Black Fleet Crisis would have made a good Trilogy too. The Han Solo origin series too. When I hear they were doing Solo, I hoped so hard they were gonna use those books. They would have gotten all their cameos, their brave and strong women, their feel-good story of freeing slaves and defeating bullys... it had it all. And instead we got Han doing every noteworthy thing that defines his charachter on a single 3 day mission. 😂
Would have also given the Empire some humanization implying that Palpatine brought order to have a chance of fending off the Vong. Being Emperor was just a bonus.
@orrenlilly5809 , the thrawn trilogy should have been the sequel, setting up the Vong as the bad for the next 3-9 movies, depending on how much quality you can siphon from the books. They got a bit convoluted after I forgot how many books.
I thought to myself while watching this, why are we not getting this instead of crap like the acolyte, the whole Yuuzhan Vong arc, I'm sure if you do it right, you just print money. Even I would subscribe to disney just for this, and usually I wouldnt touch their streaming service even if it was free.
Imagine if Palpatine HAD told the senate and citizens of the Republic about the Vong. The Rebel alliance never would have gained traction because the people would be focused on how the Empire is protecting them rather than paying attention to civil rights abuses here and there.
@@durere I imagine the Vong as a species had bumped shoulders with the Imperium of man, or maybe the Tyranids, lost on a conflict, then retreated to some undiscovered galaxy far far away, being the SW galaxy.
There's a wealth of written media about the Star wars universe that was done long before Disney ever got their hands on that intellectual property. All Disney had to do was adapt a couple of those storylines and series into movies. It would not have been hard to make great stories out of a couple of those book series, and we would have had something pretty awesome to watch.
I was just thinking how if Disney decided to restart Star Wars and accept the Fd up. They could do a new trilogy set 500 years into the future where the galaxy is divided but at peace and Grogu is head master of the Jedi council and the whole series is surviving the Vong while they try to unite the galaxy to fight back.
The Vong were so influencial that even Sith used embrace of pain and all lightsaber hilts of one sith(other than Darth Wredd)were made of yoric coral there was a vong Darth maul fought on a mission on a prison ship
The Vong feel almost like a 40k race instead of something from star wars. Id love to see them in a movie but Disney/Lucasfilms is filled with morons and we will probably never see it.
So it was a breath of fresh air since everything before this was "oh no, the Imperial Remnant has a new superweapon!" This really shook things up and made it awesome. The series afterward were a big step up in quality too. What if we had a Vong Wars Tv series, with a couple big movies mixed in, and then a trilogy for Darth Caedus? So much cool stuff they tossed on the floor so they could give us The Acolyte.
Watch Stargate Atlantis. The Wraith are basically the Vong. And they aren't a particularly interesting 'bad guy'. A movie with Vong - or a trilogy with Vong - wouldn't work unless you focus on the perspective of a Vong 'hero' (traitor to his people) to give more exposure to the Vongs side - which audiences won't appreciate. It's all about the humans - our - perspective in these kinds of movies.
@@anonamatronThe Acolyte is an entirely new era. It does not replace the Yuuzhan Vong or any other aspect of Star Wars lore (no more than the way Leia mentions remembering her mother who died giving birth to her)
Sidious knew about them. Kinman Doriana tells Thrawn that they had reports of “shadowy figures on the edge of the galaxy using biotechnology of the likes we’ve never encountered”. And Thrawn told him that the Chiss already had a few encounters with the Yuuzhan Vong. But I don’t buy into the theory going around the EU fan base that Sidious created the Galactic Empire to combat ONLY the Yuuzhan Vong.
@@Grand_Master_Skywalker Yeah, that part is absurd. Palpatine wanted the Empire for the Empire's sake; that said a lot of things like the Death Star project were definitely conceived to counter the Vong.
Palpatine tried to unite the galaxy before the coming of the greater evil that is the Yuuzhan Vong but the Jedi ruined it and billions died as a result.
@@GodOfWar109who cares what Disney says. The books were wrote before they took over. Let’s erase history and pretend it never happened. They tried 4 years ago but I still remember the old text books.
