Correction I paid 323.00 shipped. 28.8 cents a round,, Ammoman still has these in stock for 335.00,, 7.62x39 123 grain M67 round They are listed as a tad hotter than normal steel case rounds.
M67 rounds have the similar behaviour like regular 5.45x39 ammo, they're very prone to tumbling in flesh. The tumble effect is not evident as early as in the case of 5.45x39, as M67 starts to tumble a bit later, but the overall effect on the ballistic gel is almost the same.
I have heard stories on how hundereds of thousands bullets were being dumped in the truck loads in the river after end of the war. Also recently i was told that a guy jumped in the, se stuck his hands 50cm in the mud and started to retrive bullets. Apperantly, some of the bullets were still dry inside when projectile was removed from brass.
Greetings from Serbia Not true that the army throw any of the ammunition or weapons in the river.Many civilians are given weapons to defend themselves while withdrawing ,when they arrived in Serbia, they did not know what to do with that weapon.Some are still keeping these weapons today. Although by Srbskim law they can not have it so they threw some into the river.
+guitartownguns You got that right every time I heard a truck that sounded like a UPS truck I was looking out the window to see if it was the Ammo, lol.
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I have a case of it. beautiful ammo, visible flame coloring on annealed case necks. Mildly corrosive, and the red primer sealant gets everywhere in the action, but great stuff overall.
What a time capsule, no idea why this was in my feed. This stuff is long gone, I used it in my 7.62 AR because steel case breaks extractors. Never had any failures with it, great stuff. Memories.
I think the tabs around the outside of the box are so they can be air dropped into the field and secured in transport. But yeah I think you got a nice deal thanks for showing us Be cool brother 😎
This is such a well-thought out system for military ammunition storage, transport, and distribution. They can be stored for decades airtight. They can be transported in easily stackable crates. Soldiers can receive their cans and open the cans quickly. The rounds are even already in neat stripper clips. The US Army system has a bit more bells and whistles: bandoliers and such, but this is just massive industrial scale stuffs. Lucky that they were stockpiled for an Armageddon that never comes and Americans get to buy these ammunitions as surplus. Let's keept it that way.
On the bullet it says ППУ - Први партизан Ужице (PPU - Prvi partizan Užice). That's in Serbia. Prvi partizan (First partisan when translated into English) is today one of most renowned ammo producers in the world, selling their products on all world's continents, and many armies also buy from them. Today their entire production is sold years ahead.
But, on your case, stands ИК - IK - Igman, Konjic... Konjic (translated on english - a little horse :-) ) is a town in Bosnia and Igman is a nearby mountain by which ammo factory got its name... IK ammo has different type of gunpowder than PPU and its a bit stronger and louder than PPU. Both PPU and IK ammo is better than steel case ammo from China. It`s more reliable and has better trajectory... BTW every few months we have a visit from yours C-17 which are filled with such crates and flown out God knows where...
+Nikola Korbar No...for your info this one is not PPU...it clearly said on the bottom of seal IK-7811-20...This is IGMIN, Konjic, in Bosnia, the best factory of ammo for AK and under 30 mm cal...! It is still making same stuff for buyers all around the world!!!
5:53 Stripper clips. That ammo crate was made when Yugoslavian army was still using Zastava PAP M59/66. Those semiautomatic rifles were using same caliber as AK-47
Just clean your rifle, being that this particular ammo is corrosive. That particular crate of ammo was made by Igman in Bosnia. IK head stamp is Bosnia PPU is Serbia, all Yugoslavia at that time.
potato LEADER yeah but they put a sealant on them sorta like the green stuff they put on the wood at home depot to make it past longer but in this case they use a ass load of it
I purchased 3 crates of this a while back for $179 each. It was funny because UPS delivered it to a little old lady and just left it stacked on her front porch, and THEN tried to say I signed for it. She drove over to my house to tell me it was blocking her sidewalk. It got worse as her son is a police officer. He shows up as I was there to get it off her porch. He wants to know why I have Russian crates of ammunition being delivered to his mothers house. Yeah, it was a real fun day. These are nice because the nitrate primers last a long time, and the case is sealed. Corrosive, but you just need to clean your rifle after your range trip and not just put it away for a week.
