Zenith: The Drama Saga (Rant/Review and Analysis) 

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It's like when a gaming RU-vidr makes their own game.We want to love it, BUT

VivaVideo User you saying dream daddy isn’t a delight to play? Outside of that, yeah you’re right

This should honestly be the top comment

"I hate sand"

CeruleanAether they could if they touch the stars

One side of you would burn (not with fire, sun radiation and rays) while the shade would freeze.

It doesn't matter if you burn or freeze, you'd first burst out. The pressure difference is so huge, blood vessels would go gaga.

kelly r That’s what I said too

also a bit of a Throne of Glass rip off too

@afootineachworld fairs, also forgot to mention harry potter!

@afootineachworld oh i am not saying they r similar just that ideas clearly came from the books -- eg Bloody Baron, Bloody Baroness .... obviously HP is superior in every way tho

“So what are we? Some kind of Suicide Squad?”

Watching a beating hurts a lot less than taking one

@@MountSilky252 Mood.

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I recommend terrible writing advice. It’s a RU-vid channel and it’s entertaining and informative.

Me, I watch bad reviews to figure out what not to do with my novel

I was writing as I listened, and sometimes that means hoping that whatever I write makes more sense than the stories I hear ranted about on Booktube ^^;

Same

OMG same-

I agree completely!

That could be what happened, but we need to remember that a work is its creator's responsibility first and foremost. _If_ the publishers did ask them to just publish the novel as it is, they should have fought back to edit and revise. There is, of course, the possibility that the publisher then retreats their offer. The worst case scenario would be their names get black-listed by Harlequin. But IMO, the risk is worth to be taken for a better final product.

Santiago Macedo they won’t as there is no oxygen , it wil melt

TheSlyRise Yup.

last time i cheaked ships are metal not glass how dose a glass ship run in space?

TheSlyRise Throne of Glass. Ship of Glass. Lol. A glass spaceship? I can't.

Also, why are these wanted criminals flying around in a see-through ship made of a super fragile material??

A lot of it definitely could've been fixed with minimal edits, but what makes me more mad is all of the missed opportunities to have some sort of commentary.

kaya rose Yeah, and they often switch back and forth between Dextro’s and Andis in the same chapter which can be really disorienting.

I remember being really confused when reading Will Grayson, Will Grayson. The book had only 2 pov's and it was so so confusing. I can't even begin to imagine how it would be with 6 pov's

How is Will Grayson,Will Grayson confusing?

It goes from ‘Vengeance is mine’ to ‘I regret ‘killing’ whatever her name was’ to ‘Andi is soooo hot’ to ‘I was chewing moon chew’ to ‘I’m evil because I can’ in a few pages

I feel like six perspectives can be pulled off if each character is different enough to add something by having a perspective, they have to have their own voice so you don't get confused and some authors can pull this off well but if you can't tell the difference it would be better to just have it in third person

Andrea Hartman I agree with that completely! Had there not been all of the other words, soul wouldn’t have bothered me. I know that all of our words originate from earth and have a long and intricate backstory, but as you said, those derived from specific cultures and religions should be avoided. That was the point I was trying to make. You’re not wrong about the made up words, though, they need to be used sparingly for sure!

I agree as well. I feel Scythe by Neal Shusterman is a good example of creating his own words and having everything make sense in those words without long winded paragraphs and abrupt explanations. His world takes place on earth and he is still able to create his own background and vocabulary in a natural way.

hell can and has existed before Catholicism* Hel is a Nordic hell, where Valhalla is Nordic heaven.

So like... they published the first draft? :O

Nedeli I don't know. It was just an observation.

Nedeli that's what it read like.

Believe it or not, that happens quite often.

Care to share any examples?

Ooh, Lunar Chronicles. You reminded me of something with that: over the course of the series, different books or chapters would have different character perspectives, but it was handled so well and every character's perspective contributed something. With this I was just very confused...

Hey! Thank you!! Yeah, I think, honestly, they just needed an editor that had a vision for this book and that would be hard on it. It could've been good -- or at least passable -- but it suffered from a lot of easily fixable problems.

justvitt That’s what everyone is saying! I haven’t read it yet though.

i mean, the group of criminals team up to steal/save something or someone isn't something unique to six of crows, but yes, it is similar and probably that's where they got the idea

I just started reading Six of Crows and when I heard the synopsis of this book I was like "it sounds like the same thing??"

justvitt ikr.

Jordan Harvey you really should, it's fantastic. 11/10 tbh

Ben Gaffney I think you’re probably right

Agreed.

Yeah... as I mentioned, it's really a fantasy set in space.

Indeed.

