Yu-Gi-Oh Players Rate BEST & WORST Magic the Gathering Cards! ft  

Huge shout-out to you guys doing this crossover! Can't wait to watch this after work.

make videos on how to get into commander/mtg from a yugioh players perspective, please:)

Damn, would love to watch you guys play commander Its such a fun format with lots of innovation, fun hijinx and mostly just an amazing way of having a fun match with your friends

@@YuriBo26 for there style I would say standard so they can have more than 1 card. And it's a good beginner start

I think you should take the suggestion of other people in these comments and have him react to some classic Yu-Gi-Oh cards, and maybe play a game of yugioh with structure decks

Ya but if your opponent has the perfect hand at turn 1 or you go 2nd. Do not expect to last past turn 3 or you concede because they pulls a combo you have no way to win and they are just playing with you and giving a response to every thing you do. Why I hate Arena for time to time there are not different weight classes. Unless you change format.

@@loganshaw4527 that's why I love my forces

It does depend on the format, as there are turn 0 kills in vintage, and turn 2 combos are common. But all other formats will be slower.

@@c0rr4nh0rn What's crazy is that there are multiple ways to win on your opponent's first turn while you go second in Vintage, but often games of Vintage can be slower than Standard or even Limited because of how much removal/hate/disruption exists. Like you go Black Lotus -> Channel -> Emrakul, the Aeons Torn but your opponent (for some bizarre reason) has Simian Spirit Guide -> Elvish Spirit Guide -> Manamorphose -> Stifle. Then, on their turn, they play Karakas and bounce your spaghetti monster. Now, nothing happens for like 5 turns because each of you has only 3 cards in their hand looololololol

Vintage & Yu-Gi-Oh are both crazy! I used to play Modern Magic, and the fastest I ever beat someone was turn 3 with Emrakul, the Aeons Torn. Turn 1= forest & Treespeaker. Turn 2= forest & level up Treespeaker, tap for 2 mana & play Lightning Greaves. Turn 3= forest & tap Treespeaker & 2 forests to play Elvish Whisperer, then equip Lightning Greaves to Whisperer, tap 3rd forest & whisperer to play Emrakul, who will be equipped with Lightning Greaves for haste & shroud to undeniably obliterate anything they had brought out or set up (unless they went 1st & just Happened to have an Ensnaring Bridge out) & force them to forfeit or you actually win turn 4. With basically only lightning bolt at the right timing, or ensnaring bridge standing in your way! Or there's turn 1= Elvish Mystic, turn 2= Lightning Greaves, turn 3= Champion of Rhonas for basically the same results! And I had Omnath, Locus of Mana as a fun backup & way to actually cast the Eldrazis for their extra OP casting effect! I was very proud & thought myself a genius! :) However, Magic has changed a lot... I no longer like Modern Magic because (while that deck might still be good or Great on a good day) there's too much to keep up with. The sets now (which they didn't used to do) introduce SO many new abilities & gaming mechanics every set now! Which come out every few months. It's frustratingly confusing these days... It's becoming Yu-Gi-Oh, in the sense that they're overcomplicating the game to the point of ruining it.... And I hate that!

another is soul charge. you pay 1k LP in increments to special from your grave per special. you full combo and then get all the cards back lol

TierZoo plays yugioh???

@@yyem1840 lmao

Some cards like Zeus, Halq, grass and sixth sense could be possible

@@stuckincollege1778 dragoon?

Kuribo is basically the best card in yugioh. It can delete most anything

But yes

In any cardgame take an extra turn is busted.

I mean effects that allow you to untap your permanents are crazy good... Taking an extra turn is a better version of that... Now combine those 2 and your opponent might as well scoop... In every game... If you make action economy work in your favor... You'd win most of the time...

I didn't know it was power 9 but it would be busted in about any board game or card game I know. No games are really balanced around uneven turns

Ok but Show them Nexus of Fate

@@codyvaughn7966 i looked it up and jesus that just scary xD all you need is 1 copy and that it (i know you can fit 4 but i rather have let my opponent play for 25% of the time playing.)

I haven't played magic in over a decade, what the hell is commander??

