Zeitgeist's Peter Joseph Talks New Human Rights Movement 

Totally agree

beyond true.

GD truth, even on 2 hrs of sleep. The amount of lives that can be spared and prospered by Peter, should be the same number who stand up for him*, which is everyone in some way.

dont forget conspiracy theorist, not to mention Zeitgeist had several anti-semetic dog whistles in it

Conspiracy Bot! Who cares about the messenger... did you get the message?

+Candy and Violence maybe from you, ive watched them dozens of times and not once did I ever think or hear anti- semitism.

mistercohaagen yea.... except no one will take your message seriously when you're all like, "OMFG YOU GUYS ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT JET FUEL CANT MELT STEEL BEAMS"

Zevixx I could not source like half the quotes in the third part of the first movie anywhere except from Jewish conspiracy sites. One of the people he quotes in the movie, Louis McFadden, was a major anti-semite who blamed the jews for everything and even supported the anti-semetic policies of Nazi Germany. When he ran for president in 1936, one of his campaign slogans was "Christianity instead of Judaism"

Yes yes and yes.

It is the choice as far as choosing capitalism is a choice. Modern capitalism, fractional reserve banking, and everything else that make up the rules of what we call the global economy or even a nation like the US' economy dictate there will be those in poverty.

Agreed. I would, however, be careful about saying "utopian" ideas. Jacque Fresco himself believed that there is no such thing as utopia, only viable solutions that work for a given time period. As time goes on, the earth and universe will continue to evolve and develop new problems that will require new solutions and ways of thinking. There will never be a state of "perfection". Now, the only question is will humans on earth destroy themselves before we can even reach the next evolutionary stage.

First the worst. He's sense aid he didn't understand the state of affairs in the world very at the time he made that. Religion, though a problem, is nowhere near the top. Of course it would eventually have to be dissolved as it's simply another example of tribalism and us vs them.

It seems however that are last partially you've missed the point and likely are a gullible individual if you think the Mayan calendar "predicted" anything or that you're clairvoyant.

I prefer to say *it is we the general public who are way behind the times.*

This crap ...this global society is by design..not accident.

Ted Bolha there mentality of people would need to be reshaped to not seek status and not have an "alpha, beta" mentality. In Ireland there was a time when only the first born male would be able to own property and subsequently wed or vote. This meant that the non first born males found other ways to establish dominance and hierarchies and it led to combat being used for this purpose. If this mentality isn't changed first there could be much worse in store.

Javier Valenzuela yes, too many think they are the queen bees and we are the workers - there to uphold the economic system to maintain their comfortable lifestyle...

Peter Did. See the description

worldpeace05 thanks! didn't check, still in the middle of the show, but a new fan already.

Peter Joseph also has produced 3 documentaries; Zeitgeist, Zeitgeist: Addendum and Zeitgeist: Moving Forward. He also has a show on RU-vid called Culture in decline. All of them are great and I strongly recommend watching them :)

@Tommi Lahtinen. I absolutelly agree with you there! All the "sources" you described there has very important information that every child and young grown-ups should already know about now - from the learning and education in schools. But that's not the case, sadly. I think, for example, that Zeitgeist Moving Forward is the best documentary ever done! For me it's a mistory that not every school show that movie - because it's filled with lot of basic and important information that every student should know and understand.

Tommi Lahtinen Peter Joseph is truly amazing. Love all his books!

MrLasso15 id have the dictionary in the next tab

lol

I agree Peter would

I'm guessing this interview wasn't exactly a prime example of his sesquipedalianism; he spoke relatively clearly and concisely here.

I've been wanting this to happen forever now XD My two favorite intellectuals.

What if it was augmented with something like what the soylent (not the movie) people are doing? Could you grow your own veg for nutrition and taste, and add in what you lack with an easily ship-able form of calorie like soylent, or whatever else you could think of? At least make it more efficient and cost-effective. What about after things like farmbot.io? There has to a a point where things start to work for a household, and then can be expanded to the block, neighborhood, township, city, county, etc. Is at least a bootstrapping of localized food production possible from the individual on upward? I think so... speaking as an open-source roboticist.

Of course you can grow all food locally. Look into openag from MIT.

He's referring to vertical gardens. He lays out the calculations of how much food can be produced per acre with vertical gardening, and it is much more efficient than traditional farming.

Its called “vertical farming” and its a concept already being implemented into urban landscapes

The Zeitgeist project is an economic movement, not a religious movement. How did you become atheist by hearing their ideas? They barely touch on religion.

Well, I came across the documentary by Peter, Zeitgeist: The Movie around that time. It opened my eyes to always find multiple perspectives to any given ideology such as my former religion. Leaving christianity didn't left me with searching for a replacement so I turned atheist. Although, there are many things in Buddhism that have always interested me.

