Your Next Monitor Is A Keeper! - AdaptiveSync Explained

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@MonkWithoutACause 2 года назад

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@bamffatboi5526 2 года назад

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@emmerad 2 года назад

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@David-ty6my 2 года назад

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@prich0382 2 года назад

@@David-ty6my You clearly didn't read, It has a free and Premium option

@Settiis 2 года назад

Monitor markets need waaay more standardization overall. Tired of going through tons of different monitors to find the features I’m looking for and actually making sure they work as advertised.

@Vaisero 2 года назад

then you buy it and realise you missed one detail or read one wrong, or the light bleed on the corners is waaaay too much :(

@benjaminoechsli1941 2 года назад

Precisely why channels like Hardware Unboxed do so well. Quality reviews save the average consumer a headache and a half.

@thecoon3193 2 года назад

@@Vaisero I honestly find it ridiculous they can get away with such bad QC. What other product can you buy that has massive visual defects and the manufacturer just goes ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ "it being shit is normal"

@RAHelllord 2 года назад

@@thecoon3193 Tesla cars, some Apple products recently, and US politicians spring to mind.

@MrVaradir 2 года назад

And getting an ACTUAL independent verification judgement procedure would also push monitor manufacturers to provide the specs their monitors could achieve in day-day usage, straight out-of-the-box, rather than controlled tests from a lab with biased graphs and perfectly controlled climate.... speaking of climate, I'd love to see some form of "non-room temperature" testing data by independent sources too so one might maybe find a suitable display for their "room temp" that 30-35 degrees CELSIUS on a "normal" summer day [or to show wether one should mount some active cooling solution to the back to keep it relatively operational at "given specs"]

@Satelitko 2 года назад

What I absolutely hate is monitors that have one feature only work if another is disabled. It drives me insane that they can list all the features as present on the monitor when you can't use them concurrently.

@quantum5661 2 года назад

god yes, my monitor has either BFI or VRR. why the fuck cant i have both when one of them is literally just toggling the lightbulb real fast? atleast it was 30% off.

@tim3172 2 года назад

@@quantum5661 Because it inserts black frames between each frame. How dafuq would it know how or where to insert a black frame when... the frame rate varies based on the graphics complexity and graphics card's ability to output frames (to which, the monitor has no insight?) The fact that multiple people upvoted your comment makes me weep for humanity.

@______926 2 года назад

@@tim3172 I'm with you sir.

@yuxuanhuang3523 2 года назад

@@tim3172 Well，it techenically could turn off the back light when it changes from frame to frame. However that is expensive to do because it takes extra computing. or it just may be developers being lazy with debugging all configurations in firmware

@dae8837 2 года назад

@Helmut Lmao

@dukcy7450 2 года назад

finally, we dont have to graze through endless amazon comments to figure out if the monitor is truly gsync, and not some garbage marketing.

@jablue4329 2 года назад

Suggestion: Hardware Unboxed. There's way more to a monitor, and they make very good content regarding not just features but how well they're actually implemented. A lot of hardware just tries to hit check boxes for a spec-sheet

@mingyi456 2 года назад

@@jablue4329 Sadly the number of monitors Tim can review is limited.

@dukcy7450 2 года назад

@@mingyi456 it does give you a good selection for price range though

@Batyalas 2 года назад

if this standard becomes more mainstream, I will be so happy

@RK-tx5lb 2 года назад

Yeah.. another logo that the manufacturers can use to jack up their prices....

@tim3172 2 года назад

@@RK-tx5lb The prices get "jacked up" because logos typically translate to licenses. This is a no-cost standard so your comment is nonsensical.

@RK-tx5lb 2 года назад

@@tim3172 No it's not, it's just simple economics. The standard may be no-cost for the manufacturer, but the customer doesn't know and doesn't care. but the logo is important for the customer, because it means good quality. The manufacturer knows this and raises the price of the product with the logo, just because he can. the customer will pay anyway, because he wants the product with the logo. Simple as that.