@@Tekape Commander is a 4 + player game are you have 100 cards Singleton (meaning that with the exception of certain cards every single car has to be unique excluding basic lands) and you pick a card that is a legendary creature to be your commander. within that creature's color identity you can to only use cards that share mana symbols from your commander.

@@Tekape its horrible format ruining mtg is what commander is

@@Tekape New name for EDH

@@jii-ro7083 ??? You can use any card, you can play with more of your friends, you don’t have to spend hundreds of dollars every time there’s a rotation just to be able to play not to mention you only need one copy of a card and you can make the most creative decks imaginable. Commander is an amazing format. Obviously you don’t have to play it if you don’t want but there’s a lot of damn good reasons for it’s popularity.

Kuribo, one of the weakest monster cards in the game, yes it can kill in 1 turn in MTG with 300 atk.

that kuriboh also destroys every creature in the game.

@@vanityofthesaint deathtouch would like to have a word with you

@@marcusramirez8197 I was under the influence and forgot deathtouch was a thing my apologies and thanks for the correction.

but when you factor in the lack of toughness you've got to do some shenanigans to get it to stay on the field

I have to explain to my friend why the moxes and Black Lotus are busted. In a scenario where those are not restricted, you basically can run a deck with no land, just 4 of every moxes and 4 Black Lotus and you can cast as many as you like since they cost 0 mana. In a perfect hand, you can cast 8 drop in turn 1 or doing some insane stuff with it.

@@muhammadrafi4723 The easest way to teach him is to just make him play with/against them. That's what it took for me to get it.

Another interesting thing to note is that all three cards that aren't colorless are Blue, blue being arguably the most powerful color in Vintage.

Can someone explain why Timetwister is in the Power 9? It doesn’t seem that powerful to me

​@@muhammadrafi4723 technically you could turn 1 hard cast emrakul the aeons torn (a 15 drop): 4 lotuses, which is 12 mana with 3 cards left. Add in a single mox and either eye of ugin, eldrazi temple, or even ancient tomb as land for turn.

The part with making new formats: I always found it strange people didn't do this more often. Me and my club of friends played all sorts of formats, each with their own limitations and exceptions. Different life point starts, hand sizes were the basics, then getting into only lvl 4 or lower (like you stated) and no negates. Even experimenting with tag team and 3+ player duels, with which we created our own standard of possession and word ruling. I personally loved the games we had with 3person teams, they were absolutely bonkers, especially when you realize we made decks entirely structured for 3 players on a team and an extra deck the size of the Sahara desert 🤣. Like you said, the game is our oyster!

when i was drifting between the two, i usually gave a conversion of 500:1 on creatures. now, since i've made a few custom cards that are ports of cards i specifically liked, and in some cases, i've ignored that rule of thumb (yubel being the prime example). but i've found that generally, a 500:1 should get you fairly close in terms of card feel. blue-eyes being a 6/5 feels a touch weak, maybe, but the conversion also starts struggling past 3k, since the gap between a 3000 and a 3200 is so dramatic in yugioh. the big thing yugioh has is it's overwhelming speed.

I had an idea for a game mode where basically you have your normal deck, but also a mana deck. Mana cards can't go in the normal deck, and non lands can't go in the mana deck. Every turn you draw from both. I'd love to play test the idea with a friend, and see what would need to be tweaked to make it work. Draw cards would probably only be able to draw from the main deck, except for cards specifically searching for lands.

@@kairotox not to be rude, but I don't think that's a good idea.

@@wen1188 bro you have to say why

Stylistically, yes, but his attitude would definitely be closer to Yugi's grandpa.

@@vxicepickxv True! I meant mostly from his aesthetic and performance lol

Richard Garfield? 😆

no, Richard Garfield is

@@vxicepickxv Compromise- he's both- Grandpa Pegasus

I think what they were trying to convey. Is there's 3 words, but it's a placeholder for paragraphs of rules. And it's mind blowing that it tells you all that at a glance lol

What does it do?

