Zorg bij katholieke elite over bestuursstijl kardinaal Eijk 

We zijn al heel ver Jezus Christus komt terug. Er zijn heel veel leugens op de wereld en ze houden mij tegen, mAar in Jezus Christus naa gaan we nu dr heel snel voor. Maar we hebben geen tijd dus ik moet me werk doen. Amen sjalom shalom

Kunt u lang wachten

Zeker. Net als misbruik van kleine jongetjes.

Nee want achter kamertje politiek houden w eniet van. Doen de hoge heren ook de rechters en dan ben je al veroordeeld achter in plaats aan de voorkant. Amen sjalom shalom

@@aukevandekken917 Wanneer komen RK-gelovigen in opstand tegen hun kerkleiders? Hoe dom zijn RK-vrouwen dat ze zich niet vrijvechten binnen de rk-kerk ? Jezus kwam als mensch op aarde... wie is de kerkleiding om onderscheid te maken?

Ik ben veel gelukkiger sinds ik de kerk enkele jaren geleden de rug heb toegekeerd. Er is werkelijk niets in dit leven waarvoor de kerk noodzakelijk Is.

I am no fan of Pell but I think he is not guilty of the alleged offence. The complainant’s statement is a boilerplate lawyers' construciton: . “Like many survivors I have experienced shame, loneliness, depression and struggle. Like many survivors it has taken me years to understand the impact on my life. At some point we realise that we trusted someone we should have feared and we fear those genuine relationships that we should trust.” The same words are used by his female lawyer and they sounded very fake to me from her lips. I suspect wonder they were ghost-written by the legal team 1. “Like many survivors” the complainant (is supposed to have) said twice - which to me sounds more like a meme or talking point than personal testimony. 2. “Shame, loneliness, depression, and struggle” are experienced by every human being. They constitute the mildest level of “impact statement” rhetoric - the best the prosecution lawyers could come up with. 3. “It has taken me years to understand the impact on my life” - or to construct such an understanding, as his felloww-chorister’s drug addiction was also constructed as part of a “pattern” betokening the impact of abuse? Apart from post hoc not being propter hoc, it’s not impossible that the construction of patterns in the wake of the friend’s death when the complainant first told of being abused (16 years after the alleged incident) also includes construction of the alleged incident itself. 4. The generic utterance at the end is to my ears very unconvincing: “At some point we realise that we trusted someone we should have feared and we fear those genuine relationships that we should trust.” I suspect that these are the words of the lawyer rather than the complainant. Why would he philosophize generically “we trusted” “we fear” rather than “I” did? The trust alleged seems purely a postulate based on Pell’s ecclesiastical status; he was a new archbishop at the time, and it seems that they did not know him, nor he them. Again this broken trust meme is a legal construct probably supplied by the prosecution.

Sorry, wrong thread.

Zolang het kerkvolk in brede zin zich niet verenigt maar de kardinaal-arts zijn gang laat gaan .... dan ook niet zeuren ! Nu is er sprake van een zichzelf benoemde groep ('kliek') van 'rk' oude mannetjes, was dat de wil van Jezus?