I think my answer to the cop would have been, "I didn't have it delivered here. See my address on the label? That's how your mother knew where to contact me, & why I'm here to get it. It's UPS that clearly can't read the numbers on a house, you might want to speak to them about this.". The cops I know would be totally chill about a little mishap like that. It sounds to me like someone was a bit overly full of himself that day.
Not nice when officers order you to drag it to a distant shooting range, trust me! The thing is as heavy as hell! And the one I dragged when I was in the army wasn't on stripper clips, a bit lighter... Loaded dozens of AK magazines that day for the officers to shoot... Pain in the ass... Still, not a single misfire in every shooting we had during my service in the Serbian army, so don't worry if you get it - good stuff. Works every time.
I remember when I could get (and did) an M-1 Garand for $175 down at this corner hardware store in Brookings OR. That was only 1991. Now you can hardly find them at all.
That is old stock - IK ( Igman, Konjic, Bosina and Herzegovina) PPU (Prvi Partizan Užice) was and is made in Serbia. Those clips are for easy load into semiautomatic M59 rifle.
When I was in the Army, we had to get rid of 57,000 rnds. Of .30 carbine that was in a reserve Marine unit bunker. They were in tropic packs. Sealed like yours . Inside were cans with ammo loaded in 15 rd. Magazines inside bandoleers. We really hated to blow that stuff up.
James, that's a crying shame, & a terrible waste. On the surplus market, that ammo would have sold like popsicles in hell. The Corps could have bought a ton of Toys For Tots with that kind of money, I hope they've quit doing that with their leftover ordnance.
Corrosive ammo is super easy clean up water and some spray,soap if you wish,do it AS Hicks after shooting as possible.Gas tube Assyrian needs wash out.
I think my dad still has two of those (he's serbian). And my also serbian neighbour who already gave me his m48 bayonett Has still some of those plus the right guns
Ivan, I think he means he shoots ammo from the same maker in his Zastava rifle. Other shooters & posters I know consider Sellier & Bellot 7.92X57 ammo to be outstanding. Their .303 British ammo, that I used to shoot in my No. 4 Lee-Enfield rifle, was the best I could find anywhere.
@@grantgarrod2232 there is no same maker, Zastava is from Serbia and it only makes rifles. On the other hand there is Prvi Partizan, same from Serbia , and it makes only ammunition. I work there and I know what I'm talking about. Btw we make Mauser ammo and 303. British. It's quality.
ИК 8011-20 IK 8011-20 Igman Konjic 1980, 11th month, 20th batch, regular bullet M67. Two more types: M78 with tracer (green paint), and M82 piercing-flammable (red-black combination of paints ) 1120 pieces crate (40 pieces in box), older variant for semiautomatic Zastava M59/66 1260 pieces crate (15 pieces in box), newer variant for automatic Zastava M70 Packing is probably not original from the factory due to the different designation of the series on the hermetic box. Maybe it's prepackaged, I do not know. On a cardboard box on right side is gunpowder designation: НЦ-08 (NC-08 Nitrocellulose. 08 is probably type) МБЛ 80142 MBL 80142 Milan Blagojevic Lucani 1980, 14th week, 2nd batch. I will update my comment in a few days, I just have to go to work to check the books, is everything I wrote correctly
same looking crate of the stuff we used to shoot in the Cuban army at least in the late 80s...mostly Romanian stuff and some Yugoslavian too!..it was kind of weird because it was hard to clean our AK-47Ms for some reason produced so much charcoal in the barrels and piston area.
That's not "charcoal". I think it might be the black sealant they used on the case rim and primer annulus. Or it could be the waterproof shellac used on steel cartridge cases (though Yugoslavian ammo used brass cases).