@@johnnychannel-el1gg It has Flying: A creature with flying can’t be blocked except by creatures with flying and/or reach. A creature with flying can block a creature with or without flying. Haste: If a creature has haste, it can attack even if it hasn’t been controlled by its controller continuously since their most recent turn began. If a creature has haste, its controller can activate its activated abilities whose cost includes the tap symbol or the untap symbol even if that creature hasn’t been controlled by that player continuously since their most recent turn began. And Lifelink: Damage dealt by a source with lifelink causes that source’s controller, or its owner if it has no controller, to gain that much life (in addition to any other results that damage causes). But with MTG(Magic) Every creature with that ability functions the exact same way, so they can just put one word since we all know it does. These words are explained in all beginner materials too, so new players can learn with the booklet till they understand it :3

no one knows what that card does

@@nikkolasaustin5754 um soory i mean the yugioh meme the pot of greed lol, thanks for the explanation MTG card though

When he showed it I was like "Oh man hope he warned them to be real careful with the card.. and why the heck is it in such an horrible sleevve!?!?!" -_-; But then Ctrl-P so oh ok

to me it's funny because it shows magic just started as a fun game like what can we think of oh "an extra turn" but nowadays that's like 9999% more broken than back then when most of it consisted of attack creatures basically

​@@TekapeSpells were 1000x more broken, creatures were 1000x worse so it evened out.

You can see the yugioh cards on the boys mat. So I reckon that they will be used for that exact reason! (:

Hopefully it's coming

He would have to read them first :D

The Professor pisses his pants whenever a Magic card has more than three words on it. Yugioh would kill him.

That'd be great ^^

Plus blue has a LOT of cards that can untap which makes it repeatable, put a card such as ohpidian eye on him that lets you draw a card if he does damage, and mind over matter to discard a card and untap, you can just repeat it until everyone at the table is dead

Understanding the general themes of each color would help a lot in these reaction video formats

@@mememaster9703 the fact in magic you can do infinite loops with 3 cards is scary as hell. Most loops in Yugioh take almost your entire deck and milling them to the grave or summoning monsters with very specific effects to search specific cards. For instance power tool dragon is used in so many loops just to search a card that isn't even used in the loop.

Then again, Wizard decks are generally in Izzet colors. (blue/red for the non MTG people)

@@christiankirby8092 No it's not, because you can interact with most combos at some point. You can counter the spell that starts it. If it's permanent based, you can kill either of the combo triggering pieces. Let's take for example the card at hand "Prodigal Sorcerer": You need something that untaps a permanent, some way to produce infinite mana and Prodigal Sorcerer. You can counter/kill whatever produces the infinite mana loop, your best shot at surviving at that point. You can kill off either part of the combo pre infinite mana loop. You can discard their combo pieces (in black). Most of it is just the knowledge of how the combo works. Same with YGOs combos, in which you need to learn what trigger you need to react with a hand-trap to make them brick or kill of the extender.

What always is great is just showing Pokemon trainers to people who only play Magic or Yugioh, where every card draw matters a lot.

As a mainly Ygo player who's gotten into magic. It's not that suprising. It's realy just a much simpler version of YuGiOh with half the mechanics removed and replaced with a mana system. Much more straightforward and easier to understand.

@@speedyboost_ So true. I remember the DuelLogs doing this with Pokemon Cards and being blown away when his chat told him Hau, which simply let's you draw three cards is awful

Yeah like I think it was almost unfair with True-Name Nemesis 'cause that card is obviously so different from group games versus 1v1. It's also funny to see just how much perspective on MtG has shifted 'cause the APS guys seem to view group games as the "usual" way to play. I guess it really has shifted that hard now.

Drawing more cards is such an effect. I know nothing of YGO(Aside from the old anime lmao) but if someone showed me a YGO card that says "Draw 3 cards" I'd call it good, because that's almost always good.

The funny part is "piercing" is already a shorthand for: "When attacks a monster in defense position, if its ATK is higher than the DEF of the defending Monster, the difference is dealt to the defending Monster's controller as Battle damage." For reference: the same effect in Magic is just called "Trample"

To be fair older YGO did have very simple effects and conditions. Now it's like you're reading a contract and figuring out when and under what conditions a card can be played. If you were to simplify down the text of modern cards would be like (very rough idea): Condition, SS (Special Summon): Target (specify what gets SSed) Negate M, S, or T: (Condition and/or cost) Trigger Effect 1 (per turn): (condition and effect) Trigger Effect (continuous or soft once per turn): (Cost and effect) I know it's not great, but hope it gets the idea across.

