Even people who regularly play MTG in current year don't seem to fully appreciate how bonkers MTG has gotten. The fact that Discover is a thing that exists and MTG players don't seem to mind is baffling to me. They literally designed an entire set around what would be the equivalent to a deck in Yugioh where every card in your deck is a 1-card FTK.
@justalyx7952 MTG is completely fucked and has been since 2020. The full explanation is a bit lengthy but the TL:DR is they've adopted the Komoney philosophy of "break the game on purpose to sell product" but they are infinitely less smart about it and it's killing the game. The only Magic product anyone buys anymore are Universes Beyond which are essentially turning other IPs into Magic Cards. And they have no regard for if it fits the world of Magic. It's gotten to the point where you can't tell what's real and what's a shitpost.
I would love an all blue episode with Joseph. I would frankly love any episode where he comes back. As someone who has dipped back and forth between Magic and Yugioh for much of her life (with some breaks from both for life reasons), I love hearing Joseph talk about Magic. I find the differences endlessly interesting, and I feel like only speak to them quite as compellingly as he.
I got a banger idea Show MBT a bunch of companions so he can flex his knowledge about Extra Deck monsters and how changes in execution can lead to wildly different results in regards to how well those two mechanics were received
@@TheOneJameYT I think it’s super interesting how differently Konami and WOTC handled their “monster that’s outside the game” mechanics. The most controversial extra deck monster was Link monsters, mainly due to MR4 (and the 97 FTKs involving Firewall Dragon), and instead of never printing another link monster again, they got rid of all the toxic ones and now Link monsters are pretty well accepted. I really think something similar could have happened with Companions had they allowed all the problematic ones to either be banned or rotated out of standard, and scale the next wave of them down power wise.
@@modernkiwi6447 the problem with companions was that the design came from a bad place from the start. Companions was a mechanic dreamed up when commander was popular but not officially supported. So WotC went "if you like having a commander, here we will give you commander in standard". Not understanding that people enjoyed commander for being different and generally low power, not for the hyper efficient extra deck monster.
the funny thing about Serra Paragon is that they had to rewrite the rules to make it work because as written under the rules when it released it just straight up could not give the exile ability to the things you replay with it
Reminds me of when they had to errata how cast prevention works as Squee could simply escape Ixalans Binding since attempting to cast him from exile moved him on the stack before "can't cast spells with the same name as the exiled card" was checked.
MBT brought up the Cheerios deck! Although the Cheerios deck MBT is talking about uses Puresteel Paladin and Sram, Senior Edificer to draw its entire deck with 0 Costing artifacts. Not the Cheerios deck that will come up later... Also the Hammertime deck MBT references is from 15 years ago in standard and uses Loxodon Warhammer, the ORIGINAL Hammertime
@@MBTYuGiOh @4:05 you said "Rhino Hammer" which i assume you meant "Loxodon Warhammer" which was the hammertime of the time @4:10 James described "Colossus Hammer" which has been a tier 1/2 deck for the past 3 years
I really like MBT. Great guy, funny and knows enough about magic to make nostalgic references. Keep him coming back on. He's a winner in my book even if he's not great at these videos.
Mbt is goated. really smart guy with a lot of personality. He is really good at expressing his thoughts too. I don't play ygo really anymore for the past couple years, but I still love watching mbt on ygo because he expresses things really well and is really clever and funny. People rag on him for not being pro pro but he's still very entertaining and insightful. He also used to be a host at ycs tournaments too so he has history of respect or trust.
As a Yu-Gi-Oh player: Please tell me deep-cavern bat is good, please tell me deep-cavern bat is good, please tell me deep-cavern bat is good. I want to play deep-cavern bat so bad.
@@goldenarmour7975it’s a smoke grenade on an evasive body, but if it dies they get the card back. Sees play throughout black in standard as a good 2 drop. Oh and it has lifelink too so it’s got grind game.
I am pretty sure that MBT did not work out that this case when solved was draw 3 per turn and not draw 2. Might have made the decision a bit harder at least. That being said its only good if the format is slow enough that the format allows you to take a whole turn, or almost a whole turn, off to set up ancestral every turn. Which is to say its super playable in standard RDW if that deck is good but will probably not end up in say modern burn.
