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ZHIYUN WEEBILL S | Review | Our favourite Travel Gimbal for the BMPCC 6k and EOS R 

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Here is my review of the Zhiyun weebill S. Our new favourite gimbal for our bmpcc6k and Eos R.
Get yours : amzn.to/2rLEdUG
Over the past few weeks we have been using the Weebill S and think it is safe to say that this our new favourite one.
If you’re into filmmaking you probably tried, owned or at least considered gimbals. We used to use the Ronin S a lot and whilst we loved it it was a bit on a heavy side and not very travel friendly on some occasions. But we found that the Weebill S was the one that ticked the most boxes when it came to what we were looking for in a gimbal.
Gear used in the video:
Zhiyun weebill S gimbal (Image Transmission Pro Package) : amzn.to/2rLEdUG
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Smallrig Weebill plate : amzn.to/300Ixfr
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Eos R Cage : amzn.to/2T3UBeo
In this video I will talk about what we use it for, how to balance the BMPCC 6K, why we like about the Weebill S as well as things that could be improved.
I decided to use with the cameras and lenses I would normally pick for gimbal work.
Let me know if you have any question :).
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@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 4 года назад
Here is my review of the Zhiyun Weebill S gimbal. Which gimbal do you guys use ? Time stamps: How we use the Weebill S - 1:35 Things we love about the Weebill S - 2:23 Things that could be improved - 5:08 How to balance the BMPCC6K - 5:39 Would I recommend the Weebill S - 6:50 Cheers, Flo
@YounusYousuf
@YounusYousuf 4 года назад
i was looking for a honest review for weebill s + bmpcc6k ssetup. glad i found this.subscribed
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 4 года назад
Thanks for the support :) !!
@meeno_the_man
@meeno_the_man 4 года назад
Beautiful stuff and smoothly informative. Many thanks.
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 4 года назад
Thanks a lot, glad you like it !! :)
@howlandneal
@howlandneal 4 года назад
Thanks for the links, I just picked up the plate and weights for my BMPCC and Weebil S from your page here. Thanks!
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 4 года назад
Thanks for the support, really glad I could help :) !!
@_eugenechia
@_eugenechia 2 года назад
was researching on this gimbal and saw this video to re-affirm my selection. Thank you!
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 2 года назад
Glad to hear, thank you for watching !!
@hwcentertainment
@hwcentertainment 3 года назад
Thanks for this amazing tutorial. Heavy lenses have always been a balance issue for me, thanks for the workaround.
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 3 года назад
Thank you !!
@benjaminespuche9734
@benjaminespuche9734 3 года назад
Your intro is the GOAT !!!!!
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 3 года назад
Haha thanks !!
@Native_Creation
@Native_Creation 3 года назад
Footage reminds me of using the Digital Bolex, also very nostalgic nowadays, wonderful review of the Weebill S with the BMPCC.
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 3 года назад
It’s funny I always wanted to get a Bolex :). Thanks !!
@TheLostKuma
@TheLostKuma 4 года назад
Awesome, I love my weebill S!
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 4 года назад
Thanks !! Sure is a cool and handy piece of gear :)
@madebyams
@madebyams 4 года назад
Luna Park and the ferry was such a fun part of the shoot :).
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 4 года назад
Sure was, keen to go back :) !!
@willvazquez3218
@willvazquez3218 3 года назад
Great video! I have an old Ikan EC1 and it is able to balance the Pocket 4K and 6K perfectly with prime lenses. I've even used the Tokina 11-20mm on it. The motors really struggle with the Tokina though and make a lot of noise. The EC1 is able to balance the Pockets because the horizontal roll-axis arm is adjustable and comes out enough to counter the width of the Pockets. The only thing is that it's dated and I want to be able to use the remote control features when I mount it on a boom pole or small crane. But I have made countless great shots with the Pocket 4K/6K with the EC1.
@aremin
@aremin 4 года назад
Cool video mate! Just got my Weebil S in this week. I was surprised that this tiny gimbal can hold a 6k camera. Cheers mate 🙌🏻
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 4 года назад
Thanks !! And yeah, sturdy little thing for sure.
@dcfanforlife533
@dcfanforlife533 3 года назад
Congratulations!! Do you need any other accessories to balance of fit the 6k on weebil s?
@gearframes3103
@gearframes3103 4 года назад
Nice review!
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 4 года назад
Thanks !!
@narrativearts8902
@narrativearts8902 4 года назад
Super informative beautiful video, thanks.
