Zero Delay USB Arcade Encoder | Review & Playtest

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The "XCSource Zero Delay" USB Joystick Encoder, also known as the Bosega CY-822A, the "USB Joystick" and a whole host of other names is the cheapest arcade control encoder going. Lets take a closer look at it.
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@wlbear2570 6 лет назад

I bought several of these boards for various arcade bartops. Never failed

@SimmeringPotpourri 6 лет назад

The fact that you saved the old parts for the joystick to put it back to it's original state makes you aces in my book.

@RMCRetro 6 лет назад

Thanks, we can't be destroying Comp Pro's!!

@bland9876 6 лет назад

I wanna hack an icade to USB and I would just sell the board on ebay so if somone was repairing one and wanted to use the original board (idk y) then there you go

@caseyryback6932 4 года назад

Bought one of these for a simple button box for FC3. Works like a charme. The fact that i can turn the analog Joystick into 4 more buttons with the mode option makes it 16 Buttons in total. I love it.

@atomipi 5 лет назад

For most of the wired spade connectors where they go on the back of the switches pin - you press the side of the connector when you want to slide it off - this pushes a small lever, and allows the spade terminal to slide off the button.. it has a tiny metal lever catch on it to stop it falling out :)

@johnmarshall8395 5 лет назад

Hey RMC! Amigos contributor John Marshall here. Just found this video when looking up info on this board. I just bought a Happ trackball to make a custom controller for Golden Tee, Centipede and Crystal Castles, among others. Great video!

@RMCRetro 5 лет назад

Nice one John. I was playing golden tee at an arcade just last week. Great fun

@martinh4982 6 лет назад

Worth noting that the XCSource kits come in two flavours: One with no Sanwa/Seimitsu joystick cable but 20 of the other cables, and one with a Sanwa/Seimitsu joystick cable but only 16 of the other type.

@tdp2612 3 года назад

Nearly 4 years later, I'm using one of these just as a controller for a couple switches, simply because I'm hopeless with electronics and its easier than using an Arduino, plus cheaper. Absolutely fine so far, although I feel like I'm under-utilising it so I'm thinking about making a button box just so I can make use out of the other connectors

@timothyvandyke9511 3 года назад

Currently looking at using old keyboard switches to make myself a usb joystick keyboard pretty excited :D

@lobitome 5 лет назад

I haven't used mine yet, but am glad to find a video of the exact board I have. Building 2 systems.

@Xealous 6 лет назад

I made a 4 button Bishi Bashi controller with this board. Completely flawless performance!

@CutandColorDude 4 года назад

Thank you for the video. Getting my kit in mail soon. I will update you

@iRDaBrit 6 лет назад

Oh god. I loved my Comp pro joystick. Lasted for years. Miss it.

@user-yv2cz8oj1k 4 года назад

Recreate it with an arcade joystick, a few arcade buttons, and one of these boards, put it all in a small wooden box. Easy replacement of parts means it will probably outlive you. :D

@jasonjones4591 3 года назад

I’ve built several arcades and used these, simple easy and just works

@andrewpaulakis7202 7 лет назад

Awesome review and very helpful!

@roasty80 6 лет назад

Used one for years. Work perfect

@ATK10155 Месяц назад

Thank you much. I'm using this to create a Button/dash box for iRacing.

@rgray318 4 года назад

EDIT: I answered my own question. Looks like I will need to dedicate a single switch in order to always have access to the POV Hat function. I can rewire the leds on my joystick in order for it to show both power and proper Hat mode. I was worried this device wouldn't work for a standard PC joystick, but I see now with proper modifications it most definitely should work.

@MentalPolution 6 лет назад

I bought one to convert a nes advantage to a standard usb controller and it worked great! awesome price and it works as it should.

@zoltanhajdu7311 6 лет назад

Hi there! I have the same configuration and i set up my arcade DIY unfortunatley both of the joystick has the same error. The UpLeft and DownRight directions do not work. Could you help me?

@aaalbert 5 лет назад

Could I use this board to build something like a flight sim joystick? Couldn't find any info on that

@zgn-2 6 лет назад

Thank you so much !!!! I didn't find any tutorial for this controller before ! Thank you !!!!!

@michaelsmith792000 6 лет назад

hi used this to make an arcade stick to use on my fire tv running on retro x frontend fire tv picks it up and you can map the buttons inside the app works grate it is also plugin to a USB hub

@ebayseller6040 4 года назад

mine didnt come with the wire for the joystick. I tried using the single wires but my sanwa joystick has a pcb and just one single black ground wire. I daisy chained all the direction wires but it still wont work. buttons work fine so the board is good. is there anything else to try here?

@cassiophone 10 месяцев назад

For some reason my joystick only works when I connect it to the regular button inputs, but it doesn't work when connected to the joystick inputs. Any ideas?

