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Комментарии : 103   
@whalumtrucking
@whalumtrucking 2 года назад
Chris, you guys did a fantastic job with the ECU flash. The company that flashed it, and dyno tuned it did not know what they were doing. It’s absolutely like night and day. Thanks again!
@JPTulo
@JPTulo 10 месяцев назад
Is this your bike?
@adowdell
@adowdell Год назад
Great job talking real world info. Many channels and spin doctors have an agenda. Great job highlighting all the differences before after, temperature/ air density discussion, quality versus R&D, price versus performance. Great job! Love what you do.
@the900bot
@the900bot 2 года назад
Love to see another z900 on the channel! I been pondering bringing mine in but I’m in stl so that’s quite the trek lol
@Popsm0ke
@Popsm0ke 2 года назад
Alright been waiting on a new video. Thanks for posting
@StayFreshAF
@StayFreshAF 2 года назад
Love the vids!!! Keep up the motivation!! Can we see some juicy GSXR 1k 17 and up on the dyno 🙋🏾. I know theirs plenty of vids already in the spank bank, but i wanna see some more 😋
@avrc9285
@avrc9285 2 года назад
thats a very good example of choices and preference - hope the guy enjoys his ride, no wrong decision there either way you decide to go. unfortunately also no gains in performance but certainly gains in appearance (that counts too)
@CJAY7788
@CJAY7788 2 года назад
Soon I hope to be blessed with a ecu flash and Brock’s pipe from Moore 🙏🏾😊
@powamoto
@powamoto 2 года назад
Z900 so Smoove 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💪 great vid guys
@powamoto
@powamoto 2 года назад
Chris, you know me I'm a big Z Fan, so I brought all these thumbs ups for ya fam 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍💪🇺🇸
@MomentumChaser0331
@MomentumChaser0331 Год назад
Bike Sounds Great and Love that Skull with the Flag on it
@ANSWERTHECALLOFJESUSCHRIST
@ANSWERTHECALLOFJESUSCHRIST 2 года назад
This video was what is called in the culinary community a slow roast! 😅
@terrytaylor424
@terrytaylor424 2 года назад
Sounds awesome
@daviddiodato5550
@daviddiodato5550 2 года назад
Great video! One of the best out there. Learned alot. I had planned on getting a z900 this spring but went way off track and got a zx14r. Guess you get what you pay for. When I was shopping for the 900, I never really saw a system that looked great. Looks like a great fun bike! I may get one as a second bike.
@daviddiodato5550
@daviddiodato5550 2 года назад
I would be curious about the weight reduction from the stock exhaust.
@thomaschandler4831
@thomaschandler4831 Год назад
ZX 14 R is top G !!!! 🏆👍👍😁 if that bike had wings it would FKG fly high !!!
@hollowsesh90
@hollowsesh90 2 года назад
That 900 sounds so similar to my old zx12r at startup and idle, does sound like its not as big of a engine throughout the rest of the rev range but geeze the sound is glorious!
@koschar185
@koschar185 2 года назад
i use black widow headers too on my Tracer 900 with custom end pipe and works fine i got 116hp on that.
@-22766
@-22766 2 года назад
like button smashed 👊
@Frank-the-Tank-13
@Frank-the-Tank-13 2 года назад
Missed ya!!!
@CGgamer568
@CGgamer568 2 года назад
I really like this 2022 HAYABUSA And the contest of the your RU-vid channel is very nice the content wont get any other RU-vid channels i am really a greate lover of the 2022 hayabusha it is my bream bike.
@johnfryman4428
@johnfryman4428 2 года назад
Full Headers are the Best !
@JPTulo
@JPTulo 10 месяцев назад
Looks like the customer forgot to install the tail light grommet when he put the aftermarket light in. You can see it wobbling in the tail housing. That would drive me nuts. Great video as always!
@motomaddox
@motomaddox Год назад
Just replaced my factory system with a combo Black Widow UK header kit + MIVV silencer. The new setup is 15 lbs lighter, looks better, and sounds great. Definitely worth swapping out for what I was going for.
@dw0095
@dw0095 Год назад
Is the BW header a 4-1 pipe design or a 4-2-1? The ebay listing says 4-1 but it looks like a 4-2-1
@motomaddox
@motomaddox Год назад
@@dw0095 4-2-1. It may have recently changed from 4-1, as that's what was listed when I ordered it, but it is 4-2-1.