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 4 года назад
Thanks a lot !!
@avpfilms27
@avpfilms27 4 года назад
Awesome review!
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 4 года назад
Thank you !!
@YOUAREMYKIN
@YOUAREMYKIN 4 года назад
Great review! And am about to get a BMPCC6K. Question: what was your closest 2nd favourite gimbal? Ps. Really like the vibe of your videos. As I think I mentioned before.
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 4 года назад
Thanks a lot, glad you do !! I would say the Ronin since I used it quite a bit. Slightly different though.
@TheWorldofPierre
@TheWorldofPierre 4 года назад
Thanks, I have been looking at a gimbal for my BMCCP4K camera. I will wait for a sale.
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 4 года назад
Thanks for watching !! :)
@HimurraKenshi
@HimurraKenshi 3 года назад
Great Video, Thank you! :) It appears that you are using a Half cage for the setup, do you think the BMPCC can be balanced with a full cage + Prime lens (Samyang)?
@pixelcityart3554
@pixelcityart3554 4 года назад
Nice video! I was wondering when someone would manage to balance the bmpcc4/6k on this awesome gimble, this would be the only gimble I would consider buying... Thanks for the video, btw very nice shots! Got to love this vintage lenses.
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 4 года назад
Thanks a lot for the nice feedback !! And yes, those Contax lenses are awesome :)
@steveschnetzler5471
@steveschnetzler5471 4 года назад
Interesting solution with the clamp on weights. When I got an early gimbal, I found I had to custom machine adapters for almost all my cameras. it made using it a pain.
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 4 года назад
Yeah it works pretty well and it a very cheap option. You only need it for the bmpccs since they have a awkward shape. The Eos R balances very easily :).
@nikos22patra
@nikos22patra 4 года назад
nice vid, can you do a comparison with dji ronin s?
@Thenicolebus
@Thenicolebus 3 года назад
Hey there, I got a question. Can you use the 6 Pro on the Weebill with a full cage? I see you are using a half cage. Thanks!
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 3 года назад
I don't have it yet so not sure. It is quite big. Crane 2S might be a better option.
@Thenicolebus
@Thenicolebus 3 года назад
Thank you for your fast response, I got the Weebill together with my 6k pro without a rig. But let's get it balanced first😩.
@lahamada
@lahamada 3 года назад
It would be lovly if you made a "How to Balance" video using this particular gimbal with the BMPCC4k + Sigma 18-35 Lens. I've been trying and trying but there is no use...
@RodneyMorgan
@RodneyMorgan 4 года назад
Lovely review! I’m wondering, what aspect ratio is this video in?
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 4 года назад
Thanks !! It is 2:1 :)
@jamesjay1987
@jamesjay1987 8 месяцев назад
I have gimbal and glidecam. I clearly say that I only 3-4 times I used my gimbal in my works. Glidecam forever; easy setup, organic feel, no need battery.
@aaronw8525
@aaronw8525 4 года назад
Exactly the kind of video I needed as I have BMPCC4k and a Canon. Hey did you ever try the Contax Zeiss 28mm on your EOS R?
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 4 года назад
Not yet but planning to :)
3 года назад
I have been binge watching your videos, lots of good info. I have a BMPCC 4K and I’m thinking to get the weebill S. Is there a lens that can be used on the black magic that won’t require the counterweights? Thanks!
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 3 года назад
Thank you so much for the support !! I am not sure since the counterweights are used to balance the actual body of the camera. To be honest you don't really feel them. Pretty light package when you don't have to balance a big lens.
3 года назад
@@OfTwoLands thanks for the info!
@ReachFilms
@ReachFilms 4 года назад
First of all love your channel and can’t believe I wasn’t subscribed until now. That being said, in the short shots from the bmpcc6k there is microwabble in the footage, I had the same issue with my bmpcc4k and some bigger lenses when using the weebill s. I didn’t have micro wabble when using smaller lenses with the Blackmagic. Also when using lumix cameras the micro wabble is not present in a lot of setups and even easier to use just like your eos R.
@JeseeWalker
@JeseeWalker 4 года назад
Does anyone have more opinions on this before I drop my hard earned cash, ugh
@kolecava
@kolecava 4 года назад
Those cameras have better balance distribution (centre of gravity) in-body plus IBS. This can be overcomed with either OIS lens, changing motor parameters (less/more power) or re-balancing. P4K/P6K with heavier lenses is a BITCH to balance.
