Your Synapse Reactions! Is BB30 DEAD? New Canyon Endurace 2022 launched 

For me, external seat clamp, threaded BB and sensible cable routing all makes sense for an endurance bike. But if I want to do a winter Audax I need some luggage, and the lights make that almost impossible, and the battery puts the bottle higher up the down tube, that will limit the volume of liquid short riders can carry. In short, the electronic package limits the bike to short rides, which seems a bit daft for a distance bike.

I really do appreciate the detail you go through in your videos! This channel is becoming my favorite one!

I love the switch to the threaded bb, and the ease of routing, and even going back to 27.2, which makes it easy to swap out for a preferred seat post. They did some really great things in my opinion. Having to have the unwanted tech however, not so much.

Hi, threaded bottom bracket is using outer nuts with pressed in bearings so the only difference is the frame interface and its ease of manufacturing. And the moment when we all accepted a bit heavier bikes acknowledging aero is king compared to weight, frame manufacturers can get back to inner aluminium sleeves with threads which are easier to be produced precisely and are easier to be maintained. Biggest true is as David said, press-fit works well if done well and properly, and thats down to manufacturing costs of frame production. And given we don't prices going down it is more about space for margin:-)

Great content, as always. REALLY GLAD Cannondale took their first step away from BB30 in over 20-years. I hope the next iteration of the SusperSix features threaded bottom bracket and 27.2mil seat post. (Personally, I love the external seat post collar...) As for the new Synapse; I really love it and while I think the integrated lighting is a bit presumptive on Cannondale's part, I really love the radar sensing tech that has found its way into a modern 'all road' platform.

To cross thread a 1,37x24 or ITA 36x24 mm BB shell in a bike frame takes some doing! A MECHANIC not a pizza maker would FIRST pass a BB thread cleaning tool through the shell, AND THEN clean it with compressed air, and degreasing solvent,and then move on to assembling the BB cups. Most pizza makers on the otherhand, just take a hammer to the BB30 cups n bearing assemblies and Knock em in and out!!!! Thus giving you a SIS (Shimano Index System for those who don't know what SIS means) style bearing rotation feel. Great vids David as usual, honest and thorough!

I really like the Cannondale and there is some well thought out features. The lights would be ok if their was some brighter options. Great for daytime as is but I commute regularly on 800 lumens and often need more. I like Cervelos approach with their Caledonia. Optional brackets that fit to sat nav mounts and saddle clamps with a Go-Pro fitting. Gives you a lot more options!

Yes, that's true. Technology seems to moves sometimes two steps forward and one step back.

Great job! I like what Cannondale has done in every regard except for forcing a light/radar system on the buyer. I think a better way to have gone for the buyer would be to incorporate features that would facilitate a clean install of these features IF the customer wanted. Similar to having mud guard mounts incorporated on a frame to allows for a clean, secure installation of mud guards.

There seem to be rim brake versions of the aluminium Endurace as well, available from The Netherlands

the lights and radar option only really make sense if the batttery also does electronic gears. One integrated system that way.

Great follow-up. Thanks.

Hi David just wanted to let you know that I just put down a deposit on a Fairlight Secan 2.5 in Pearlescent Plum. Unfortunately delivery won't be till June. Thanks for all your great videos and the tip on Fairlight frames. Steel is Real!!!

My dad was a bike mechanic for 40+ years, and in his shop, I have witnessed lots of seized threaded BB, rounded off small knots, cracked paintwork, injured hands and you name it. Press-fit BB are easy to install with the proper tools, harder to get out, but far from impossible. No paint scratch, no creeks. The bad reputation that a lot of press-fit BB have earned is not surprisingly down to cost. Even the best Shimano BB is almost pure plastic for less than 20 Euros, whereas you can go and buy a good quality BB from Wheels Manufacturing, C-bear from Belgium or Ceramic Speed, and you will notice the differences straight away. I went with C-bear, and have only nice things to tell after more than 2000 km bedding in. As always were good work from Just Ride Bikes!