One niche interaction that can make Biting Palm ninja much better, but is too niche to save it is that it remains an unblocked attacker even after it's damage trigger resolves, so you can ninjutsu something else in to return it to your hand, letting you do it all again next turn, with a new menace counter when it enters again.
I really like the thought process used by someone that has played the game but doesn't know the cards, the back and forth about past formats takes me back too. I know its probably a challenge to pick cards for someone that is familiar with the game, but picking from Standard would throw me off too, lol, Great video man!
@@TheOneJameYT Please show him Muldrotha and Cards like Arcane signet in the context, which won`t interact with the Commander, just too see his face ;)
This sounds like such a fun idea. A few combs come to mind: Showing Feather with Defiant Strike and Young Pyromancer, Meren of Clan Nel Toth with Plaguecrafter and Blood Artist. Stuff like that!
Thats a great idea, would also bring in more people to watch since EDH is the forefront of the game these days. Remember to explain to the guest the difference between casual EDH and the competitive format. Since cards like nekuzar might be "good" in casual EDH but almost unplayable in cEDH.
I love how magic will use keywords everywhere with the hope that it’ll be easier to read than explaining the entire effect, but then they just explain the entire effect anyway in parentheses
Why do they do that? It seems more confusing. Is it to simplify card text on other cards that reference that keyword, but don't use that effect (eg. a card that says "if target creature has hexproof" wouldn't have to explain what hexproof is), or something like that?
@@genm4827Yes, and also the way mtg handles its rarities means that they can drop the reminder text sometimes. Typically, more common cards will explain the effect in full, and rares and mythics will drop the reminder text on the assumption that you've had your chance to learn what it means from the commons. There's also the difference between KEYWORDS, which compress an effect down to one word, and ABILITY WORDS, which are basically just theming prompts to get players to think of a bunch of cards as being related. In yugioh terms, Toon would be an ability word, because being a Toon doesn't mean anything in itself, the card's own individual effect tells you what being a Toon means for that one card.
I actually played a lot of Pauper about 3 years ago - last format I was actively keeping up with. Loved me some BW Pestilence, one of my favorite childhood cards.
So since you asked, The original counterpart to power creeping was (power )nerfing, However nowadays power curbing is the more accurate (albeit underutilised) term.
With Modern Horizons 3 having callbacks to old cards, it would be awesome to have MBT come back to rate MH3 cards (especially ones that allude to old cards) after the first few big tournaments. :)
The thing that he probably didn't get about Crimson Pulse is that it's draw 2 EVERY TURN after it's solved. It just gives you so many cards to throw out in the throw-out-cards-that-do-2.5-damage-each deck.
He called it a Howling Mine, so I think he realized that. What I do think he missed is it draws 2 during upkeep, then you draw another card during draw step. Either that, or it's just exactly what he said in the video: "You're paying 3 mana in RDW?"
Yeah 3 cards a turn in RDW is pretty good. Just upfront it's giving a card too so that's not bad unless you get landflooded then you can't really solve the case quickly to get to the draw 3 cards a turn.
Every time I hear about new mtg sets my brain glazed over and I turn into an old man, shaking my cane and going "Back in my day..." Every set after War of the Spark just hit me with wave after wave of "I don't belong here anymore. Everything I love is old and dusty now."
17:19 As a stargazing aficionado, my brain can't stop seeing the conected dots in the art as the pegasus constelation and it's anoying me LOL it's not 1 to 1, but my pattern recognition is kicking in. Edit: Stargazer LOL
Gurmag Angler still sees play in Pauper in decks like Dimir Terror and Dimir Fairies that quickly fill their graveyards with small stuff (cantrips make the Terror cheaper and then you can exile them for Angler after that)
The brief confusion around "Hammertime" in this video got me thinking that the current Modern Hammertime deck would be a good option if you wanted to do another video of YGO players rating recent MTG Modern deck archetypes. It would be interesting to see how one of them might evaluate an actual combo deck in the other game, but it's also a relatively simple and straightforward combo deck without many pieces that should be fairly easy to understand. Maybe something like, Ornithopter as the "bonus card" at the start, then Urza's Saga, Esper Sentinel, Colossus Hammer, Stoneforge Mystic, Sigarda's Aid, Puresteel Paladin? I think that should be a pretty easy one. Another idea that this video got me thinking about: The bringing up of the tendency of games to make powered-down versions of famously overpowered cards makes me think a fun concept for a video would be showing a player an infamously broken card from the other game, and then showing them a bunch of nerfed retrains of it, and making them guess how good all the different new versions are - which ones are still broken, which ones are good, which ones are actually bad. I know Yu-Gi-Oh has umpteen different "Pot Of" cards based off of Pot Of Greed, but I'm not sure if it's ever done that for any other cards, but I know Magic has a bunch of cards that have had many subsequent cards that are take-offs on their design trying to "fix" them, mostly the Power Nine and other famous cards from the first set.
