YOU WILL TAKE MORE DAMAGE STARTING WITH NEXT PATCH | Elder Scrolls Online - Gold Road 

Really well done video, couldn't have explained it better myself.

And imagine not having the PC Guys (or anyone testing on PTS etc.) ....we especially on Console would be absolutely clueless. 🧐😑 Thanks for the Video!

Just unbelievable that they leave all this info on the backend without actually telling players. Like you said at the end, how the fuck are we supposed to make a decisions on builds if the numbers on tooltips are wrong and there are randomly assigned hidden debuffs for wearing certain set pieces together? This is probably my number 1 complaint against ZoS: they don't tell people anything in their game and they make getting info a herculean effort, if it is even reasonably possible. In this case, it's even worse though because they are outright lying to people; and for what? So they don't have to put in their patch notes that they are nerfing a few sets and skills by a few % points? It's just stupid.

I always wondered why the numbers were always slightly off when testing mitigations. Turns out it's another ZOS feature

Thanks for making the video. Back when the CP changed I tested a lot of things and even tried to bring up the issue of incorrect mitigations in the formulas to no avail. After 2 years I stopped doing this and sparkrip took over. I knew there were a lot of inconsistencies and after having to test every single thing every time something got added or changed I kinda felt kinda like a pain in the ass. I didn't mind it once or twice, but every time I though I had it all sorted out someone would come and say "I had this combination and the damage I got was incorrect" and I could start all over again since something somewhere needed an exception to make the formula work again.

*Thanks. Extremely Helpful video.*

Man necros already got it rough, i miss stalking blastbones

Wow, you put so much effort into these videos. I want to thanks you for all your hard work. The quality od these videos is exeptional!

as if there already wasn't a shortage of tanks now more people will be moving out of that role

Wait.... What?? Hidden penalties that they never mention in game or patch notes and we only know when someone tested it??? One of the unique feature of eso is theory crafting, that is very different to other mmo where everyone at end game wear the same class gears. How can player enjoy this when tool tips are a lie with hidden penalties?

Ahh Zos just why, like dont mislead players just be honest like this is SO much worse :) Thanks for bringing this up and thanks to SparkRip amazing job thats som scooby doo shit my man respect

Thanks, Hyper. I have been concerned about ZOS's cryptic comment in the patch notes, and yours and Sparkrip's work has confirmed our worst fears. The code clearly needs a re-write, but there must be some spaghetti code preventing them taking the obvious route and just correcting the mitigation formula. Keeping fingers crossed for a proper, professional fix to this by ZOS.

i mean they cant even write the real skill/passive descriptions in the german translation of the game. for example the elder dragon passive from the dk says in english 259 health recovery and in the german translation it says 259 health and stamina recovery. same thing with certain 5 piece descriptions

Thank you for you hard and honest work mate! I am gettng the impression that this game only works thanks to the passionate PTS people like you and others!

Very informative video. Thank you.

Thank you for this very informative video. I wonder how this will effect PvP. The tank meta is gone?

Great video and explanations. It’s ridiculous that the methods of mitigation, dmg and how they interact aren’t more clearly explained, I wish at least the tool tips would be accurate having to fact check of every part of a build against its stated tool tip is just time consuming and tedious. Appreciate all of you who make the spreadsheets, definitely helps.

1:41 LMFAO

Question everything, I guess? What a failure on ZOS with those tooltips.

Thanks for helping shed a light on the truth.

Hey Heprioxes, I'm a newbie, and I have just one question: Will this make the "Cyrodiil Angler" build obsolete? I'm not a fan of PvP and I heard that it's a good build for tourists, simply because it outheals incoming damage, will changes to mitigation affect it? Thanks in advance. And thanks for the content!

Feels like im playing warzone. Numbers dont actually add up. Tool tips are false. Beautiful.

I... just... built a Necro tank 😡

This is fascinating. Mechanic deep dives like this are as much a delight as they are a rarity. What do you think this will mean for pvp, and Undeath in particular? Will vampires finally be less oppressive and mandatory? Will anything even change for pvp?

10yo game and it can't even establish correct quanititative damage values. Bizarre.

As far as PvP goes bravo 👏

Its just a pain in the a-- to level up another character, get all the skill lines, skills, skill points... its, ugh.

Lesson learned: ZoS tooltips are almost useless.

as a fellow tank doing the hardest content on advanced tactics this is big, as you suggested they should revert the hidden nerfs if they are changing it to multiplicative and if tooltip says 20% mitigate that....

100% direct damage mit is currently possible on live with tank pants, nobility in decay, undeath and all the slottable mits

That's the most zos thing I can possibly think of

WTF is ZOS doing? Oh wait it's ZOS "If it ain't broken, fix it till it is" 🙄

Lol zos wanted to buff necros by making them completely useless as tanks. Well done bravo.