@ReachFilms
@ReachFilms 4 года назад
I did a video on using this gimbal actually from the same merchant, it is an amazing gimbal for the money, my goal is I did not want people to be surprised if they used heavy setups and the footage does not come out nearly as clean or buttery smooth as the lighter setups do
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 4 года назад
Thanks for watching and really glad you like our work :). I think yes if you intend only to use zoom lenses which is not very recommended with gimbals as always it can happen but I had no issue with primes. I will most likely use my Eos R for gimbal work most of the time on a job since the combo gimbal/AF is hard to beat. But you can definitely use the Pockets especially with primes. Cheers
@lutherpippen
@lutherpippen 4 года назад
Do you think this will work on the old bmpcc 1080p with a switronix 70 battery pack?
@SiloneulaFishingProductions
@SiloneulaFishingProductions 4 года назад
Nice review! Can you charge the bmpcc from the gimbal?
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 4 года назад
Thank you !! That is a good question actually, I don't think you can.
@abineshsrinivasan2638
@abineshsrinivasan2638 3 года назад
thanks for the video ! liked and subbed
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 3 года назад
Abinesh Srinivasan Thank you :)
@abineshsrinivasan2638
@abineshsrinivasan2638 3 года назад
@@OfTwoLands Does wireless image transmitter works with BMPCC6k ? Can it transmit 4k or 6k ?
@masimijork
@masimijork 3 года назад
HI! Im having problems connecting my BMPCC 4k to image transmission module. Is there any tutorial to that?
@santiagoguiastrennec811
@santiagoguiastrennec811 4 года назад
Amazing video. Short explanations but very clear ones. I literally just bought the Tilta Gravity G2X HOURS before you uploaded this video 😑. I’ve heard and seen some videos in which the Weebil S’s motors can’t hold the Pocket 4K with a Rokinon Cine DS prime lens and and a Samsung T5 SSD with the full cage, then the motors started “twitching” or they were not keeping up with the load. Thats why I bought the Gravity which was cheaper, but I still have my doubts hahah. Thanks for this great video! Keep it up!
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 4 года назад
Thanks a lot, really glad you liked it !! There is always something else haha. I tend to use very light setups for gimbal work so the Weebill S works great :)
@mattcarlson12
@mattcarlson12 3 года назад
So after some time now what is your "go-to" lens on the Weebill-S? I really enjoy your content!
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 3 года назад
Depends on the camera. 16-35 f4 for the Eos R and primes lenses for the bmpcc6k, the Zeiss 28 or 18 are a good option.
@kevinplatt
@kevinplatt 4 года назад
Thanks for the review. Seems the Ronin S is still a more suitable option for larger camera/lens combinations. Love the extras features of the Weebill S though...
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 4 года назад
Thanks for watching !! I think yes if you intend only to use zoom lenses which is not very recommended with gimbals as always. I had no issue with primes. I like the Ronin and used it for a couple of years but the weight was a bit much for long hours and the balancing/carrying wasn’t as easy since it had no locks. Both great products, I just like the Weebills because it is more convenient and does the same job with the two kits I use :). Cheers
@losmandu
@losmandu 4 года назад
Another plus point for using Ronin S is powering the camera from gimbal for hours.
@vineetsuthan
@vineetsuthan 4 года назад
I have been using the Big Brother the Crane3 for my BMPCC4K and its lot heavier than Weebill S. Crane 3 is surely big and it can be difficult one to carry both during the shoot and while Travel. For the Focus Motor, i have the Tilta Focus and i am still try to figure out on placing the focus motor on the lens.
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 4 года назад
I have heard good things about the crane but yeah I got the Weebill S for its size and weight. It sure does help when travelling and in general as well.
@totalbingshow8564
@totalbingshow8564 4 года назад
I hear after adding counter weight, it produces shaky footage.
@markyonline1
@markyonline1 4 года назад
I really like this gimbal, but I'm not too excited about using counterweights. Did you have to use all 300g, am I seeing this right?
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 4 года назад
It really is a great gimbal !! Yes, but only to balance the Sigma lens as it is quite a heavy one. I always use primes on gimbal so then only the clamp and one counterweight is enough.
@TheLostKuma
@TheLostKuma 4 года назад
When I use the smallrig plate (the one that we need to balance w/ the sigma 18-35) - i find that the screw that you turn in order to secure the the camera doesn't go in. Do you find this happens as well? I just use it without screwing it in properly as it's still quite secure, but it makes me worry.