In Europe, in my country for having one piece of ammo, you are threatened with up to 10 years in prison. Probably for one piece of ammo I would not go for jail but I would only get probation for couple years . btw Ammo looks great I would buy too if I lived in the USA
Look like good storage boxes once the ammo is used and the sharp metal is all removed from inside of them. Ammo, being brass cased is more easily reloadable.
wolf has copper jacket non magetic ammo now, its accurate and range safe. california cant order online now but I ordered like 15k rounds before the deadline.
Thanks for showing the crate and ammo - I just ordered my first crate of this stuff. I need stripper clips so for me this is like ordering two items at once which brings the price per round down considerably when the good clips are hard to find on their own.
We in NY just need to jave it sent to an ffl dealer. Or apply and get ffl, many historic rifles and some ammo is even exempt. Little bit of a run around but not bad, also your local dealer may work with you if you buy bulk and also pass on the shipping savings...
Ik is Igman ammo made in 🇧🇦 Bosnia and it's still made in same factory and now this days it's made by girl's mostly. There is a video on RU-vid Igman Gorazde inside of factory. I had that ammo from BBM battle packs for my AK resantly, really hot stuff.
+southernmost homesteader I'm going to Gatlinburg on the 18th for vaction. I'm gonna look while I'm there. i have a couple leads to check out. I also found a nice place in Arkansas.
Made in nowadays Bosnia...IGMIN Konjic...it said on the bottom of metal seal IK - 7811 - 20...what is basically factory info's...They still doing same quality stuff for worldwide customers including US...
This stuff is SO corrosive that it will cause rusting of the sights even with proper barrel cleaning! I would only use this on bolt action rifles and nothing else. I would pour boiling water down the breech prior to cleaning to get rid of these corrosive salts. My Combloc guns mean enough to me that I use only noncorrosive primers, except for any bolt action gun-John in Texas
Cool to see. Metaxa yeah I remember Iw been drinking Metaxa Brandy Metaxa Rum and Metaxa "Martini". Metaxa were as I remember the Gov, Industry for all kinds of suplys. 36 years old amo, that reminds me Im starting become old my self. Went to Jugoslavia for a hollyday back in 1983 after military service, more precisly to Ulcinj - Montenegro. Good price you got there, 28,8 pence a shot incl shipping. In Norway you have to pay about 80 cents and for 7.62x39 SOVIET 123GR FUSION nearly 2 dollar. Back in my days we used 7.62 in the Norwegian Forces. HK AG3 was a good rifle for whats ment back then.
So, they rounds come in stripper clips, unlike chinese surplus ammo. That's kinda neat. You can use those to load an SKS or a VZ-58, or to load AK mags with the help of a stripper clip guide tool. If those rounds have corrosive primers, they are likely the berdan type. Since they have brass cases, it could be reloaded, but it could be kinda of a hassle. The opening method, compared to other ammo span cans, is kinda on the brutish side, but it takes less time than other cans.
Bear in mind, sir, that yugoslavian/serbian AK rifles are more reinforced than regular AKM rifles, they essentially have the same receivers as the RPK. Regular AK receivers are strong enough, but RPK receiver are even more so. Makes sense they load their rounds a bit hotter. Obviously, they would perform better with a rifle with a long barrel, like an SKS or an RPK. And cleverly so, each box has 4 stripper clips, for a total of 40 rounds per box, and that's the capacity of an RPK mag.
Xerxes, actually brass casings with corrosive primers are not reloadable, because corrosive by-products are driven into the brass, which makes it harder & very brittle. If reloaded, the cases are almost sure to rupture upon firing, & the only way to remove the compounds is to melt down the brass. A friend of mine shoots lots of this ammo through his SKS, & he gives the cases to a local machinist, who happily melts them down into ingots, which he machines into all sorts of useful items.
I’m in Long Island New York and I order ammo all the time! It’s nice to feel bad for us but you’re not speaking the truth! Shipped to our door no problem!