Frankly i hope they just update the tool tips. I dont think nerfing some of the mitigation is a terrible thing since they just increased damage shield strength with major vitality. But it does tilt the balance out of favor with necro tanks even more.

So what will be the new meta is the biggest question Im apart of a guild of people Mostly tanks il need to educate them and help them learn

ZOS, lying straight to its players faces? Surely no one would have expected this to happen..

So will the mitigations that are lower than the tool tip get re adjusted?

WHY THE FUCK ZOS?? THIS WILL EVEN FURTHER MAKE PEOPLE SCARED TO TANK

I write code for a lot of software, and I have said for years that ZOS needs to clean up the code ESO runs on. The reason the game is so unstable, especially in Cyrodil, is because the code is an absolute jumbled mess. They’re really trying their best to hold together this spaghetti string code because fixing it would require too much work for them I suppose

facts why would they lie on the tool tip

How does impact all the other arcanist skills? I have been running high health arcanist tank

But they’re fixing it right so not an issue moving forwards? Sorry if I’m getting it wrong?

Is this additive/ multiplicative just for pc ? Or has this problem been relevant for console as well?

It was already confusing for beginners with the armor values and the armor cap and how that translates to percent and how it adds up with other bonuses. Now with this change it seems the percentages are basically meaningless.. Especially for those who are new and want to learn how the system works it's going to be a nightmare. And then people complain there are not enough tanks... I think now we may have even less of them..

Imagine solo players… we need strong dps and good mitigation to succeed… this is gonna make it rougher now.

I quit playing ESO over their insane over-monetization tactics, but I was considering coming back on the monthly-fee basis since it's not that much money. However, your video made me think twice because I prefer to play tanks and if they've nerfed tanking classes by hiding debuffs, then I guess I will move on to another game. Thanks for the heads up.

Ooow, so that is why we "need" new mythic gloves for tanks xD (At this point zos could just erase necro class or at least change its name for ECBitch...)

Hows work on pvp?

I've been playing ESO for years and I'm always surprised by that something that should be basic so that we can make a decision about how to build our character is so poorly detailed. Honestly, I've already lost any hope that they will resolve it in an update 😅

Im sure after skyrim and people found a way to over inflate the numbers via crafting, the developers decided they would never let that happen again lmao

sigh, time to respec my necro tank

ZoS is like sOuNDs PlAyEr TeStAbLe and then does this shit.

Sounds to me like ZOS has a big bowl of spaghetti that they have zero clue how to correct, but also don't want to fully rewrite due to budget/personnel/time constraints. Might be a good idea for them to sit and start working on a rewrite to modernize the game anyway, keep it as a separate build until they can catch up content-wise, then release it as a separate game with the option to import your current account into it similar to how hirez is handling smite, although without all the legacy nonsense and just unlocking the content youve already paid for considering how expensive ESO content is

THANK YOU for your hard work. Dang this patch.. Its good and bad

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I think ZOS cannot explain it because they don't even know what they are doing. Seems like they are just randomly adjusting numbers if they feel something is too strong (or too weak). But for real progress players who want to min/max on builds it is very important to have correct numbers and maths behind the game. So ESO is slacking hard on it and you see again they only care for their housing and roleplayer community. Everything else seem too difficult. It is depressing, maybe Ashes of Creation will make it better.

Pasta Marinara Code 🍝🍝🍝

Love that i got an add "Exposing fake games" for some mobile game before Hyper exposed this fake game.

bye bye necro

The lack of integrity, get it together, Zos. Do NOT lie to your customers.

They nerfed Necro again 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Now cyrodill will be like battlegrounds no more tanky meta

*More damage taking? not me. im popping a 110% Reduce Damage Taking with the Gold Road tank set and mythic. All attack hit like stick even more. Remember, im still popping 100% "Block Mitigation" (cap is 95%) which is different than "Damage Taking". if we include Block Mitigation on top of Reduce Damage Taking on top of proc set that instantly add 8500 defense to you on top of your defense buff skill you will be popping 40K+ Resistance+ 95% Block mitigation + 100% Reduce Damage Taking so you will have everything at maximum cap so you hold block all day versus 20+ players in PVP. Not saying what build im using but just saying. You will not be immortal because you will die in 3-10+ hit if you get stun, fear or get silence so keeping that immovable skill popping from the heavy armor skill and a escape skill is a must.* 😏

