@@ashikjaman1940 mean, fittingly, catastor WAS doing great, than it got killed, not by a worm like king who has non battle interaction, but by fucking mist Valley thunderlord
It's lore accurate since they also got their ass whooped by worm in the lore. Literally only after the 4 archetype unite together did they create the only good ally of justice card
Ally of justice really need a very good support by having a field spell that can change all opponent monster to light attributes. We have zombie world that changes all monster to zombie, if their have that field spell card the deck will become viable
I still don’t understand why that one Ally off Justice destroys itself if any Light monster is on the field. They’re supposed to counter Light monsters, right?
Its basically a "nest" destroyer, it destroy them before they can "deploy/adapt" when they landed It being destroyed when there's a light monster = an active Worm found and destroy them
@@judgegemini8900 konami really needs to stop doing clever lore references when it handicaps a cards and its not a meant to be a joke card like pot of generosity
@@JorgeLuiz487 I mean, DT is the first time Komoney tried to heavily implement lore with their card effect, so its kinda like an experimental phase during that time Its also why cards like Worm Call summon stuff in set position, its a rough phase when they try to introduce lore into card game
They still hate each other, also mist valley lord destroying catastor because he was salty about not getting involved in the making of cosmic gateway and get mind controlled by fabled raven is genuinely making things worse for flamvell, dragunity and x sabers who are genuinely want to stop the war.
@@r3zaful Wait Dragunity is in this? also funny enough when I saw them 4 all stands together I was like "Yup there's a snitch and it is definitely the mf with wings"
My favorite part of this was learning to use searcher to flip worms without activating their flip effects in the deck demonstration… then going into an actual duel and learning that worms have Yagan, which has a flip effect, but isn’t a flip monster and therefore activates off of searcher. Incredible.
I mean, the only reason he beat the Monarch deck was because he didn't try making any AOJ plays and instead just went oonga boonga caveman mode by summoning two monsters and plopping a united we stand onto them.
I think it was supposed to showcase the epic war between the 4 rival tribes who must work together to halt the invaders from space, and for that part, it did well. The archetype itself however, is fucking ass, holy shit this thing is worse than Elemental Sabers, and those mfs were already burying the bar of standard with them 6ft down in the ground.
@@swisschese1323at least elementsabers have summoning conditions and effects to suppliment the archtype, along with easily summonable boss monsters. AoJ on the other hand...the one main deck boss they have cant be special summoned at all.
The only reason this wasnt complete hell for me was because the ai had the worst hands possible and somehow I cleared all this first try. Was still an absolute nightmare to play
I assumed they gave the AI a terrible deck cos I managed to pull out some exciting wins with my terrible cards, and in hindsight I was fighting for my life against an opponent who couldn't have bricked harder.
The Ally of Justice Solo Mode does a great job showing how powerful Worms are. And...Monarchs too i guess? I see we stopped giving a shit about lore at the very end
The bonus gates rarely have anything to do with lore and are just like "What is the best thing we can pair with the archetype for the opponent, and the worst thing we can pair with the archetype for you?"
@@ToxicAtomI felt that when dealing with the Weather Painter Solo Gate. When I had to go up against the True Draco Weather Painter deck with Nemesis Weather Painter. Although oddly enough I thought the Dream Mirror Despia Loaner for the solo mode was pretty neat.
I really like catastor summon animation at least it looks amazing how it moves exactly as you expect and clearly on his way to kill any light on his path
I just turned everyone into a Light monster which allowed me to keep board control until I made that Lv 7 good sounding Synchro and eventually made Speedroid guy and burned for exact game.
it was so funny watching MBT struggle so hard with the first duel on stream, and then when I tried it I just happened to open a hand that made Catastor on turn 1 and I steamrolled the AI on my first try. Truly is the solo mode gate of all time.
Funny thing, I managed to consistantly making decisive armor on turn 3 so I tried to handrip opponent. I tried. It didn't work. And now my decisive armor is just 3300 atk beatstick
Still waiting for the mayakashi solo mode. We got a shiranui one so now the mayakashi one could be the other side of the story or be the story of daki becoming friends with the shiranui girl and then it not going well when yuki-onna finds out. There is so much more lore with the 2 archetypes that the shiranui mode just doesn't cover
Naw that'd be to much fun, getting 5 monsters on board in one turn with a reborn on each is to much fun for konami to handle. Tbh they'd probably put up against gravekeepers with necrovalley just to dull it down a bit.
there are solo modes i struggled a lot more with, but this one was still down there. if you look at the loaner deck profile you can see what "strategies" they were thinking of, but they all required too many of just the right cards, and the opponents decks were seemingly built simpler which let it go off more easily if you didnt kill it quickly.