@AnimatorBlake 2 года назад

@@RK-tx5lb Marketing, not economics. But yes, if the logo raises "willingness to pay" more than the cost of licensing it, they'll use it.

@Remyie 2 года назад

This is huge. Finally, monitors with actual specs. My 1ms monitor had horrible ghosting at darker colors.

@thronritter6295 2 года назад

Still will have ghosting lol

@ufoslattt9582 2 года назад

Its because your monitor probaly has a va panel get a monitor with an ips panel if u want to get rid of it

@TheHrabeMi 2 года назад

@@ufoslattt9582 I've got an IPS and it still has ghosting :(

@lloydaran 2 года назад

I actually don't like that my monitor can't use VRR BELOW 60 Hz... That's a questionable minimum range, since my GPU usually goes down to 40 FPS or so with heavily demanding games, while it does exceed 144 with less demanding titles.

@JessicaFEREM 2 года назад

VRR should allow you to have zeroHz imo if you're parked on the desktop there's no reason for the display to update. also it should allow for 24FPS video playback since that's the movie standard.

@camilofuentes7056 2 года назад

perhaps below 60fps the monitor doesn't need vrr at that refresh rate because starts duplicating frames at 120hz(?) if you go at 40fps the monitor refreshes at 80hz internally? im guessing so don't @ me, im not sure but seems logical to me

@BearsEatPuddin 2 года назад

@@JessicaFEREM it doesnt work like that the image you are seeing is dependent on the gpu or the integrated graphics on a cpu. 60 is the bare minimum can't go to zero, if the bottom line is going to always be 60hz if you're starting to get to the point where your gpu is starting to get really old where software updates can't help it anymore its time to move on. unless you use it for a small use case like browsing the web wathcing videos. if you do care about quality always try to go as high as possible for the time so it last long enough .

@burakdemir7497 2 года назад

it shouldn't be a problem if the monitor has 100+ hz and LFC

@IIARROWS 2 года назад

@@JessicaFEREM If it can display any multiple, like 48, 72, 96, or just that 144 (it's not a random number), then it's fine. The frame rate is constant, it doesn't need to be able to fluctuate that low like a game

@LupusGr3y 2 года назад

Hopefully one day, you also get specs on how low the nits can go so I can find a monitor that doesn't require dark mode on everything.

@RickLeMon 2 года назад

I've had to completely mess up the color settings on my main monitor just so I can get it dark enough that it doesn't give me a migraine.

@Friedbrain11 2 года назад

Finally, a test program that actually tests independently and accurately. Now I can get a real monitor that actually has Freesync that works.

@aeueeaia 2 года назад

I love the outtro, that delivery was not easy and Riley you nailed it

@wolfwaya 2 года назад

4:24 I bought the 27" version of that monitor (LG Ultragear) about a year ago. I fell in love with it when i first got it.

@electricminecrafter 2 года назад

Thanks for the vid i am actually saving up for a new monitor RN so i will prob wait a bit for this to arrive commonly

@MrVaradir 2 года назад

Nice new certifications! So much clearer than anything related with USB versioning...

@sieg131 2 года назад

That CSF icecream idea is great, Bell you really think of great ideas!

@agcz789 2 года назад

Seeing Leeds diss in LTT was something that i was not expecting to happen

@gregoralexander6202 2 года назад

Thank you for this video. very useful

@nandanreddyp 2 года назад

I appreciate the way you present content and sponser...

@M3h3ndr3 2 года назад

Independant testing facilities

@tomb3782 2 года назад

Nice! Go VESA!

@deilusi 2 года назад

I love it, that's always great help, if only they will keep it forward.

@whovee6685 2 года назад

Techquickie is in my head! I was literally just looking at monitors and googling “how important is gsync?”

@sunnygalli 2 года назад

as a gaming monitor? very important, gsync compatible, vs gsync, vs gsync ultimate doesnt matter quite as much.