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 4 года назад
You mean the counterweight doesn't screw in properly or the little knob at the front of the plate ?
@TheLostKuma
@TheLostKuma 4 года назад
@@OfTwoLands The little knob at the front of the plate (that was part of the gimbal originally). My smallrig piece doesn't seem to fit 100% perfectly, so I can't use the screw to properly lock it in.
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 4 года назад
@@TheLostKuma i think I know what you mean. It can be a bit fiddly with the Smallrig plate but it does work. It took me a few times to get used to it. It helps if you loosen as much as possible and practice without the camera first.
@TheLostKuma
@TheLostKuma 4 года назад
@@OfTwoLands Thanks for the tips, will try!
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 4 года назад
@@TheLostKuma No worries, happy to help :)
@joesheridan8135
@joesheridan8135 4 года назад
Which recording options do you have function to with that CFast card? Thanks,
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 4 года назад
All of them :)
@marchingmess
@marchingmess 3 года назад
Stupid question here...does the gimbal feed its battery power to the BMPCC 6/4K? Or would you need to attach a battery for long shoots?
@franklinmichael671
@franklinmichael671 3 года назад
If I already own it would you recommend I use it with the nucleus nano follow focus, or is there a good reason to buy the follow focus specifically made for that gimbal apart from the ease of mounting of the wheel?
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 3 года назад
Hard to answer this as I have never used the Nano. I think if it works for you already maybe try it with it first and see how you go. You can always get the specific one later on.
@franklinmichael671
@franklinmichael671 3 года назад
@@OfTwoLands Seems reasonable haha, thanks! Love your videos
@motonomad
@motonomad 4 года назад
May I ask you what mount is your Contax Zeiss lens and what sort of adaptor yoy use for the BMPCC 6K? Nice review. Thank you.
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 4 года назад
Thanks for watching !! The Contax has a CY Mount and I used a simple adapter, link in the description along with all the gear :)
@motonomad
@motonomad 4 года назад
Oops! I hadn't open the extended comments. Thank you very much for taking the time to respond and happy filmmaking!
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 4 года назад
No worries, happy to help :)
@RandomMotoThings
@RandomMotoThings 4 года назад
I don’t see a link to the actual contax lens. Can you provide a link to the actually contex Zeiss 28mm lens with the CY Mount like you have?
@JoelRiveraMD
@JoelRiveraMD 4 года назад
Question. Can you change the color of the focus assistant on the pocket 6k ?? I can barely see it because the color is either white or translucent. I can barely see it but I don’t see anywhere on the menu where to change it.
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 4 года назад
You mean peaking ? Peaking is red.
@Andresvideo
@Andresvideo 2 года назад
A little late to this question, but you can change the color. There are several to choose from. I normally go with green because it is easier to see focus on skins ;)
@McarthurBeard
@McarthurBeard 4 года назад
Does it charge the camera
@aa28918
@aa28918 4 года назад
Hi. Can I use with BMPCC6K + Samyang Cine lenses ( 14mm , 35 mm, 50mm, 24mm). if not which gimbal should I buy?
@AlexeyShevchenko
@AlexeyShevchenko 4 года назад
Bora caka hey, did you found a gimbal that works for you? I have similar setup but 4k and different lens sizes (24/50/85)
@user-mj8ru6bx4w
@user-mj8ru6bx4w 4 года назад
what will happen if i put a bm6k on a gimball with sigma 18-35 f1.8, external battery (something like sony battery with a plate), and ssd on a mount? Will i need to get more counter weight?
@BkidMuzik
@BkidMuzik 4 года назад
i have the same question
@AlexeyShevchenko
@AlexeyShevchenko 4 года назад
Did you found an answer?)
@serkan__
@serkan__ 4 года назад
how long does the battery of the weebill s last with the BMPCC 6K? thanks
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 4 года назад
Not sure exactly but hours, plenty for a whole day. Never ran out. 👍
@McarthurBeard
@McarthurBeard 4 года назад
Does this gimbal charge the camera
@abineshsrinivasan2638
@abineshsrinivasan2638 3 года назад
Does wireless image transmitter works with BMPCC6k ? Can it transmit 4k or 6k ?
@kerodari
@kerodari 3 года назад
The HDMI OUT in BMPCC 4k/6K its only at 1080P
@stisti
@stisti 3 года назад
Those shots are sweet ! Do you think the Zhiyun Weebill S can support the new BMPCC 6K Pro ?
