Zoom vs Bronze Tiger (Ending) | Suicide Squad: Hell to Pay 

animegx45 but its another universe

None of those bullets went straight through. (I checked) So Reverse Flash re-appears in Flashpoint right where he left off, falls face forward onto his front. No one notices the bullet holes there because about a minute later everything on that side of the planet gets vaporized anyway before the reset.

Best gun ever

I like to think Deadshot shooting him in the head at the end killed him in via paradox as there was nothing left of him traveling the speed force

this reminds me of that one deadpool filler where he and nick fury went back in time and killed Hitler, made it look like suicide, but it was done so comedically horrible, that no one was convinced, lmfao

I still don't get how that works, like ik reverse flash got headshotted by Thomas batman, but I don't get how this film comes into play

Who are you? What do you want? Basically Eobard was dying because of Batman and just before he died he managed to speed up enough to extend his death. That’s why he wants the card so he’ll be brought back from the dead

@@dwightschrute2346 he won't be brought back, he'll avoid going to hell. The card is a free pass to Heaven

Flash: did i screw up the timeline again?

@@whoareyouwhatyouwant803 that yellow guy is zoom right? idk which is reverse which is zoom :V

I always wondered why

@@jimmyelkordy3752 It is cause they make a background first then animate everything that moves after. It is efficient but doesn’t look as good.

​@@omegamegamega1977 the funny bit is the blade doesn't move anyways, they cut away before Thawne actually grabs it.

Dragonball Z boulders

Well at this point its a tradition hehe

He know Zoom can't kill him as long he has the card

@@mystgunedolas5172 what does the card do

​@@Dilllonmthe card can send people to heaven weather or not your bad or good. But its only good for once. When you die the card has to be on you in order to work.

Well if you remember, in the beginning of Flashpoint Paradox, Zoom uses Boomerang and the other villains like pawns in his plan to kill Flash. He essentially made a fool out of him, and even worse, a living suicide bomb. So seeing Thawne so desperate was probably quite the treat for him and why that *”screw you”* was so personal.

What do you mean?

@@slimer44producciones3 time dilation

Probably less than that. I wonder, when Zoom fell over, eyes flickering, was the memory of that whole thing playing in what was left of his mind? Did he remember?

@@Bluesit32, he probably didn't? I mean, he didn't have the time to think, he was dying. lmfao

It did not

Chris Tucker zoom be like: I need help carrying my heavy balls of steel

😂😂😂

And he can phase through time

He's a fictional character written that way

Reverse flash, not zoom. Those are two different people now, I believe.

Yeah, time travel buddy. It's a whole wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff 😅 It took me some time to understand Zoom's whole deal in this film but i finally manage to piece it together 😅

Because shes like the cinammon roll in the group.

Beast Boy should take notes.

She dies in the last movie of this universe

@@Ionreallysleep lol everybody dies tho

Harley quinn has more plot armor then batman nowadays.

Again that's how he died in flashpoint paradox he got caught monologuing twice

Lorenz Frost hes pretty cool and tries to stay that way

How many times we have to teach you old man.

I love the young people

you fool you had me monologuing

Kuei Killa Speed Force+blades=Fastest killer in the world

@@patrik9328 Honestly, that works well and perfect with Zoom. Just imagine if Zoom was trained by the League of Assassins!

Mr.Knight The Detective True Deathstroke once learned to use Speed Force He literally became Fastest Killer alive

@@patrik9328 Well, he didn't *learn* exactly. More like "he made a special suit and stole the Speed force".

Mr.Knight The Detective I forgot How do you steal Speed-Force?

Apparently, being unpredictable is an asset.

Technically speaking Harley does have enhanced abilities. She has slightly enhanced strength and agility due to the Poison Ivy giving her some plant juice to enhance her and make her immune to all known poisons and toxins.

And a lot of plot armor

i kinda think her power is luck.

she has the power of the being the least threatening individual in the entire team. even captain boomerang is more dangerous, and his only schtick is that he throws boomerangs, but he's REALLY good at it. nobody thinks to themselves, "man, we gotta deal with this schizo chick!" they're thinking about the guy shooting at them, the snake man, and the girl who can literally freeze their veins. it doesn't explain how she fucking survived til the end of Dark, but in a normal setting, it accounts for her usual survival.