Yeah, keywords are something that are great to see standardized in magic. It's good to just see "vigilance" on a card rather than a two line explanation on every card with that.

There is banish in Yu-Gi-Oh and it works just like exile in MTG. They use keywords it just isn't enough lol.

I don't even want to think about how long "flying" would have to be in Yu-Gi-Oh style, since its definition is recursive.

Shuffle Up and Learn

@@skyguy713 yas.

Shuffle up and Play Magic, Yu Gi Oh, Pokemon and, let's not forget, Flesh and Blood!

THAT WOULD BE SICK

@@skyguy713 omg yes!!

Totally agree with the last part. That was also the reason i stopped playing Yugioh

Yes, that last part is why I can't get into Yugioh. I'm also not a fan of losing just because you're not playing the meta. I miss the old days when you could build whatever you wanted. Konami ruined the game. I just want a Dark Magician deck because I like the character. I don't care if it's meta or not.

I stopped Yugioh for the exact same reasoning. I don't want to play a game like that.

@@Tae_Grixis Yeah the power creep is insane, I played through Zoo and almost quit then, but then the game levelled out for a while. The current meta is flipping insane though, adventure k to tear into the insanity of splight, its just too much, its not longer fun when yiu can't play what you want

@@frostyblade8842 Power creep in YGO turned what could be modern into standard for them.

its worse than that, only lands staying means all artifact manabase goes back into the hand AND one thing that wasnt mentioned is that players have to discard down to 7 at the end of the turn ... meaning if someone kicks 20 permanents into your hand at the end of your turn you have to dump everything above 7 into the graveyard unless you have ONE specific land on board that removes the limiter ...

It is true name nemesis, though, a card that warped legacy, and that doesn't happen often

@@krekkaking at the time it didn't happen very often, but ever since Modern Horizens there's been a busted thing in nearly every other set, Culminating in the abomination that is Delverless Delver

@@VivBrodock yeah, kinda infuriated at that concept

Loved the wink to the camera 😉

@@krekkaking The one i remember the most is good ol Tarmogoyf in future sight. Everyone and their mom played either UG with a splash of a third color or some midrange BG deck with or without white.

Same for me being a former YGO and current Magic player. I love seeing the crossover. I also like that I understand what both sides are talking about

@@CerealKiller143 same as a former mtg player and current yugioh player.

@@thisgoddamusernamestoodamnlong Why would you do such a thing?

@@mateussilva635 Magic too slow. Yugioh cards hot.

@@thisgoddamusernamestoodamnlong I think waiting idly while my opponent combos just waiting for a crucial point where I can negate it, and hope he isn't able to counter negate me is slow as hell. But as long as you're having fun it's alright ;)

Good luck, have fun, and... try not to get overwhelmed by the current meta.

@@SyxxPunk Exactly. I was playing yugioh when i was younger and am still playing the eternal duelist soul on gameboy advance from time to time because this game is so good! However, i bought legacy of the duelist link and i’m overwhelm. i don’t like the direction it went so i just did the og yugioh and gx’s story

hell yeah! good luck with the current meta but i still find it fun :)

Check out Goat and Edison format

If you haven't seen it, Paul and the Professor did a longform video a while back, comparing and contrasting the two games. I think it's on the Professor's channel.

@@flamboyantwarlock7101 thanks I'll check it out!

@@daemonslayer59able it is one of the untitled magic podcasts episodes.

nah, ultimate offering could come off the banlist and see no play. you're right to not put it on this list

I'd include Monster Reborn in here, somehow but I agree with this list otherwise.

@@tsumgye5370 Fair enough, it is really slow compared to what it was before.

@@tsumgye5370 Floo basically does the same thing as Ultimate Offering and it has no costs associated with it. Fully agree that could be at 3 and completely irrelevant.

Confiscation, The Forceful Sentry, and maybe Trap Dustshoot definitely deserve a spot. Hand knowledge and removing a card of your choice has been and will always be way too strong.

