Yuji vs Gon - Why It Isn't That Close 

Pulling a kurapika?

@@justincarter1217 more like a Gon but kinda

@@justincarter1217 more like Gon cause of the single Pitou and in this case single Sukuna, instead of a group like the Spiders

In other words what Kashimo did.

​@@Bft149Nah that was just the side effect of his innate cursed technique that he was saving for Sukuna

Did you even read JJK? Domains are created through pure CE, everything inside and outside. That's just how techniques work in JJK, so the ability to create a mountain using your own CE is still mountain level, because it requires a mountain's worth of energy.

@@crock3251 that would mean that Gojo has infinite cursed energy and would be a living god, running around all of the entire jjk universe on a whim like when Metro Man was deciding to fake his death. In all likelihood, domain expansion is not a literal 1:1 power scaling of jjk characters.

@@crock3251so dagan is stronger than jogo ? lmfao u jjk niggas are hilarious

debatable since domains are the pinnacle of Jujutsu and are basically created from your own CE reserves, if Dagon's domain(sure hit included) doesn't scale to this amount of CE itself within the domain then it really makes no sense, in this case your confusing AP and DC in terms of the domain feats, if we're to translate their AP into DC, Dagon can very easily destroy an island if he had the "Ability" to do so, but his CT doesn't work like that, while we know Jogo is more than capable of destroying an island with his meteor depending on whether he drops it from a higher distance..(since dagon's domain drains his CE reserves its safe to say its more than half and this applies to others who use domain expansion as well) so they have the energy required to destroy islands but lack the ability to do so lmao I probably misunderstood your comment mb haha

@@angelramirez936 comparing a different domain doesn't work lmao, if we're going off the energy required to make a domain as strong as Gojo's it would be equal to sukuna who has at least 2x the amount of CE as yuta who has a boundless amount, which scales his domain expansion to have more CE than Dagon by 2x, since jogo couldn't win a domain clash and he was stated to be on another level to dagon, the amount of energy gojo needs to create his domain = Mountain level or higher given that gojo was stated by kenjaku to be able to power a full nation..(time frame never mentioned so its debatable) the location within the domain doesn't really matter, its the amount of energy required to make it lol Dagon's Domain = Island(small, medium, big) Jogo's Domain > Dagon(Mountain) Sukuna's Domain > Jogo's Domain Gojo's Domain = Sukuna's Domain meaning they output the same amount of energy (Mountain level)

Also, I really appreciate you just acknowledging the fact that Gon's adult contract just probably wouldn't be used because it isn't in character. So often these VS videos go "well they're both bloodlusted so they use absolutely everything" but sometimes it just really is not in character whatsoever, and the real character outcome is completely overlooked. It's still nice to see them throwing absolutely everything that they have, but it's nicer to get the more likely scenarios acknowledged beforehand.

Not even though, straight up suicidal. It's a whole point in the story that he's self destructive to an unhealthy degree, which is why his growth is followed by support gear almost every single time after a certain point.

my hero academia is baby shonen

That pfp is vile

pfp op, but also MHA i love but i think you are giving Deku too much credit, he's not choosing to hurt himself...he doesn't care, or protecting people is more important. Which is dumbas**** and why everyone told him to calm down and not be a vigilante. Gon learned this the hard way, that giving up your body for strength is extremely selfish/unproductive. That was the subversion of the trope. (maaaaybe ichigo learned this way as well?) I'd even say yuji just "pushing through sukana's slaughter is due to him not thinking, and just pressing on. not him being "mentally tough to bare with that level of damage almost constantly."

Ngl aint that crazy considering how Sukuna is dodging EM WAVES close range against kashimo being damaged (( Electromagnetic waves are light speed )). Yes his personal fights are important. Though if he's comparable or equal to a certain to that character. Then it's relevant. Which should be somewhat viable for Yuji due to being physically comparable to them with cursed energy (( he was able to keep up with Maki well not keep up but follow her pace in vs sukuna. )) Which isn't allat bad I'd say. sorry for being a yapper lol

@@Morgan340 manga spoilers for anime watchers: i just read the fight again. when did he dodge EM waves? He dodges a point blank attack before Kashimo fires it, then cleave's one of Kashimo's energy blasts (lightning, I assume...?) in two. nothing there really shows light speed reactions.

@@Morgan340em waves are only light speed when in a vacuum

@@PraiseYeezus even 1% the speed of light stupid fast and lightning travels at nearly 34% the speed of sound and he cleaves this nearly point blank

​@@josiahartis4207electro magnetic waves are light speed in air too

Facts!

Bro was using that double hand technique.

The weapon she used shot rubber bullets, in order not to hurt people forever or at least something akin to that. Also she used a conjured bullet, something we can't calculate on speed wise but if you use the anime its not that fast. Also like toji she has advanced sight, and reaction speed (unrealist but makes sense in anime)...all to say the jjk story surprisingly has consistency and people try to say it doesn't to equate it to all the other series. Much like hxh gege loves science and over explaining he doesn't have one piece (a good story) feats like I can take a hit from someone moving at the speed of light and survive (likely its assumed that too was not the speed of light) or I can push buildings apart but cant lift something smaller etc. No story is perfect thou. But gege adds so many specifics and is a huge manga fan so I think he cares about the power scaling stuff.

Been saying this but these people cant see to understand it thanks for also having a brain

@@nichescenes What does "(a good story)" got to do with this?

