The era of pseudo self driving cars is ended. This is the era of people throwing themselves in front of self driving vehicles to get insurance compensations. The JUMPERS era.
Not only knowing your driver won't harass you, won't drive& text and hopping phones for pick up next rider, plus no driver will smoke in the car, lifesaving for allergy person! Honestly most annoying part is the small chat they trying get to know you, it is so uncomfortable.
no one is saying autonomous isn't gonna happen, it's a matter of who's gonna do it. I don't think Tesla will do it as they have low quality cameras and no radar or lidar sensors as backups. Waymo operates in difficult areas like san fran which has tons of pedestrians and tricky streets. Waymo can scale up to easier streets, but Tesla has to scale up their tech in order to go FSD.
I’ve been living in Los Angeles for 3 years now, and I never knew this car was “driverless” until recently. I was parked next to it and never looked at the driver,minding my own damn business. This car really drives good in LA. Recently, I saw people inside on the passenger side👀👍🏿.
The problem isn't that self driving cars won't cut down on fatalities; they will. They will not solve the problem of decades of car dependency and exclusionary zoning and lack of connectivity and poor public transit and so much more. By the way, we have had driverless trains for far longer than driverless cars. Montreal's REM has no driver. BART trains can in theory operate without any driver under ATC and now ATO. Also having thousands of self-driving cars opens up our infrastructure to devastating cyberattacks.
@@a-don13 When we think of public transport we usually don't think about private taxi-hailing services. No, public transit does not need to be publicly owned, but it does need to be for public benefit. The same self driving technology if applied on buses would makes buses far more efficient and allow increased capacity on bus lines, as opposed to cars that take up a lot of street space while only carrying up to 5 people at a time.
And no, I am not saying self-driving taxis don't have their place; as paratransit it can supplement public transit by solving the last mile problem for a lot of individuals with disabilities. But if everyone were to use it, the roads would be back to the same level of congestion, just with cars that drive themselves rather than human drivers.
But People dont want to live right next to a loud bar etc And People dont want to live in shoebox apartament And People dont want to Suflera in public transit When will you People finally understand that car dependecy is what normal People want And need Noone has time to waste for your virtuesignaling
@@faustinpippin9208 Suburbs and single family homes have existed forever. What hasn't existed was car dependency. By the way, the reason there are only high rise apartments and single family homes is that it is illegal to build anything else. Japanese cities also have single family homes, but they are nowhere as big as in the US or Australia because US cities set ridiculous things like minimum lot sizes and the like.
I am open to trying Waymo. However, I would absolutely not trust a Tesla Robotaxi. City driving is new, but highway driving is almost 7 years old. FSD still sometimes does not perform smooth merge into highways. I have devloped a thick skin but my family are scared to death. if anything changes, I will update this comment 5 years from now!
An experienced driver can anticipate the behavior of other drivers, specially bad drivers.. Cutting you off, not signaling properly, tailgating..... what is a camera going to do in these situation? Still, I would take my chance with the driverless taxi than deal with taxi drivers in most major cities.
But sooner in the future, I’m seeing mandates that would prohibit gas vehicles from licensing and registration and only electric-powered automated artificially intelligent smart vehicles that can communicate with each other are allowed on roadways. Eliminates traffic jams, road rage, high speed police chases, roadway takeover trends, carbon emissions and pollution. All in all a great plus for civilization.
Of course you can trust the car, just can't trust the people inside and outside that inadvertently will kick, smash, rob, loot, shoot and burn the robot car.
Waymo in some areas in San Francisco can be incredibly slow to arrive. They can be overly conservative for taking left turns, especially on San Franciscos multi-lane one-way streets, and during peak traffic may not get into the lane they need to, especially since few human drivers ever yield to an empty Waymo. I once waited 20 minutes for a Waymo less than a mile away. It eventually rerouted itself taking a much worse route. That ride also had a remote human take over when Waymo could manage somebody waiting for the Waymo to leave so it could reverse into a parking spot. Most of this could be fixed by other drivers courteously yielding to even empty Waymo changing lanes or turning onto a street like they would to another human driver. But in general the rides are fantastic and incredibly safe, especially routes well services by traffic signals that don't need Waymo to drive aggressively. Looking forward to Waymo on freeways, and the real killer app: taking Waymo to and from San Francisco airport.
The solution is to have Only self-driving cars on the road honestly. Then they communicate with each other and they can function as seamlessly as a computer handling video rendering tasks.
Taking Waymos to/from PHX airport has been a game changer!! I will never use Uber for this service again. Just can't wait for them to be approved for freeways here!! 🤞
Have current Tesla Full Self Driving, as 12.5.4 as of last week. It needs a good 5+ interventions to prevent crashes in my 15 mile/20 minute pretty basic drive into our town. Definitely not ready for driverless yet in that state.
In average, Tesla is at 70 miles between critical disengagements while Waymo is at 17,000. It will take Tesla centuries to solve FSD at the current pace.
Tesla also has placed themselves at a disadvantage focusing on camera sensors and AI. Which have greater long term potential at a higher short term risk.
