Zepla reacts to How FFXIV's Richest Players ACTUALLY Make Gil by Jolsn FFXIV 

All I know is every time I look up a video on how to make Gil they say "just level ur crafters and gatherers" And so far I've leveled 3 crafters to 90 and I've never been so broke XD

"I'm poor right now, I only have 90 million gil" bruh.

"Crafting and gathering is not playing the game"... "Palace of the Dead is fun"... we're very different players Zepla LMAO

Zepla.. I hate that you think 90 mil is "poor." I'm sitting here with less than 400k. Ugh..

A very common mistake I see is people putting materials on the market board in full stacks. As a crafter, if I don't want to make Oroshigane Ingots because I'm rushing to make two body pieces, I'm not looking to glut my inventory or run to my retainer to store something. Even though I'm already sacrificing gil for convenience, I would much rather buy 4 ingots for 3,000g each than buying 99 ingots for 1,000g. Even if I only need 3 ingots, I'd much rather buy four and end up throwing one out than have spent an extra 88,000g on ingots I have to store. Smaller quantities sell faster, almost every time. If you are 'flipping' vendor items (say, Amal'jaa ingots), you will still make more money faster by selling in reasonable quantities unless you are undercutting so much you're not making a profit. I made hundreds of thousands by going to Ul'dah where the craft vendor is right next to the market board and flipping items... but my stuff sold because I was selling 3-10 items at a time instead of 99 stacks. NO ONE needs 99 Grade 1 Vitality Alkahests anymore, if they ever did. Sell them in groups of two or five, and they will sell. For this to really work, also be cognizant of how many of an item is required to make the next step. If people need 3 sands to make a nugget, selling in multiples of three will sell faster. There's an argument to be made that selling in groups of 2 will make them buy twice, but myself and other crafts I know would rather scroll down just a touch to pay an extra 50g for one 2 purchase and one 1 purchase than have an extra sand floating around. Revisit old recipes. People will make videos about 'scientists don't want you to know this one simple trick', but when it doesn't work or stops turning a huge profit, they wait for the next video and never return. Because those methods are not crazy valuable any more, a lot of suppliers moved on. In no case will these make you billions, but the profit can be steady. A good example is Primal minions, which were very expensive (Blood Peppers have to be grown over weeks), but then the market crashed when HoH came out and they were dropping like candy. But now HoH is much less popular, so the price is starting to recover. Primal glow weapons always crash when a new trial is around (Byakko Manes, for example) but then when interest in the primal itself dies out, the item recovers and sometimes skyrockets. Celestial Kimono Remnants can be gained at a rate of easily ten per hour (I have hit 20), but singles are back up to 300k in Crystal because glam players want that spicy purple glow. Finally, exploit the working class. Someone might want a specific drop from a specific fight and will let you take all the other drops which you can sell. Convince three tank friends to unsync Shinryu for their achievement mounts, and 'follow along' to take the drops, desynth, and massive profit. Tell them it's 'more fun in a group', a special 'tank run only challenge', 'the runs are faster if we don't wait for loot bids' and then just happen to be the last one leaving the instance, but Tom Sawyer that stuff and roll around in Tataru levels of cash.

Zepla: I have 90,000,000 gil, that is a very small amount. Me: (Has 5.8 million gil) Also Me: (Brandishes knife and fork)

A big question is also 'why get that rich?' in FFXIV, especially if you are already a max level omni crafter/gatherer. If you ever want an item, that can be crafted/gathered, you can/will do it yourself. You may buy something like a material for convenience, you may get a mount that didn't drop for you in POTD or the golden mikoshi or whatever. But in the end, you will just sit on a lot of gil and no way to really spend it^^ One thing I really like to do with my riches, now that I have my house (the reason I wanted to make gil), is giving 100k gil to baby sprouts (mostly players without a grand company in their profile etc) wandering around in the three big cities and around (sadly doesn't work with trials players) and just wish them fun with the game. They will be happy to be able to buy new gear more often, get some glam or invest it into leveling their own gatherer/crafter jobs later^^

I got into crafting and gathering with the intention of getting to max level and getting rich off of end game crafts. Made the mistake of leveling a crafter first so ended up flat broke. In the process of leveling my gatherers, I realized it was easier to become a supplier rather than a manufacturer because I had a lot of retainers to handle the bulk of the gathering. Once you figure out which materials are selling, you make gil hand over fist.