@bobbyblueace
@bobbyblueace 2 года назад
Thanks so much! You saved me £250. Currently running stock header, de-cat pipe and Scorpion slip on so very similar to this bike pre Black Widow. Always thought I might be losing out compared to an aftermarket header with 38mm primaries instead of the 35mm of stock. Obviously not. Kawasaki knows how to design an exhaust. My bike made 126 without a flash so similar to your numbers. Great work. Love your channel. 😄
@skywalker7517
@skywalker7517 2 года назад
I watched brocks Davidson a couple of months back do his magic on a z900 with a full system he was experimenting, I think it made decent hp, like 128-129 but that full system would cost 2000$, that is worth out trying if you are looking for midrange and power up top,he is done a lot of R&D on his system I guess
@bobbyblueace
@bobbyblueace 2 года назад
@@skywalker7517 Love my Z900 but got to remember it's a budget bike, a lot of bang for the buck. So for me, the tuning needs to follow the same philosophy. When it gets to the point of spending that much on an exhaust your'e already half way to trading up to a faster bike.
@moustachio334
@moustachio334 2 года назад
Always build for quality so you only need to build it once
@falcn12
@falcn12 Год назад
​@@bobbyblueaceI'd rather pay for new suspension then waste 2k on a few HP.
@freddiewilson2764
@freddiewilson2764 2 года назад
Nice, but I'm ready to see some track action lol!!!!
@satyajitroy726
@satyajitroy726 2 года назад
Nice shoes 🤠
@NOONE-hp8bw
@NOONE-hp8bw 2 года назад
Black widow is mainly for looks and they do last, the pipe is a little bit wider but that's about it
@MrSamgoingsiii
@MrSamgoingsiii 2 года назад
Just got my Aprilia on the road wish there was something y'all could do to it
@TheRealBhuado
@TheRealBhuado 2 года назад
to be honest, 1-2 hp difference is actually no difference at all. looks better than the oem for sure. also there is no cat so it definitely runs cooler, so thats a pro as well. i would say its worth it.
@stevekirk6399
@stevekirk6399 2 года назад
Black widow in the UK are basiclly a decat exhaust system. I had one on my xsr 700. posted off my ecu. the bhp went up only +3 the bike ran so much better, really smooth and sounded unbelievable exhaust and remap all for £500. great video.
@K-carbon
@K-carbon 2 года назад
The quality is quite poor on black widow products any of I've seen but I suppose you get what you pay for
@stevekirk6399
@stevekirk6399 2 года назад
@@K-carbon I haven't had any complaints, they fit perfect, welding is good. sound fantastic. I've fitted two my mate use them 100%
@K-carbon
@K-carbon 2 года назад
@@stevekirk6399 I assume you live in the USA as here in Ireland they rust pit conrode with the damp bad weather
@djmanchini
@djmanchini 2 года назад
Noiice, wish i could put my z900 on this dyno and let him do the tweaks....
@robzz9002
@robzz9002 2 года назад
@@K-carbon strange as my black widow headers on my Z900 have seen several UK winters. Road salts, rain, temperatures down to -12°C and even the odd flurry of snow and still look like new. If you’re going to ride a bike in crap weather, you need to protect it. Couple of coats of ACF50 a year and zero corrosion.
@Aussielife.
@Aussielife. Год назад
If I have a woolich ecu connection and software can I buy your flash and program it to my 2017 z900?, love your work. From Australia :)
@jimmyl1606
@jimmyl1606 2 года назад
Can you get a 2018+ Honda CB1000R Dyno tuned? I got my cb1000r ecu flashed by you but want to see a video.
@TEAMWRIGHTEOUS
@TEAMWRIGHTEOUS 2 года назад
So far, the only Black Widow pipes we've seen do good are on the 06+ 600/750... They made 120 and 138 respectively... The Busa duals lost 7hp. And here it looks like it's down in the midrange and good as stock up top. Great quality, just not making power anywhere else.
@clubstyleridahd4695
@clubstyleridahd4695 2 года назад
There's a video of a 2022 s1000r gaining a decent amount In the mid range with the black widow header. Stock ecu also.
@TEAMWRIGHTEOUS
@TEAMWRIGHTEOUS 2 года назад
@@clubstyleridahd4695 nice 💪
@adamautomotive
@adamautomotive 2 года назад
So would a matching akrapovic header have given an increase in hp compared to the standard headers
@daveyt4802
@daveyt4802 2 года назад
Waiting for a new GSXS flash to be done...