@Ephoros 2 года назад

Currently on a 27 inch 72 hz Samsung screen with freesync and Radeon card. Damn it's awesome. Also squezing the most out of the system is easier because of all those upscaling and Target FPS settings. I can see in telemetry that card workload is chaning, yet the game stays at solid 72fps, and when it doesnt, freesync takes over and it continues to look great.

@Oshadorin 2 года назад

It was the most important thing for me, so much that I waited months without a monitor to buy the first G-Sync monitor in August 2014, which is still alive today

@nicoper 2 года назад

As someone who recently upgraded from a decade old 23" 1080p@60Hz monitor to a gsync compatible 27" 1440p@165Hz monitor, I absolutely love it.

@quantum5661 2 года назад

some type of VRR is fucking critical unless you have the most overbuilt gpu ever

@maozedowner5915 2 года назад

The fact tha Response time figure is worthless makes picking monitor so much more difficult is ridiculous. I'm sure Hardware Unboxed are happy for this. I wish they have HDR performance standard as well.

@itsdeonlol 2 года назад

Thanks Riley!

@tiaxanderson9725 2 года назад

While not perfect, this sounds like a huge improvement. Can we get these VESA people to look over USB as well?

@karthikeyapotluri2133 2 года назад

I love how your videos are perfectly timed with questions I have running in my mind

@KowalskiStyL 2 года назад

I think something we all wanted to know was if the manufacturer will have to pay for the certification and if so, I'm sure budget brands are still going to cut cost by avoiding that and we will still be left confused wondering if a TCL or some other generic/semigeneric brand will be supported.

@RayRayIsCoolio 2 года назад

so far I've been pretty happy with my Dell S2716DGR. One day I'll get something with a better panel and higher refresh rate but for now its working great!

@BerserkBrownie 2 года назад

vesa meeting: so we have to decide how far to keep the holes on monitors... vesa member 2: 100mmx 100mm? vesa member 1: PERFECT!! MORE? vesa member 3: 200mm x 200mm? Vesa member 1: AWESOME KEEP GOING!!! vesa member 2: 300 mm x 300mm?? riley: i love these guys!

@BroadcastTV.g 2 года назад

editing is improving nice

@istevens78 2 года назад

VESA, the people that gave us "HDR" 400. 🙄

@Maginus-Sama 2 года назад

I know right...

@Oshadorin 2 года назад

Yeah not their best work. But they have done way more good than bad for the industry. DisplayPort and the monitor holes on the back are 2 great examples

@sircommissar 2 года назад

Yes, I don't see how it's a bad thing. They gave you a way to look at a box and see it has basically no hdr support. Without it the box would just say hdr and you might think it was good

@freevbucks8019 2 года назад

hey, vesa hdr 400 means that it's guaranteed to hit 400 nits peak.

@Maginus-Sama 2 года назад

@@freevbucks8019 any NORMAL tv or monitor hits around 400 nits!!!!

@tramcrazy 2 года назад

This should be useful when I eventually buy a monitor to replace the near-15yo LCD TV that I use with my PC currently (not gaming, don’t worry 😂)

@Moriandrizzt 2 года назад

I watch your videos mostly because of your personality. Keep on rocking it dude!

@pixelrangerstudio86 2 года назад

Goose from top gun is doing tech news. Awesome!

@VitorMach 2 года назад

Looking at you, Odyssey G series freesync flicker

@Elliott13 2 года назад

Great video

@IndianTrainSimulator 2 года назад

Having experienced G Sync and Freesync for the first time on my non certified Acer VG270 monitor, I am actually surprised how well both of these technologies actually work!

@DragoonDark97 2 года назад

I have a Samsung Odyssey G7 32 and I love it

@regnam503 2 года назад

So basically now you have to keep track of a hundred performance indicators PLUS a new standard. Cool, that's a huge help.

@Avengeddeath856 Год назад

Should I have adaptive sync on and overdrive on extreme?

@Nastrahl 2 года назад

So if I don’t care about tearing since I’m accustomed to since 1998 by playing without vertical sync (in comparison of 120+Hz that is a real change in visual confort), I should not care about that certification? Or did I miss something?

