Zenless Zone Zero Tier List - All Characters Ranked in 1.0 

Two big reasons she's going on top!!! 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯

My boy is being dirty by everyone :(

@@saltyaxis I do think that's the main reason, and while there is some validity to it, I think the placement is still inflated, especially if people are replacing her with Nicole on the same team and seeing as much if not more success

​@@saltyaxis the problem is specialist units will always outperform generalists. Soukaku is the best unit in ellen (and probably future ice dps) teams. She is also still a more than viable choice for many other teams and is a 4* option to activate lyacons passive on any dps (only other option would be rina). Also def shred is very inflated in value right now cause we are underlvled. Once poeple hit max lvl and invest in their soukaku she will provide similiar or more dmg to nicole in many teams even with her higher field time. So now we compare a unit that is the clear best choice in one team (best team in the game) as well as a good generalist vs a unit that is maybe a tiny bit better generalist but has no team where she is clearly the best (even in Zhu yuan teams apparently rina performs basicly the same). It doesnt really make sense to put her over soukaku in that case.

​@hansbernd49 I would value field time over other stuff a lot more. It's just too important in a time limited combat. sokaku uses way too much time spinning the flag.

I would lower Sokaku to 0.5 and raise Nicole to 0. Being tied down to a specific team is actually a negative. Defense shred with cc is just insane, especially on a free unit

Even ignoring field time, Sokakus buffs are capped while Nicole is entirely percentages. A level 60 Ellen has around 3300 attack, going to 4300 is a smidge over a 30% increase, as well as having ice damage bonus from passive and disc drives. Meanwhile Nicole gives def shred as well as a generic "enemy takes more damage" instead of something named with diminishing returns. Speedrunners and people pushing content dropped Soukaku (even with C6 and R5 engine) for Nicole somewhat early on. Especially once agents hit 50 and people had a much better idea of stat numbers and Soukakus hard capped buffs could be better calculated.

Not with Zhu yuan. She can get all her shots out before the duration is over. Soukaku is T0 because of Ellen. Nicole can be T0 because of Zhu Yuan

I think everyone have nicole M1. You gotta be dirt shi t unlucky to not get nicole M1

@@veezerrscharnhorst I don't have it, but I also haven't spent a single polychrome since I want Zhu Yuan, and will likely get at least one more copy of Nicole from that

That would be me. C0 Anby as well.

Does the def reduction not keep refreshing the duration with each hit of the field, therefore making it effectively last longer? Or does the first hit apply the effect and that's it

@@alb7466each hit resets it

​@@alb7466 Yes, it does. It's fully possible to get the full def shred buff and doing so against higher enemies provides more value than Soukakus full 1k atk buff. Aside from also needing Nicole's W-engine, it's only a difference of skill. If you have it, you'll do more overall team dps with Nicole in slot. If you don't, like this guy, then stick with Soukaku.

This is why nicole is stronger than soukaku in Shiyu Defense. In shiyu you have limited time, 9 minutes. Soukaku uses too much time with her skill. Nicole just goes in and out in less than a second (with chain attack) and probably 3 seconds with her special hold. Time is very precious in Shiyu. In terms of raw power, then yes Soukaku buffs is stronger than Nicole's

If you're saying "without def reduction nicole lags behinf soukaku" bruh you don't say. What's the point of making a comparison if 1 side has nothing useful going on. Be more critical