22:55 - “we all go into these processes wanting answers, desiring certainty; and what your saying it is that the transformation into understanding the process itself that is legitimate and that the final outcome was much less important than actually holding the quality within the process.”
12:28 is gold. Knowing your orientation 100% and being respons able is what helps people most. Fact. Very Rick Rubinish when it comes to you creating for yourself and that’s what helps other people most. Agree
It's a difficult path leading with Pirsig into discussions. I tended to use his ideas as an internal resource or tool, which doesn't help spread the word. To avoid evangelising I suppose, I spent much of my time translating Pirsig into other people's language.