In any country of former Yugoslavia you'd end up in jail for 10 year for having that.Btw ammo is made in Zastava factory,Kragujevac Serbia.Even today,most of their ammo end up (except Serbian army) in USA,or its bought by USA for their allies like ISIS etc. If you think im joking,i am not.
original kebab remover/a true hero Besides rude, you must be brain dead. 1)- Nobody has offended you 2)- Everibody has the right to his own opinion. 3)- Nobody has called you names, (until now). 4)- I don't know what you are talking about. 5)- It seems, that you don't know what we are talking about!! It seems that you have great difficulty in understanding... 6)- F****I you!!!! It is a waste of time talking to an imbecile!!!!!
More people that claim certainty over intricate, complex geopolitical affairs. Evidence? Actual solid evidence that doesn't rely on hunches or character assassinations?
never seen those lovely wide crates on clips. got some chinese ones on clips around these days but only had the czech crates on clips before that. very cool!
I can assure you that amo is good and won't misfire often , I was only a child when war broke out but I can't remember our amo misfiring compared to Hungarian Romanian or Bulgarian made rounds .
When you get gun gets hot cuz you popped off three or four mags take some zMAX engine additive and poured into the boat breach area on the bolt carrier down the barrel and down the Piston down in the piston area Port all over it let it run into a bucket it'll pregnant the medal and help you going out a little bit longer lubricate it and it'll keep the corrosion down
Back in JHB in the mid - eighties I got a hold of some Czech 9mm for my CZ75. It too seemed hotter than the regular local stuff. Good ammo though, in fact I preferred it.
Phil, the Czechs have long had a reputation for building their military small arms ammo rather on the warm side. Their CZ-52 pistol was roller-locked & extra strong, & the 7.62 Tokarev ammo made for it & Czech submachine guns was loaded waaaay hot. When some of it hit the market in the latter 80's, buyers that shot the ammo in Mauser C-96 Broomhandle pistols were getting blown extractors & damaged bolts, before retailers could warn shooters about it. This was an extreme case, but folks who own chronographs can confirm most Czech ammo is noticeably speedier than average. A steady diet of such probably isn't the best for your favorite bangstick.
To make your stripper clips work better, a light coat of wax will help the rounds to feed MUCH easier. Saw it on some Czech BXN strippers for my VZ 58.
Rat Route, the word on the numerous SKS forums is that the BXN-stamped stripper clips are the gold standard best, both in function & durability. If you decide to part with any, advertise them online, they'll sell in a flash.
Can u tell me the difference of corrosive and non corrosive ammo? Isnt a bullet just a bullet? Im shopping on sg ammo rigjt now and was looking at some golden tiger 7.62 by 39.
Made from Old Yugos I hope. Yugoslavia's was way better than the car they produced. I'm glad they got to split into their own countries but it sucks what they had to go through to do it.
+southernmost homesteader Are you in GA by the chance? By the way, ammo you have got is made in city of Konjic, nowadays a Bosnia, because it clearly said IK on seal...I don't know why this serb Nikola told you it is in PPU when it doesn't say PPU nowhere...weird...!!! The factory still working and manufacturing a bunch of variety of ammo all calibers and sizes...
This ammo 7.62X39 ten rounds on clips,was special destined for SKS carbines,in former communist countries.Even today,romanian army use the SKS carbines,on Romanian Guard Regiment.You can use those rounds on AK47,is the same chamber caliber.
Anyone in NY State who thinks they can't order ammo is mistaken. We can order ammo as long as you have it shipped to a FFL, which I do all of the time. Just find a FFL that won't try to charge you a fee for doing so, which they shouldn't since there is no transfer being done. It is really no different from shipping to your house or going to the store to buy ammo. My gun store does not charge a fee they just call me when my package arrives and I go pick it up and they don't even have to know what got ordered. Learn the laws to the fullest for your own good so you don't give the government more disillusioned control over your freedom.