@consoleonlygaming 2 года назад

Love the thumbnail 👌

@KillaV91 2 года назад

Love the Leeds United LOGO! 🥳

@killerhawks 2 года назад

Love the idea..

@iainburgess8577 2 года назад

... so is this a one test badge, or is there periodic testing to watch for cost creep or component swaps?

@ragetist 2 года назад

This is actually great news

@the_kombinator 2 года назад

Hah, I bought a 23 inch BenQ in... 2007? I was wondering what I did with it, when on a recent trip to Korea, I remembered that my brother in law received it. Still works, no dead pixels. Fair, not a gaming monitor, but damn, trooper.

@Cruzz999 2 года назад

It hardly helps unless it can be made to work with borderless windowed mode in most apps though. I've got a gsync compatible monitor, but the fact that I have to choose between borderless window and gsync just means I never use it.

@antoniologiudice5499 2 года назад

in the nvidia settings where you activate gsync there is an option to eneable gsync in windows AND full screen

@magmachicken4402 2 года назад

Thanks vesa

@francescathomas3502 Год назад

These new standards are only available in 2022? Where were they 10 years ago? My monitor is now 11 years old and I love it. The only "rating" it has that I am aware of - is HDMI (whatever that means) which shows up every time the PC is booted up and the monitor is turned on.

@Vaisero 2 года назад

hopefully this goes ahead.

@atsekbatman 2 года назад

03:40, what was that?! I dont know and I dont care, but I loved it!

@hp_860_4 8 месяцев назад

so I just got a gaming monitor and I play on a PS5. my question is this, I have an option on my 165hz monitor for adaptive sync under the gaming options. should I be turning this on? I play games like Call of Duty and Fortnite and just want to know should this be on? or off?

@TheQuickBrickWalker 2 года назад

So, when is the CSF ice cream video going to be released?

@frankallen3634 2 года назад

My "monitor" is my 83" LG G2 so yeah it works perfectly for gaming no matter if it's my rig or my PS5.

@GamerSpencer 2 года назад

And I never expected to see a Leeds United football team logo on an LTT video... or Techquickie in this case...

@ff11dream 2 года назад

Sure is

@NekoBoyOfficial 2 года назад

Anti-glare like on BenQ monitors is a game changer for me. Should be made for TVs too.

@User97sweden Год назад

Dose adaptiv sync work for readeon graphic cards?

@PositiveEmo 2 года назад

Make a new one how many logos does a monitor need before I buy it. Does the eye logo affect performance? What about the dragon?

@MetalMan1245 2 года назад

Fair.

@Damian-ln3it 7 месяцев назад

I looking at buying a monitor is got adaptive sync, will it work with my amd card ?

@MaszekMester 2 года назад

I dont get this sync thingy.. I perfectly fine with the tear. Altough i do understand ppl who need it. It looks better but i prefer the extra 1-2 fps

@Dellphox 2 года назад

I bought a high-end 1440p/165hz Gsync monitor back in 2018 and have no urge to upgrade, the only thing it is missing is HDR but HDR is kinda crap on PC since most monitors are fake HDR unless you spend big money.

@iprfenix 2 года назад

The other issue with HDR on PC is that Windows implementation of HDR is absolutely terrible. It's on the level of "my car was not designed to have headlights so I'm going to duct-tape desk lamps onto the hood" bad.

@antoniologiudice5499 2 года назад

@@iprfenix at this point we should just get an qd oled,that's a passive improvement of image quality without relying on hdr compatibility

@battlebuddy4517 2 года назад

@@iprfenix and on Linux side of things they never heard of hdr lol

@mrknighttheitguy8434 2 года назад

Always like a Riley video!

@oyuntuazg7491 2 года назад

I’ve been watching your videos for over a year now, and I’ve got a question: why don’t you use Oreol Staking???

@codys1108 2 года назад

It's funny that they made an ode to RTINGS and also creating their own labs.