You should do a "color focused" series. Like next time do 1 mono blue, and 1 of each of the blue/x 2 color pair's. Thatd be interesting to watch. Maybe expand out to all pioneer legal cards?
11:04 The cloak effect says turn creature face up at any time for its mana cost. Am I correct in noticing that it doesn't say anything about being at Sorcery speed, and thus you can get creatures at Flash speed?
As someone with no MtG experience the only one I got was Case of the Crimson Pulse, because of Jinx from Legends of Runeterra having basically the same effect and being a staple of aggro for years.
Huh, I would have given Serra Paragon as playable in the context of Standard. Sure, it’s fallen out of the meta now, but it’s had at least a year before that IIRC
I don't know if you also know anything about flesh and blood, but I think having someone like MBT who has all these well thought out thought processes for card evaluation would be a good watch.
From my MTGA experience: Serra Paragon: I played a bit of White Aggro and is just mid. If it could be tutored into the field it would be better, but eh. Solid in draft though. Cryptid Coat: After playing the other MBT deck (T for Tempo), a pseudo Tolarian Terror generator that is also unblockable with the equipment can't be that bad. I've tried to use Surge engine and Bankbuster in Blue before. This is way better. Palm-Bite Ninja: First deck I tried to make in Arena. But yeah, it needs to be 1 mana less to be viable in Ninjas. Same cost does not cut it, even with the Dimir ninja that lowers Ninjitsu costs. Case of the Crimson Pulse: A better Ambergris? Yes, please (I've played enough alchemy for gems with RDW, don't judge me). Axebane Ferox: I thought there could be an use case as a side vsf some Black (Mostly if they play Tenacious Underdog) or Red Decks, since it just stays on field being annoying. Maybe even vs Blue Tempo if they are still on Tolarian and Djinn since losing GY can suck. But I guess I was wrong.
I think that case of the crimson pulse was misjudged a bit because it was treated as 1 extra card (howling mine). The ability is on upkeep which means you still get your normal draw. So it is 2 extra cards per turn, not just 1. That's a pretty big difference.
For future episodes with having people guess yugioh cards, i was thinking maybe you could do one with ritual archetypes ? For example, Nekroz, Vendread, and Voiceless Voice for guessing the tiers of archetypes ?
As a Yugioh player looking at Serra Paragon, I was like "This card is good... wait... you have to pay mana for the permanent? Ah it's still good it gets a land.... wait it doesn't just put the land onto the battlefield? This card is awful." Wizards really going to great lengths to make incredibly awful mythic cards as pack filler to make you spend more money to get whatever new staple is in the mythic slot.
Biting Palm is Actually pretty good in standard cuz can be combined with Ninjutsu ability,recycle effects and silverfang also it have menace that is good as well as the effect to see the hand and disrupt a card,arguably only surpassed by the damned bat!
The first video that was suggested under this video was this video again. It happened twice. RU-vid really wants me to know what MalfaBalfaTalfa thinks of Magic the Gathering
I honestly think cases didn’t go far enough. They’re basically just sagas with a condition to advance them. And none of the conditions for cases even have anything to do with gathering information.
If any Yu-Gi-Oh players ask a Magic player about the "Once per turn" part of Magic cards and ask if it's a "Hard" or "Soft" Once Per Turn, say "Soft". If you flicker or reanimate the card, that ability has been reset as it's treated as a new version, which means that's a "Soft Once Per Turn."
ah yes, show mainly cards from the set that was so disliked at my lgs the prerelease packs (and the bonus packs) didn't sell out until like 2 weeks AFTER OTJ released (whose prereleases sold out in few days)
