s own, but it will never fail out of spite for my mother’s comments.
I once did a tale of warlords with two friends. The idea was to paint 2k in 8 months of a new army, so 250 points a month, which weren't allowed to be built prior. One lasted two months, the other didn't even finish a unit. I did my whole 2k army of deathguard (including 40 poxwalkers and converted models) within those 8 months out of spite for their lack of trying, and yes, I was smug about it. Is it perhaps the most friendly thing to do? Probably not. Was it worth it? Yes.
So true. My friend has a painting Instagram and twtich, it motivates me to paint. Wont be as good but he's not using enough retributer armour so he's obviously doing it wrong
Mate the other day at the gym, my mate and I were doing deadlifts. I did 10 reps of 60kg, so he did 11. I then did 17 reps of 80kg whereas he did 5. Spite is a powerful tool
See.. I have a slightly different problem. I have ab almost compulsive desire to create homebrew armies for every faction I play/am interested in. Which is a lot. And I also keep getting the "I'm not feeling it" feeling and start over. Many times from scratch. Sometimes including color scheme.
I sent pictures of my first 5 intercessors for the stream you did a while back and than proceeded to become unsure if I liked the color till like 2 days ago where I was like well he said it looked fine might as well try it again so I have an almost completed razorback now thank you
doing things out of spite is another great source of doing things, but since youve knocked me for my horrid spelling I feel like adding 2 things: 1: english is a second language and I am extremly dyslexic if you havent noticed 2: I also have ADHD, I know the struggle, I also know that my ADHD is very mild so I naturally can not comment on how it is for someone whos ADHD is stronger than mine. but even then Discpline in life is a must have, going to the gym regularly has been the biggest confidence boost and aid in dealing with depression I have ever had. anyhow, feel free to drag me however you want (I am a shitty person so I deserve it), Ill still be watching your vids and in my own way be hoping for your succes wether its hobby, youtube or your personnal life :D