It's already hard enough to be a tank....at least for me. I love engaging mechanics and interesting crowd control for tanking like anyone else. It just feels like every "new and more difficult" content is only more difficult because they add more one-shot mechanics and aoes that cover the entire area. It's already difficult to know what attacks you can take, block, or have to roll dodge. It's already difficult to know what aoes you can stand in or not. That is unless you basically memorize everything like an encyclopedia, which I do ok with (somehow), but jeez, no wonder there are so few tanks. And now they're going to make our surivability even lower while making it even MORE convoluted? Why wouldn't they just wait to implement anything until they have ALL of the changes made, so it isn't a shitshow? And that's not even mentioning the new scribing stuff in the works... which is just going to add another whole layer of confusion when implemented with all this so close together. Fuuuuuu Edit: I really don't mind taking a little more damage, so be it. I am DREADING having to figure out MORE build info. It's already so time consuming and frustrating. That's my main gripe.

I really hate the tool tip esp as a console player i always wonder how true are these damn values

Moving to BDO who wants to buy a account 2k.

Fantastic video, thank you. I know PvE'ers hate this but any change to lower mitigation in PvP will be welcome.

So… players won’t be as tanky next patch?

hey hyper this is concerning because im starting to learn bahsei hm reps with necro with the standard mitigation undeath, etc. do you think necro will be bis for this still or is another class going to be more advantegous?

Bro made a essay about it👏🏻 but tbh after hybrid changes buildcraft is dead there is only one meta build for all classes and all play styles, no need to test anything so thats a fix I guess😂

The tooltips being fake and ZOS knowingly making them fake is just terrible. How are casual players supposed to play the game when it lies to you? What even is this? The tooltips need to be real and you shouldn't have to reverse engineer the game to know what your abilities do!

Necro getting weaker with every patch

Like I've said already they care more about graphic design then game play lol

Thank you for all of the work and giving us this info, Hyper I usually run 7 heavy (besides when I can't find the pauldrons on EU) but my necro still will be taking too much damage. With bleeds and heal checks and not being able to dodge roll certsin enemies and now this.... why does ZoS hate tanks so much? Guess it's good my only progs at the moment are as heals and DD 🥲

Is this the end of Swashbuckler Supreme achievement?

yes just make it harder for tanks so people dont wanna play tank. I play tank and only been playing a few months so i havent done alot of content so im not saying its easy, it depends on your setup but god damn the pool of tanks is already fking terrible, hopefully scribing makes up for it.

Well if they destory tank mains like myself time to fully Uninstal and delete the game

This games pvp has been a defense meta since the battle spirit nerfs destroyed the golden age of this game. The amount of defense stacking you can do destroys any point to pvp because everyone can very easily just build to be unkillable, and then it turns into zergs. All defense sets should just be removed from the game. This nerf doesnt go hard enough.

If the game gets harder for NO reason I will stop playing.

Zos were totally not aware until someone made a video on RU-vid and they saw it. And now you've ever so helpfully filled in every other bit for them. GG. Own goal.

What a mess...

For pve it be bad for pvp it be good.

Yes focus necro more pls JUST FUCKIN DELETE THE CLASS ALREADY

Zos gatekeeping knowledge they wish they had themselves i guess

maybe this will help the tank problem in pvp a little.there is a signifigant number of players(not ball groups) who have ganker burst damage and can mitigate almost all incoming damage indefinitely without any real skill involved

Wow zos fucked up again

why do they hate Necro so much?

Sounds all good from a pvp prospective.

The game feels like trash now. I'm so glad that other m m o's are coming to console this year.

ESO is just a mess of spaghetti code.

We shouldn't expect more from a game company managed by 10 people thats why I quit this game

Sucks but people complain the most about difficulty. Instead of just being content with being good/great at the game, people just constantly complain all the time about the game being too easy. Of course this issue is on ZOS but the constant complaining I hear/see surrounding difficulty don't help, lol.

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Not that it is going to matter anyway on their end. Who even are endgame players for zos

I get why they are fixing it now, but how can they be so bad at math... I assume their developers passed basic high school math right?

R.I.P Tanks.

This is very good because in pvp tanks can kill entire teams while taking zero damage. Made ESOs pvp the most ridiculous pvp of any mmo, and by far its worst feature.

The name of the game is lie, lie, lie and then give excuses, excuses, excuses. There is no accountability anymore. Get your act together ZOS. Don't ruin your game just so you can say 'I fixed it!'. That's an old con. We're all more than sick and tired of con men and slimy behavior.

This is why quit and went to ff14. Zos and eso are both dogshit.

ESO is an embarrasing bugfest that ZOS doesnt care to fix as long as you keep shoveling money at them. You cant even pvp in cyrodiil cause the lag spikes will eat your inputs. This game is barely more than the failure fallout 76 was, and by the same people. Don't waste your money on this horrible game black desert is better