Zoom MS-50G | The King Of Budget Multi-FX? 

I think it depends on what you're using it for, also. I wouldn't really rely on it for high end critical professional shows or jobs, but for fun, practice, etc., it's fine. I would go for the extra spend and get something like a better Zoom or Boss processor, if you're going to really play out live, or record with it.

For sure, there's a lot packed into such a cheap pedal with such a small form factor.

@@KaiDownThis would seem easier to just us on the fly, or just save your patches and set and forget. I don't even know how people playing live in dark environments even see any display etc. on stage! That must be a challenge, especially on a pedal that small.

You're welcome! 💪

After looking into it, I don't think there really is anything else like this at it's price point. I'd say if you set your expectations accordingly you'll likely have a great time with it. I landed on not replacing it with anything - just a straight return, unless something else happens to come up.

I can see that, I definitely didn't get along with it, but that's only because the things that I would need it for didn't line up with what the unit is good at. That's obviously going to vary massively on a case-by-case basis - I would've liked to keep it just for the weird stuff like the ring mod and the bit crusher, but I think I'd sooner pick up a used one if I ever did need those effects.

Whoa, for the same price too! I think the G1X4 is likely the much better option

@@KaiDownI would tend to say so. I got mine two years ago or so, at Guitar Center, I'd read of it on Amazon or RU-vid, and figured it was time to invest in a decent processor. I wasn't looking forward to spending $600 on pedals right now. It was worth the money just to be able to play certain songs, but now having mastered editing, it's even more valuable. Plus runs on batteries, I just leave it on my desktop in front of my Blackstar amp, and plug it into any of my amps, and let rip! It's pretty sturdy, too.

That's the way to do it for sure. I think I sort of ignored the compression and filter stuff, they're not really effects that come up in my arsenal all that often. Glad to hear you're digging the pedal though, I definitely see the value in it

I have one ordered! 😇

@@KaiDown looking forward to seeing your review. I'm learning how to play the guitar and you apparently need some effects to help you make good tones. I'm currently eyeing either the MS-50G+ or the G1 Four. My intention is to make either of the pedals to be placed in the effects loop and have them function as the reverb, delay, and mod successively. I wish your review will include something like that. But still, thanks for all the info on the MS-50G. ☺️

I returned this pedal pretty shortly after this demo. I don't think that it's entirely useless by any means - there are situations where I would like it, there are situations I didn't try that I could've liked too. It just didn't work out for what I was wanting it for at the time of making the video. I've now got the Line 6 HX One on order, that seems to fill my needs a lot better.

@@KaiDown Awesome, if you ever make a vid on it I'll check it out!

Yes it can!

Thank you for the comment, I've added the FX list to the description box. There are 241 effects total able to be loaded onto the unit using the Zoom Effect Manager software, but the unit can fit about 140 at a time.

Oh! And as for the price, it should be about $130 new, or $50-$70 on the used market.

On further inspection, I do think the G1Four is likely the better of the two

​@@KaiDownBeen saying it for years that the g1four deserves all the praise that the multistomp and line6 M5 get.

Yamaha Revstar RS820

Thank you! 💪

30 is an awesome price for it, good score!

Yeah I hate it when that happens, oh well 🤷‍♂️

I’ve got an HX One coming, so we’ll see 😄

Yessir! It's the guitar I reach for most often when I'm doing anything not-metal, the action is slammed down to sub-1mm and it's buttery smooth to play. Very underrated guitars!

I wouldn't say I hate it, but I definitely don't like it

@@KaiDown okey but why I can't get the zoom effects manager 1.0.1 link?

Here's the link to the latest Zoom Effect Manager: zoomeffectmanager.com/en/download/

​@@KaiDownhow this work?

It's not like shredding and modulated tones are mutually exclusive. I've heard some pretty badass leads and rhythm tones where they add a touch of chorus or pitch detuner and it always sounds killer! Just a few examples off the top of my head... Greyhawk - Call of the Hawk (a blend of Tradition Heavy Metal and Power Metal, chorus on the solos) Toxodeth - Mysteries of Life and Death (sounds like what would happen if you played Neo-Classical inspired Death Metal with an 80's AOR guitar tone) Rotting Christ - Thy Mighty Contract (same thing but with Black Metal this time) GraveDanger - pitch detune every song, local underground band. The Awakening and Thousand Yard Stare are my favorite songs from them Resington here on RU-vid uses chorus on his leads in nearly every video with a demo track, he plays Death Metal type stuff, has numerous albums out... Long story short, there are some great tones out there to be had if you add a touch of modulation or detuner on top of your leads and solos bud, don't write it off completely! Anyhow, Keep Rocking \m/

​@@serpentsbane9166 I agree but the use of modulation in shred and sweep style players is rampant. It's literally 99.999% of players that always use it. There are times I hear it used so incredibly well with a hint of a detuner that it sounds like they're doing something unique and seemingly impossible with their fingers, then I see the note arrangements they're actually playing and it's just another sequentially coordinated arpeggio/sweep and the effects are so good, it sounds like it's the most impossible note arrangement ever. I like the way it sounds but it also cheapens what we're doing as players who get lost in shredding and sweeping. It definitely plays a role in how we compose and people relying on that warble and pitch shifting to create note accents that heavily magnify what is being played rather than the player being inspired to go above and beyond to actually compose a segment of notes in a way that actually gets played the way it sounds. I rarely ever use modulation and pitch shifting effects and as far as depth and time based like delay and reverb, I keep them extremely low at around 25-30%. There's undoubtedly still great players with a signal saturated in effects, just listen to Zakk Wylde, especially in his instagram uploads. It's more that I think the usage has tainted metal in that it's a constant. It's exceptionally rare you don't hear these effects being relied on.

@@JonDeth Interesting, I've never heard it used in such a way as to mask or obscure what a lead player is doing, I always think of it enhancing your overall sound like that lush 80's AOR guitar tone, or any of Tom Sholz's Rockman line (Rockman XPR preamp or XP212 Combo is my dream amp) Too much of any given thing could be bad, such as over reliance on harmonizer effects in the studio rather than learning to overdub harmonies manually. Could that perhaps be what you are referring too? Harmonizers are not modulation so I wonder what then you would be referring too... \m/

​@@serpentsbane9166 Nether had I but having worked really hard on my gear until I was finally in college for the science of engineering, I had reached a point where I was designing circuits specific to actual amps I own and had also modified. I ended up getting my noise reduced to dreamlike levels while still having heaps and heaps of gain. My buzz, hum, white noise and feedback have been gone for about 15 years now. Several years ago having not used a noise gate for a very long time, I decided to tinker with them since I have so many on various processors and noticed that some with a lot of parameter controls like threshold, ratio, release, mix etc. could be dialed in to surgical levels and they don't let some of the "rustle" passed the gate. Some of it's eliminated entirely and some of it gets "zapped" out when the AI senses it's potentially spiking in volume due to speed of rise. *It's relative to processors and plugins I see today that are now growing in popularity because they can remove echo and reverb from your live feed, not just post editing.*