FF14 is the first MMO that I don't feel pathetically poor in. The value of items in the market are at mostly reasonable levels likely because of all the alternate ways to get items. It makes the marketboard a convenience tool instead of this forbidden thing I can't interact with. Comparing this with my other favorite MMO, Guild Wars 2, and it's night and day. I can't afford half of what I need in GW2's marketboard without spending time focused on grinding for cash. in FF14 I just... do dailies and get more than enough. And I'm still a sprout! It would be an interesting economic study to see how FF14 has managed to balance its economy so that new players aren't intimidated out of participating in it. Or maybe my server is just weird and I'm lucky. IDK lol

I was wondering what happened to the window market for those. Thats why it completely crashed. they used to be about 30k on my server and now barely sell for 7k.

In case no one else noticed, he put up a post a day or so latter with a screenshot of all his unsold furniture. RIP that scheme.

I find crafting high level crafting tools for non blacksmith/armourer crafters world a treat. Can make a sold M gil by crafting culinarian pans. Also as a gatherer target resources that both sell often and have a decent value (like pigments or reagents for high level potions)

If you want another tip for making gil, its called gil mitigation and one way to stop spending gil is to stop spending gil on Teleports, anything above 500+ per TP is too much, what you can do is you can get Adventure Squadrons do lvl 50s that drops the scroll which on use gives a discount on aetheryte TPS for 2 hours, join an FC with a TP discount buff, or IMO the best way... is get free TPs by buying free aetheryte tickets with centurio seals and allied seals, they sell 5 per and you can casually join S rank hunts in ARR to SB and you get 20 right away per kill, doing trains nets you atleast 90+ if my math is not wrong. this has saved me thousands of gil atleast of TPs since i do a lot of teleporting when i gather stuff as a botanist and miner also another tip if you press the teleport menu and click the cog wheel theres an option to automatically use an aetheryte ticket above a certain amount of gil, I set mine to 1gil cost since i have 1k+ of these aetheryte tickets

I guess to each his own when it comes to crafting/gathering. I really enjoyed it personally, to the point where I got all my crafters/gatherers to Lv.50 before I even got my mount. Tbf, I got an exp buff by being in a preferred server so its less grindy for me than it usually is, plus some aspects of crafting/gathering can indeed be a bore, but thankfully, I don't really worry about that since I only really craft to build gear for my character.

The most efficient way I ever made gil was selling furniture when Kugane released. I made probably about 2 bil over the course of 2 months. But I had prepped months prior, and I also spent REAL LIFE MONEY on extra retainers to have extra auction slots. People never like to talk about it, but one's potential is absolutely affected by how much real money you want to spend on slots. Although you can sorta cheese it with alts. But even then, extra retainers are multiplicative. So if you pay for 2X retainers, and have 8 alts, that's now 8x2=16 extra retainers. I used to really love playing the market, but I quit when I took the hobby into real life markets. Day trading and stocks. --------------------------- A lot of people are rich simply because they've been playing and crafting for years. It still blows my mind to see some crafters who've been working hard day in day out for 5 years + I still see the name names dominating the market board. That's some crazy dedication. I remember some people used to make a lot of money flipping houses. God, I remember hating the housing system. It feels so far away now. I remember hearing a story where someone sold a house for like 4,000 real life dollars. And another who sold one for several BILLION gil. When I see numbers like that I kinda feel bad I just let my mansion go for nothing, lol. But I wasn't playing, so it didn't feel right to sit on it for no reason. I still keep an active sub, and I'll play the MSQ, but I've retired for basically everything else, lol. Half this game feels like a foggy memory. A dream of a place long long ago.