@@KingShlime69 People online like to say most popular shonen are trash and nitpick anything they do. Take a character out, bad writing, don't ugh plot armor, fights, ugh no plot, talk, too much exposition. My point is "a good story" is up to people but sometimes they get very hard to please. I get if you or others hate the story, but dan it ain't that bad...people sometimes make it like they watched paint dry and got punched while watching cause they hate it so bad...Ive seen people say its the worst story ever made and the plot has no progress and nothing happens etc...fights bad, animation bad, so on...

The mach3 thing doesn't make sense it's to slow. We have character like kashimo that can create any lightning phenomenon. Sakuna was dodging lightning. Hakari reacting to lightning. Gojo pulling a .02 domain and killing a train full of deform human in second. And you think it make sense that toji and Maki are slower than Mach3 while they are supposed to represent the peak of physicality in jjk. But it also cause Gege is not has obsess with power scaling like us.

Honestly, it's wild. The scaling of the Jujustu world is crazy inconsistent.

And we're not going to talk about Gon using advanced applications of nen to defend himself?

@@quincy9908 It's more a case of power scaler being ridiculous How Can you even day that Yuji is Hypersonic without being ironic

@@diono5324 how can you say yuji is anything below hypersonic without being ironic . if you're going to use the mach 3 statement , the statement is absolute ass and it's been debunked on dozens of different occasions by gege himself

@@quincy9908when is power scaling EVER consistent?

Unless the opponent is Sukuna

Because he's pure power. If he gripped a building, he'd tear a chunk out. People throwing buildings at their size is a skill/energy manipulation feat moreso than a strength feat. If you gripped a building wall with the strength to uproot the building, you'd rip the chunk you're gripping, out and crumble it.

@@sageoverheavenhe could literally just pull it down

Couldn't disagree more. Jjk has characters doing absolutely insane high scale bullshit. Yujis fights especially are generally more close quarters and intimate so the spectacle doesn't get as high but it's clear they're supposed to be fighters capable of decimating the environment around them with ease

going off the fact that even megumi can tank being punched into multiple buildings, I dont think its a high ball, more like the Author doesn't consider those feats before making weird statements, Yuji can very easily destroy a building if he wanted to just off his insane physical abilities anyway

yes he is lmao, hanami is more durable than jogo meaning she can tank more attacks than he could, keep in mind jogo is a step above dagon who with his domain can create an island out of his own CE reserves, meaning he can dish out what he can take since its literally his own CE(CE reinforcement) Yuji individually can damage hanami who scales above Jogo in terms of durability, meaning she probably has more CE or is relative to jogo and high ball or low ball it Yuji would scale to this since his AP is just ridiculous and that's his main fighting style.. left right good night

​@@Sanctus_xlsure bud

@@YoureMy_Valentine idk maybe read the manga 🙄👍

i was thinking the same thing this is why powerscalers suck

It doesn’t make any sense cuz what you just said isn’t the point he made it’s a dumbed down version that u made to intentionally look stupid. Firstly the mountain isn’t imaginary and it’s not a specific ability domain expansions are usable by anyone wit CT. And yeah creating things takes energy and being able to exert enough energy to create mountains and entire islands is applied to there bodies because they used CE to do that and they are literally made of CE. This isn’t disconnected at all as special grades are literally said to be able to defeat entire NATIONS by themselves.

@@jinmaliyou don’t understand even in the confines of Jjk the outside of a domain is much smaller than the inside so yes it is an imaginary mountain yes the terrain exists inside but it doesn’t take up the space of a mountain and theres literally no reason how this would equate to durability or power.

@@monkcheese6218 no YOU don’t understand, it does take up the space of a mountain the inside is bigger then the outside this is shown and explained Dagon literally has an entire island in his domain expansion.

Are you just stupid or do you not understand? Domains are made purely from the casters Cursed energy, meaning the caster would have to scale to it. By being able to harm the caster would mean you would have to be relative to them, hence Yuji does scale to Jogo's mountain.

Doesn’t matter. By this logic goku or superman are only barely faster than light even tho if you look at their feats they can clearly move trillions of times faster than that. Feats carry more weight than statements do in terms of power scaling.

@@oliverschofitz8474 it does matter if the author puts actual info for us to scale off of simply so his story doesn’t get blown out of proportion. He put it there for that exact reason. You can say they’re however fast, it’s wrong when the writer says it’s wrong.

@@saucekay6793 then we disagree.

Yo do you have a link for jumpfest?

@@rewindz6562 plenty on google you can search up

incorrect

@@BrokenRonin thank you for proving my point 😉

small house level is just absoloutely insane. He broke and busted through concrete walls at the literal first couple of chapters in the series, and youre telling me he's only upgraded to small house? Delusional. Did you forget the manga literally saying that a carpet bomb is needed to destroy special grades? And these special grades are things like the detension centre curse, which yuji clearly out powered ages ago. The fact is that yuji beat up mahito to the brink of death and even damaged a 15 finger sukuna with his punch to the jaw. The minimum acceptable scale would be building. Anything less is just trying to low ball him. @@Taislinmaosdela

​@@Taislinmaosdelahe just doesn't wanna argue with your for hours in a youtube comment section puking 1000s of words of back and forth paragraphs. In other words, he has a life

@@FAKE_NARU He's making powerscaling videos, so no he doesn't lmao.