I watched the Synapse video but forgot to leave a comment there. I think, it’s great for someone who has a lot of money and is just about to enter the market. It’s a pay and ride bike. No need to hunt for lights upon purchase. The lights are fit and forget which is quite nice. However, for people who already have been riding for years, I am sure they already have a set of preferred lights. BUT, I can still see how nice it is to not having to change lights as you change bikes. Pay and just ride the bike. In this case, it was the new Synapse. I think the idea is nice. Going to threaded BB and standard seatpost is nice too. Weight weenies can go to MCFK, Darimo and THM if they’d like.

Battery looks like 90's cell phone😁Hillarious!

These new Canyon bikes seem to offer a lot of value for money, something I have not seen for quite a while... AND they seem to be available! That's even more incredible... Endurace CF SL 8 Aero for 4.8k Euro, which comes with carbon wheels, Ultegra Di2, powermeter, ... That is in the 6k and up league for other main brands... The new Endurance SL & SLX are already on the site in Belgium/Netherlands (and available for order with delivery in March)

I am about to update my Dura Ace Cannondale Super Six Evo. I would like a Synapse but feel like the external battery and lights has made me go to another brand of bike instead.

Hi Dave you mentioned the Endurance has 650 wheels on the XXS, I can't see it on the website when I select the bike, shouldn't the call that out?

Great quality content. Thanks I was shocked by the price of the new Endurace CF8 Disc Di2 which is 3999€ about 500€ more than old model or old Ultimate with Di2.

Love the design of the new Synapse but the smart sense system if kind of a meh from me. Given that it's an endurance road bike I'd prefer to lose the battery and add an extra bottle cage to the front triangle. Unless you get the top spec that has an integrated cockpit the light mounting looks a little clunky.

I have ridden the old synapse and loved it. Was looking forward to the new synapse as I'm soon going to be in the market for a new road bike (probably with a endurance flavour). Cannondale appear to have totally ruined it! Threaded BB and external seat clamp excellent, but wtf were they thinking with the battery pack and lighting. Defeat from the jaws of victory!

New Canyon Endurace CF8, Ultegra, 8.3kg £2299 Cannondale Synapse Carbon 2, Ultegra, 9.89kg £4000 Hmm now let me think which to buy!😆

On a bike with an endurance geometry I can certainly see the point of not having entirely integrated cable routing.

Yay for threaded BB 🙏 it’s one of the first specs I look for before throwing 💰 at a bike. Literally makes or breaks my purchase.

i've been looking for a rim break bike in 2023 thats in stock and it seems nearly impossible to find, but this Canyon 8 looks absolutely classy. I wish this came in a rim break option would be perfect.

Granted we're in a pandemic but I'm still waiting for Canyon to send me a replacement fork for my Canyon Grail-On (it's been around six months now). It's very challenging to use a non-Canyon fork for the Grail-On. Something to consider when buying Canyon...

I may have misunderstood but I think the Canyon website states the entry level Endurace (alloy) has a BSA threaded BB.

the Canyon direct-to-consumer pricing is always going to be better than the equivalent spec from a traditional LBS sales channel model. Personally, dropped seat stays and the threaded BB are winners on the Cannondale for me. I expect the top-end Endurace with a Dura-Ace groupset to be a good 2,000 GBP less than the Synapse however. That's hard to argue with, especially in these economically and inflationary challenging times. Will be interested to see weight differences; obviously the Cannondale will be penalized by the integrated light and radar system weight, I don't see that as a huge negative however as I'd be interested in either bike more for off-season riding where lights and indeed radar would be more of a necessity than a pared-down racing machine for summer riding (smaller lights still required for safety)

Good review.

Im torn between Canyon endurace AL 7 and the trek domane equivalent? Can you help? Thanks

Any idea why the CF 9.0 disappeared from their catalog ? Got mine in 2018 at 7.2kg for 1600€...

I wonder if they just went with a BSA to make more room for the cables around the BB with the lights and other internal routing......You know, since its 5mm less diameter at the spindle.