@2ndLastJedi 2 года назад

Can a multi position rotary be added to this board? I just want it to hit a button on right turn and a different button on left turn.

@anothernoob9110 3 года назад

3:35 My hitbox fightstick build had a problem precisely because of that, when it's on POV Hat mode(Green LED ON), if I pressed LEFT, DOWN, and RIGHT at the same time it would give me UP LEFT even if I didn't even have a button wired to UP, but clicking on Mode making it change to Joystick(Red LED ON) would fix it. I still had to set up those 4 directional buttons specifically as joystick input on Steam Big Picture mode tho, emulators too now that I'm remembering it. As an board for an standard arcade joystick build it would basically right off the bat even on POV Hat mode, there's just this very small inconvenience if you want to make a hitbox that you need to be aware of. But given the advantages an hitbox offers, for this cheap of a price it's a moot point.

@ReeGaLeiToR 6 лет назад

Hi! I have the same usb encoder and i have the push button with 4 legs… if possible use the power of USB connector?

@gerardosiete 8 месяцев назад

So, in the case where 2 buttons have to be pressed at the same time for super power movesm would the problem be the encoder or the buttons themselves? Every button works and regular moves work... only when 2 have to be pressed at the same time.

@nikrbawker 3 года назад

how does the turbo or auto fire function? That's what led me to the video. Might need to buy a toggle switch for that?

@Marcin79W 3 года назад

Can I use a pot instead of joystick? I'd like to have two separate pots, to control different axis, instead of one joy. What pot would I need?

@nko4319 7 лет назад

I used one of these boards, without the plastic connectors, in a handheld I built for my kid. They're cheap and they work great

@matthewfairbrother6348 6 лет назад

I just saw this at my local electronics store. all the same markings and circuitry --- for $30. and is packaged with only 10 cables. this now reminds me to look for reviews before i purchase.

@gamingit1 11 месяцев назад

So i want to use this board to put ignition key and use it in ets2. So im wondering do i need to change any of controls or is it going to work on its own?

@Snugggg 3 года назад

it seems you can get 4 full range analog axis out of these if you remove the resistors on the board.

@johnparis2339 4 года назад

Would this work for a single button? I am looking for something I can hook a single button to, and the computer recognize it?

@itsk3hiphop 6 лет назад

Trying to set one of these up. But for some reason whenever I press one button, the computer recognizes it as pressing all the buttons! Anyone have any similar issues? I bought two and tried swapping the board out, same thing. Hooking it up to an old arcade cabinet with a PC in it.

@yammifletcher 4 года назад

I installed this board into my Mad Catz Street Fighter Tournament Edition Round 2 Fight stick for PS3. I used it on my older PC. On newer PCs it doesnt work anymore because of that oldschool UHCI - USB - Protocol. I didnt use the auto-fire-mode , so i connect only 10 buttons and the joystick. It works perfectly, no delay or lag. In my opinion its a cheap and good choice for Arcade-Sticks. It came with USB-Cable ( i used the longer original of my fightstick ) , 12 connector cables for Stick and buttons ( i connected the 5 pin Sanwa cable instead ) for around 10 Euros!! I did this conversion because i couldnt find a xbox version of the mad catz. The only issue with the original Sanwa-Joystick cable was that i had to turn the joystick 180 degrees. That means you have to unscrew 4 screws - thats it.

@bazza5699 6 лет назад

so i got my pack in the post today. put it together and the only difference was that my comp. pro. was a leaf sprung kind, not microswitched.. however i connected it the same way.. and then fell at the final hurdle.. i got my up/down confused when connecting the leads to the board, had to take them out and re-seat them.. also found that both fire buttons couldn't be connected to one source. otherwise very happy to use my joysticks again. If i have a complaint, it's the same was yours, the cables were too small and I'd like a box of some sort to mount it in. I think i'll use a matchbox! Many thanks for this video.. it helped me out.. especially when looking what sockets you placed the leads into on the controller..

@RMCRetro 6 лет назад

You're welcome and thanks for watching I'm glad it helped you

@adrianborboran3380 5 лет назад

Hi can i use a dual axis joystic in that board?

@user-yv2cz8oj1k 4 года назад

Any chance of covering which connector is which and what type of button to use on each? So little information about this board.

@LH74 Год назад

Is it possible to connect a 2" trackball to the board?

@chrumczyk5494 4 года назад

Does it feature x-input? I guess not, cause I would love to use it in my stick for steam shmups :)

@quangle-vv4zf 3 года назад

what is the polartiy of wires when you hooked it up to the micro switches ? thanks

@emulatorretro 6 лет назад

can you use it in reverse mode so you can use usb controllers on arcade?