I second this theory I think all Jedi light and dark when reaching a certain level get a premonition or foresight and I believe palpatine did as well. Uniting the galaxy under 1 super power galatic empire . Literally equipping Star destroyers with super weapons to combat the vong. But if this would have happened palpatine would have became a God lol
How would that make a good story? I read that book. It wasn’t great. That’s just me though. Ok Just curious why you think that book would make a good movie?
@@jimmyramos1989, Because fans loved Maul, and it was a great story, perfectly suited for film. Not overly complicated, not overly long, but wildly entertaining, with the prison fights, and the conspiracies. It would also give them another way to introduce the Vong. ‘Lockdown’ has no unnecessary romance, it just gets right into it. It’s a third perspective into that era of the Sith, before they let themselves become exposed.
@@thanewage403Lockdown is a good splatter novel, but it is not what I look for in Star Wars. A fun piece of literature, sure, but by no means would I ever suggest it should guide any canon material. Maybe a series of short films would be apt for an adaptation, but imo it shouldnt have any more than that. Gore and gratuitous violence is cool for a one off thing, but that isnt the essence of star wars to me. Warhammer 40k is a better place to explore that trajectory of storytelling
Before the travesty that was episodes 7-9, I would have hoped that the next trilogy would be about these creepy guys. Star wars vs. H.g.giger would have been bad ass.
I just have to roll my eyes at "300 trillion dead". It just sounds like someone trying to make his story sound dark and epic without having any concept of scale or numbers.
Feels totally out of place in Star Wars. Everyone rightfully shaming Disney for ruining Star Wars, but a lot of the EU is bad Star Wars, too. This is clearly WH40K lore crammed into the wrong franchise. 😅
@@KamalaKackles Even wiping out 100 solar systems wouldn't add up to more than a couple trillion. Let's be as generous with the numbers as possible. There are 8 billion people living on Earth. A planet twice as large could hold maybe 20 billion. Let's assume there are 5 planets twice as large as Earth in every known system (There aren't). Even with numbers so improbably large that still wouldn't amount to much more than 10 trillion. You'd need thousands of known systems to have a population close to reaching hundreds of trillions. Are there even 100 named systems in Star Wars canon? Planets? There is no conceivable way 300 trillion people could be properly governed by a singular unified government. Any centralized organization would be impossible. The entire senate chamber shown in the movies couldn't represent even 1% of the galaxy's population. Wiki states there were 700 million clone troopers created. For comparison, 120 million people fought in WW2. On one planet. All the deaths in the Clone Wars combined wouldn't amount to more than a speck of dust in a universe that large. Can it even be called a war when only an imperceptibly small portion of the galaxy even notices it happening? One problem that humans have is that we suck at comprehending large numbers. Trying to fit trillions of people into what we know about Star Wars completely breaks the logic of that universe. I know George Lucas wasn't thinking of a universe at that scale when he was writing his script. The only way that writer could have come up with 300 trillion dead was that he thought, "We need a really big number to make these bad guys look really bad." He had no idea what a trillion looks like. It makes his worldbuilding look amateurish and stupid. Like the other guy said, that's the sort of ridiculousness that belongs in Warhammer. And thankfully it's not canon.
@@KamalaKackles Even wiping out 100 solar systems wouldn't add up to more than a couple trillion. Let's be as generous with the numbers as possible. There are 8 billion people living on Earth. A planet twice as large could hold maybe 20 billion. Let's assume there are 5 planets twice as large as Earth in every known system (There aren't). Even with numbers so improbably large that still wouldn't amount to much more than 10 trillion. You'd need thousands of known systems to have a population close to reaching hundreds of trillions. Are there even 100 named systems in Star Wars canon? Planets? There is no conceivable way 300 trillion people could be governed by a singular unified government. The size of the senate shown in the movies couldn't represent more than a fraction of the galaxy's population. Wiki states there were 700 million clone troopers created. For comparison, 120 million people fought in WW2. On one planet. All the deaths in the Clone Wars combined wouldn't amount to more than a speck of dust in a universe that large. Can it even be called a real war when such an imperceptibly small portion of the galaxy even notices it happening? One problem that humans have is that we're horrible at comprehending large numbers. Trying to fit trillions of people into what we know about Star Wars completely breaks the logic of that universe. I know George Lucas wasn't thinking of a universe at that scale when he was writing his script. The only way that writer could have come up with 300 trillion dead was that he thought, "We need a really big number to make these bad guys look really bad." He had no idea what a trillion looks like. It makes his worldbuilding look amateurish and stupid. Like the other guy said, that stuff belongs in WH40K. And thankfully it's not canon.