Question: does the radar work in cities? DC Rainmaker reviewed the Varia radar and indicated that it was pretty lacklustre for city use. One comment on that vid suggests that it is useful, but "If a car is right behind you traveling at the same speed, the warning light strip turns green, so there is a blind spot."

I think the Synapse is just kind of fine. Given what the bike is really geared towards the external routing isn't that big of a deal. I personally don't like the look but it's not a deal breaker. The battery...I wish that was better integrated it feels like an after thought. They could have done some kind of in frame storage solution. Overall I think it's a fine bike. I don't need see myself buying one just because it's that need is already filled

Spotted : the new Endurace CF also has different Geo. It gets more stack and shorter Top Tube! - as opposed to what Canyon states on their site "it shares geometry with the CLX etc etc"

I wonder what is the real clearance for the Endurace. 700x40 might be possible?

wonder what Giant does with the Defy ... and when

Didn't they say , there will be certain models without the smart features ? If so, this bike would be perfect for me. I'm interested though if the fork is proprietary.

The issue with pressfit is not that they were bad the problem is that they require high tolerances and as far as I understand from mechanics there’s only two brands that really got it right with pressfits it would be look and BMC. Most brands were either too tight or too loose made a ton of noises were parallel. And then there was a bunch of shady companies that would just not take care of their warranties

Thanks for this video.

personally I see the move on the BB a good thing but what does it really shows some manufacturers can't make a round hole within torranace PF was never the issue, manufacturer making bikes out of spec is. Also the ride sense is a good idea with the lights imo but I hate the service data you haven't really touched on... The bike brings up when a service is due etc via the APP. I can see the way this will go soon we will be tied into service plans etc. So simple becomes so complicated

Maybe the 27mm seat post is for future dropper seat posts options

Nice to see a return of good value bikes like the Canyon. Hopefully a balancing of supply and demand in the near future will see a return to more sensible pricing and availability. A lot of things on the new Synapse appear a bit ugly e.g. the seat clamp…there are plenty of elegant external clamp solutions out there. I dislike all “add ons” to my bike and only use them if absolutely necessary as I feel they spoil the purity of appearance but I am a bit of a design snob and I’m sure lots of people love these stick on gadgets…

I have the 2022 Canyon Endurace CF 7 eTap, cannot beat it for value 😊

Owner of an older Canyon Endurace CF SL disc, cannot say enough good things about it. Only detractor is that the front end was quite harsh from the factory (perhaps owing to that oversized steerer), but swapping the aluminum bar/stem for Canyon's one-piece "ergo" carbon cockpit improved comfort considerably. For what it's worth, the older disc Endurace would clear 35's with a little bit of room, so unsure if the new stated clearance is an actual change or if Canyon is just stating the tire clearance more realistically.

Does any one have experience with the canyons, as it relates to the risk of seat post slipping? They’re only one screw with a 5nm or so…doesn’t look very solid esp if you’re 80kg range rider. Thanks in advance. Great job David, I enjoy the content.

I'm 5'5 what size should I get?

why would one adjust the seatpost on a regular basis? Outside of rental bikes, it's get a bike fit set it once and forget.

Personally given I do a lot of my own work I like the external cables, the standard 27.2 seat post and external clamp and also a proper bottom bracket. The rest I don’t care about and I’d find a way to remove it.

That Evo is pure 🔥🔥🔥

Well done Canyon for their pricing and spec. If they can do it then other manufacturers can 👍

Love the design changes with the new Endurace 😒, can't argue with the value though.

I like your videos but there are a couple of inaccuracies in relation to the new canyon bikes. Rim brake options are available (I just ordered and Endurace 7 RB). Bottom bracket is BSA threaded and not PF86.

Endurace cf 7.0 allroad is litterally the bike i’ve been searching for

BB30 need to go away, I prefer and like threaded better, so much easier and cheaper to work on yourself. The Cannondale is off my radar now, I hate all the integrated stuff. I want to choose my own lights, radar systems etc and how do you not plan on riders using a saddlebag? Major oversight. I’m very intrigued by Canyon bikes, hopefully the new Canyon is a nice endurance bike and I’m curious to learn more. I love endurance bikes.