I did find that up until a month or so ago the raw mats on timers for the newest crafted gear we’re selling really well as you needed pentamelded fully kitted gatherers to get them (which I had) so I made a fair few million on them in a somewhat short space of time, so I think that’s worth doing early in a patch for some cash, but it’s not a long term solution to getting rich

The only problem with furniture market is that it does saturate very quickly and items sell rarely, so it’s extremely hard to compete with a lot of people in it. It’s not sustainable advice also because of how sparse housing is. Most players do not decorate or own property 😅. So people who buy are few and if people who sell are many you have the same issue he explains with end game gear. But at least with end game gear almost everyone needs it 😅

I used to make a lot of gil crafting lamps in shb then the market was ruined in endwalker so I tend to look now and then for different markets I can monopolise on but I don’t have a fixed item rn

Extremely easy gil purely from battle: Adventurer in Need from the Daily Roulettes

If you have access to an FC, level that and get the ship/submersible part recipes. Those are eeeeexpensiveeeeee Hopefully that will be extended to private estates

There is 1 point all these videos don't mention (because they don't want everyone to do it). And that is that the richest among the playerbase have countless alts on every server on the same DC (and probably even multiple DC's nowadays). They use a few of their characters to craft a ton of (mainly) glamours and ex-trial weapons that everyone wants. Anything revealing or super flashy will suffice. Hades weapons, bikini's or even the frontier clothing for example. They use all the alts to have hundreds, if not thousands, of selling spots. Second thing they do is undercut every serious MB opponent to death. You just do the -1 but they do -100k. Until you go below mat price, and they buy your item up to resell it again themself. You discover this and get discouraged. Just a tiny dent in their billions of gil pocket to make up for the long term. Actually, Zepla's server and DC has multiple of these people. Look up the items yourself and you will see a pattern among all the server in our DC. Same people, everywhere. Many webshops or food ordering companies irl do exactly the same. Such low prices, normal establishments cannot even compete. These companies tend to have negative profit for the first few years until all competition is gone. Then they up the prices again. I actually think SE should do something about this. I don't care that they are rich. But I can't imagine the devs meant for the market to work like this.

"Gardening is a great way to make gil." MUST BE NICE TO HAVE A HOUSE... :(

I have an extra T-Rex mount horn from Eureka, I was sad to learn that it's unsellable/untradeable. I'm saving it with hope that one day I can do something with it. I can't bring myself to discard it.

1:55 I suppose if you don't want to level crafters/gatherers, and you don't want to level blue mage, there's always bunny farming in Eureka.

GC seals if you want quick gil buy duck bones they sell at any vendor for 360 a piece so 100 is about 36k gil its not a lot but adds up quick

10:50 this actually matters quite a lot because you only need a fraction of a fraction of active players to be doing this in order for it to matter. I saw it happen in bdo myself. Other mmos I tried to do the methods in the videos but saw tons of people there before me or I was just losing profit.

I have one crafter and one gatherer at max lvl, and made most of my money through ishgardian restoration crafting. Other than that I get little chunks here and there through selling soil that I get with poetics, glamour prisms that I get with grand company seals, and crafting mats that I get with tomestones from last tier. Granted, i don't have a huge amount of money (about 60 million), but I'm never on the verge of going broke, you know?

90 millions poor?!!! Whatt?!!!

I gathered for 6 months straight so i could buy my medium before the housing changes (thanks for being a rich world, cactuar lmao), and since then.....boy do i hate gathering LMAO. i make my retainers do it. however, i will ALWAYS craft leveling gear. just make things down the list. nothing too fancy.

Yesterday someone did a macro saying they pick pocketed me a million gil. I said I'd never had a million gil in my life and later my friend I was hanging out with gave me a million gil. x.x lol They said they can make it back in 2 days. But my way of making gil is as follows. Become a cook, find a vendor that sells dodo roasters and stuffing. I discovered this when I joined an FC that had a vendor I could buy this at. You buy those for less than 100 gil then craft yourself a starlight dodo. Now, this might sell on the market board for 2,000 gil but who has time to wait someone to buy that? Sell it back to the vendor for 150 and double your money. You can craft as many as you can afford. You can't mass craft them, they have to be manually done but there's a button eventually that'll do this in one press. It's a slow process but it works. It also has the unintended consequence of if you tell anyone you're doing this they might be so upset by it they try to pay you to stop. So that's my funny way of making gil I found all on my own. 😂

Love your relaxing banter. great advice. 👍

When the OCE servers dropped I wanted to corner the level 81-90 Pants market. I can say that this was a great way to lose my free 1 Mil Gil, Highly recommend

In Heavenward I made millions from Diadem and desyth to get wootz ingots, good times (thank you to the crafter mains on Phoenix at the time for helping us buy an FC house. I actually still know the names buying my mats)

I flip the market board. It takes some knowledge and doesn’t make me “rich” (I usually sit between 3-30 mill) but I never struggle with Gil either. AND I don’t have to craft or grind content. Ctrl+V 😉

My fc mates go to balmung to make money, first they go to uldah, then they say in chat that they'll take off their clothes for gil. 5 minutes later They walk away with millions..