Watch some FSD 12.5.5 videos, and not just one, watch for hours, I bet you'll change your mind - it's not perfect, but it solves driving to a far greater extent than Waymo does
Latest FSD Tesla, I seen one test drive going to incoming traffic. Tesla has relatively low resolution cameras compared to Waymo (which also uses LiDAR and radar). Musk is really Really good at hyping to pump the stock.
Lidar does not mean better it simply means more expensive and complicated. FSD is doing amazing things with its camera only approach. and is looking well placed to dominate in this space.
And sleep deprivation too, about as bad as being drunk if not worse. Humans are not to be trusted. Car accidents happen far more often with people anyways
Can we talk about how as a society we will need a social safety net so that when jobs inevitably get taken over by AI and automation, the people who are without jobs will be able to survive in a world that is becoming more expensive to live in? I don't see enough discussion about UBI or other social programs that will address the needs of every day citizens affected by incoming revolutionary technology.
@@arpitjain2591 And we will never run out of companies trying to pay less for those jobs. Its baked into the profit motive of every company and every investor - cut costs wherever possible. So... we go round an round until we die.
@@arpitjain2591 While I agree with you - it's how we will change is very uncertain at this point. Our government appears to be doing little in trying to get ahead of, plan for it. And as it seems corporations these days have a good amount of influence, things will not be fair for us humans, but I remain hopeful.
@@arpitjain2591 I think you're missing the point in that automation will wipe out a majority of manual labor jobs. I worry we will never recover from that and while yes new jobs will be created, not enough to make up for the amount that was loss to automation.
CNBC pretty sure if there ever is a situation where we start having a serious conversation about universal high income and universal maximum services due to the AI revolution juggernaut, that time is now. Since we have mini AGI now and in a few months we should see advanced robotics ramp up, this conversation has to start now and the presidential candidates are not even talking about it and the consequences seriously.
The ambulance-chasing lawyers are salivating over driverless cars. Every accident is a deep-pocket opportunity, since there's no driver to blame, only the company.
A human driver would’ve quickly realize what happened? Really? Oct 24th 2023 - The horrific collision occurred shortly after 9 a.m. in the area of 117th Street and Broadway. After the impact, the driver continued on for about a mile with the victim still connected to the vehicle. Surveillance video from Bo's Mini Market does not show the moment of impact, but the footage does show the driver not slowing down or stopping to render aid after striking the victim. This has happened by human drivers more than you may want to admit….
Probably alot safer than humans. So many bad drivers out there. Every day when I go out I see people not using their signals, speeding, swerving through lanes, cutting people off, brake checking, and so many more bad driving behavior. A computer that is specifically programmed to drive safely should be way more trusted than some random person behind the wheel. Right now we are in the phase we are training these systems with data. Eventually these systems are going to eliminate so many accidents.
For me, it’s important to realize that having humans totally involved in decision-making while driving is relatively new. For thousands of years, AI was the norm. The “A” could mean augmented, or auxiliary, or (better still) animal. If these computers can do better than a horse, we’re 99% of the way to total autonomous driving. Having something else making life-or-death decisions while driving isn’t novel.
The anticipated October 10th failure. Whomever is purchasing stocks anticipating success will be earning the Tesla Fanboy certification. Waymo is so far ahead, I hope that it reaches the East Coast soon.
Why isn't the Los Angeles Metropolitan of public transportation going with self driving buses if the reports show that they're safer navigating around public streets than human drivers. Sounds like the company is only focusing putting these self driving vehicles on high end cities.
Apple abandoned self driving after investing $10 billion and 10 years stating that the AI and the hardware is not advanced enough, it could be decades before it's fully possible on any roads in any weather conditions.
Nah Apple abandoned their self driving car project because they’re way behind with AI and they’re now playing catch up, they’re not even a major player now. When you talk about AI currently, what comes to mind are ChatGPT, Gemini, CoPilot, Grok, FSD, Meta..
I don't see investing billions in something just to save some bucks that results the driver's profits. And all these cars full of expensive tech are easy targets for crime and malfunction
9:57 - CNBS keeps perpetuating the narrative that the disparity in interventions is a result of cameras vs cameras+lidar. If you've watched videos of Tesla FSD or better yet, experienced it yourself, then you'll realize that the interventions have nothing to do with the car's perception. FSD 12.5 makes dumb mistakes (though increasingly less so) such as wrong lane, changing lanes at inopportune times, driving under speed limit, etc. The interventions have nothing to do with the inability to see. They have to do with the computer making the wrong decisions. LIDAR/Radar will not resolve that or make it any easier. Although FSD 12.5 makes these dumb mistakes, unlike Waymo, it has the potential ability to drive anywhere. Waymo is limited to certain geofenced areas. Tesla would argue that they're working to solve generalized self driving vs specialized self driving. The winner won't necessarily be the first to market. The winner will be the first to mass market.
Teleportation already works i see it being used alll the time by witches and wizards in new orleans and i also witnwssed it one time in hongkong the woman just poped up afrer a guz of wind i was shocked to the bone i wet my self and she spoke french to me i only heard something like baise de blackie .....i hate that old woman....