@rgbcrafts 2 года назад

Why I'm not subscribed yet? A whole 5 years watching back and forth and now I see I'm not subscribed. 🤦‍♂️ Fixed. Thanks for your review. I'm about to test mine in here and decided to look for some light on the matter.

@AndrewHelgeCox 2 года назад

03:30 Did you hook up a button or a switch to the mode connection? It looks like you used a toggle switch there.

@thqp Год назад

What type of plugs do the micro switches use? XHP? I seem to have lost a couple cables, and I might need to buy replacement.

@nerdMike 6 лет назад

Seems to be easy, and maybe I can attach 2 of this to a Pi2/3. But.. where can I find compatible and SMALL buttons? Thanks

@tapoutms5608 5 лет назад

RetroManCave good video I got a question I got the same board but I don’t know where is the connector for the LED’s goes please help

@bazza5699 6 лет назад

A-ha!.. just ordered one of these, fingers crossed :) thanks

@lordplenty 7 лет назад

I've used two of those - one in arcade stick, another in universal converter (two 9 pin sockets driving 2 C64 joysticks at once, or both connected to drive one fightstick). Boards work really well, but quality can be an issue (I had some cold joints on one).

@moth.monster 6 лет назад

the led part wires up separately, so just get a separate board to control your led

@capt.a.suwaiket7993 Год назад

Hello Thank you for bringing the subject.. Since operating system (windows) recognize up to 128 switches is there any way to connect two or more boards to get 24 or more micro switches using this controller Regards

@aenhsbestshots3505 4 года назад

sir do you have a link where to download arcades games using this usb encoder or perhaps a software that could be used in the classroom. tnk u

@DavideBettin 4 года назад

Can u connect in a Mi Box? I did that but it doesn't recognize it

@bobparnell1501 8 месяцев назад

What it the device between the ARC and the PC? it looks like the most important piece of kit needed to get the ARK to funbction. Ive googled it and cant find anything on it. Is it a decoder or driver?

@PixelOutlaw 4 года назад

I'm interested in those missing sockets and spots for resistors... Anyone know what they're for?

@Noobsault 6 лет назад

I made a arcade stick using a korean lever and some seimitsu buttons. Works really well and is like 50€ cheaper than other options.

@joeatkins6265 4 года назад

Anyone have any experience attaching rotary encoders to the board? Any success?

@user-yv2cz8oj1k 4 года назад

I plan to make either a hitbox or standard control box using one of these, some 2.8 mm connector buttons, some very short height joystick, and two beautiful £3 chopping boards I bought. Should come in at a cost to me of around £32 as I already have the drill bits for this.

@truffeltroll6668 Год назад

Did you do it? Any Tipps for a beginner?

@deathshaker0026 4 года назад

I love using them. Easy to use.

@red2k69 5 лет назад

I just got this board and I found out that the mode button does switch to the POV hat instead of the X/Y axis as described in the video, but it doesn't SAVE this to the board. The next time it powers up the default X/Y axis mode will be enabled. Just a heads up for those wanting to use it in a closed cabinet and don't want to add a dedicated button somewhere just to switch modes EVERY SINGLE TIME you use it..... *sigh*

@SirMorganFlint Год назад

Changing J1 to the other position will make it start in analog mode. It's also possible to change J1 for an SPDT switch

@MarkSRiddle 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for the video, does it support potentiometers by any chance even one or two for X and Y? Cheers

@bilskruvaren 7 лет назад

Can i use one of the connectors for microphone with a PTT?

@antonivi8968 6 лет назад

Anyone know how this PCB would work out if you needed x-input? I have a stick that doesn't support 360 or Xbox One but still supports x-input so it seems your pcb doesn't necessarily need to support those consoles to have it.

@theengineer9910 7 лет назад

Ipac was confusing shit, used one when i was in 6th grade, no idea what i was doing

@dinky19810 2 года назад

Can I use led encoder with regular non-led buttons?

@BeWrong666 6 лет назад

Its advertised as a ps4 pcb also. Have u ever tried it?

@gravious 6 лет назад

awesome video, very informative! :)

@101graffhead 6 лет назад

this answered a lot of my questions thanks

@RMCRetro 6 лет назад

Neelu you're welcome

@sergeantmars2640 3 года назад

can you also assign an Axis so like for flying helicopters or is it just on and off?

@kiwimotorcycles8711 3 года назад

they look brilliant to use for making control simulators for trucks or planes setting up buttons ect but i noticed they can not do control axis sadly

@DrFillyBlunt 3 года назад

Can I use rotary switches, and momentary toggle/rocker switches with these?

@harryhttu4693 6 лет назад

How do I wire it for my 2 player button

@_Seagie 3 года назад

if I buy HAPP controls, do I need a 2 pin or 5 pin or 4.8mm usb kit?? Thanks

@rrichter6781 7 лет назад

made a fighting stick for it and it works very well

@louster7790 6 лет назад

Das Richter does it work for pc and ps4 street fighter?