Also all it takes is 4 people in the know to flood your severs market with a specific item. So yes the videos do make a difference. After he released this video I saw windows flood the market

The real truth about how whales make billions of gil is they have a lot of retainers for more slots to sell stuff. When you can sell 160 things versus 40 it's not hard to make more gil

Be sure to cap your tomestones and when a patch drops sell the crafting materials.

Hey Zepla, what server you run in? I just started made it to HeavensWard enjoying the story for the first time. Primal/ Exodus

I was using this method to make money since I started playing over a year ago (pre-EW) so now that video has given me more competition on the mb, unfortunately. But I knew it would happen eventually lol

I do know one person who makes around 100-200 mil every new raid tier release on selling the new gear but it's so much effort it just isn't worth it

Reselling dyes is how I usually make a crapton of money on my alts and even on my main if I'm feeling like it. I'm not even selling the fancy dyes like beast tribe dyes or anything... I literally go to the dye vendor in any main city and sell crap like ink blue dye for 700g each when you can buy it for 216. Its absolutely absurd how much you can sell even the most basic of dyes for on the MB. Pretty much any post I see asking how to make money I've told to just go resell dyes. Its still weirdly viable market even to this day, lol.

I just started playing and love crafting and gathering :)

If you want to make gil while "playing the game", do unreal trials. The 600 faux leaves mounts are worth like 10 mil each.

if 90 mil Gil is poor then I'm like in poverty or something

I was sitting at 50 mil at the beginning of the expansion and with the new members to my FC and those wanting to raid I have dropped to 23mil after never really spending gil. I always tell my FC mates, "I really have no reason to have this much gil besides helping the homies"

Even just leveling up my toon and the occasional splurge on the market board (which happens alot ) I'm sitting around 50k gil and I'm only lvl 40

A bit of exception, Japanese data center are super competitive so price can drop very quick if you are slow

I have well over 2 billion Gil and bought large houses for members of my FC. I made Gil crafting very boring low level items. The key is consistency, especially with all of the market board bots.

I actually enjoy gathering, but crafting not so much, I get annoyed at having to juggle my inventory. But doing Fates is also a good way to make Gil, the items you get with scripts there sell for good sums. But to get the big Gil there is no way around it, it takes a lot of time. Casual players like myself never get rich

I've long given up on leveling crafters/gatherers for the purposes of making money. Market board shit just requires too much time and effort. While actually playing the game what I usually do is do roulettes (obviously) and roll Greed on gear drops then just vendor them off (make sure you uncheck "automatically add acquired gear to armory chest" in your character settings since that's a good way to completely fill it with trash). As well, after you've already bought all the tomestone gear for each role, you can go to Idyllshire and buy Goblacquer or Goblinol and just vendor it off. You can convert a max capacity of 2,000 Poetics into 12,800 gil. There are obviously some items you could probably get more from hawking on the Market Board, but like I said I'd rather not deal with that. Obviously, I'm not mega-rich by doing this, I only have like 3mil gil. But I don't raid or anything so it's enough to cover my expenses, buying a crafted gear piece or two to bump my ilvl or splurging on a glam item.

Server jumping when buying stuff is a great way to save money. Also a good way to make money as most people are too lazy to jump servers to save money. You should use crafting and gathering to save money for personal use. Not consider it as your primary source of funds.

I mostly just sell stuff my retainer brings me, maps, and drops I get from whatever content I'm doing. Sometimes I sell housing items, but I didn't do too much for the 45ish million I have right now, and I do actually spend it on stuff I want.

I quit FFXIV a while back but I use to have around 200mil worth of Gil by doing content that no one did anymore. And selling the contents within since no one had it nor bothered to grind for it. Another way I made easy money was investing in a house and gardening, which is a passive thing unlike Gathering which is active. I barely did treasure maps and such because it's too RNG and a waste of time. But I did have CAP GC Seals at least 3 times a day from PvP and made easy seals from that as well. Edit: Haha just watched more of your video and seen you mention that you made most of your gil from Gardening rather than Gathering. Glad I'm not the only who who become a gillionaire from Gardening passively and just have to log on to water them and harvest and sell. lol

I’m lvl 90 on all DoH DoL classes and I don’t really make money fast. I’m not dedicating myself to it enough/I just don’t know what to make lol.