Kinda dissaointed that there is no news about alloy synapse. They need to update Topstone (both carbon and alloy) to threaded bb asap. IMO

The move to press fit was to provide a stiffer platform for the axles (and weight)? Is the move back to external because carbon layups are now sufficiently advanced that companies can produce a really stiff BB area that rivals a press fit?

The cynic in me sees that Cannonale are maximising profit on the Synapse Firstly move to a bsa bb means no complicated cannondale bb30 chainring and cranks to make in house that will be increasingly more costly to manufacture due to new ramping patterns etc needed for new groupsets rather than taking manufacturers oem cranks In addition easier to manufacture the frame and reduce cost for bsa bb as opposed to pressfit Secondly 27.2mm seatpost ,easier to source and manufacture than previous seat-post of 25.4mm along with simpler seat clamp design Thirdly charge a higher price for technology that they have secured at a lower market price and force it on to buyers increasing profit margin Regards tyre clearance I suppose it’s designed primarily for the American market where the gravel surfaces are more hard pack than other places in the world where the surfaces may be a bit more gnarly like the Uk where wider tyres would be needed. Lastly do we think the frame is 7% more compliant through dropped stays or through wider standard tyres, surely the 27.2mm seatpost doesn’t do the compliance any favours compared to 25.4mm so was compliance as important as profit?

The biggest issue I hear people talk about is battery life, which is just ignorance. Those lights don't last more than 2hrs on full beam when sold separately, that battery is bigger giving longer life. People are quoting a lower lumen runtime and comparing it which is unfair. As for the mounting of seat packs... There is a frame bag, front bag and bento box.. But even if you do need a saddle bag it might be possible, we need to see how that light connects. Front light also, how does it connect? Can we swap out the cables to use any light? Personally I love the direction cannondale is taking things, but in future they might want to keep the battery and have internal routing for usb cables coming from it. Then a wealth of aftermarket lights and gps etc can be run off it.

What? The Endurace CF 8 with full carbon and Ultegra at € 2299,- ? I am in. :))

I liked it but I’ll wait for that mid term facelift. When they remove the battery and sell it without the lights. Oh and reduce the price by a third! How expensive is that bike.

Keep your 1x for gravel. Back to threaded, yay, next back to tubes for road.....

Canyon will never do that 'lights integration', coz one of the main priorities of the brand is weight! New Synapse on Ultegra is 9,5 kg! Canyon produces its light system, which is way more compact and looks neat.

Overall nice BUT...the battery size is nuts and unnecessary. The Garmin Varia as it stands has similar battery life w/out this ginormous battery pack. As a multi bike owner having multiple redundant lights is also a pain. Just more $ being shelled out.

Endurance with 35mm clearance is borderline gravel bike. The current Endurace can fit 35mm so maybe 38mm in the future

Love the old school features, I can at least work on the bike again instead of taking it in the bike for every little thing!

Pressfit back to threaded is better because companies couldn’t do pressfit properly

I don’t get the point of an endurance bike - especially in a lineup like cannondale. They have the System6 pure aero monster, but they have the super6 as a comfortable race bike. Is there really a need for a slightly more comfortable bike? Some with the Giant Defy.

cannondale is a dream to buy and a nightmare to own.. I love my 2018 scalpel but almost every part of it is not compatible with normal bike parts... its really frustrating when you want to keep the bike long term.

I'm not a fan of top tube bags. I thouch them with my knees.

Dropping bb30 is the best thing Cannondale have ever done! Press fit is good if the manufacturers put the time and effort needed into it. Obviously, many companies including Cannondale don’t have the ability to manufacture a frame with a circular hole and to the correct specs! One piece BBs like that from Hambini are head and shoulders better than anything on the market. Cannondale have done a lot right in my eyes with this, except making people buy a bike with this integrated system of lights and radar with that terrible battery on the frame which will be obsolete in a few years.

