Zigbee Smoke detector in Home Assistant - if you dare

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There are BUNCH of fun Zigbee devices on AliExpress and sometimes I order them just to see if and how they work. Today, we will look at Tuya Smoke detector that I've paid 15.14€ (including shipping), see how it works, how well does it connect to Home Assistant and does it work with both ZHA (SkyConnect/Yellow) and ZIgbee2MQTT.
While I'm not sure of the quality and device certification, this Smoke alarm may be for you and your smart home. Zigbee Smoke detector in Home Assistant - if you dare
Tuya Zigbee Smoke sensor:
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00:00 - Intro
00:31 - Disclaimer about device
01:37 - About Smoke Detector
03:46 - Tuya SmartLife integration
04:18 - ZHA in Home Assistant
08:13 - Zigbee2MQTT integration
11:01 - Final thoughts
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Комментарии : 65

@schuim 10 месяцев назад

The amount of *sigh* moments in this video are trough the roof, love it

@BeardedTinker 10 месяцев назад

That's when hopes and reality are on different tracks ;)

@CliffordFullerton 10 месяцев назад

Since a smoke detector is critical infrastructure, I'd be reluctant to rely on uncertified stuff. But as you say: As a backup, this is interesting. Battery Level/State is an important info. Thanks!

@BeardedTinker 10 месяцев назад

I know I was repeating myself, but there is a big difference in certified equipment and cheap devices with "no warranties" or anything... Thank you 😉

@daylen577 10 месяцев назад

I'm surprised nobody has made an all in one zigbee device for air quality, temp/humid, and smoke under 20 euros yet. That's 100% possible, especially if it's based on Tuya anyway, and it would instantly make whoever does it a massive player in the home automation field.

@BeardedTinker 10 месяцев назад

Yeah, it wouldn't be that hard I guess. Nor would it seriously impact battery life.

@turboturd7954 10 месяцев назад

Why woukd I care or pay money to know what temp or humidity my smoke sensor is?

@BeardedTinker 10 месяцев назад

Maybe because with extra temperature sensor, you could more accurately determine if it's fire or just cooking.

@daylen577 10 месяцев назад

That, and combining sensors is always good, less busy network and fewer batteries needed. ZigBee smoke detectors can't replace normal ones anyway, so might as well make them as useful as possible

@turboturd7954 10 месяцев назад

@@BeardedTinker If I was being serious, and in a remote application. I would monitor a support check, using a camera before a sensor. Its a critical alarm, it should not be false alarming unless it has low quality pyro.

@gzxto 10 месяцев назад

I've bought about 8 pieces 433Mhz ones on Ali with the exact same housing, I also tested them with smoke and they all worked. All you get there, 1 alarm from Smoke, 2 alarm from testing 3 battery low. All 433mhz alarms come in parallel whith the high volume beeping on the device.... Believe me, battery state is that you want to have ! So you can replace them before they complain battery-low by start beeping randomly... Murphy's Law always in the middle of the night! I use ZHA so here zigbee2mqtt defenetely a big advantage....

@BeardedTinker 10 месяцев назад

Thank you for this information! Yeah, guess when my Aqara water sensor had low battery... You guessed it right 3AM :)

2 месяца назад

Have recently bought one of these. Build quality seems better than other cheap "certified" detectors from the local hardware store. What I miss is the possibility to turn off the alarm remotely. Remote triggering and linking multiple alarms would be desirable, but would probably hurt battery life a lot. You can buy smoke detector test spray to test optical smoke detectors.

@BeardedTinker 2 месяца назад

Not sure if others have this option, I think this is by design to prevent accidental mute when there is hazard.

@markloughtonUK 10 месяцев назад

I just love your attitude. Thanks for the videos 😂

@BeardedTinker 10 месяцев назад

You are so welcome - thank you 😉😂

@Willdickinson 10 месяцев назад

It's a shame it doesn't present speaker being active as a switch. The ability to silence it based on a kitchen presence sensor or other conditions that indicate I'm cooking would be the main things I'd want from a smart smoke alarm

@BeardedTinker 10 месяцев назад

Yes. That's a missed opportunity unfortunately. I do understand that it is possibly not that good from a safety perspective, but still...

@elpabre 10 месяцев назад

I've got already a Frient heszb-120. So this one will be a good complement... thank you 👍😁

@BeardedTinker 10 месяцев назад

Glad it helps!!! Enjoy!

@EsotericArctos 10 месяцев назад

A lot of Zigbee devices are cheap, but they all seem to work the way they should. Z-Wave is a great standard too, but tends to be a fair bit more expensive. Matter just hasn't' lived up to the hype yet. I have all three radios on my HA Yellow to give me options. Using the built in Zigbee, a SkyConnect for dedicated thread and a Z-WAve radio too. Figured that gives me the best of everything :)

@BeardedTinker 10 месяцев назад

What did you get for ZWave. Thinking about finally adding it to my test system (Yellow)

@davidkennedy7848 5 месяцев назад

I bought a First Alert Z-Wave smoke detector. I guess it is certified and safe. But I got a low battery beep of course in the middle of the night despite the device reporting 72% battery via Z-Wave. So from that perspective, I am quite disappointed with the device. I'm not sure I'm brave enough to rely on this one, but thanks for the video.

@BeardedTinker 5 месяцев назад

Yeah, I've mentioned that in video. Not 100% sure that I would trust it with my life, but....

@davidkennedy7848 5 месяцев назад

@@BeardedTinker Yes, waking up with an unexpected low battery alert > not waking up with the house on fire.

@adifoto6362 10 месяцев назад

Thanks for sharing this, will give it a try. I think they have a promotion at the moment I got mine for 14.95 EUR. I wouldn't pay 50 for it.