Nope. Suicide doesn't count for the get-out-of-hell-free card.

@@crofoegbu6535 he wouldn't be killing himself by doing that though, the bullet to his head would still be the cause of his death because really all he did was stretch out the length of time of his inevitable death from the bullet

@@rorymayo3332 Indirectly and knowingly letting himself die in this extremely odd case, might end up being considered suicide.

@@crofoegbu6535 one the card works all long as you die while holding it suicide included. Two even if suicide didn't work. Reverse flash wouldn't be killing himself. He'd essentially be unplugging his life support machine which was expanding life he didn't have.

@@GodsDissapointment if it worked with suicide, Reverse Flash would have committed suicide. He didn't thus it doesn't.

He said so on the movie If not I'm sorry...

Isn't that the reverse flash, I haven't seen this series so the lore could be different but everyone in the comments is calling him zoom but zoom is jay garrick and wears a black suit whereas I thought eobart thawne was reverse flash and that's reverse flash' suit too

@@indianatobes4277 from what I've heard Zoom and Reverse Flash are the same person in everything except the CW's Flash.

This is why you watch the good shows before you watch CW Flash

He needed no decisions to make after he got the card. Just let death happen, as it was going to, according to Batman's bullet.

That's Reverse Flash not Zoom

reverse that

@@albertgibbsjr4429 no.... zoom is the one with red eyes. You're thinking of the show where they took Professor Zoom, and Zoom and turned them into one character..

That's not reverse flash. Professor Zoom is reverse flash. Zoom is the one with visors on his eyes that make his eyes look red. Zoom is an entirely DIFFERENT character than that of Professor Zoom (reverse flash). Just saying...

Rodis Mantle which shows how good he is at being bad

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lol

I don't care who they send, I am not paying taxes

To paraphrase the joker "I'm crazy enough to take on the bats, but the IRS? Nooooo, thank you"

@@gitgud2523 they're gonna send a nuclear bomb at your current location that's what

It's in every single animated movie

It's in every single animated media out there they'll shade any item that will be used or interacted with differently from everything else.

Ah come on dude you should of known when the reverse flash said his hello in this movie.

@@MRWIL246 I still don't get it

@@whoareyouwhatyouwant803 Well here is the rundown of the connection between the Flashpoint Animated Movie and Suicide Squad Hell to pay. Now, in the Flashpoint Animated Series our Flash had one goal in mind to save his Mom for a Unknown Killer which he Succeeded. The result was beyond chaotic because in rescuing his Mom it cause a alternative time line that change the DC Universe. Wonder Woman was in a Covil War against her one time lover Aquaman, Superman was a weak Alien captured by the government, Batman is Thomas Wayne who is the father of Bruce Wayne which he was killed as a child and the great hero in that Universe was Cyborg. With all of this Chaos someone was watching a waiting to get his revenge against the Flash, guess who. A weak Barry who lost his speedforce because of his actions ask Thomas Wayne for help which be did but it took two times to make Barry the Flash. The first time almost cooked him alive but the second time The flash was back and tried to change the timeline again but again guess who was stopping him by draining the Speed force. During the Movie all hell was let loose between Aquaman and Diana force to which innocent People was trap in their meltdown relationship. Wonder Woman killed a lot of characters which included the Aquaman's family but the King of the seas had the last laugh by using his ultimate weapon which is to destroy the Universe. At this time Barry found out who was causing him to not able to change the time line which was the reverse Flash. The reverse Flash almost killed Barry until Thomas Wayne got involved and Killed The reverse Flash with a bullet to the Brain. The flash now at full strength was able to reverse the change he done and everything was back to normal and he even gave ou Batman a special gift too, Now here is the connection to the Suicide Hell to pay Animation. During the time the reverse Flash was being killed by Thomas Wayne Bullet. he was able to use the speedforce to stop time at that exact moment the Bullet was ripping through his Brain. It's like if you slow Stick a Needed to your finger and slowly push it in but reverse. In turn the Reverse flash was able to stop his Death but time was against him. He was slowly dying and needed to focus all his willpower, all his speedforce in stopping the bullet ripping through his brain. That's why when you saw the Animated Suicide Squad Movie the reverse Flash was slow and not at his best. He was racing against time and he need to act fast because he knows he is going to Die and he know where he will go if he dies, enter the get out of Hell Card to which he needs to get it before its too late. The rest you know f you watch the Animated Movie Dude.