@@DontMessWithCaesar “Theres no concievable way 300 trillion could be governed by a singular unified government” Wtf? the empire republic had millions of planets it controlled were either directly or not directly control which can numbered in hundred trillions of if! And this is why the empire was soo decentralised they cannot go fully lile centralized territory like a roman or germany did, And decentralized obviously worked
Why oh why didn't Disney turn to the literature to make their movies. This conflict or the Black Fleet Crisis would have made siiiiiiick movies if done properly. And they could have done a whole Han Solo trilogy if they went by the origin story books. They would have gotten their cameos and everything.
Because Kathleen Kennedy is an asshole. And also she sucks. She chose this path back in 2012 when she put this all into “Legends”, when there used to only be one timeline.
Loved the new jedi order books series…Disney had unreal story material for movies that would have brought something no one has ever seen..but idiots think they knew better
Lost opportunity.... The Jedi Order led by Luke Skywalker battle Force resistant alien threat from another Galaxy... Survivors of the Empire and the Alliance fighting the common enemy .
Disney will fuck it up like so much of the other story elements they’ve completely screwed. Stick to the the NJO novel series and the comics that involves them and it’s better that way. Disney will never be able to bring in EU elements (in a fitting way) in to the complete shit storm they’ve made of Star Wars. Disneys Star Wars isn’t Star Wars.
I think the sequel trilogy should have been the original Thrawn Trilogy with heir to the empire. And after that, the Yuzhaan Vong would make for good material for movies and shows.
I would have the sequel trilogy on the Dark Empire story line. I would have loved if the Thrawn trilogy on big screen the yuzang vong be next I like to see a koftor trilogy about Darth Revan.
Excelente lore, pero ya estoy odiando estos videos en donde pones a leer a una IA un texto que tiene varios párrafos y frases repetidas, acompañadas de imágenes estáticas random.
The Yuuzhan Vong aren't Star Wars. Star Wars has a certain style, asthenic, call it what you will. The crappy Yuuzhan Vong belong in crappy 90' Star Trek or similar TV shows. They don't belong in the Star Wars universe any more than Disney do.
I know what you mean. They look like scary monsters and that’s not really a Star Wars theme. I’ve always thought what you wrote, but never seen it said by anyone. You’re right. They just don’t fit in the Star Wars style.
I saw the Vong as op SW Orcs and nothing has dissuaded of that notion in the decades since. I honestly hated the whole arc with a passion and hope Disney never, ever gets any ideas about incorporating them into the new canon.
IF disney actually cared about Star Wars they would drop the politics end wokeness an have looked into making a series about this and actual lore or even better yet movie series about the actual Old Republic
Give me a break...who came up with these ridiculous creatures? Someone spent way too much time developing these things that absolutely do not matter... And yet you have spent an hour talking about them.
They need to make The Yuuzhan Vong War Animated Series as part of the Legends Brand Universe and separate from Dave Filoni Disney Canon Elseworld trash.
Even if you dislike NJO, you also missed the dark nest crisis, legacy of the force and fate of the jedi series, seems an awful lot to miss for no reason
@@thejesterofwoe7778 As someone who loves the NJO…I can understand. The series was too dark for too long before things finally turned in our heroes favor. Also ignore that other commenter. Legacy of the Force is the absolute worst Star Wars story of all time. It was so bad that the authors tried to fix it with Fate of the Jedi. It did not help.
Agreed. Disney was not the first to completely not understand what Star Wars is about. Most authors just crammed their pet project story into the Star Wars lore. I remember "Truce at Bakura". Could have made a decent standalone sci-fi story. God awful plot for Star Wars.