At the bare minimum you need cluster bombs to damage a special grade and that's the finger bearer I'm talking about. Jogo is multiple levels above that so you tell me how much attack potency it takes to damage the disaster curses

@@KinomaroMakhosinii know you’re scaling. But lore wise cluster bombs or even a nuke would do nothing because curses can only be harmed by cursed energy.

​@@MephilBut that scale is to show the level of attack power needed to defeat different levels of curses so it does apply

@@KinomaroMakhosini that doesn't really say much though. Cluster bombs are more about spreading a lot of damage over a wide area, individually they're not *that* powerful and I wouldn't even put those type of explosions at enough to wipe out a large town. They can't even destroy tanks 100% of the time.

​@@KinomaroMakhosinigege said if gojo hit him with a black flash he would die. He's a glass cannon

To be honest. Hanami’s durability isn’t even Island level in the first place

​@@anhthai7005bro these power chanels are just ridiculous man like just enjoy the show my nigga

thats pre-shibuya yuji

@@atherapists3331still doesn’t make sense

​@@anhthai7005 Wall level cluster bomb upscaling 💀

Yuji at this point is at multi city block. If he was as strong as the video says he would solo mahito and sukuna with punch’s alone

@@mangkhai3814he was using the same scaling for both of them, when he wasn’t factoring the highballs for Yuji, he also didn’t factor it for Gon. And when he lowballed both, Yuki still outstays Gon

@@user-uv6qu3wb5d the point is that the scaling he's using for Yuji's high-end and low-end scalings is off, in my opinion. Yuji being small town level is a bit dubious.

you know you can have island level ap without having the range to destroy an island right? @@PraiseYeezus

AP≠DC. I do agree Island Lvl is generous for Yuji but the actual potency of his strikes would have energy equal to explosions leveling city blocks. Not even mentioning Black Flash which is an exponential increase in power. It's easy to see how someone can highball Yuji.

facts

outputting enough energy to create an island for dagon

thats an Innate Domain you are talking about. Innate Domains are metaphysical, it's the mental/spiritual place that yuji was trapped in along with sukuna when his heart got ripped out. An actual Domain Expansion physically constructs the enviorment using cursed energy/brings the Innate Domain into reality, if you will, and then it seperates that space from the rest of the world with a Barrier (in most cases) In dagons case, you can physically interact with the enviorment like sand, trees, water, all of it has physical properties to it, similar to jogos case, there is actual lava and volcanic rock everywhere. now granted, some of the things constructed within a domain are purely cosmetic, like the black hole and the stars in space in gojos domain, it's safe to say those are purely there for the visual aesthetic, as the black hole doesnt share any of the actual properties, traits or qualities that a real black hole would. It had no gravitational pull, it didnt pull anyone towards it, and if it was the vacuum of space, people would die of suffocation, neither was there any lethal cosmic radiation or -270c temperatures that should have instantly frozen the people gojo affected in shibuya these things should really be taken with a grain of salt, examined on a case by case basis.

Pretty sure that in the jackpot state the cursed energy pool isn't actually "infinite" it just regenerates as soon as he uses it

@@conigonde no it's stated as infinite, you're thinking of his regen

the author debunks said statement dozens of times , use your fucking brain for a second

Yes the author is objectively wrong because the feats performed by the characters prove the statement wrong. Yuji is massively hypersonic and sukuna is light speed. Cope

​@@oliverschofitz8474​ All the calcs I've seen debunking those statements are all objectively wrong 💀 Hakari's MHS+ 'dodging' lightning calc only measured the distance to his face and not the distance the bolt traveled to his shoulder. (He doesn't even more relative to it 💀) Same problem with the MHS calc for Nanami dodging Mahito's blade, only measuring the distance to his face and not the actual distance the blade travels across the building. The Maki bullet calc is more understandable due to us not getting a clear look at her head relative to the bullet when she grabs said bullet. But since the exact distance the bullet moved is unknown, it should just be said she's relative to it or subsonic since rubber bullets have a muzzle velocity of 60 m/s. And more calcs

​@jackaboynaylor9273 1. The hakari feat is valid because it wasn't traveling to his shoulder it was traveling to his brain and he dodged it making the bolt only hit his shoulder 2. I agree the nabami calc is terrible 3. Maki dodges lightning 4. Kashimo shows consistently that he can move faster than his own lightning 5. Sukuna has a shibuya feat that gets him massively hypersonic etc

Cause it is wrong. The statement is inconsistent with the actual feats in the story. If dragon ball super said goku at full speed was 100mph wouldn't call bs on it because that doesn't line up with his feats of speed in the story?

Netero is clearly faster than sound post -prayer. We're told this when he smacks Pitou away like a fly. During his training flashback his punch broke the sound barrier so idk what Ronin talking about. Nothing vague about that.

@@SolidSnake240 Also let's not forget that Pitou is easily as fast as sound herself. Netero knocked her 500m away with his initial attack, and she was able to show up back at the palace less than half a second later. And Netero was so fast, that Pitou had to focus to her utter limit to even see Netero's arm move...and she still couldn't understand what she got hit with.