@@MRWIL246 the suicide squad are gonna be in the new justice league movie

@@christopherkeroro723 no problem Chris glad to help.

Lol

Hi is the smartest dumbfuck, since his flashpoint death was his fault as well

@@emperorsunnyshore9272 No, you can buy it at the store.

Rodan Is it a small brain with a hole in it.

Batman shot him in the end, that made a *HOLE* lot of sense now

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Must have thought he had a chance since Zoom's speed is very limited.

Speedster that knows they are screwed without a card that person has , they do everything and even use all their remaining speed force shot to do it .

King Hezi his speed is limited and he was frozen plus I think he was just tryna get away from his team

The first time this came out I was laughing so hard at that part. Especially when he ran his pockets fast as fuck looking for the card. That's hilarious.

Isn't Captain Boomerang a Flash Rogue? He could have went head to head with Reverse Flash. Could have at least used his boomerangs to combat the speedster.

She deserves worse

@@maskedmarvyl4774 if we go with idea of them entering heaven then no, finding religion would not get her to heaven because religion is a practice and traditions that does not get one into heaven.

@@maskedmarvyl4774 There is no Atheists in a falling plane.

That’s not at all how you get absolved for your sins in Christianity. You have to actually be remorseful for all the things you did and want to repent. You don’t just get to say “whoops my bad, we all good Jesus?” And have it all go away.

@@maskedmarvyl4774 you know absolutely nothing about what you are speaking of. You obviously just speaking nonsense from skewed little knowledge. Heck you just trolling

He even dropped the knife that Tiger used to cut off his fingers next to him.

Tiger guy had plot armor, his throat was sliced and still had oxygen to throw a knife at such force to chop fingers? Lmao no

@@BuetifullPersun Dude, it's fiction. Literally nothing follows the rules of our reality.

@@BuetifullPersun He survied that.... Bullshit DC.

@@BuetifullPersun It was a fairly shallow cut. He still had to grab the card and couldn't risk Tiger dying before he did.

Hehe, yeah he does

Indeed

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Yes

Right

One of the best non-powered fighters. That takes people like Deathstroke and Black Canary off the list.

@@Bluesit32 Bronze would destroy them. He one shot Batman in the comics, people forget this. Just because modern day media shits on Tiger doesn't mean he wasn't amazing in the comics.

@@LuffyBlack Not Deathstroke. He's beaten Batman as well. It would be a close fight.

Hands down the best fighter!

Bronze tiger is third greatest martial artist in DC Universe

So far he seems pretty dead, what with his connection to the negative speed force severed before Iris killed him.

The same goes with deadpool.. Cuz you know the love triangle between Thanos, Death and Deadpool

@@Bluesit32 the Flash just created another Flashpoint, guess who will be returning..

Another fun fact, Thawne could've taken the card and used it here. He already had a hole in his noggin here and could've just stopped using the negative speedforce to stretch his dying moments when he was holding the card. Simple as that. He didn't even need to get shot again.

Not in MCU continuity....Unless they pull some weird time travel froggery

You see is dragon ball constantly aswell

like literally, this trope is so fucking funny and annoying at the same time. I guess you need to save time on animation or something?

@@roserose109 it's because aren't all working on the same scenes, or even on consecutive scenes. So they use different coloring/shading to let whoever is doing the consecutive scene know what parts are important

The one that is not part of the background

Tom and Jerry trained me for this

it's not like any of them know, they just know they don't wanna go there lmao. some of them didn't even care about the card itself. Frost was gonna sell it, Boomer just wanted to get out of Waller's games (even if it was a stupid plan). that said, you don't need to know how bad Hell is, you just know it's not a fun time.