Indubitably

QueenOfFabulous Honestly, that’s kind of how it felt reading it.

Yeah, I don't think I would've minded it if they used it in the context of religion, but it was used as metaphors or descriptions. Things like, Andi attacked like a demon from Hell. I think that's why it bothered me so much!

I have yet to get over Han Solo going "I'll see you in Hell" in The Empire Strikes Back >.

Brave Kate Just that one word would stop me from reading that book

aahhh this is so hard for me because I'm a language creator (degree in linguistics) who's writing a book with tons of worldbuilding and my name is Andi lol

I feel like lowercase-h hell is one thing, like just a vague “bad place/thing that happens when you die”, but capital-H Hell, as in “Christian beliefs Hell where bad people go when they die and Satan is there” is 100% another thing. It might just be because I’m Christian and I personally use capitalization on words like ‘Hell’ and ‘God’ to indicate if a person believes in them, but it’s SO GRATING to read a book throwing around capital letter symbolism.

Ben Gaffney, I don't know about lindsy but sasha hasn't even read all Harry potter books (I know, Like how? But that's not the point) But I remember how proud she was for coming up with that name

I have mixed feelings about that name, it makes sense by the definition of the term, but the HP Marauders have such a well known reputation, just hearing that word people think of HP not a dictionary definition. It's like the Pink Ladies from Grease, no one attempts to name their girl gang that because of the notoriety of the name. It's why there's really only a sole well known group for the names Avengers, Justice League, etc. (even then the editors should have had them change the name, bc even if it was a coincidence it doesn't appear to be since they're avid readers and it seems naive to think they wouldn't have any knowledge-this is just by what it looks like)

if their space pirates who kill and pillage for money then marauders is ok. My last name when written in Gaelic means marauder. ff14 an mmo has a class called marauder. Assuming its just from happy potter is bad. Like assuming a certain song only exists because of a certain movie or game.

In X-Men comics there’s a villain group of mutant mercenaries called the Marauders.

You realize maruaders is a term that means killers right? JK doesn't own the word. 🙄

Thanks! Glad they're helpful!!

Hayley Is there such a thing? An author that does not read?

Yel H Pretty much me. I wanna publish novels but I'd much rather choose a visual medium over a novel any day.

@@Yelgie no

Katia Lei That’s so nice to hear! Glad you enjoyed it!!

Lacy Days They definitely have other meanings, but in the book, with the context that we had, it was clear that they were using it with the Christian connotations in mind!

I learned that Hell is Germanic (not sure if was halja or something similar, but the meaning is "hiding") cause the word was already found with the underworld conotations on manuscripts before the Viking invasion.

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It's definitely very derivative! And thanks, glad you enjoyed :)

LibraryofAmy and the main plot is like six of crows.i mean,come on!

Not to mention with the multiple POVs. I've heard several reviewers say that they tried to pull a Six of Crows with having as many as they did. (I have yet to read the book, so I can't offer anything beyond what I've heard.)

Raven Nivhaar the plot was basically throne of glass and six of crows combined and just ugh

LibraryofAmy it did remind me of the lunar chronicles but since i liked that series i let it slide

Sarah's Bookshelves Haha

Taylor Ramirez I don’t know, it depends on weaponry, strategy, and technology but it’s just not explained

I thought the same thing.

Me specifically, or in general? Because there's definitely the possibility of carving out a few good ones from the bones of this (which they could've done with a good editor).

Little Winter Flower Glad you liked it! And yeah, it definitely wasn’t my favourite.

It was... a lot.

Yes, this is so true. Research is vitally important, even if you don't end up using what you learn in the novel directly. If you know what you're talking about, it will be apparent in the work.

+Jordan Harvey Exactly. I mean, the stuff like "corpses burning in space" or "galactic years" could have been avoided or developped/justified if more work had been put into world building.

StarCrossedBooks Thank you!! That is so sweet

Haha glad you liked it! I actually have a heated review of red queen if you want to see me throw shade at the real Maven too.

That's so good to hear! Thank you!!

Same here!

it's the authors world something they make up in their head. Who are you to say what terminology they can or shouldn't use in their own book?

Glad you enjoyed it! And that's always my intention with this channel. I don't want to rag on anyone, Writing is HARD, I want to instead learn from it and analyze it!

Which authors do u feel u can learn the most from? Why? Further, why are some authors so capable of churning out copious amounts of publishable material yr after yr if writing is so hard? eg. A. Christie, Trollope, Dumas, S. King, B. Sanderson, C. Cookson....

bookteafull haha omg

Charles Smith 😉

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!!