​@@PraiseYeezusFacts

Exactly. Not to mention we don’t know how much faster he was than sound in his base form as in the scene he “teleported” and the sound came much after the punch so you can’t just immediately assume it’s Mach 1 or 2

​@@PraiseYeezuslet's not forget pitou used her fastest attack at that time, which is stated to be launched 0.1 seconds after she starts readying up for it, and netero started his prayer AFTER she started this super fast attack, and he STILL hit her first, before those 0.1 seconds even ended lmao

bro speakin nothin but facts

Bro no version of kid Gon is stronger than yuji.

@@AndrewManook Characters who are fodder for gon like the chimera ant officers are casually able to dodge bullets and even the peons can tank bullets with no problem. Gon is at least thrice as strong as every officer even before he trained with bisky to fight knuckle, that training arguably doubling his combat prowess . People underscale hxh because it doesn't treat feats like these with the same verbal transparency as series like jjk or demon slayer.

facts@@fuffythegreat

Uh most domain users in the series don't use most of their energy to do a domain. Doing a domain simply stresses part of your brain too much, to the point it needs to heal before you can domain again. That's what causes the time limit and cool down period if it was simply uses a lot of energy? Characters like Yuta would be capable of it multiple times in a row, and he's not. Meanwhile someone like Gojo wouldn't and he IS. And Sukuna would've gotten drastically weaker than Gojo throughout their fight from spamming it in case you wanna try and excuse Gojo doing it as "Six eyes give him infinite cursed energy" ... And if it was just energy it wouldn't affect using your normal technique but it does. Even Yuta the dude famous for having the most energy out of anyone but Sukuna. Still can't use a technique for a short while after using a domain. Though I do agree using domains for calcs is sometimes a weird feat since it's a hax thing using it to try and calculate Yuji's punching power? Is kinda unreliable.

@@daymianhogue1634 isnt it specifically mentioned that most users can't do it multiple times in a day, and it specifically uses alot of CE and drains ur CT?

@@pan1c974 it's specifically stated most users can't do it multiple times a day. And that it requires a lot of talent to do it. And makes it so you can't use your CT for a few minutes. It's never really implied to be a CE cost issue. And if it was Yuta would be able to spam it, but Yuta himself says he can't. And Yuta is also stated to have more CE than Gojo. But Gojo can do it multiple times a day. Sukuna has 2x the CE Yuta does, but he can do it like 5x in an hour in his fight vs Gojo. And people with substantially less CE than Yuta can also do domain expansion. It's very obviously not a CE limit thing. Sukuna explains your CT and Domain are stored in parts of your brain and they get tired/worn out from using your domain which is why there's the time limit and cool down. Gojo and Sukuna both broke the cooldown by using RCT in a weird way.

By this line of logic Nanami, Maki, and Naobito should’ve been instantly obliterated by Dagons DE but they weren’t

​@@daymianhogue1634It is absolutely implied to be a CE cost issue on the reason for the ONE DAY COOLDOWN. The thing that allows GOJOU to use domain multiple times a day is his absurd cursed energy efficiency. Similarly, the characters who can use domain see their cursed technique's cooldown go out and are able to use CT again MUCH earlier than they are able to use domain again. At the very least, Domain Expansion uses more than half of the CE reserves of the vast majority of the verse.

that's because Gojo doesn't have infinite CE 😐

​@@TheDormantPsnd you think jogo has😂

It's a finite amount of information that gets repeated forever. Hence the 2 or 8 months of info in his 0.2 sec domain and not ♾️

@@TheDormantP He has effectively infinite CE. His CE expenditure is infinitely close to zero due to the six eyes.

@@Mepharias I guess you aren't up to date on the manga, but his fight with Sukuna made it very clear that his CE use is not infinitely close to zero lmao, not at all. It's just really low.

it's always funny seeing idiots who know nothing about powerscaling yap about scaling , ruin the fun for everyone and then criticises the people who actually know what they're talking about . the powerscaling community has one of the most intense cases of the duning kruger effect and retarded comments like yours absolutely show this

Bro what are you on about. Toji would be able to take cluster bombs easy.

@@oliverschofitz8474 but not when he stabbed himself in the head?

@@high_define playful cloud scales directly to the strength of the user. so If someone has mountain level ap, then if they used playful cloud then it would also have mountain level ap.

Bros just yapping

We didn't see full power of Yuji either, so imo power scaling someone who isn't at the end of their journey yet is not a good method of scaling

@@senjusan6359but adult gon wasn't as the end of their journey. its a cannon form that actually happened where end of journey yuji is simply head cannon.

@@senjusan6359I mean gon journey might not be technically over either so 🤷🏾‍♂️

@@chicken1456 sorry but he's not getting his nen back lol

Nahh I don't think adult Gon has shown much to be more powerful then Yuji’s especially most of Yuji’s feats have been given a conservative estimate

If you punched jogo in the face, 1 you wouldn't touch him you would go right through him, 2 durability and ap are much different, just because you can output a certain amount of power doesnt mean you can take it, 3 jogo is a curse, he doesn't have bones or skin, 4 if you did manage to punch jogo, you wouldn't hurt him, jogo has weak durability compared to other curses but you are like drywall lv with a monster energy drink Kyle. It's not that power scaling is funny to you, you just don't understand it because your iq and my thermostat shares the same number.

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​@@XilPrivChannelHe would touch him. Cursed spirits are normally invisible not intangible with only the lower grades that are capable of phasing.

​@@XilPrivChannelJogo can't even output a domain's worth of CE into an attack to begin with or else he would be sucked completely dry of energy in like the first three punches.