@@Dracon350 SOme of the villains know exactly what is waiting for them at least pre new 52 as a number of them had sold their souls to Neron for a power boost.

It's HELL. Nobody wants to go there period lol.

Talking is his weakness

@@gilgamesh2646 That and having too fragile a neck. *SNAP!*

He didn't die in flashpoint. That's the point here he has been alive SINCE flashpoint! Just barely keeping himself alive.

@@coldfusionstormgaming1808 True, but he made sure he WOULD die in Flashpoint. No matter what, whether Deadshot killed him or he just ran out of speed force reserves, Thawne was going to die on that battle field with Batman standing behind him.

Coldfusionstorm Gaming He was transported back to where he left off in Flashpoint, standing in front of Batman with a giant hole in his head. he did die, here and in Flashpoint.

honestly, if the live action Suicide Squad was _this_ good nobody would complain. Hell, if the DCEU live actions were as good as the animated films the DCEU would be more liked

@@roserose109 or marvels for that matter

Live Acton DCU, bad. Animated DC, badass.

dv what?

@@ConradKurzeDVD... Digital Video Disk. A sandwich of plastic and other materials that held information encoded on its surface and read by a laser. Its the grandady of the Thumbdrive.

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Yes i do

Nope he needs hell, I was rooting for somebody to shut the smug bastard up, thank you deadshot

ikk i was rooting for him tooo

@DeadNinjutsu its such a strange concept, speeding up so fast you slow down the time it takes for your brain functions to end after being shot, what other's perceive as real time is, for zoom, happening in less than a millisecond, he's just fast enough to still perceive it

me too i wanted zoom to go to heaven.... for some reason

Sebastian Joseph Does Tiger even need the card? I think he deserved to go to heaven.

+Vlad the Impaler He's killed people even tho he's killed people who deserve it unlike the villains in the Squad and Zoom and Savage.

Sad to see one of the best villains die, but Bronze Tiger deserved a pass to heaven.

@@williamdeng7524 Neither Heaven nor Hell would want Zoom.

Batman said that Bronze Tiger is faster than him.

@@porobotboyxxx zoom was also getting slower

@@panthor109thabest7 Yeah but he was still superhumanly fast.

Would say that, don't get me wrong bronze tiger skills rivals Batman's but remember the reverse flash was not at his best so in the end tiger was lucky.

@@MRWIL246 Yes indeed, Zoom was much slower but still superhumanly fast. So its still an impressive display of skill and proof that refined technique can beat superior physical ability.

Well he did die twice monologuing both headshot

Thawne didn't have to come here at first place...if he didn't have his brains blown out

See, you say that...and it's true that he COULD kill them all in an instant...but he would prefer not to. Take the first issue of "The Button" storyline where New 52 Zoom transforms back into his pre-Flashpoint self and decides to get revenge on Thomas Wayne by killing his son. He proceeds to the Batcave and, instead of just killing Batman, he beats on him for a bit. He also takes the time to read the note Thomas gave Barry to give to Bruce and tore it to shreds. Thawne is so into prolonging the pain of his victims that Batman is able to drive a batarang into his foot and hold him in place long enough for him to land a punch. It doesn't do anything, but the fact he got punched by someone moving at normal speed is insulting enough to Thawne.

TheBlues32 why tho?

@@KellyCalKelsey He's a sociopathic and a sadist. He relishes causing pain.

Deadshot acknowledges that earlier in the movie

With who?

@@BerbinKing his japanese love. If you had watched the movie you´d know that.

Indeed he will.

In hell

Jar Jar Binks No, he has the Get Out of Hell Free card

He must escape when he has time

Twice lol

The movie should have had zoom going to get lemon juice and pouring it on him it would’ve been worse for him

Fun fact. "Death from a thousand cuts" was an actual form of torturous execution. Chinese, I think.