Yeah baxk in the day you bought like 10 packs in a lifetime. Now these dorks buy 10 booster boxes a day. Even in 2005 you would get a pack a month if lucky

​@@nickxcaliber7991 There were definitely people back then who were spending lots of money on packs. I think you're remembering having the limited budget of a child, and thinking that's just how it was back then. That's how it was for me as a kid playing Yugioh.

@@WarpsmithAdam I definitely miss those days. Just making decks from whatever you happened to have, and playing against others who had the same.

@@xchronox0 It's what I still do in MTG. Still have super budget Commander decks, Pauper only uses Commons and if you only play kitchen table you can brew some really fun decks in Pauper. You just need people on the same page as you to do that.

You can taste PTSD in prof's face at 4:50 :D

Just the complete lack of a poker face when the guys were looking at True-Name.

I'd go with Pot of Greed, Graceful Charity, Delinquent Duo, Confiscation, Forceful Sentry, Cold Wave, Painful Choice, Vanity's Emptiness, and Sixth Sense. Cards that can never come off the F/L list, and anything with a similar effect would need to come with a heavy cost or ridiculous activation condition. Cards that are good in any deck against any deck.

red medicine?!?!

Funnily enough, none of those yugioh power 9 actually worth a dime except maybe raigeki. but that too only a couple of bucks at most as Yugioh doesnt have reserved list.

@@MrEcuadorian Pretty sure its Mooyan Curry

definitely pot of greed,change of heart, and monster reborn for sure.

Yeah commander is a weird format, 100 cards, no duplicates, double life total, vs 3+ opponents, great cards in commander don't always or even often translate to other formats and vice versa. I've won a 12 man commander game with combat damage from Rhys, the Redeemed, that sentence makes absolutely 0 sense but is nonetheless true. I've also *technically* not won a game because I simultaneously gave 40 ish poison counters to the table including myself. What I'm saying is commander is wild man.

Yeah, I'm like "that's crap" then he's like, "this is a staple." I'm instantly thinking that it might have seen fringe play in standard pillow fort or something. I do not evaluate for casual formats, and being a staple in casual does not make a card good.

@@gurusson rhystic study is going to be a staple in pretty much any multiplayer environment. It is absolutely a staple in cEDH. Smothering Tithe is probably a little bit more questionable as a full on staple these days but it is absolutely a very strong multiplayer effect

@@nateatwood2143 smothering tithe used to be great in some combo decks that used wheel of fortune type effects to keep making free mana and free cards at the same time

It's rather in character for the professor to do that. Moreover, that IS the most popular format in magic, apparently. So it's not unusual that a lot more commander cards were picked.

They haven't really made it clear in what format the cards are good at. That card is good specifically only in Commander

yeah tithe is bonkers good in commander we have lots of effects that allow players to draw lots cards at once it can propell you quickly. for instance we wheels are effects where each player discards their hand and draws typically 7 cards so in a normal commander pod thats 21 treasures

I wouldn’t worry - real Magic players didn’t correctly evaluate Smothering Tithe either. Those that did bought loads at 50p each the same time I did (I sold out at £30 😂)

@@snackplaylove they did lol. EVERYONE freaked out about it in EDH, nobody cared about it in actual formats :D Unlike oko, players were correct on this one

@@ich3730 Here the price was sub dollar all through release to the extent that I was mocked for taking one as a value draft (on the wheel - still won the pod). It spiked once people played with it, but as it was the last time I really made money on a card before paper got boring it sticks in the memory

no they do not. inYu-Gi-Oh!, archetypes are based on card names, like HERO, Shadoll, Utopia, all or most cards in their archetype have those in their name or deal with cards with that in their name.

To add on to what@@floofgoodra2017 was saying: The closest you can get to comparing archetypes in Yu-Gi-Oh to MTG would be Tribal decks.

The real question is: how much mana does it cost to tutor with the Prof?

@@0th_Law If you want to call it a personal tutor, just 1 blue

@@firespirit8026 catch him on a bad day and you may just get the demonic tutor 😈

the thing is, a lot of mechanics in TCGs are very similar and just named differently. ofc, YGO works alot more different than MTG, but for example as Paul said at one point "Drawing cards is good" is true for every game because card advantage is just sooo important, especially in MTG where a third to almost half of your deck consists out of lands that wont help you out of a dire situation. Playing top deck can be very deadly very fast.