@cruiser2673 6 месяцев назад

Does Adaptive-Sync cause input lag?

@DeusDracones 2 года назад

The day we see 27" in 240hz, 4K, HDR600+ that will be the last monitor. Being able switch between 1080p and 4K depending on the game I'm playing until the RTX 6000 series can do 4K 240hz as an upgrade later on.

@Ijustpullingeneral 4 месяца назад

My monitor tops out at 1080p true with 165 hz and 1 Ms should I upgrade to a 4k monitor or 1440 for my ps5/series X?

@RannonSi 2 года назад

In other words, we need lists on what's covered by the standards and on what we need to check reviews for.

@dpptd30 11 месяцев назад

Free-sync or g-sync didn’t solve tearing, they just force v sync on by default in game to prevent the frame rate from exceeding the monitor’s refresh rate.

@RachelDavis705 2 года назад

The Leeds United logo lol

@duncanidaho5834 7 месяцев назад

Cool thumbnail *visibly dripping with sarcasm*

@5urg3x 2 года назад

I would love to see HDMI go away and just be replaced by DisplayPort - VESA are so much better at this than the TV industry

@RabianskiT 2 года назад

No way. HDMI isn’t going anywhere. At least until ALL TVs stop using it as a golden standard. (I know that your post is about monitors not TVs, BUT the separation between them is now blurrier than ever!)

@quantum5661 2 года назад

HDMI has so much better detection. when i turn my DP monitor off and on it resizes and moves every. single. fucking. window. unless DP can manage that, HDMI is never going to die.

@5urg3x 2 года назад

@@quantum5661 That has absolutely jack to do with HDMI or DP. That’s a bug with whatever OS or window management system or graphics drivers you’re using, lmao.

@5urg3x 2 года назад

@@RabianskiT I know it isn’t, I’m saying I WISH it would, though. HDMI sucks. You have absolutely no idea what you’re getting if you just go by the “HDMI 2.1” spec. Does it support the full 48Gbps FRL 12gb/s per lane bandwidth? Does it support eARC? ALLM? VRR? There’s virtually no way of knowing unless you test it.

@quantum5661 2 года назад

@@5urg3x yeah, well. it doesnt fucking happen when i use HDMI now does it.

@greylawson6352 2 года назад

I get horrible ghosting in games like Fortnite and Halo Infinite when I use G-sync or Free-sync on my odyssey G7, sucks too because that monitor actually has a dedicated G-sync module

@zickzir2240 2 года назад

Played games for 7 years on pc and before that from the original xbox and up when i was a kid and never have i seen screen tearing. and yes i did play professional shooters in top ranks ;)

@tans117 2 года назад

Thanks for the heads up @Techquickie all these branding schemes are getting out of hand.

@hunn20004 2 года назад

My current monitor is a keeper tho? Neo G9. Just a few more payments

@Mart-E12 2 года назад

Freesync premium on my monitor keeps messing up as the hz keeps jumping all around the actual framerate causing microstutters Idk why

@andrewsutton6640 2 года назад

Hmmm, heat improves monitor performance?

@Ta5. 2 года назад

4:45 yes, I do want.

@xorkatoss 2 года назад

meh I bought my AOC 24G2U 2 years ago, 23.8'' IPS 1080p 144hz 1ms and FreeSync, it's definitely amazing! the only problem is that my puny GTX 1050 Ti can rarely output 144fps LOL! might upgrade to an RTX3050 in the future but we will see :)

@areebfazli 11 месяцев назад

Can I use gsync with gtx 760?

@diffsoun 2 года назад

every tech quickie should be riley

@Platinumdose420 2 года назад

love this guy haha

@rallen2410 2 года назад

lmaoo the leeds united logo

@Z4KIUS 2 года назад

it doesn't mean it's good, it only means it's not as bad as some others would be but to get a good monitor with a currently available tech you have to pray for QD-OLED, as uLED are still being postponed sure, it needs a good set of electronics to control that panel, but using LCD instead makes it sub-par, even with the best controller

@pizzamizza2375 2 года назад

me using a small tv as a monitor: "hm interesting"

@MrIrondog55 2 года назад

Good vid. Also, don't block Riley's pipe. It will make him really sad. And no-one wants sad Riley!