Not sure if BB30 is dead. Race-specific bikes might still keep it. However, the Synapse usually the trend setter for Cannondale road bikes. We'll see once the CAAD13 and current SS Evo replacements arrive. I wouldn't be surprised though. Cannondale seems to have lost their way in my opinion. The current level of quality isn't what they were even 5 years ago Maybe changes like the threaded BB and going back to 27.2 seatpost. As for exposed cables handlebars is smart. Seems that even with electronics added to bikes, Cannondale and Giant understand not fiddling with integrated handlebars.

I am looking forward to seeing an honest comparison with the Giant Defy!😃

This new alloy Endurace is really interesting! Wider tyre clearance, higher stack, alloy looking like carbon, this is a cool bike!

Press fit bottom brackets should have become extinct at the beginning. With T47, frame builders have a large bottom bracket shells to make their frames stiff. Press fit bottom brackets are a deal killer for me! My current bottom bracket is a T47 from Chris King which is a beautiful system.

As someone who has been actively shopping for a Synapse , and long time cyclist, I’ll be skipping the 2022 model until they offer an Ultegra Di2 model with the lights/radar.

So many bike choices and genres. I'll stick to my 1 road and 1 cyclocross bike.

Is that a lobster on your hoodie?

The integrated lights are a dealbreaker for me. I already invested in my own system and don't need something forced on me. I feel like this is like the government/auto manufactures forcing expensive safety components as a requirement. As a CAAD10 owner, the BB30 is a creaky PITA.

Is there anyone who need this built in light system with external battery? The battery gets dusty and dirty after a few rides. I think garmin already has a radar based light system whoever need this. For the money I rather prefer a better groupset or a less expensive model without this light system.

I think BB30 was dead long ago. It's too narrow - 68mm. The problem with going to BSA is the issue of 30mm axles. Fitting them into the space is a serious problem. I note that Cannondale have stopped supplying their spider with that bike as a consequence.

I don't think the new endurace is racey by any stretch. The stack and reach are almost exactly the same as the trek domane, it even comes with 20mm extra headset spacers so as far as I can tell it's the most relaxed (least racey) endurance bike on the market. Sure, the CF SL is still on the racey end

Cannondale only changed the crappy BB and 3rd party chainset on the premium bikes. Same crappy BB on the AL and cheaper versions.

PF BB are the best !

Im not sure how useful radar is, going to turn my head anyway to check for cars before pulling out......

I do hope pressfit bottom brackets go extinct, because it’s a phaf to do maintenance or any upgrades but mostly the creaking from these type of bottom brackets… I’m happy with what Cannondale dit with their bike, it’s after all an endurance bike. Not a all out race bike.

i think people are forgetting the Synapse is an Endurance bike, not an aero or lightweight hill climber

That synapse tech will age really badly

T47 is where it's at

how can Canyon launch new bikes?? the 2021 bikes have been out of stock for at least 6 months now. Wanted to buy one, but there's still no outlook as to when they're available, could be months. so instead bought a different one. Also a hefty price hike of 200,- on the exact same model

i am light years prefer the pressfit bearing, but the manufactures insist in press the bearings in shit adapters instead pressing direct on the frame like every mechanical shit in the world. all my bikes i converted to pressfit bearing on frame, and is very hard to understand why lots bb exists.

Why didn’t Canyon use the opportunity to add fender mounts??? Would make this the ultimate (pun intended) commuter bike.

threaded bb is a win for everyone. removable battery is a win for me. not having it inside the frame makes life easier for everyone.

The brands return to threaded bb's due to his inability to do a rounded hole within a certain specifications. And all of this when they charge more than 3000€ for a frameset. What a shame.

The Endurace can already fit 35s. Curious how much its now.

Canyon has a real opportunity to steal market share and build brand loyalty in new customers with their new ENDURACE. While other companies are adding crap and bumping up prices, CANYON is simplifying and keeping prices at expectation level. (New bike buyers CANNOT understand a $5k bike!)

>New Canyon Endurace >11:17 All bikes are Disc brakes only incoming rim brake purist in 3.. 2..

Press fit stem clamp bolts anyone? LOL

All these new launches are just such a tease. You can't even buy them :)