I used to use Ashe10s ffxii guides way back in the day!

There is "Window of oppotunity!" 🙂Idea to put gil amount on the top of the head was funny!

I did manage to make a profit of 60mil during the first two-three days of the patch :3 not rich rich but def richer then i was with my 19mil i spent a year an a half amassing from 200k x3

The problem with deep dungeon runs is that you need people with you to do that. I wish I was good enough to be able to solo that stuff.

I found your channel because of your gardening videos.

Can you garden without having a house

if i'm hurting for money i just buy whatever the weekly fashion thing is from a vendor and sell it for 10k more on the market board lol they sell like CRAZY, i can't keep up with it lol

There is making Gil and there is making Gil. If you want to make a reasonable amount of Gil consider the following : level a Culinarian and Botanist and craft food, since food is always in demand its a consumable and its not only used by loggers and end-game raiders. (Alchemist can make Potions, but those are only used mostly in raiding and end game content, so the demand is not that great) Also you don't need Penta-meld gear to sell the latest Ilvl food, Script gear is easy to get and gets you over the mark you need to hit. Do your daily Roulette's as the class in need, that's a simple yet an effective way to make around 100k Gil a day, its not much, but it covers a lot of expenses. Don't stock pile Tomestones, Poetics - buy gear, sell for seals, buy seal mats / glamour prism's. Astronomy - Again, crafting mats, stuff used for consumables is always a solid option. Run unsync dungeons, lesser loot, but with a good combat class, you can get plenty of gear to sell for seals for the time invested, for me, Shisui of the Violet Tides is the best ratio. (NOTE : Dont turn in weapons for seals, they sell for over a 1k to a normal vendor.)

I’ve had someone willing to pay 500k each person just to help him get all the chest tokens from running p5-8 normal. One of the easiest 500k I’ve made. So yes convenience really does sell.

I found a weirdly special way to make my money, lvl 50 and now 60 Primal Weapons Namely the Mighty Thunder weapons from Ramuh, lightning ones and the Demon lvl 60 ones from whatshiscentaur face, Zurvanite guy. Halfway in ShB when I was new and leveling crafting, doing research and googling mats I realized there could be a lucrative way to make gil by crafting cool weapons people want. I can gather myself its pretty quick and easy, craft the ingots, wood bits or w/e myself too with half the mats bought with company seals (And unlike others, Im apparently the weird one greeding items by default if not just needing and then turning it into company seals from dungeons??????) So I dont run out of mats, the only rare mat I need is the trial specific one, from Ramuh. Levin Orbs, in this case Large Levin Orbs. I farmed Ramuh Extreme on my SAM, within 55 seconds I'd manage to kill him, get 3 drops, disenchant the ring, weapon and extra weapon drop (that we now got in Endwalker) and get 3 chances at a large levin orb. One orb is all it takes to craft a Mighty Thunder weapon, that on large demand could go from 100k-150k per wep, or 50k at minimum if theres loads of them. But the lvl 60 demon ones? I can farm that on my Reaper now in Endwalker, kill him within 2 minutes (or sooner if I got the DMG to skip his interlude phase) and get two chances at his zurvannite carapice by disenchanting again, and the Demon weapons can sell for 200k+ cause they look sick af. And over like 2 years I must've made over 150 mil, I got 65 mil right now and spent the rest on, stuff. So I just keep doing that, plus selling a few specific furnishings that always seem to sell well around 50-80k per pop and are easy to craft, you can get the basic mats from beast tribe vendors with some reputation grinding. Despite being a new player starting in Feb 2020, I got the hang of the crafting, what you get from where and made my mullah lol. Im already planning with next expansion after EW, I'll be able to grind Tsukiyome trial and make those Lunar weapons cause those sell like mad already. 300k+

Some times you just get lucky and find a weird niche market for random shit...bi was clearing my inventory and price checking everything before vendoring it all away, and found antelope horns selling for 5-10 k PER item! How? What? Why? I dunno but I made a small fortune before it collapsed to 5 gil a piece lol

How I made a fortune in XIV? Leveled a bunch of classes in Bozja and over time got lots of haircut patterns there that sold for millions.