@@jackaboynaylor9273 this is just incorrect you see the disaster curses phasing through people at the restaurant with kenny

Domain Expansion: Left, Right, Goodnight

Jumpjustsu is a very potent technique 😂😂😂😂

it wasnt a nuke like explosion it was just a shiny effect

@@khalidmallhi?

@@khalidmallhi so the forest getting vaporized was also an effect?

@@BloopSuperJuice it didnt get vapozed it just glowed because of the rock for a second

@@khalidmallhi proof?

I think bro just skimmed through Hunter x Hunter and just talked about the most popular statements. I stopped listening when he said Chimera Ant Arc Gon was only as strong as Low Level Phantom Troupe members💀

@@raph1005for real. Granted, chimera ant gon (after training with biscuit) would still probably not beat majority of the phantom troupe. But that speaks about how freaking strong the phantom troupe is. That gon would beat yuuji.

Dude seriously needs to rewatch/reread Hunter x Hunter. Also just can’t wrap my head around how he thinks Yuji is island level meanwhile Gojo, the second strongest character in the verse, destroyed only a city block with his most powerful technique. His scalings just make no sense.

@@jmoomoomoo he doesn't think yuji is island level. those were just the highballs, he accounted for the fight without highballs as well

@@jmoomoomoopeople overhyping domains too much. not only is their entire argument based on one guys domain, but its based on its name and assumes that an entire mountain was actually created.

Incorrect

@@BrokenRoninI like rather then actually debunking what he said you just say incorrect… 💀💀

It's city block?

@@jjk4002 doubt, it burned down some trees and the flames went up pretty high, but a skyscraper can fit all of that area. City block was more so his absolute mode with some town level high end attacks. Only the special grade curses start to show casual city block feats, with even maximum techniques being town-city like the meteor. The domain expansions creating meta-physical spaces the size of mountains and islands are far too inconsistent. Even if they are taken seriously, the output they can dish out without domains are not that level and cant be simply scaled to it. Perhaps the entirety of they CE= those ranges but their stats/output are far below that level.

@@Handsomeguy-kj2jg it also vaporised the rock below, not just the trees

2 things wrong with this, firstly it's highly implied that Maki did dodge the lightning bolt rather than fully on tanking it as at that point 15 finger Sukuna wasn't having his ce output nerfed, a shot like that would've at least damaged Maki if it were to hit, next Hakari did dodge the lightning as it was literally point blank from his face and he moved his head out of the way, mach 5 is major downplay.

@@itapproaches3484 no, Maki didn't dodge it. There's new panels that were added to that chapter: we actually get to see the attack as it's hitting her and she's just standing there bracing herself. I don't know if many people saw, but it was added with the new volume release of the chapter 213.

Checked ch 213 to 215 and the lightning did jack sh!t on maki, to the point that the lightning strike might as well didn't happen at all

I would like to add on the fact that a far weaker casual Naoya was able to blitz both Yuji and Choso. The former being to react to Piercing Blood which should be faster than sound. This also doesn’t make sense if you upscale. 15 Meguna while temporarily nerfed was able to fight off both Yuji and Maki, he shown more than capable of landing blows on Maki despite her slight speed boost and prediction allowing to quite literally clown on Naoya at Mach 3, these feats were calc to be from Mach 4 to 6. Sukuna was her superior throughout that entire fight so logically he should scale above even Mach 6 and so should his stronger versions like 19 Finger Meguna and Heian Sukuna. Heian Sukuna specifically because his body is most definitely far far superior than Megumi’s and is literally made for Sorcerery. Even if you use the Mach 3 scaling, you still end up with double digit Mach numbers, so for the higher end so the verse caping at Mach 5 is just headcannon.

the reason they're able to dodge that is because it's a fucking battle shonen, the authors are not sitting there carefully calculated these feats

dude Gojo can erase matter i think that would probably make him mountain level

In chapter 221 when gojo git unsealed he created a small earthquake which was calc to large island to small country >meruem mountain lvl scaling

so? neither is gon

@@SireshReddy-cb4vo Please learn how to read. I shouldn't have to explain why you interpreting what happened when he got unsealed as him having that level energies is fucking stupid.

@@Saucenoat You say that like it equates to being mountain level. it doesn't, not even close. Overthrowing a country just means being able to defeat it's military lmao. It doesn't mean you output enough energy to destroy a mountain.

Man, I feel like I’m taking crazy pills. Gon is clear. The way he says that Yuji is mountain to island level because he can damage Hanami is just so poorly thought out. It would make sense if Yuji could one shot Hanami, but he doesn’t. He simply causes some damage. If he can punch Hanami several dozen times and Hanami survives, then how in the world does that mean he has the power to destroy a mountain lmfao.

@@jmoomoomoo are you a ducking anime-only

yuji destroyes gon, it isn't even close, HXH meatriders should chill out

@@yesyouareright9800 Gon is more powerful than meruem, who’s been calced to produce more energy than an average nuke. What are you on??