@@MajorReaction maybe even a cruel or grim tutor. Depending on the price you’re willing to pay.

King of Games right here, Ladies and Gentlemen! XD

​@@lioncrafter7900 I wonder what kind of magic deck yugi would gravitate towards...

@@anonymous71207 Thinking black, blue, and white. Black for dark magician, blue for mental abilities of millenium puzzle and artifacts, and white for protagonist to balance out the black/blue combo.

@@anonymous71207 5 colors, and he would somehow always get exactly the mana he needs before it's too late. He'd have creatures that span all over, just like his Duel Monsters deck.

You should check out Rarran a hearthstone channel. He does a series where he looks at ygo cards. And many other games too. He also plays ygo master duel for his first time. Great channel.

I'm not convinced Sixth Sense is even correct given it was a decade late to the TCG

@@KoopaBlue I think Black Hole might be a viable replacement, on the one hand it's a worse raigeki, on the other it's still an unconditional board wipe.

PoG, Graceful, Change of Heart, Delinquent Duo, and Painful Choice certainly. Monster Reborn is really good, but isn’t universally busted. It’s been taken off the ban list. I’d have to say Soul Charge would be better for the list, since it’s always been insanely good. Raigeki and Harpy’s are in the same boat where they used to be busted but have been overtaken by power creep. I’d add Magical Scientist and Cyber Jar to the list, since both radically change the game out of nowhere. Last Will would also be a contender, since even if it was unbanned today, it’d see play.

HFD, Sixthsense, Raigeki, change of heart, Reborn, Duo aren't worthy of power 9. Half of those are legal without seeing play. Power 9 are "must run if you can" level. So stuff like confiscation, pot of greed, called by the grave, maxx c, soul charge, graceful charity...

not much of a YGO player, but what about Yatagarasu, Chaos Emperos Dragon, Solemn Judgement and Cyberstein?

Magic player myself, but the stated reason for not using shorthand like magic is they dont want players to need to memorize half a million words to play their game. They want a player who knows how card types work to be able to just read the card without cross referencing a bunch of keywords. Which is nice, but I prefer having the most common effects have one word telling you what it does. The only one in yugioh is piercing damage, aka trample. That being said I'm not a hard-core magic player so I often have to look up key words to know what my cards or my opponents cards do, so it swings both ways. But at least I don't need a microscope to play.

@@geraldposter1496 It's too difficult to parse and remember what all a Yugioh card does. And I was a multi year Yugioh player before I became a mtg player.

@@tonysmith9905 same, yugioh was my gateway drug into card games. Again, I prefer magics system. It's really easy to read "Indestructible, hexproof" and know what it does instead of reading "This card cannot be destroyed by battle or card effects. This card cannot be targeted by the effects of cards your opponent controls". Imagine if they had cascade or shroud like effects in their game.

@@geraldposter1496 What Magic is really good at is keywording terms that make intuitive sense. There's a few here and there that don't make much sense (regeneration and its shields for instance), but by and large the keywords are easy to grasp, especially evergreen and deciduous ones. So even if you don't play often it's still not too hard to understand the game. The other things that Magic does is have rarity and formats, which keep more complex cards from being too frequent for new players, barring commander. But even then beginner players with commander are likely to not have too many complex cards, and as a social format it's likely someone can help. With keywords being easy to understand it lessens a lot of the mental load a new player takes on. And I think the easy to read cards, both language-wise and font size-wise helps a lot.

@@haikumists1115 also there's nothing like missing timing in Magic. You can forget to activate triggers but in no circumstances does a trigger put on the stack just not activate when it didn't get interacted with unless there was some replacement effect going on, which is much more easily verifiable. The stack is the stack.

Mine was banned in TCG now, sad news.

@@RickNeverGiveYouUp Woah! No, good news, actually. Mine banned, could've happened earlier. Hm, seems like I got a bit out of the game lately. Just looked up the latest ban list. Dimensional fissure, Macrocosm and Metaverse - all allowed again. They were forbidden? When did that happen? Well, I guess, I don't have to change my Kashtira decklist at all. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Today is a good day.