1:10 are you serious right neow? You telling me they give you free tp tickets now? Wish that was there when I was in ARR ;_;

doing 6.2 material gathering rotation+spiritbond farming as i watch this :') thats my ez brainless money making

If I have to log in consistently to babysit my gil making, then I don't want gil

10k gil for soils. 300 to 500k avg for map runs. This is not alot at all

crafting used to be my go to before they gutted the gil reward for the coffee biscuit leves =(

Love me some Zepla, but I can't mentally handle how many times she'll pause a video the first watch. lmao

Now I can understand why some item on the board have ridiculous prices sometimes 🤦🏽‍♂️.

I feel as if i say how to get gil on a public platform that, that method of making gill will be flooded and the prices would depreciate.

I got only 800k with me....i got a few mil at my retainer but never over 30mil....

Just to illustrate how generous this game is with gil, I'm an office worker who usually only has 3 hours (at most) to play this game during a weekday and that's just enough time to finish all my daily's before going to bed. Cut to the early half of Heavensward and I was already sitting on millions. Unsurprisingly, earning money here is simply about having good financial decisions and consistent sources of income (both passive and active).

There is, in fact, a TOS violation that doesn't just copy the lowest amount to clip board, it literally automatically one gil undercuts the price of the item by hitting the compare prices button.

Just watch the spiffing Brit FF14 video.

I came over from ESO and tried playing. My question is does the combat get better than when you're starting out? It bored the hell out of me.

Do Haukke Manor as BLU and sell the fine wax you get, takes 1 min and they sell for 10k gil a piece. Can do it as a regular job but BLU is king

90k not enough? Holy god! I never even got to 10k and I've been playing for 3 years!

8:30 **thumbs up**

The way I made gil was to buy the cheapest consumables I could find across all servers, then sell it on my own server during peak hours. I could have crafted it myself, I even have a fully penta melded set to do so but crafting it yourself (like all the other methods people propose) takes a buttload of time, much more than people want to realize. This method all depends your server economy, I won't discredit the fact I did this during the wow exodus and played on Spriggan which had the exp bonus for new players. If the market price across servers has been equalized, then you're shit out of luck lol, better get to grinding.

if heavy gamers play 18h per week, what am I with arount 40?

Ha. A watched ur gardening vid 2 days ago😂

Honestly I passively make my gil by running adventure in needs for my roulette, sell off materia,, grind somr90 dungeons each and sell 2k tombstones to random who are offering like 300k for tombstone mats.

I know at least how you can get my gil: I started collecting Orchestrion rolls and holy boy are they sometimes expensive...

"I'm poor. I only have 90 million gil." 🖕❤

I liked Jolsn's video!

i just run ventures and have 90m gil.

Im literally struggling to get past 2million?

You truly want to know how LAZY people are? I literally walk up to the vendor in Lominsa, I buy 99 mineral water, I turn around and sell it in my retainer...I choose a price WAAAAY over what it's worth (It literally sells for 4 gil but people on the market sell for 60) and boom. People eat that shit up. Literally RIGHT NEXT TO THE MARKET BOARD THEY COULD BUY IT CHEAPER. It even tells you what it's worth when you scroll over it. I have different ways now but that was a fun way to scam the market when I was new. Got like 36k every few hours honestly.

Cries in 300k

only 90? oh poor girl, i only have 52 mil...must be rough

I make most of my money through crafting, but only because I WANT to craft and may as well profit from it. DoL/DoH main life. xD It's definitely not a get rich quick route, but it's enjoyable for me and I don't have a lot I want to spend gil on, so I honestly feel like the best way to make money is by finding something you enjoy doing and figuring out how to profit from that activity. That way it's never a chore, or a grind, or something you dread logging in for day after day.

All you have to do is camp Lord of Onzozo and get Kraken Club. Sell 3 of those at 300mil each and you will cap on Gil! Easy.

I used a macro to push a macro in game to craft when I would go to bed...

I thought I was rich with 65 mil gil. Then I bid on a large house and I'm down to 22 mil gil. I feel broke. I'm in penny pincher mode!

If you're between 10-15 million gil, you'll be fine. That's more than enough to get by.