@@atherapists3331 i’ve read the whole thing. Yuji has no additional feats after Shibuya that would change my mind that he’s not mountain/island level. I know he’s gotten stronger, but he’s literally only taken Ls other than Higaruma and helicopter head. Him surviving a 10% power slash from 15 finger Sukuna isn’t at all convincing.

the environment in most domains does nothing and contributes nothing to the domain but it can still be interacted with. we know this cuz gojo sent sukuna flying through malevolent shrine’s shrine

Megumi said imagining creating and bringing a barrier into reality was a hard thing to do, so he used a inside court to use that as a barrier to use his domain expansion so I can assume that domains also have to go through that process of imagining, creating and bringing into reality, but because it's his own cursed technique it's easier

@@steem6279 yeah but when the domain is dismissed, the matter goes away. The difference from mai's technique is that she literally creates matter from nothing. when her technique ends, the matter remains. spoilers below I'm very curious as to what kind of a creature Mai would have turned into if Maki had been the one to go. Just as Mai held Maki back from being a beast of physical prowess, Maki would've also been holding Mai back from being some kind of walking arsenal. The primary drawback to her technique, it's massive consumption of cursed energy, would most likely have been lifted so she could just summon artillery cannons and such at will. I imagine she would have easily classified as special grade.

@@Mepharias most material made by cursed energy automatically dispels unless it’s a part of the technique. Hakari can even use props of his domain to attack ppl outside of it as well

I want to say that it is power, or at least converted to it since Gojo compares it to Electricity. Also to clarify Yuta’s situation, the reason he doesn’t hit harder than people with less CE is because while he has the highest CE reserves, other characters like Ryu have a high CE output

@@Noah-je2xj Yeah I’m not saying it’s impossible, I just don’t think there is enough evidence to use it until further proof. And is output the same as buffing your base stats with CE? Ishigori couldn’t tank 15 finger Sukuna slashes. I think output is only referring to when they shoot it as beams

what do you have to say about a slower Maki seeing a bullet and then catching it from close range? Showing reaction and physical speed

@@BrokenRonin like my first reply to my comment she can see the trigger same thing what i am saying is people has to stop taking random cool moments of the show and think like ''oh this is legit , this is math'' no , writers put that bcs its cool gege himself makes fun of black flash amps and other things as well , if you wanna defend and argumant you have to take into account ''how did a better stronger faster maki get beaten by a guy moves at mach 3 speeds'' as a science major most of the power scaling in anime seems very lack lustered to me

@@BrokenRonin if you want to take speed and reaction speed in the same way than any character that moves massively faster than light should theoraticly unbeatble and can win every chalenge they face easly there is no reason to complicate things gege literraly give us a certain number and unit so people stop saying gojo is boundless speed , maki is light speed

​​@@BrokenRoninare you slow do you even watch Hunter x Hunter or jjk cuz you did you would know for a fact that gon would easily kill yuji even without his adult form it still wouldn't make a fucking difference this is why I say power scale and doesn't make sense it's inevitable when you know everything about both shows stop down playing Hunter's not weak jjk is not weak I'm so sick of this shit power scaling is useless

​@@BrokenRoninthe reason why she has to do that is because she couldn't dodge that attack

The reason maki catch that bullet is because she couldn't dodge them so.

There are about two ways to catch a bullet: seeing a bullet flying through the air and grabbing it, or seeing a person about to fire a gun at you and timing it right to catch the bullet and if you know what to look for, would require that much less reaction time to catch. The latter would more than likely definitely not mean you have supersonic reaction OR movement speeds. I especially think that the latter method is something that virtually no power scalers take into account EVER.

By that logic superman at 7 would lose to batman if batman was 13. What even is this take?😂😂

This is like putting Anos Voldigoad who is a month old against the gods of his world. (Anos won)

It's anime. 12 year olds fight and beat adults all the time let alone teenagers

Gon is 14 by the end of the show, close to 15 or 15 in the Manga.

You must think that because Dragonball characters don't destroy the world when they fight they aren't planetary, please understand the basics of scaling lmao

@@BrokenRoninCells solar kamehameha can destroy the solar system. Gohan matched it with his own kamehameha. Two solar system destroying forces colliding should have done a bit more than it did. Half of the planet should have been wiped out at least. Namek getting destroyed was the result of characters of super sayian 1 and full power freeza fighting. Both gohan and cell far surpass goku and freeza.(at the time)

@@BrokenRonin dragon ball characters are most definitely planetary. But when powerscaling taking into consideration inconsistencies and plot holes is key. You cant make narratives that fit your own views based off of objective flaws. If someone says that natsu is solar system level without taking into account that a lot of natsu feats are plot armour and are not indicative of his actual strength during normal lower scale fights. Same with dragon ball. Rossi could blow up the moon in dragon ball. Buu should be able to that with 0.05(Its a random percentage dont @ me) percent of his strength. How much is he holding back?

If a character is strong enough to destroy the area with pressure alone then the series should show it. Bleach has the most well calculated scaling I've ever seen and whenever a character isn't able to do what they should have done then an explanation baked into the lore and world building which is intrinsically linked to the power system in that series.

@@BrokenRonin they litterly does????

braindead scaling mach 3 scaling for jjk is bs a tired sukuna dodged kashimos ct which uses emw which is a 2.5 - 5x light speed feat while being horribly injured and tired and went on to one shot kashimo maki dodged a bullet in the good will arc and before you saymai uses rubber bullets why tf would she do that ? she cant fight properly since she has extremely low ce so using rubber bullets would be like suicide against curses since a curse is often way above its thought to be thats how haibara died and sorcerers are often sent on missions beyond their power take the first mission of jjk 0 maki and yuta both almost died but yuta was busted so they survived jjk is way above mach 3 speeds

aim dodge/outlier keep coping@@khalidmallhi

@@Tupadre97 No counter ?