@MartinMcMartin
@MartinMcMartin 2 года назад
So it shows that while the factory headers might not have been too pretty, Kawasaki had the design on point.
@daWKin548
@daWKin548 2 года назад
Or that black widow are rubbish
@rcannon409
@rcannon409 2 года назад
It really doesn't. This shows that you get what you pay for with regards to exhausts.. Black Widow sells cheap exhaust systems. He would see a decent gain if he used a header from a performance company ,Akrapovic, for instance. 3x as much money.
@michaelbaker5327
@michaelbaker5327 2 года назад
I have a 2020 R1 what parts should I get best bang for my buck would you say?
@blackbutmild1
@blackbutmild1 2 года назад
Can you get a Z900 with a zx10r motor on it? Also, if you wanted to swap motors, will a zx10 motor fit?
@giolinhbenhai7981
@giolinhbenhai7981 2 года назад
Hello mafia , I just bought a 05 fz1 ...I wanted to do a ECU flash ....!!! What do you think ? And what I should do to gain some real pony . Thanks
@deez3814
@deez3814 2 года назад
Sweet ;)
@rconnel3
@rconnel3 2 года назад
Is it possible the exhaust is outflowing the intake at this point?
@yuliyansemerdzhiev8960
@yuliyansemerdzhiev8960 Год назад
Is there in stock headers catalyst like in zx6r ? I want to decat my zx6r and think about black widow headers ;/
@roblawson5525
@roblawson5525 2 года назад
The Black Widow's are gonna be a lot more than a couple of pounds lighter than stock, Akra say their headers alone are 10lbs lighter! The net performance gain is worth the swap given how close the graphs are.
@michaelcooper10
@michaelcooper10 2 года назад
Bad ass bike though. Thought it would have more power
@hoofington7866
@hoofington7866 2 года назад
I bet that bike would make 10 more HP if he ditches those amber reflectors on the front forks..... just saying if your in it for the looks on a header upgrade might as well
@johncostarella4259
@johncostarella4259 2 года назад
Have a brand new Z900 50th and I want it to scream…what do I need to have it perform like this?
@acealv8788
@acealv8788 Год назад
Can this header run wit sc project crt slip on ?
@dbtrackz33
@dbtrackz33 2 года назад
It takes a tool to get premium slip on like an Akrapovic and pair it with an EBay, bottom barrel header, AND waste money on tune into it again lmfao. If he changed the gearing to be more aggressive, that will also make small changes on the dyno, every operator also knows this.
@lilmr5boros1
@lilmr5boros1 2 года назад
I would say it’s worth it if the customer is happy no matter what …he got what he wanted a cleaner look , im sure it rides “better” but come one let’s be honest the bike looks better slow nobody can see it if you are going fast
@Goopie48
@Goopie48 2 года назад
Would a full system Black Widow be that bad for the Z900, compared to the stock system w/ cat? I'm tempted for the looks and sound. And I imagine at least with a Moore Mafia tune / ECU flash it will be a little bit better than stock, HP/torque-wise? I don't want to drop $2k on a full system exhaust for a $9k bike. And Black Widow looks better than Delkevic, though I don't know Delkevic's dyno #s.
@falcn12
@falcn12 Год назад
It's also lighter so if you keep the same power you get better hp/weight
@jonty4664
@jonty4664 2 года назад
👊🏻✊🏻
@bellydavezx10r48
@bellydavezx10r48 2 года назад
Depends on how much money he dished out his pockets, thinking he was gonna a gain. Long story short, as long as he's happy that's all that really matters. But it does suck to go full exhaust and loose HP. 😞
@j.w.presents9552
@j.w.presents9552 2 года назад
Agreed.