@@aflvproductions7854 uhhhhhhhhh😨

@@Bluesit32 Yeah, I learned that shit from college in my history class I took there. Even heard a bit of audio from something like that in said class myself. Definitely a fucking brutal way to go out, that's for sure!

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My headcanon for this card is that is does, genuinely work, but is of diabolical origin- the whole movie is evil people who, instead of facing any possibility of redemption, dig themselves in *deeper* to try and swipe the card. Waller is my big example, someone who might've at least tried to redeem herself when she realized she was dying, but instead chose to do greater evil to try and save herself another way, and goes to hell for it. Savage as well, if he really did die here, and others. What a perfect, tricksy way for demons to lure mortals away from redemption? Lie to them a sweet nothing that they can escape it, but only them, only one person, and they'll have to fight for it.

Thats pretty fucked up

Bruh.

@@parkerdixon-word6295 wait. Waller was dying in this? That explains the cancer thing in the recent justice league dark movie. Harley said waller died of cancer. And of course I laughed.

Thing is this thing would have to be made with(DCU) God's seal of approval and knowing him the card is a joke meant to teach a lesson. Assuming the writer cares about the Dc universe.

EmptyMan000 that would have killed him sending tiger to heaven the card only works once

he could have just cut off Bronze Tiger whole hand with a bigger sword, i'm sure he wouldn't die right away with that and Zoom has enough time to get back the card while Bronze Tiger can't do anything to stop him without his hand

natsu dragneel have you seen Tiger? He was so much blood he would totally die from that.

Or, hear me out, he could have speed to get the card.

EmptyMan000 I think he when for the the knife to make sure he didn't kill him

He's very evil and powerful

@@user-eb8mi3xi5f smart as hell too.

Not to mention he beats death

He's an amazing character. :)

As much as I hate him, it's not hard to grasp why considering just how fast he is.

1. Reverse flash was busy beating bronze tiger 2. This reverse flash had a hole in his head and is much slower compared to the regular reverse flash, he can be beaten and killed, which is what happened lol

@@TheCapedArtist 1. He is still faster than a regular human lol

I second this :)

Not unless in some timey whimy, paradox sense Boomerang boy is an ancestor of Zoom/Reverse Flash.......though as if paradoxes would stop anything since it's possible all of DC's reality is a paradox thus nothing can ever truly end for good (But hey that's just a reversion of some 4th wall theory 1000+ people have made before and after and that includes the people I don't even know about)

And of course captain boomerang doesnt die. He's the kind of white guy they like...

XON3D6IXXGODD He's Australian

@@reycactus1 And voiced by the same guy who voiced JD Finix in Gears of War 4 and 5.

Yes 👍

i love the revorse flash

for zoom yes, but in actually it takes place in the timeline of the other movies.

@@livanbard: took place in the other movie timeline Huh.? Sure why not...cuz that makes so much more sense.😕

I understand that part but I don’t get how he could’ve experienced the whole movie in a millisecond.

Time wimey stuff, surely.

Speed force healing

Holy shit are you a speedster how did you catch that

@@Laid2Sleep Speed force won't grow his fingers and suit back

I thought this was an inception type thing, so since he failed and died it jumps back to were he was when he self absorbed the speed force for the chance at living Right??

You can run but you can't hide from the death racer.

The rules of the card are final. He does. It go to hell. Where Thawne does go is up for debate, but if he does with the card, it won't be down below.

​@@Bluesit32 it's not up for debate at all, Thawne goes to hell straight down into hell's basement

@@PulseAnimations878 It is a debate because he may be dragged into the speed force, like all other speedsters.

He literally could have just ran off with the card but nope gotta gloat

Hi Shaun

he got smacked in the back of the head I dont think anyone can shoot straight right after that

He misses many shots in this movie

Bruh.

He murder his entire family and his ex-lover boyfriend, so that he wouldn't have any distractions.

He is the definition of a reverse flash. Rank among the elite DC villians that rivals luthor, joker and even senestro.