True

how is Gon hypersonic and why is Yuji subsonic?

@@doggerlanderi would say he’s supersonic-hypersonic due to him reacting to piercing blood and him being able to contend with makis speed who could react to someone who was mach 3, Narratively u can’t use hakari reacting to kashimo lighting as a feat that can be applied to maki who obviously scales to yuji in speed due to clear to day statements that hakari is above maki

He’s not a kid tho

so in return someone like yuji could maybe destroy a building or two with his punches and can maybe run like 100mph tops.

someone like spiderman would make quick work or yuji

ap does not equal range

@@gibby9876 i can forgive downplaying yuji to building level but giving him 100mph as his max speed is just downright disingenous

15 finger sukuna could [while supressing himself] very easily wipe a city off the face of the earth . each finger represents an exponential increase so 20 finger sukuna should be tens if not hundreds of times stronger than 15.f sukuna. yet you say that gojo is at best city level . this comment is honestly hilarious

This same guy also made a video on why Sukuna solos the 1-8 tailed beasts

Verse is weak af outside of meruem lol

@@dc7981jjk is the homeland we oc verses dawg netero is clapping every single one

(For the initial piercing blood blast)

yeah gojo's strongest attack is city level at max and this mf wants me to believe that yuji has mountain level AP

any mid tier in jjk is easily mountain lvl

​@@SkeetWeet4368🤡

​@@SkeetWeet4368Moutain level Panda 💀

@@jackaboynaylor9273 what feats does panda have to scale him this high

@@SkeetWeet4368 None 💀

mureum going all out is at best mountain level

@@SkeetWeet4368 yeah I know, as I said, doesn't change the match up here, just pointing it out.

This is so stupid lmao.

We have found it, the quintessential non argument.

@@BrokenRonin There are plenty of arguments, you just ignore them all.

@@BrokenRonin Yeaaahh, but to be fair, you did pretty badly. I mean, the 'Netero is just faster than sound at his Peak'-Misunderstanding? Bro, i thought no powerscaler still believed that?? The biggest youtubers surely dont anymore

@@nenmaster5218 Instead of assuming you're dumb I'm gonna assume your listening skills are subpar because at 13:25 I LITERALLY say that I am going to be providing a "more consistent argument for Gon's speed" In case you still don't know what that means... the Netero speed of sound scaling is a POTENTIAL lowball which I myself don't think is entirely in line with the character. Listen properly before spouting about shit you're clearly not informed enough to speak on

@@babulbi Provide them then

yeah bro doesn't have a clue wtf he's talking about 😂

@@Tupadre97 like there’s no way bro watched the troupe struggle with the same fodder ants that gon and killua were one shotting while holding back😭😭and lets not even get into god speed and gon pre nen loss that woulda one shot morel

@@vont8364 gon literally one shot a dude who's physically as strong as kite who's literally stronger than every troupe member besides chrollo and maybe hisoka. bro is literally on crack aint no way 😂.

@@Tupadre97 sometimes i really question if these niggas even be really comprehending the stories they’re reading fr😂

​@@vont8364To be fair, that Gon couldn't actually land that Morel killing rock on Yuji unless he also just stands there. It's not a quick technique (at that stage). Gon could probably mess him up with (powers weren't equalized so these are invisible to Yuji) paper and scizors though. Gives him actual range and an extention on his close range designed to slice. That again, the verses powers weren't equalized, so these are invisible attacks that will work at least once.

I didn't do adult gon since I felt like my comment was already long enough

Gon isn't on Killua's level bruh

they definetly are very close speed wise in the beginning of chimera ant right after greed island@@AndrewManook

Also in the fight with uvo and the ten shadows he literally created a giant hole in the ground that looked like an explosion while holding back and gon scales up to that in the chimera ant arc let’s see yuji create a hole that big while holding back acting like just because he can damage hanami that means he’s all the sudden able to destroy city blocks like what gojo can barley do that with purple but apparently yuji can do that casually when he is high balled like get yuji passed leorio before we even talk about gon lol

Sukuna: strong cleave nigga Mer/uem

Actually meruem is way stronger than sukuna

Jujutsufolk leaking in

​@@ZokalexEn and rage blast 💀 No diff.

Sukuna does the jogo treatment not even a fair fight.

hell nah yuji slams

@@quintariusbrewer9108 havent watched the vid but i agree

​@@quintariusbrewer9108I'd like to see multi-city block Yuji try to beat my guy in a game of rock-paper-scissors 💀

​@@jackaboynaylor9273Black flash Yuji versus full power Jajanken is probably pretty close

did bro even watch yuji slams

But sukuna blitzed ryu who's relative in stats to hakaris lightning bolt feat which makes his movement speed mhs+

​@@SireshReddy-cb4voYou can't prove Hakari moved relative to the bolt when we only saw movement from him after the bolt disappeared.

definitely

Scissors victim.

I think Yuji vs Akaza is closer than you'd think

@@rustedcrabtm6438divergent fist clashing with a shockwave punch would be so heat 🔥

average ds characters are definitely way faster than average jjkd characters, although they probably have worse AP, so idk

@@elotl12-y1e I don't think the speed scaling is really that far apart between verses, but JJK's AP is so comically higher it wouldn't matter

@@Noah-je2xjI think most kny characters are hypersonic or smth

I do not agree considering the thinks Yuji tanked and it depends on if sukuna is inside of him or not.