Yeah, I didn't have too hard a time, but in hindsight I just drew a good enough hand and just flailed my way towards a win. And honestly, I didn't hate it. I actually find it a little more irritating when you're supposed to have a good archetype and the deck is an atrocious mess. With this one I had zero expectations.
This apparently was in the game's code since launch but wasn't released until now for reasons we might have just experienced. Duel Terminal was bound to get added eventually. It would be weird if they didnt given how hard Konami pushed DT back in 2008 in japan. The bigger question is why did they focus on AOJ and not the actual 4 tribes? Are we getting a revamp of AOJ? Because it desperately needs it.
If AOJ did get new support to make it more competitive, they would probably need to just ditch the central playstyle of the deck and just make it swarm the field with synchros, like with the Black-Winged Dragon support and Superheavy Samurai support. A retrain of Catastor and Decisive Armor would be good. Like, if you can make it so that the deck can bring out Catastor, and Catastor retrain, Decisive Armor, a retrain of an old synchro with a negate effect, and a Baronne, that'd be pretty cool.
idk... I would have it on the side of the worms. playing the villain sounds fun, and you don't have to explain 4 different decks to the player over the course of the plot
The best part was when i used ally of justice searcher on worm yagan and then i noticed it wont stop any flip effect unless that monster is specifically a flip effect monster
I won't lie, I thought the AoJ solo gate was actually kinda fun. When a bunch of these solo gates feel like a die roll of whether or not you win cause the deck you're playing against is just is a good deck running a better engine, it was just funny playing an unplayable deck and doing something stupid with an AI who equally has no idea what to do.
Yeah, whenever they release a solo mode with a good archetype, half the duels are like 'We've mashed together this fun deck with, I dunno, flamvell or something. Good luck, idiot!'. This time it was fun when I drew a single good card.
@@RedWurm One of the most egregious examples is the Rikka gate where one of the duels gives you Sunavalon, and you gotta fight Rose Dragons. Y'know, the deck that tributes your monsters along with field nukes versus Sun-fucking-avalon.
It’s actually really funny that even an archetype as irredeemably bad as Ally of Justice has catastor, a card that was an extra deck staple for a good long while even after the synchro era.
Dont forget Ally of Justice Decisive Armor ran as a tech option to counter the very prominent Lightsworn at the time. You could just FTK with it sometimes.
they designed it that way. same for ice barriers, same for laval. they had a few ed monsters that were supposed to sell, and then the rest of the archetype existed... to fill space?
This is one of the few archetypes(series whatever) where I don't know how you fix it without throwing away literally everything and start from the beginning. It's rare I truly feel that way.
Dev. 1: "Hey, what do you guys think about making a solo mode about the Duel Terminal like Ally of Justice?" Dev. 2: "Sounds good, just gotta make sure the duels are just as interesting as the story." Dev. 1: *sweating profusely* "Oh, for sure."
I might've been the only one to experience this, but the Monarch duel was so hard for me while using the loaner deck. The AI just kept getting the best hands they could with the deck. Too many Pantheisms and too many cards to support tributing. AoJ was pure distilled pain to play. I also love how AoJ is supposed to counter light attribute monsters according to the LOOOOOORRRRRREEEE, and can't even do that consistently. Worst solo mode bar none.
Honestly, this is one of my favorite decks aesthetically. There was no reason for them to make it so worthless. This should be a top priority deck for a retrain imo.
Don't mind the Duel Terminal Lore added in. Great for people who don't know about Duel Terminal to catch up, but this game has SO MANY money makers that are just waiting for whole stories to be told, yet Konami sits on them. I'm definitely bias, but with how popular and successful HERO is, they would create whole backstories for each group of heroes. Maybe go into a story as to why Neos joined the Elemental Heroes given his flavor text.