Build rails, biking infrastracture, and walkable neighborhoods through mixed use zoning. Americans will just do about anything but move away from car-dependency.
Because they dont make sense for america. I dont get how people dont understand that all technology shouldn't work for every community. That europe issue. They keep trying to apply american tech to europe and it doesnt work. We dont have the same issues
I'm all for this!! Also being able to subscribe to a car service rather than everyone owning a personal car will help convert people who just like getting around by car
At 2:18 "What hinders its progress, is skepticism." No! What hinders this technology is safety and high prices! Who's got $60 to take a robotaxi 1 mile. It's obscene. Robotaxis are for the rich.
This is the future in City transportation, don't see it used in rural areas soon but for cities is great solution, can't wait for Mate Rimac to start Verne autonomous vehicles program here in Europe ❤❤❤
Thank you for calling out Elon Musk on his unreliable forecasts. I own a Tesla Model 3 with”FSD” capability. I rarely put my car in FSD mode any more because it makes poor choices so often that it is easier and less frustrating to just drive it myself. When I do use FSD, I have to intervene multiple times, even within a mile of my own home. A route the car should know well. I would not trust anything you see on Oct 10th Elon Musk or Tesla. It’s a shame because AutoSteer is very good - not perfect but good and the car itself is very comfortable to drive and extremely reliable.
The Waymo driver intervention stat isn't right. Any time the car doesn't know what to do and "calls home" for help, having someone remotely take over and decide what to do. They do NOT count those as critical interventions. That's fine 'n all, but it means you cannot compare that number to numbers which do count any and all take over events. Apples & oranges. Public trust will get there w/ robotaxis, but it'll take time. Not as much for some folk, certainly more for others.
Remote assistants can not steer the car due to latency issues. They can only give the car waypoints or suggestions if the car is stuck. Also, these events are considered interventions.
You can tell that Waymo's model is relatively simple and hard-coded by the fact that Chinese companies have easily surpassed it. There's little real value in it, as any company with access to similar sensors could replicate their approach.
Give it 10 years and we‘ll be there. Some things just take time, technologically everything is there, it just needs to get more refined, in computing speed, database depth and technology finesse. Fine tuning, if you will.
The 1st thing is....... Spouses who want that life insurance. Political figures. H.V.T.s Now who is going to make sure these can't get hacked and drive down the wrong way of the road? The reason I bring this up is the p vs np coding issue. Once everything that is np, turns out to be a p, (like reprogrammed cars that crash on purpose). Find out that issue, and make it so it will never happen. And we got a deal.
0:00 "Driverless cars are here" Is this a recap from 2016 or some other year? 0:48 "Track record of empty promises" about Tesla 😅 So true 😂 The CEO should be in jail along with Trevor Milton and Elizabeth Holmes for the fake 2016 video put out by his company.
People drive way worse than a computer does. If humanity survives the next 200 years without any major incidents, I absolutely see it being illegal for people to drive their own cars because it will be too prone to crashes. At best you may have separate lanes.
11:45 no wonder people today are anti-social and awkward, always looking for ways to avoid human interaction. I always like doing a bit of small talk when i take uber
My main concern is how to survive all of these financial and political crisis, especially in light of the US political power scuffle. The government has really called things more difficult for its citizens, and we can't sit back and bear all the consequences of the bad governance!!!.
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Seattle area tried them fora while. If passengers could sit in the dirver seet they could over ride the car if need be just like a testla. Seattle area these cars cuased a lot of traffic jams but it didn't help that ass holes would put blocking things over the camera sensors which can be dangerous as well. We've used the rental cars where they drive it to your home then you take it to the airport then they take it away. This worked well. No need to worry about ride share drivers robbing your home once gone.
Tesla FSD is way advanced ... It is a general model for every road. Not like waym, which need a maping of each and every road. Permanent and temporary change on the road craete higher confusion on waymo system... Tesla FSD advancement in these few months is huge
Waymo will be the first true robotaxi, but they need to scale down their sensor suite or make it cheaper and scale their production up and where they operate. They can do it though, as they have been proving that they can do it, not just lying like Musk has done for 10 years now.
Missing 1 key point here, Waymo only drive in major cities and not in highway (began testing recently, not publicly available yet). The use case and test case of Waymo and Tesla is not the same for now. We will see a lot of change in the next 12 months based on both companies recent news. Only then it can be compared more accurately
You know by experience that driving on the highway is way easier than driving in the city. I think it's quite obvious that Waymo will be faster to put their car in highway.
Very interesting subject, but the video doesnt say anything. It just recaps old information. I kinda feel cheated. Obviously made just to generate clicks/ad revenue, etc.
no they likely will not be. if anything, recent AI data has shown a plateauing of some asymptotic maximum with regards to data mining techniques, including visual categorization.
@@chihchang1139 because “AI” looks at constructed data - all human-generated information is nothing compared to real video data from millions of cars driving dozens of miles every day