Yuji's dealt with range before. Charging objects with ce and throwing them is simple but effective, he can throw rocks harder than 50 cal bullets since even haba(propeller head) tanked a 50 cal. That would hurt base gon.

​@log5531 jjk durability is lowkey insane. But even without cursed energy, yuji can throw a rock with more AP than Gon's paper.

nope, toji tanks and one shots gon

​@@yesyouareright9800Wall level 💀

a lot of power scalers like him prefer highball one feat wank to what is consistent and fitting with the narrative unfortunately

@@rylace I call it the "saint's Saya syndrome". It's when the characters say that his attack has a power relative to the big bang, and them proceeds to throw a regular punch that cracks some walls

Both would be quite entertaining tbh. I think they're close enough to debate.

Gojo vs Netero would be an interesting one too

which meruem? the broken one or the one that fought netero

Meruem would get negative-diffed, unless you're capping out Sukuna to 15F in Yuji's body. His Domain Expansion would probably be enough to drop Meruem. Malevolent Shrine could machine-gun slashes on him until he dies, which Dismantle actively scales to break the object it targets, based on the amount of CE necessary. Meruem's mind wouldn't even be a factor, since the only way to beat Malevolent Shrine is to fortify yourself. Even with Nen, that isn't enough, as even Gojo was getting broken down. If it comes down to peak versus peak, Meruem is done for, since we get a remix of Go/jo where there is no way for Meruem to Domain Clash as Nen is adapted to by Mahoraga. Heian Sukuna is apparently lightspeed, since he could press a character who controls all EM Phenomena, including light, killing him.

Meruem survived being at the epicenter of a nuclear bomb. Post-rose meruem has an even higher level of durability. Aside from the new reality destroying slashes, sukuna isn't hurting meruem

“And why should the average CE output that coats the body of Mechamaru be comparable to his 'ULTIMATE' cannon?” It does to some degree. The Ultimate Cannon is really one step up from the Finger Bearers’ just flinging cursed energy, and is most likely only possible due to how the puppet is built rather than a direct application of his technique, meaning that the same amount of energy could be hypothetically be use for the defensive purposes too. And Panda’s gorilla quite literally two tapped my guy, even if his strikes had some dura negging properties, they’re aren’t really immediate game enders against opponents relative him, at least not to the same extent as with Mechamaru. “And are we just going to ignore Panda's dura neg drumming beat he used and just say Todo scales above all the damage he did to Mechman?” Definitely not but Todo should scale above Panda nonetheless. Panda puts Todo above himself, and while he was wrong about Mechamaru’s his grade placement, he wasn’t about the fact that he was capable of beating Mechamaru. “And it shouldn't mean much for Yuji to punch harder than Todo with pure innate strength because while Todo is buff, he isn't a natural superhuman like Maki.” Very true. I’m not exactly sure why he brought it up myself “That attack should scale far above most of the Sorcerers including Panda, hence why it crippled his main core and switched to Gorilla mode even when he was specifically going to defend himself to eat the explosion for Nobara.” Except he did eat said explosion. You seem to be exaggerating how much damage that blast did to the panda core, the wording was that it was “exhausted” not crippled, this makes more sense since when he switched back all we see is a shallow burn mark across his cheek and ears. It’s more likely that he running low on that core’s CE and had to switch and end the fight fast. It also isn’t all that impressive. Overtime Nanami was capable causing an earthquake calculated to between Multi-City Block and Small Town Level+. And Yuji by the time of Shibuya scales roughly on par with him, Todo in turns scales relatively bellow this Yuji meaning that this basically confirms that he’s above Goodwill Mechamaru. (There’s also the Mahito and Mode: Absolute scale but I feel like that’s just overkill at that point)

Yeah they wanked the feat, it was like at mach 4-7

That's comparing a normal human to a human with nen. It's not a hard unavoidable rule, cursed energy protects the body just like Nen so it won't work on it like it does a normal human

@@klasse4311 no it isnt it’s comparing people w no nen to ones w nen just like curse energy

@@princecheck11 There's no other power system in hxh to make this logic work. Nen is deadly to people bevause they don't have the aura to strengthen their bodies for protections. Cursed Energy STRENGHTENS the body for protections just like Nen, so unlike the normal humans in HxH who have no defense sorcerers won't have the lack of defense problem. It's not no nen vs nen, it's normal human vs nen user in the show and that's where you got confused. Also, Uvo when wrapped around Kurapikas chains was in a state of complete Zetsu (no nen at all) and didn't even come anywhere close to dying when Kurapika attacked his body with multiple enhanced punches. Why? Because Uvo had a physical body so strong its defense could still defend him against Nen even when he didn't have Nen himself

@@klasse4311 Dumb fuck thats UVO ! & Even his regular strength couldnt break the nen so wtf did u even bring that up for? Curse Energy & Nen are the same if you get with w either technique without having the technique yourself you fucking get obliterated which is what i said

all those (tsunade or sakura) two can do is slam the ground and do maybe a truck size of damage to the ground.

​@@za420ongThey also have a lot of hax specific to their verse that might not apply in a crossover versus

Yuji wins by having longer arms