@@MRWIL246 don't forget Black Manta

@@porobotboyxxx Yes he did and no he didn't

@@alpborakirte801 Time Travel can be so confusing.

bruh he can't think straight

He lost his intelligence by having a huge hole in his head

Yep. And It's PROFESSOR ZOOM! Not Dr.

They couldn't kill him if he had the card in hand, so they had to get him away from the card before trying to kill Zoom. That's why Deadshot didn't shoot him until after he lost the card.

Dude, you are acting like you watched the whole movie! ZOOM IS LITERALLY GOING TO DIE! He was shot by an alternate Batman in the head, and literally used all of his power just to survive long enough to find a way to either cheat dead or find a way to Heaven. The whole movie literally happens in less than a second of him being shot, so he is finally death, in both timelines

@@MegamanZXOmega i mean this is just wrong, but i can see why Deadshot would've assumed the frozen Zoom was a non-threat. one of them really should've just shattered Zoom while they had the chance, but Boomer's a moron who wasn't thinking beyond his immediate future, Harley is Harley, and Floyd wanted to secure the mission and wasn't focused on the then-non-threat Zoom. plus, Zoom already explained to them that he was running on fumes, another reason to downplay him at this moment.

His fingers are also the doppelgangers of the Speed force.

The animators probably forgot

Travis Montgomery i counted 36

@@RU-vidsaysimCyberbully Really? I counted 32 including the one across the throat.

did i say 10? i underestimated

Could have cut all ligaments/tendons etc and left him an immobile wreck unable to pick up the card even if he wanted to

@@Durmomo0 the blade, rather

It was rated r

@@benjaminramsey498 and that’s why they’re better than the live action ones from dc

@@benjaminramsey498 yeah like the killing joke was kinda pushing it too but that what's these movies badass

He always don't forget to monologue though.

Now that is a good theory for the card since it was never mentioned in the movie. So long as you regret or repent for your acts, you get out of hell for free. Otherwise, having the card won't mean shit.

My brother in christ that is the core belief of Christianity, that all sins can be forgiven and you can go to heaven. The point of the card is to by pass that.

having the card means you are selfish enough to have it, so this rule might not work out because you truly don't regret your sins instead you want to escape from it. (unless someone puts it on you) In Lucifer there was a similar rule.

remorse and repentance allow literally anybody to get in heaven, whether they're Hitler, a serial murderer/rapist, etc. that was literally the point of the crucifixion.

No, the card has no prerequisites. That's why it's priceless. ANYONE could use it to get to Heaven, but it's only valid once. Joker himself could get into Heaven with it.

Oluwatobi Esan At Least He’s With His Wife Now

No where near

Flashpoint, Batman:Under the red hood, Batman:Mask of the Phantasm, Dark Knight Returns, Justice league:war, Batman Beyond:Return of the Joker, Assault on Arkham way better movies than this one.

I could list 30 that are way better

Ignore these guys. Its your opinion. I liked the movie a lot

@@tdk488 Flashpoint wasn’t that good, in the comics yes same with the Dark Knight Returns, the only thing good in that was the Joker and he didn’t last long anyway.

Talia LIED

@@zzz7903 Wy does Deadshot look like Bruce with a beard?

@@filledvoid Or Tony Stark (may he rest in peace)

we're not gonna act like Boomerang had anything to do with that lmao. that was all Tiger and Floyd's doing.

That meta human was already half dead. He got big hole in his brain, this must be reason he was taking stupid decisions. He was also very slow while fighting bronze tiger.

@@Dracon350 I think the third was Batman there.

Nah man. Batman killing all the criminals at the end of BvS was a bit better.

Smallville fight, man you think before you say something this movie is better but action scenes no

@@dustinsoyrier4891 Aquaman had much better action scenes.

Lol gtfo

And imagine if he had plot armor like Barry.

He already is op.

what? he cares about himself an awful lot if he's willing to steal the card and betray his team. his plan was pretty dumb anyways. he steals the card, Waller shows up, what's he do then? like sure, she can't kill him, but she can have him subdued, take the card, then kill him. he honestly got lucky as shit Tiger stopped his ass, otherwise we wouldn't have seen him in Dark.