@moustachio334
@moustachio334 2 года назад
How bad does that exhaust have to be to lose horsepower with a catalytic converter
@moustachio334
@moustachio334 2 года назад
Without**
@thomaschandler4831
@thomaschandler4831 Год назад
Agreed … no way in hell I’d have it on my bike …. If I’m not moving up … I don’t want it … I want top performance not looks …. Man if they could get the Z900 to hit 150 HP that would be awesome
@michaelcooper10
@michaelcooper10 2 года назад
The dip is where you don't want it
@user-be3hi9ww1q
@user-be3hi9ww1q 5 месяцев назад
What's up brother? How much does it cost to flash my ecu on my z900
@TeamMooreMafia
@TeamMooreMafia 5 месяцев назад
All the info is here. Www.MooreMafia.com
@yusheelsukram7917
@yusheelsukram7917 2 года назад
Everytime i look at my GXR1000 K4 All i wish is to hv Moore Mafia dyno tune n flash it....as old as it is ..its helleva impressive with a full arata exhaust system 😎 #ZUK_NATION_STAND_UP #GSXR1000
@anthonypowell9168
@anthonypowell9168 2 года назад
can a 1990 zx11 get a flash
@IndyMotoRider
@IndyMotoRider 2 года назад
LOL pretty sure that bike isn't even fuel injected. I had a 92 Ninja zx6e, was still carbureted.
@anthonypowell9168
@anthonypowell9168 2 года назад
Well I see what you are saying about the air fuel ratio but we could at least remove some kind of restriction
@JPTulo
@JPTulo Год назад
Why do manufacturers always limit the throttle plates from opening so much? You see it on all the videos on this channel. Surely there has to be a reasoning behind it??
@gordocalor18cordero78
@gordocalor18cordero78 2 года назад
Where you located at I wanna take my z900 there
@TeamMooreMafia
@TeamMooreMafia 2 года назад
www.MooreMafia.com TAYLORS, SC
@gordocalor18cordero78
@gordocalor18cordero78 Год назад
Hey how you doing I have 2022 Kawasaki Z900 abs, I bought SC- Project K34-T41MB S1 Exhaust and K34-SS-FS Racing Headers, should I put that first or I have to put the ECU flash first.
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 2 года назад
This demonstrates how people can make the most worthwhile difference UP FRONT by doing adequate research before changing hardware. This is personally why I would run OEM bone stock front-to-back on a motorcycle, or when upgrading anything, I would go ALL THE WAY instead of piecemealing stuff, using low cost headers, changing things a step at a time, flash and reflash. No. Better off to leave everything totally alone or go the full distance when finally deciding to change anything. In the end, the bang for buck is best when doing everything than piecing stuff along and redoing it later.
@K-carbon
@K-carbon 2 года назад
Totally agree with your statement lots of lads said to me put slip on my ZX14R then down the road maybe change the header I was nope was either leaving it stock or going all out so in the end was a full yoshimura R77 exhaust system on it block off plates sprint P-08 air filter flashed ECU and custom tune Huge difference in handling revs out so easyer sounds great not anoxious noisy like sum system and tidy up the rear end of the bike very happy over all
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 2 года назад
@@K-carbon That sounds like a strong running machine. Probably about 205 hp and 122 ft-lb, or near as much.
@michaelcooper10
@michaelcooper10 2 года назад
Maybe an alien head would be better
@justinandcheyannehubbard450
@justinandcheyannehubbard450 2 года назад
Dude that bike didn't have any oil showing in the engine ????
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 2 года назад
It's no more than 5 years old and this 948cc isn't very stressed at all. You expected a leak?
@motorjack141
@motorjack141 2 года назад
@@exothermal.sprocket probably meant oil inside seen through the sight glass? When engine is running you usually see nothing, it has to be rested for a while for oils to settle.
@justinandcheyannehubbard450
@justinandcheyannehubbard450 2 года назад
Ya if my bike is up right u can see oil in the glass thing
@motorjack141
@motorjack141 2 года назад
@@justinandcheyannehubbard450 on mine it shows but very low, unless i turn it off and let it rest for a couple of minutes.
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 2 года назад
@@motorjack141 Ah I get it. Yeah, depending on oil temperature, it'll take a minute to settle to a trustworthy indicated level in the sight glass.
@motobarberdad
@motobarberdad 2 года назад
M4 full system exhaust z900 2021 is way better
@Goopie48
@Goopie48 2 года назад
M4 def seems like a sweet spot for price vs performance.
@jeremybly
@jeremybly 2 года назад
In general only litre bike's only gain big hp. The rest of the bike's only gain marginally.
@michaelcooper10
@michaelcooper10 2 года назад
Dont like it sounds to European
@markusreynolds7586
@markusreynolds7586 Год назад
Black Widow not good
@K-carbon
@K-carbon Год назад
For the money there actually not to bad they have improved quality wise in the last 10 years greatly
@markusreynolds7586
@markusreynolds7586 Год назад
@@K-carbon I'm talking about gains +hp
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