Haha make it happen. I’d be super lame and narcissistic if I made gifs of myself but I’m all for other people doing it. And that is bizarre that they didn’t give you the whole book!

Thanks!!

It really is. I think it could've been good, but they didn't take advantage of the world and characters that were building!

Haha thanks

Dynda Gianika Putri Haha I hope you enjoy!!

Agreed!

0noregrets0 I’m not familiar enough with Mass Effect, but it could very well be. It’s very derivative throughout.

I think that's true, which I kind of get. I know that Lindsay has some anxiety issues and she's gone through periods where she can't write because of that. Reviews aren't meant so much for the author as the consumer. That being said, when your book is getting a lot of the same feedback, it's good to be aware of that. I went to the book signing and one thing that did bother me though was that Sasha said she never did negative reviews of books because she wanted to be in the industry and would be working with or alongside some of these people, but she said it in a way that kind of implied people shouldn't criticize her book if they ever want to write. That bugged me for obvious reasons.

I know that Sasha only watches the ones that have a good review. I believe that they need to be aware about these criticisms because they are writing another book.

Jordan Harvey that somehow doesn't surprise me. I currently work in the industry in hybrid-publishing (though I just got a new job and am leaving soon but I do hope to be an author and agent someday), and am currently working to reboot my own BookTube channel and I have to say that there should be no qualms with giving bad reviews. It makes you more credible. And if you're going to work in the industry, learning to take criticism is essential. Yes, you're going to be working with those people eventually, but wouldn't you rather be known as a comprehensive scholar with tastes because you have a great understanding of literature in general and aren't afraid to get critical rather than someone who leaves shallow reviews and can't necessarily be trusted to give honest insight?? It doesn't surprise me that what she said came off the way it did. I stopped watching her because I often saw that kind of attitude in her videos. It's the kind of attitude that makes her look naive and even juvenile to the point that it doesn't make me surprised that the book came out as poor as it did. It makes me wonder if she thinks her product is perfect as is because she clearly doesn't have an understanding of how the industry works. Yes reviews are mostly for the consumers but as a first time author she should read them so she can improve her writing. She only retweets the good reviews so she clearly reads those. She does seem like a lovely person, and I can't speak for Lindsay, but I hope Sasha kind of gets a wake up call soon if she wants to progress and improve.

Human Being agreed

I agree! I think criticism and honest feedback is tremendously important.

So we are talking about a children’s book. So there is that.

Like fifty shades of grey

Rachel Stewart Oh my gosh me too! I love a good space opera, but this was not it.

For sure! I really like looking at story and tropes with a broader stroke, but this year I do plan to do more reviews. Thank you and I'm so glad you liked the video!!

Wonder how you'd treat franchise fantasy, as written by such stalwarts as JRR Tolkien, CS Lewis, P. Pullman & JK Rowling.

Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it! And yeah, I haven't seen many people who have liked it really break it down.

Haha honestly this break down made me want to go edit my own WIP and feel so conscious of these issues so I can look for them better in my own stuff lol

thanks! Glad you liked it :)

Thank you! I'm glad you enjoy them!!

Haha thanks... I think? And I'm glad you liked the video :)

Glad you enjoyed the video!

Alexandra Bowden Thanks so much!! And like, right? How did that happen.

TimeAndChance Or just don’t review it.

Wait until Xtine's book comes out (ostensibly in '19). If small b'tubers pan it, the dozen or so booktubers >100K will either praise it or say 0. I really hope it gets min. 3/5 stars out of the most merciless critic 'cause I prefer to have more good books in the world. I do wish Xtine good luck.

Lol, we know why. They're all friends so they don't wanna say anything bad about their stuff. Or they're just easy to please, which there's nothing wrong with but oh well. Most big booktubers don't give negative reviews anyway but I find it interesting that so many of them won't say a word about it when it's the only thing getting talked about right now, which just kinda shows that they probably don't think highly of it.

Cori Ilardi i think Christine's will do better cause it's hard to really fuck of a contemporary and I believe that's what she's writing

I've seen a couple of booktubers say they are not interested in the book. I think it's nice to see that you don't have to care about something just because it comes from booktube.

Maria Jose Bissio im two years late BUT YESSSSS i agreeeeeee

cloudgirl150 I’ve heard a lot of good things too! It’s on my TBR

Glad you liked it!!

Thank you! I'm glad you liked it :)

omg same!!!

Haha I’m glad!! It’s a long one, so I hope you enjoy!

Jordan Harvey Loved your review! I tend to enjoy long reviews, and I've watched many of Zenith over the past week or so. You explained all your points very well, I'm impressed! Keep up the good work ^^

Thanks so much! I'm glad you enjoyed it!!

Haha thanks!