I was chatting to a married couple at a bike night this week, they have petrol bikes, but they’ve just bought a DSR and a SR, one each. They both have the 14.4 batteries and were saying that they get 80 miles range at motorway speeds, and close to 150 miles range around town. They love them.
I'm beginning to see why they're becomming popular, although it's odd how the usual milage economics have been reversed with town riding giving the better range 🤔
As far as electric vehicles go, I think the FX is the only "green" vehicle on the road for now. It doesn't default to high current draw on home electric circuits, so even though it takes a long time to charge, the way it does it is very practical. -- As for the "throttle response" where you twist the throttle and it doesn't pull, I guarantee you, it's a software thing. -- As for the cost of the bike, if you compare it to a YZ450F, it's cheaper. -- As for combustion and electrification, I predict that we'll settle at 80% electric, 20% combustion. Where 25% of the combustion is still fossil fuel. That makes for a net of 5% total fossil fuel. That's fine with me, because right now, our fossil problems land us on a 30 year deadline of problems. Going to lower fossil use, the deadline will increase to about 200 years. So we can keep fossil for what it does best. -- NOAA graphed the CO2 in the atmosphere. The CO2 changes by approximately 10ppm within 5 months. That's all the plant life activating. Us humans add about 2 ppm every year. So, on a 66% fossil cut, (renewable grid with 20% electric transportation), we won't actually be able to successfully measure the CO2 change against the standard deviation in a very reliable way.
Very interesting. Aviation will be the fossil fuel stick in the mud for decades to come, because there are no other reliable means to produce the required uninterupted thrust needed for a long haul jet. No transport except walking is truely green, its all varying shades of brown, but right now I actually like EV bikes for the experience more than their green credentials, as they are really fun to ride and don't feel like a compromise in any way.
I can see you buying one in the not to distance future you seemed to love it like a small kid on his new bike, Thumbs up from me also i am in the process of buying a FXS 11kw Motorbike....Can't wait!
Personally I'm waiting for the planned Triumph electric roadster. The Zero are good bikes, but after owning a 4 wheeled ev since 2019, I really want DC fast charging
Welcome back dude 👍 😎 thought you were dead 💀😂😂 nice to hear your dulcid tone's don't fall off like TMF 🤔🤔 poor chap he will never live that down how is the R1 going on the track days 👍👍all good I hope 🏍️🏍️🏍️
Cheers. Oh yes I really felt for the poor bugger when he released that video. I can see how he did it though, as the torque is soooo strong right from the moment the wheels start turning
Welcome back Dave, you have been missed. Nice review, hope to see more reviews in the future. Would love to see you review the Zero SR/F (Horsepower - 110 bhp / Torque - 190 NM). The numbers look impressive. Other reviews say it feels like a “magic carpet” ride, would you agree? Once again Dave glad you are back, enjoying your insight and reviews as always.
Good to see you back 👍.....intresting vid and insight into elec bikes......I'd love to test one just to feel the difference and see if its something i could get on with because as you say......electric bikes are here. I'd like to think I could transistion to one rather than give up biking forever!
Thanks. It was just a shame that i only got a short ride, as I'd love to spend a day or two with one and really get to grips with it. There's definitely in them and they are genuinely good 👍
@@VeeFour Actually, I think that present batteries are OK for Motorcycles, bicycles and kick-scooters, but not for cars. I was also surprised by what you presented in this review and to be honest, I would like to see an extensive follow-up on the 2 bikes. It's not like I'm already thinking to buy one, but it's intriguing. I also think they will be an excellent choice for commuting. Hopefully, prices will go down in time too.
What concerns me is when filtering or riding in town where pedestrians don't look before crossing the road. The other concern I have is the cost of electric when the petrol consumption is far less. The government of the day take a massive amount of tax from petrol so I suppose the price of electric will increase to cover it. I like the electric bike and like you say this is the future at the moment. Perhaps if some sort of engine sound could be fitted it may make it safer to ride in the town's and when filtering. Great video by the way !!!