@@RickNeverGiveYouUp why are you sad about mystic mine being banned? I dont even play the game irl (im a fan but i dont have people to duel with, so only online things for me) and ive never encountered it before. Even i know that it should be banned. Even made a concept where a card cant be activated unless the opponent controls mystoc mine, in which it can be activated anywhere and cant be responded to. It sends all of the cards in the mystic mine users deck, extra deck, hand, field and banish zone into the graveyard then banishes all of those cards facedown, and they take 1000 damage for each card banished in this way.

Change of Heart was banned for a long time don't know how it is now.

Next time, on shuffle up and play... lol

first they would have to learn the definition of commander. It isn't 4 player. Commander is a deck type that contains 100 distinct different cards, so no 2 cards are the same; and you have 1 legendary card that is deemed your commander. There are a bunch of other rules I won't get into. What they were referring to would either be round robin in a group team setting, or free for all in a single player setting. Or handicap if its multiple players versus one.

@@ivenstorm I mean, all you said is true, but also it is four-player, and is designed and has cards released with that in mind (like the goad mechanic, which for those that don't know is that creature attacks each turn if possible, and doesn't attack you if possible). The fact it is a four-player format was the important bit on whether the cards they were reviewing were good or not. One treasure every go around is very different than three, for example.

@@HappleProductions it can be four player. But Commander itself can also be 2 player with separate rules. Starting players get 30 health instead of 20. I only grew up knowing the 1v1 format myself. I learn every day.

@@ivenstorm I'm sure they know it can also be 1v1.

There's also a max-hand size in YGO. If you have more than six cards in your hand at the end of your turn, you discard cards until you are back at six. There are 5 cards that can change the amount of cards allowed on the hand.

@@MikaeruDaiTenshi I knew about hand size. Recovered YGO player here. Didn't know YGO had cards that ignored hand size though.

How has your experience been? Curious to get feedback from a player who is new, but not new to card games.

The problem is that they are not officially supported. Formats in magic get oficial support, tournaments, updated banlists, and sometimes cards specifically designed for them

edison and goat aren't talked about because they SUCK. just the same boring tactics in goat where it's just set a monster pass turn for 30+ fucking turns

@@EBlade3529 uuuuh

@@Griever49 I don't see that as a problem. I'd rather have fan-made games than konami-made games tbh commander in magic started out as a non-supported format too. and a lot of ppl don't like how it's become official and competitive b/c its meant to be casual

@@aliceinwonder8978 but it became popular because it was officially adopted and supported, before that it was a very niche thing

As a newish player (about a year into playing casually/kitchen table and commander 1v1 with a family member), I'm struggle so hard to see how certain commons, or even uncommons , or just certain cards that read as meh or alright can be seen as very very good by seasoned players. I completely understand that the keyword here is that seasoned means you understand the formats and which cards will be good in them. I feel like when building a vamp or life gain deck, I've seen this card (lots of copies in my bulk) and tend to ignore it. I never play sealed or drafted due to time limitations and family. I did a draft once for brothers war and while fun, it it is time I don't have. Just an observation I made.

@djuarez610 when you play limited format. (Draft or sealed) You only get to build a deck with the cards in your boosters. This means that commons/uncommons become the most important cards in the set. (Not the splashy and powerful mythics or rares, which dominate constructed). In a typical set, you have roughly ~100 common cards. You will see a random 10 of in every booster. So you get a random assortment of ~30 commons in draft, and ~60 in sealed. The best commons in the set, which will give the highest win rates, are those that have high impact on the games they are played. This is usually removal cards (destroy target creature, deal damage to target creature) or a cheap creature that has good stats for cost (3 mana 2/3 that deals 2 damage and heals you for 2) The vampire spawn isn't going to win you the game by itself. But, in a close matchup. Healing for 2 and getting 2 damage in, regardless of their board state, can turn the tide in your favor. (Especially if you have multiple copies in your sealed pool). The toughness of 3 was important due to the amount of 2 attack creatures in the set. (Lots of 2/1s and 2/2s for 2 mana) The health gain is important because the set was an aggressive format, and the extra damage on play can close out a game where you need just a tiny bit of help. So all around, this is a strong limited card because it's just solid utility for mana cost.