Ally Of justice is a deck whose entire thing is that they are "good" at dealing with Light attribute monsters. The last 2 challenges of this solo mode have you using AoJ -THE FUCKING ARCHETYPE THAT DOES NOTHING AGAINST ANY OTHER ARCHETYPE BTW, to fight an earth machine mix and a monarch mix, with no Light attribute monster used in both of those deck.
Well at least this means we get one step closer to the dragon showdown between the Dragunities and the Ice Barriers. I wanna know what happened to the Dragunities after they sealed the Ice Barriers dragons by beating them with a steel chair.
I know what happened. The dragons ended up being unsealed by the Six Samurai, Infernity and Crystal Beast archetypes years later to use them as weapons of mass degeneracy.
It reminds me of the World Legacy gates, where one time they gave you a deck that relied on card effects to destroy monsters on the field, and the strongest monster on the deck was 2000 atk Auram. Then put you against a deck with World Legacy Shield, who cant be destroyed by card effects, had 3000 def and special summons itself from the graveyard. Fun times.
It's so bad that Konami had to create a solo mode to bring attention to this archetype in the hopes that a literal child might use their parent's credit card to buy packs from it.
The story is fine and all(well it's actually kinda bland but I've heard worse), but it's EXTREMELY silly that the prize cards for this are just some high level Normal Monsters. I don't think even this archetype gives you a good reason to run the things.
Its interesting because shreds of this solo mode sat in the code basically since the game came out, i assume its only here to setup other duel terminal stuff so we can speedrun to when DT gets good in DT2
This solo mode is fucked up. If you play like a toddler with no concept of conserving materials, just throwing monster on board, the AI chokes, setting monsters they aren't supposed to. Play proper, and the AI went demonic.
Woah. It was rereleased. Awesome, I can't wait to play this solo mode tho, the utter pain will be something else. Legit the worst deck there is on solo mode I think.
No contest. Ally of Justice is on the bottom 5 archetypes of all time, probably even bottom 3. The only decks unquestionably worse than it are Arcana Force and Guardians.
@@waskithonugroho3955 The lore is that the AoJ are basically made *out* of the Genex, which just means that, Catastor aside, they're straight-up a downgrade compared to just running Genex.
And I thought I struggled in that first loaner duel with 1 loss and a very drawn-out 2nd game. Watching MBT made feel a little bit better, but just a little.
I love how ally of justice is so God damn terrible that the tutorial for the deck required jet synchron. Clearly jet synchron is the best ally of justice card XD
This one was honestly so fucking funny, like, honestly I respect when they just give you the actual worst solo mode deck known to man and say good luck soldier. If they wanted to make the deck look like garbage they did a GREAT job
Ally of Justice's best monster's best (only) effect is a weaker version of Shaddoll Construct's worst effect, as people use her to retrieve Shaddoll Spell/Traps, and would rather deal damage than destroy whatever she battles.
Someone at Konami - well, we’ve got all this Duel Terminal Lore, we might as well put it in somewhere. Too bad that, with hindsight, we can all agree that Duel Terminal is an incoherent mess, otherwise like to see them get the World Legacy Solo Mode treatment.
So, if I understood that lore right, this deck CANONICALLY is a mish mash of cards that weren't meant to work together, is so bad it can't even beat the thing it was made to counter, and Catastor is the one good thing about it. Is that right?
Dude, that three star duel (the duel that rewards you with "Ally of Justice Clausolas") with the loaner deck is IMPOSSIBLE. I retried that duel more than 10 time. BS.
Ally of Justice is indeed an archetype thanks to Unlimiter, Thunder Armor, and the famous "Flamvell Magician". Your argument is invalid, also what you think its an archetype is not an actual archetype. Example: Shinobird.
Wait a minute, that’s the actual lore? All of them were garbage with only one being decent? Wow KONAMI, it’s okay to plainly say you never want to look at these cards ever again.
I replayed the one solo mission multiple times just to summon SKY-FIRE I legitimately couldn't care less about ally of justice but I did want to make a summon reactor deck
I love how they skip right to Ally of Justice. No duels with the 4 tribes. Iirc when GoldenNova did the lore for this chunk of the story, he spun it that everything revolved around Catastor until Decicive Armor was made. Even then, the latter got destroyed, and I think Nova had the following technologies decend from Catastor.
Created to destroy worms… and you lost only a few times to a worm deck. Man. Konami. They really know how to make fun and engaging solo modes and premade decks.