3rd eye open? me too

I believe you are referencing the anti-religious commentary breaking down Abraham religion as a product literally invented and of it's time period. Theists and atheists alike have been trashing it's thesis for years. As it turns out, Richard Carrier with a PhD in ancient history, specially focusing on ancient Roman history, took a public grant and discovered there was much weight to the Christ Myth hypothesis. Richard Carrier at one point agreed that Jesus was at the very least a historical person but changed his mind when he researched it more deeply. He's now convinced that the historicity of Jesus carries nearly no weight. Others in the field are slowly opening up to Carriers work. Long story short, this saves Peter much of the scrutiny he has received over the years and further legitimizes his thinking.

jag10 Damn... you called him out as a cheater, 😂😂

what do you mean? he was just waking up , i believe .

Educate people, write books, propose potential solutions. That's it. There's no political power because Zeitgeist is not a political movement. Being a leader in the Zeitgeist movement gives you no authority over others.

Lu Guy that's an odd statement that seems to ignore most of human recorded history and especially the last 100 years of world history.

Javier Valenzuela , maybe it’s more about culture being installed, attitudes becoming acceptable, manners understood, subtle nuance that shape methods and means within smaller then larger communities are developed, thus institutionalize. American culture, to me anyhow, is about faking it, until you make it. Including they’re reality media. They like the superficial, the entertainment element that they think reflects who they are but is in actuality marketing them a lifestyle, a way of life. Branding. They buy it , eat it up. Another, Americanism is how opinionated they are. Distracted by it. Doesn’t matter if they’re right or wrong, they think free speech is anything that comes out of their mouths; primitive , argumentative, projecting, unfounded, unhelpful, now Trumpard is even fashionable phrase. Ever changing but not. They think they’re fresh, innovative, extraordinary, special, invincible but mostly they are childlike without taking responsibility. Players. They have a show for you, while in reality they are cowards like Paul Ryan. Big talk, talk, talk. Nothing is for free, you see. Somebody will pay for the play.

Communism still uses money as a mechanism to run society. In a resource based economy as proposed by the Zeitgeist Movement and the Venus Project, money will cease to exist because it will no longer be relevant or needed by using technology to create an abundance and give free access to goods and services to all people. There is also no government or state that rules over the majority in an RBE.

He's been controlled opposition since the beginning, its cultural marxism repackaged as science. He mixes truth with unscientific egalitarian crap. He belongs to the same tribe as the host

Wrong. people in poverty die many many years before those not in poverty due to system dynamics. That is structural violence. And no - those in poverty do not have a choice because capitalism is a zero sum game.

Khannea Sun Tzu why?

"We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them." -Einstein. This is a complex problem that requires complex language to even describe accurately enough to even begin this fight. www.ted.com/talks/steven_pinker_on_language_and_thought

Direnova, ignore the first Zeitgeist movie. It is totally irrelevant to what Peter Joseph's subsequent lectures and the Zeitgeist movement. What Peter talks now makes perfect sense and should be part of the world's educational curriculum

Direnova I'd like to see that episode. Do you know it's title? I looked on their channel but nothing stood out.

James Estrada Couldn't find the exact video I saw but there are loads on the subject,just google Atheist experience zeitgeist .

Direnova Fair enough. Thanks.

Peter neither advocates central planning nor central planners. There is no "center" for planning for what he proposes which wasn't even his original ideas, but from people like Buckminster Fuller and Jacque Fresco and many other thinkers before them.

Of course there is scarcity in capitalism! This is why we have homeless people. Medically uninsured people. Hungry people.

Anytime anyone defuncts on a current system and wants to make a new one. Those people want to be at the center of the new one. Its all about being included.

Matthew Loffelmacher So the answer to the problem of the free market is more free market?

Luke Nutkicker the free market isn't a problem it's a solution

Matthew Loffelmacher So where is the efficiency you speak of? The markets are the most unregulated they have ever been.

Uh McDonald's... Ford... You know those names because they introduced higher efficiency into their respective markets. Higher efficiency translates into smaller more powerful phones every year and they're cheaper! Wow what a system

Matthew Loffelmacher You mean phones, rich in precious metals, that become obsolete every year and find themselves stock piled in land fills? That's your idea of efficient? Efficient is a fast food chain that provides indigestible faux food, that again at the end of the work day finds itself in the garbage when just outside the premises there are people starving to death, that's efficient?

Kanyarat Baker how could you have possibly come away from that debate with a negative view of his ideas and not stefan's? Stefan got fucking embarrassed

yup. Stefan is a freakshow

I think you meant "Sadly, it exposes the many faults of Stefan Molyneux" who, not so sadly, is no longer with us on RU-vid.