If I owned one of these, I'd seriously fit a peddle bike bell low down on the left mirror stem just for distracted pedestrians. After years amd years of both motorbike and peddle bike riding, I find that my now unconscious hazard perception, spots dangerous pedestrians before they become a problem. If you ride long enough and often enough, your eyes just pick out converging objects that are a danger to you. I agree, the government will definitely screw us on electric tax once the revenue from fossile fuels goes, and then it'll just be business as usual 😕
@@VeeFour Yamaha is a big player in the e-bicycle game, one that is mature and can exceed expectations. An easy fast 40 mile ride on a bike is something only an athlete could have done. I suspect, with the very sophisticated scooters and smaller machines, coming out of China, that someone like Honda will buy major stakes in one, or many, of these companies to jump start. In other news - Suzuki will update the sv650 with upside down forks LOL.
They have the new ZR/f which is about a close to an electric super naked as you can get. It'll destroy pretty much anything on the road from a standing start, but won't be as good in the corners or have anything like the top speed of a Tuono
The future is electric no doubt. The price is prohibitive is especially if you want an electric bike with more performance. The size as you state is also a problem. Recharging the bike at home in areas/countries that are not catering to electric very well (like my home country of Australia) will be bothersome. I will miss the sound of an combustion engine but its progress.
It's not all there yet, but once the big manufacturers join the party, we will see great bikes with usable range and performance at the right price. I'm looking forward to it 👍
@@VeeFour How many years are we looking at as far as the other big bike manufacturers getting into crashing the party and making the prices more affordable for the tuff working bloke on a pinch ? I would love to have one for my first motor bike no clutching or changing gears and reg high maintenance !!!!
No, that's not correct.All of the Zero range are waaaaay to powerful to be riden by unaccompanied learners in the UK, which restricts riders to 14hp. I am of course only speaking of the regulations as they relate to the UK, but It is my understanding that some of the range comply with the UK's A2 license requirements, in that they are 47bhp (35kw) or less, and that other bikes in their range can be supplied with a limiter to restrict them to comply with A2. However, you are not allowed to ride either of the bikes I tested that day unaccompanied on 'L' plates. Zero don't even market these bikes as learner bikes, and for the UK only make regerence to the above mentioned A2 compliance, but you still need to have passed your test to ride a bike unaccompanied on either of these on any kind of license. They're just small bikes, in very much the same way that say an MT03 is a small bike, but you can't ride one of those unaccompanied either
So in my mind, was it like getting out of shower without your trollies on (Yorkshire for underpants) and accidentally baking onto an electric egg whisk? Nooooooooooooo. First point, like electric cars free road tax will disappear when they become normal (cash cow for govt). Filling up well again, you put in £20 in petrol £16 is tax they again when they become the norm they get that from you another way (cash cow) and most important point, you plug it in to charge it, a gas fired power station is a massive "MASSIVE" carbon producing engine any way. I think it is the future but we are 10 years away. 120 range in summer you can knock 25% of in cold weather. And 120 miles is about an average ride out with the lads. Ooooooo I'd be bricking it about it breaking down. So in short if you could charge it up in 5 mins and get 250 miles and there were charging points not as rare as hens teath, I would look at one. Great video keep it up.
Yes, when they're the norm all the government grants and such will dry up and the price of leccy will go up massively I don't doubt, and the range and charging time aren't quite there yet to totally replace gas burners. However, it's a scientific fact (apparently) that burning fuel to generate electricity which is them used as motive power by a leccy motor, is much more efficient and produces less CO2 per mile than burning it in an internal combustion engine for motive power, so it's a net gain environmentally. Besides, range and environmental impact aside they're just bloody good bikes to ride 👍 Oh and we have trollies in Lancashire too 😂😂
Well I'm getting to the age it maybe an electric bike or a mobility scooter next. What about the energy to produce and dispose of battery?, I know what your saying I may need some convincing. I'll keep watching and see how you get on.