@ralphmiranda2077 2 года назад

Awesome…when?!

@lancegabionza7287 2 года назад

@2:31 snooze that alarm

@MrMegaPussyPlayer 2 года назад

4:49 I'm pretty sure, the cheapo screens (under €200) I bought 2 years ago will (have to) last the rest of my life.

@peterkambasis 2 года назад

VAY-SA IN YOUR FACE-SA, little Ani -Jar Jar

@xXRenaxChanXx 3 месяца назад

Too bad they don't seem to give a shit about properly enforcing the standard. Almost every single "VESA AdaptiveSync" monitor I've seen have all been re-brands of Freesync monitors that physically CANNOT support the standard because they literally don't have Display Port.

@insu_na 2 года назад

I won't get a next monitor until in 10-20 years, until they finally manage to get a 120hz 4k oled into a reasonable form factor. Gods I hate display manufacturers.

@pixels_per_inch 2 года назад

You can get a phone with those specs but not a monitor?

@tyisafk 2 года назад

Makes me wonder why TV manufacturers are already there at a decent consumer price, but monitors aren't. imo Monitors should be at the forefront when developing these technologies, though I also tend to believe DisplayPort should have completely eradicated HDMI years ago so...

@insu_na 2 года назад

@@pixels_per_inch Yup. They make 4K OLED screens either phone sized or mega-tv sized. Nothing in between The smallest non-phone 4K OLED you can get is 48" For some people that may be acceptable, but that is literally the size of my entire desk. Where is my second monitor supposed to go? Edit: There is one notable exception, and that's a $4000 OLED Monitor from Dell that has a 60Hz refresh rate and *immediately* went out of production after production started Edit2: Forgot about laptops. Yes, you can also get 13"-14" laptops with a 4K OLED. Nothing with twice the size, tho.

@mingyi456 2 года назад

@@insu_na I think there are also 17 inch laptops with 4k oled. However, Alex has said he finds quite a few laptop oled screens to appear rather "dirty" when displaying the same colour throughout a significant portion of the screen.

@insu_na 2 года назад

@@Beerus26 Why would anyone want a VA panel? Do VA panels have 0.1-0.2ms pixel response times? No? Are they actually more in the 10-30ms range? I hate display manufacturers who claim 240hz or 360hz and then have pixel response times that are slower than 60hz... great, the smeary mess updates very fast.

@dnoodspodu1159 2 года назад

All hail unification!

@25566 2 года назад

I have freesync and it worked fine with my amd card, but with Nvidia it's a mess and I had to disable it..

@CYXXYC 2 года назад

the video url??

@Na0uta 2 года назад

Still waiting for a 32" 4k oled with freesync, HDR 500 or better, 120+ refersh rate (would prefer 165 or better but lets be reasonable), and for less then $500. I don't mind spending more, but I plan to get 3 so rather not go too high on price.

@MonkWithoutACause 2 года назад

Mostly a plexhead, I think maybe I let TV marketing & specs influence a decision to jump from 1080 monitor right to 4K too early, without ever looking at or understanding the 1440 market much less this great new variable-sync standardization.

@Oshadorin 2 года назад

Ouch. Those specs will arrive in the next 24 months on QD-OLED for sure, and better actually, but not for $500, more like 1200 to 2000 dollars. 500 bucks will not happen before we get better tech like the QNED nanorods, at affordable price too, so 10 years or so. If it happens at all

@Beltonius 2 года назад

Samesies

@billwiley7216 Год назад

Biggest issue still remains people trying to drive high resolution and high refresh rate monitors using hardware that is not actually up to the task they are asking it to do then expecting a magic bullet software adjustment that fixes their hardware deficiencies.