Conspiracy Bot!

He totally lies in this video. There is no such thing as poverty. They are all living like Kanye in Bangladesh.

What conspiracy theories, I would love to hear of a single one.

Writing a book is probably more than you've done. Promoting the right ideas is more than you'll ever do, apparently. You realize we can see what you uploaded, right? C'mon dude... if inspiring people wasn't a functional possibility, then where did the phrase 'hearts and minds" come from?

You act as if humans have no free will and are doomed to fail in the same way time after time without exception.

RatSlayer 420 You mess up right when you try to convey every animal will outgrow the land or means to live...because humans are separate from animals on many levels hence culture, language, conditioning, and technology. Currently our economic system globally encourages constant consumption but are you really denying the existence of tribes or localized communities that have proven to live in harmony with the land? If that's the case, I don't mind pointing you in the right direction. You'll also notice the correlation between education and offspring proves we don't have this "instinct" to reproduce at a rate to harm the current capacity. Education and conditioning plays a big role in someone's decision to have 10 kids or 1. This drop in biodiversity is merely the effects of a market system that operates as if the world is not symbiotic. Treating finite resources like pieces of a game for the sake of paper money. It's ignoring the reality that as technology grows the ancient notion of a "market" needs to evolve into a more harmonious means of resource sustainability. Companies need to work together with open information, rather than to compete just to create more waste from product obsolescence, hence new phones every month with minor differences for the sake of more sales. Products need to be made with the intentions of lasting as long as possible with Universal layouts in order to reuse old models. Lastly, you extremely mess up when you say "people are poor because they have low IQ". I just want to ask, when was the last time you looked into this? 1929? Have you looked into any sociology, psychology study in the past 50years?? It's like your saying "stress doesn't effect health, your health effects your stress" www.businessinsider.com/poverty-effect-on-intelligence-2013-8

So there is correlation between poverty, lower gray mass volume and academic proficiency. I think I've read this article before, and I'm no way discounting the work of actual scientists but as always, correlation does not equal causation. The heritability of IQ is a hugely controversial matter, and hasn't really been made clearer by findings in genetic research that certain alleles correlate highly with intelligence metrics. Meanwhile however, there is no denying the fact that IQ influences your choices- and abilities, in the education and job markets. The devaluing of unskilled labour inevitably causes increasing poverty in individuals and populations with lower IQ, and further developments in labor efficiency and automation is going to make the problem much worse, not better.

"You mess up right when you try to convey every animal will outgrow the land or means to live...because humans are separate from animals on many levels hence culture, language, conditioning, and technology." None of our abstract reasoning and use of tools seems to have stopped us from breeding endlessly and destroying the natural resources we rely on so far, in fact it seems to have had quite the opposite effect. The reason there are communities and tribes that "live in harmony with the land" whatever that means, is precisely because they lack the means not to live in equlibrium with their environment. They lack the means to empoverish their future to enrich their present. Given the choice, humans tend to choose that way of life, just like a group of rats would rather eat the grain supply and die from starvation when it depletes because of overpopulation. You have a good point about education and the number of children a woman has. It's just too bad there are forces actively working against the emancipation of women in the third world, and western feminism has done nothing to help that recently.

+RatSlayer PotheadDude, Poverty and IQ decline are generationally synergistic; direct and inverse are simultaneously true, with observable genetic and epigenetic effects. "Human nature" isn't set in stone, and we can guide human behavior with education and intelligent statistical analysis. Human behavior being what one can do in a lifetime, and human nature being what that behavior produces in the next generation; this is a function of evolution itself. In a society where self-interest has become social-interest, we'd all be educated to possess this value with a full understanding about why it's important. IQ is a narrow measurement at best... I think the point of PJ's train of thought is that it shouldn't matter what your IQ is. Human happiness and flourishing doesn't need to depend on any specific set of traits when we can and should base our life support system (socio-economic system) on real environmental data and scientifically tested methods of management instead of gut feelings, beliefs or mob consensus. This would provide every generation with the best chance of continual improvement. It's not like the people in the space station have to guess at a manual mix of their own air supply and water requirements... we can measure it and arrive at a number of people we can support in a given environment. Then we know not to send more than that number up there (or not to overbreed ourselves out of equilibrium on "Spaceship Earth"). Equilibrium is what most of PJ's message is about, taken as a whole. I'm a cynic too, but I realized that the psychological damage that drove me to that effect is all derived from the system as it stands today (when viewed through systems theory), and that there is a better way. So I'm cynical about everything but this "better way", and I work to better occupy that mental space by learning which strategies get me moving in the right direction. I have no idea how far I'll get, but I want to die at least aligned with undelusional undogmatic principles that are based on evidence, logic and reason.