Thanks for sharing!

That’s not quite true. The Power Nine have never shifted but that’s because they are the rarest most expensive most powerful cards in the first printing that didn’t make it to Revised. They’ve been surpassed several times in terms of raw power. The channels namesake Tolarian Academy is one, Memory Jar is another.

@@totalvoid6234 While those are very strong cards, (most) of the Power Nine have something in common. They come out on the first few turns always. TA and MJ can as well, but getting them online and doing stuff that early isn’t guaranteed. 7/9 of the Power Nine do their thing on turn one 100% of the time if you have them in your opening hand. And the other two do theirs on 2 and 3 respectively. TA and MJ can certainly come online on turns 1, 2, or 3, but it’s not guaranteed. Again, those cards are extremely powerful. And they’d certainly be in the top 20. But the top 10? That’s much harder to make a case for.

I think that's because WoTC's design philosophy is quite different from Yu-Gi-Oh's, and Wizards took a lot of lessons learned from the early days of magic and realized just how insanely powerful the cards they printed were. With Yu-Gi-Oh they focused on the "cool" factor to keep drawing players in with ever more powerful cards. With MTG they decided to retire the old, overpowered cards and instead play with a new set of cards with reduced power level that allowed for longer games with more strategy and variety.

​@@totalvoid6234 There may be legacy legal cards that are more powerful than some of the power nine in some cases, in some combinations, However, the power nine are what sets the upper limit on how good a card of similar type can be. They have never printed new cards that allow you play the equivalent of an extra untapped land in a round for no immediate or previously sunk mana cost (the moxen), Get 3 extra mana for free in round 1, get a three card draw for 1 mana, get an extra turn for any price, or reset you and your opponents graveyard and hand for 3 mana. The problem with the power 9 is that they were too good in all cases they were used, not just for some unforeseen broken synergy.

I know I will get flag for it but it kinda became a power 9,5 with Oko lol.

Did you see his funny "I'm sorry" video? That last part was great.

the merfolk man could barely contain his abundant joy at the people complimenting his fishfolk friends

The wink was great.

It is. Buy a precon and have some fun.

I love commander and agree get a precon

Just don't pay mark-ups! Also check the Professor for reviews on them

Commander in my opinion is the best MTG format. What if I told you that deck masters were a real thing in Magic? They’re just called commanders. What if I told you the format was community driven with its own rules committee that’s run by the man who created the format that Wizards doesn’t tamper with? What if I also told you that this community driven format was so popular that it is the second most supported format in all of Magic the Gathering only playing second to standard? 99 cards revolving around one legendary creature in the greatest multiplayer format ever my friend!

@@OvenfreshDeth I like how it’s a multiplayer format with one of cards in the deck. Compared to YuGiOh you actually get to play the game beyond two turns. I am looking to get a 40k commander deck and upgrade it a bit then play at my local game store which has casual and competitive events every week for MTG.

I second that.

@@pelusoft I Third it, that series would be awesome

Raigeki isn't as powerful now as a lot of monsters have some sort of built in protection.

@@MrGhosta5 exactly what I mean. It was a powerhouse but the game moved past it. Meanwhile Pot of Greed is still completely broken after all these years

Pot of greed Monster reborn Graceful charity DD Imp order Chaos emp dragon and black luster soldier Yata And a TV show shout out that arrow card

@@cdyounger88 What's a living arrow card? The reason something like raigeki can be powercrept is because of things like floating effects. Pot of greed cannot be powercrept in yugioh because if something is better than it, it's getting banned. This is mostly because going +1 for free is inherently imbalanced in any game where you have cards usually unless you're constrained by other factors like in pokemon drawing 2 doesn't do anything to advance your board. In Yugioh though the only constraints are how many cards you have and what floodgates can stop you from the opponent. No limit on special summoning and cards costing zero for the most part means +1 is just broken. Same reason graceful charity is broken, though even if there was a resource system that you had to pay into and you couldn't use the graveyard as a resource every deck would run graceful charity because it's at worst a filter that goes card neutral.