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 3 года назад
Thanks !! Not sure but I think so. I will know very soon :).
@popcornviews
@popcornviews 3 года назад
Great question, would be very interesting to know :) maybe a video about that? 🙌
@MalachiFostermurphy
@MalachiFostermurphy 4 года назад
Nice vid. Do u think it is safe to buy on eBay??
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 4 года назад
I’d say so yeah. I prefer amazon or direct reseller though.
@TTURBOVOLVO
@TTURBOVOLVO 4 года назад
In Dutch we have a word with the same pronunciation as "weebill": wiebel. Funny thing is that it means shaky haha
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 4 года назад
Haha how funny !! Similar to wobble in English I guess.
@NurAmin262
@NurAmin262 3 года назад
Do you think it can take the payload of sigma 85mm 1.4 art with a weight of 1130g where the Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II has a weight of 805g?
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 3 года назад
Not sure to be honest, I think the weight is not a problem, the weight distribution is. I think it should be fine but I have no way of testing this.
@NurAmin262
@NurAmin262 3 года назад
@@OfTwoLands Thanks for the reply! If I ever test it, will let you know here.
@felipevece
@felipevece 4 года назад
How much weght does support the Weebill S?
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 4 года назад
They actually don’t say exactly but you can put a 5D with a 24-70 which is around 1.7 kg easily :)
@johnangelo8067
@johnangelo8067 4 года назад
that's a shaky footage. the rage of weebill s users in the groups are real lol. i hope zhiyun fix this i really like the form factor of weebill s
@TheFilmmakingChannel
@TheFilmmakingChannel 4 года назад
What's shaky?
@kawo3259
@kawo3259 3 года назад
@@TheFilmmakingChannel Don't look at the face from the woman. Look at the edges, where it's really shaky. Sad, that there's no Gimbal, wich can handle the BMPCC6k really good.
@TheFilmmakingChannel
@TheFilmmakingChannel 3 года назад
Kawo You can’t think like that. The audience won’t be looking to see if the footage is shaky. It works.
@kawo3259
@kawo3259 3 года назад
The Filmmaking Channel you‘re right, but i know it and that‘s the point 😄
@kawo3259
@kawo3259 3 года назад
Atelier.si the Came Prodigy has a vmount plate, but i‘m not sure of you can power the gimbal with it. there is a way to upgrade the ronin s, but then you need to build a complicated rig to hold the vmount battery.
@maximrousseau9199
@maximrousseau9199 4 года назад
This or the feyutech ak4500?🧐
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 4 года назад
Haven’t tried the Feyutech so can’t really tell.
@maximrousseau9199
@maximrousseau9199 4 года назад
And do you think it could support a smallrig cage and the external ssd?
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 4 года назад
Yeah of course. I have the cage and the ssd adds pretty much nothing :)
@lkptlst3256
@lkptlst3256 4 года назад
for bmpcc4k/6k there are better options for sure
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 4 года назад
Such as ?
@lkptlst3256
@lkptlst3256 4 года назад
@@OfTwoLands Moza staff
@HalloFilmz
@HalloFilmz 3 года назад
Please! Explain HOW?! HOW are every footage is shaky? How you do this??? Why??? Stab is shitty or what? Somebody tell me something, please!!
@masterv6679
@masterv6679 3 года назад
Omg what’s wrong mate
@HalloFilmz
@HalloFilmz 3 года назад
@@masterv6679 look just look on da footage.. every footage freaky shaky omg.. hoooow hoooow?
@Itchban
@Itchban 4 года назад
swap you my ronin
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 4 года назад
Haha nah I’m good man :)
@JeseeWalker
@JeseeWalker 4 года назад
Still not sure this is the right gimbal for the BMPCC 6k, seems like the Ronin S is only viable option under 1k atm, unless someone can prove me wrong...
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 4 года назад
I like the Ronin S and used it for a couple of years but the weight was a bit much for long hours and the balancing/carrying wasn’t as easy since it had no locks. Both great products, I just like the Weebill S because it is more convenient and does the same job with the two kits I use. Using a prime on the bmpcc6k on the Weebill S was the same experience as the Ronin S except the Weebill was lighter and faster to set up.
@AlexeyShevchenko
@AlexeyShevchenko 4 года назад
Of Two Lands how do you compare your experience with ronin S compare to Weeble S in a sense of stability? I am planning to use prime lenses on it (Samyang/Rokinon)
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