@BeardedTinker 10 месяцев назад

Hope you enjoy it! Yeah, anything about 18-20 is too much I think for "no-name" device. If it would be any brand name 30-40 should be OK, of course, if it was certified.

@jerryaycock 10 месяцев назад

ordered 3 today!

@BeardedTinker 10 месяцев назад

Awesome! Hope you'll use them well (or to rephrase, never use them!)

@ronm6585 10 месяцев назад

Thank you.

@BeardedTinker 10 месяцев назад

You're welcome Ron and thanks for watching!

@Tntdruid 10 месяцев назад

Mine always go off when wife is making dinner 😂

@BeardedTinker 10 месяцев назад

😂😂😂 I'm keeping this one out of kitchen - just to be on the safe side

@turboturd7954 10 месяцев назад

Poor quality ones fire on kitchen smells.

@BeardedTinker 10 месяцев назад

Smells? Didn't see any that have smell sensor, but that would be interesting feature.... Not just for kitchen, it could be used to automate toilet...

@Tntdruid 10 месяцев назад

@@BeardedTinker 😂👍

@xjcode6237 5 месяцев назад

Nice video! I got a similar zigbee smoke detector. In my has zha sees the triggers as motion detection. Also when i do the test button it says, motion detected. Does somehody know how i can change this to smoke detected?

@SenseiKeoni 10 месяцев назад

i have 3 of them... i use them to monitor carbon dioxide values... and because you can never have too many ZigBee devices.... 😅

@BeardedTinker 10 месяцев назад

Do you have CO or smoke detectors? I've bought one WiFi but it was only CO, not smoke. Do you have link maybe? Would love to get Zigbee one :)

@SenseiKeoni 10 месяцев назад

@@BeardedTinker my bad, was thinking in Monoxide and wrote Dioxide ^^

@iainhay2823 10 месяцев назад

I have some 433 smoke detectors, seem to work ok but absolutely eat batteries. I have them as extras to normally smoke detectors and have them in 3D printer enclosures. Fire safety too important to trust to such things but as an addition to let me know from afar, a decent addition

@BeardedTinker 10 месяцев назад

These should run appx 2 years on battery charge, but we will see how it goes in year or two.

@EsotericArctos 10 месяцев назад

I do find Zigbee generally is better with battery life than 433MHz RF, plus Zigbee is 2-way generally :). I would only use these smoke detectors as auxillary though. Properly certified ones are best, even if not mandated, for real protection.

@BeardedTinker 10 месяцев назад

@@EsotericArctoshave to agree on both statements with you!!! Especially the last part as it can really be difference between life and ...

@funoneone 8 месяцев назад

How do you link these together? Like if one goes off -> all goes off?

@BeardedTinker 8 месяцев назад

Only way to do it is create automation that would trigger sirene if any of them trigger.

@jani140 8 месяцев назад

You can't. It is not (at least currently not) possible to trigger an alarm remotely. But if, I would do it via group bindings directly via z2m. This way, devices could talk to eachother even without the coordinator. For instance if the fuse allready popped.

@grahamshaw5531 10 месяцев назад

In NZ only Photoelectric alarms are available & all alarms must be sold with a battery.

@BeardedTinker 10 месяцев назад

It's strange that from what I know, we don't have anything mandatory in regard to smoke detection. Except, of course, for commercial buildings.

@andrea00 10 месяцев назад

Shelly produces a similar smoke detector (but WiFi). I would like to buy the Shelly smoke detector.. have you considered it? It is pretty expansive (around 50€), but I expect a certain quality from Shelly!

@BeardedTinker 10 месяцев назад

It was on my shopping list, but haven't bought it yet. Shelly Smoke was announced I think 2-3 years ago and it took them really long time to get it out. While usually quality of their devices is great, not sure about this one as they also had some not so good products on batteries (like door/window sensor).

@andrea00 10 месяцев назад

@@BeardedTinker Thank you very much for your answer! I have Shelly smoke and Shelly Gas in my wish list too. I’ve not purchased them yet for two reasons: 1 pretty expansive (about 50€ each) 2 I can’t find a reliable RU-vid video made by home assistant community RU-vidrs! However I think I’ll buy a Shelly smoke or Shelly gas, since I’ve recently bought a Shelly plug S and it works really well with home assistant! Thank you for your answer!

@luisicomur 7 месяцев назад

Is possible to deactivate sound alarm? , I would like to be notified only by home assistant notifications, I use ZHA

@BeardedTinker 7 месяцев назад

Not really sure that you can.

@Birukoff 10 месяцев назад

Does it blink repeatedly when it's armed? How bright is it, if it does?

@BeardedTinker 10 месяцев назад

It does blink. I'll try to catch how often. It doesn't look that bright. I have it currently on my work desk and it doesn't distract me. Will update/maybe do short clip in pitch dark room.

@Birukoff 10 месяцев назад

Thank you. These blinking LEDs can be really annoying in bedrooms (speaking from experience).

@BeardedTinker 10 месяцев назад

Needed stopwatch for this one - it blinks once every 90 seconds. It is red LED, but not to bright. In pitch dark you see it, but again, not that much.

@adampakula4285 7 месяцев назад

Does this device need Tuya Hub? Or can it work without it?

@BeardedTinker 7 месяцев назад

It needs some king of zigbee controller - any that works with Home Assistant. Not necessarily Tuya hub.

@defyent Месяц назад

It’s a shame there is no way to trigger the alarm, so if one goes off, all can go off. This is a feature most modern smoke alarms have even if they aren’t smart devices. A bit of an oversight from the manufacturer I’d say. Deal breaker for me.

@BeardedTinker Месяц назад

Yeah, that is unfortunate...