@kevinjking7026 2 года назад

Hmm, I'm planning on using one of these for something completely different. I'll use it in a Virtual Pipe organ to change registrations with pistons (buttons) under the keyboard. Commercial usb midi encoders can be expensive.

@lestat1uk 5 лет назад

Is this the dragonrise generic usb? As they are a bit of a nightmare using it in retropie

@MasterBlasta 3 года назад

Are’nt super responsive like jamma’s but they get the job done most of the time. They can glitch a bit (rarely) when pressing many buttons at the same time. It’s okey for entry level controls but don’t expect the best.

@robertdaves2739 6 лет назад

Thinking of starting my first DIY arcade stick. Are all encoders compatible with any system? (Asking for xbox one)

@Henrix1998 Год назад

Is the microchip under the black pad? Surely there has to be one

@DoubleD96203 3 года назад

does it work on ps3? Some source says yes but the manufacturer says no, can you identify it?

@jerryohhh 3 года назад

@rmc this board are really works for beatmania IIDX d.i.y controller with LED light.??

@akalyptos21 6 лет назад

what pins are for coin/credit and start?

@Magoo277 9 месяцев назад

Does this work with the nintendo switch?

@ErenAkkaya 4 года назад

can a game steering wheel, throttle, brake, clutch gear set be made using this thing? (google translate used)

@Darkz3ed 6 лет назад

Can you put 2 sticks and 6 buttons in this?

@kendarr 2 года назад

Is it possible to use an analog stick on these? it doesn't seem like it

@jamesazwan7946 2 года назад

Can this joystick use for android box?

@billdantes1640 6 лет назад

Is it possible to connect led buttons to this board and have the led light up? I see there are different boards that have 3 pin connectors that are meant for led buttons, But was curious if there is some way to get leds to light up with this particular board?

@RMCRetro 6 лет назад

This board would not send power to light up the LED's. You could perhaps use a combination of this board with the GPIO pins on the Pi to get the power to them? If you have some cash you could use something like an I-Pac Ultimate IO (www.ultimarc.com/ipac.html)

@markdeguzman1754 Год назад

Can i use this board for xbox 1st gen? Model 2005..

@danxepha4535 6 лет назад

I'm thinking of using this to build an arcade joystick for my PC. I was wondering what it is detected as in game? For example I use an Xbox One controller on my PC, so any in game prompts, menu commands etc are displayed as Xbox One A, B, X, Y etc coloured buttons. I was planning on making my joystick have 8 coloured face buttons for A, B, X, Y, LB, RB, LT, RT plus buttons on the back or side for the "back" and "start" buttons (also possibly an Xbox home button but that only brings up the "game bar" which I never use so might leave it off). But if the button names and colours don't match what's in game then I might do something different. Sorry for the long comment!

@moth.monster 6 лет назад

You could probably set it up with some sort of joystick to keyboard stuff

@safetyinstructor 4 года назад

Does this one work with toggle switches?

@ImbaSimbaToshimba 2 года назад

This encorder supports 3 position buttons?

@dna0814 3 года назад

Can this board be use to power led switch’s?

@Jh0nnY2k 3 года назад

Could you re-write one of these to xbox xinput signal?

@DavidAubin 3 года назад

I bought one of these and It is only showing up as one button in windows 10. Clearly this thing doesnt just work by plugging it in.

@kepi765 5 лет назад

Can you program the butten so, that you when you press it that on computer the letter a is pressed? thank you for answer

@RMCRetro 5 лет назад

Yes if you use a utility like "Joy2Key"

@EricDavidLaVoie1970 6 лет назад

Hello, I just received my encoder boards in today with 20 LED push buttons. I noticed i have exactly these boards shown in this video so I'm hoping you may be able to help. So my problem I'm having is my push buttons that came in my kit have 4 connectors on the bottom with no micro switch. The problem I see is that these encoder boards only have 2 pins/2 wires for each push button. Do you have any ideas how I can still use these encoder boards and get my led push button lights to work?

@RMCRetro 6 лет назад

Hey, I would suggest 2 legs are for the microswitch and 2 legs are for the LED to light up the button. The board will register button pushes but you'll need to supply power/ground to the LED legs using another power source if you want them to light up

@randon7694 2 года назад

would this work on a console

@AndresSalazararthub 7 лет назад

Hey There, is there a way to connect LEDs to this board? I have some 5-Volt LEDs for some of the buttons, but I'm not sure if I can use this board, since there's all 2 connectors and not 3 connectors. thanks!

@RMCRetro 7 лет назад

Andres Salazar I dont think so no, this is a cery basic board for control inputs only. Maybe try the Ultimarc PacLED64 for some fancy lights