ZOWIE S2-C Review: Which Symmetrical ZOWIE Shape is the BEST?

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ZOWIE S2-C is now officially released, here is my review and shape comparison with the FK2 and the ZA13. ** NOTE ** I mistakenly listed S2 height to be 36mm in the comparison, it's 38mm! Also FaZe NiKo kekw
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@hausgaming 2 года назад

What's your favourite symmetrical ZOWIE shape? ad: Buy ZOWIE mice from Addice with discount using code: haus addiceinc.com/?afmc=haus

@Nerdywr 2 года назад

The last sentence is 100% correct, no one should continue to consider any s2 clones with the c series out, you don’t wanna cheap out on build quality especially when zowie is now also providing solid paracords and lighter weights. I have a s2 myself and it is a tank in terms of build quality, absolutely solid build

@johnko5 2 года назад

Unless, of course, you want a wireless mouse...

@Nerdywr 2 года назад

@@johnko5 yes of course, but personally I don’t think wireless is much of a big deal. I have gpx and play on pretty Low sens and I still play equally well on s2/Xm1r. S2 shape being the best for me out of all 3. Will be ordering the s2c once it’s available in my region

@jaykera 2 года назад

@@Nerdywr eh you can get a better sensor and wireless which to me is a massive difference. I actually don’t know why someone would buy a s2c to be honest

@XXlegovidXx 2 года назад

the clone i tried (the pwnage ultra custom sym) feels nothing like an s2, feels way chunkier and doesnt fit my grip anywhere near.

@A.J.920 2 года назад

@@jaykera Most modern sensors are good a 3060 like in the S2-C is more than good enough, you won't be able to tell a difference. Not really a massive deal anymore. Now wireless is very nice, but if you have a good cable and a bungee it's pretty close to a wireless mouse. Also the main reason to get the S2-C is the shape, it is arguably the best for claw grip users.

@Guinibee1 2 года назад

Nice review Haus! Can't wait to try it! I'm a big fan of this shape, so I'm excited!

@hausgaming 2 года назад

Thanks, hope you enjoy it!

@myvmk1 2 года назад

amazing informative video. I like that explanation about the micro adjustment aim

@hausgaming 2 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it myv!

@NathanMian 2 года назад

Interesting shape, almost legendary at this point. Well done!

@TheErikRM 2 года назад

Love the fact that you included detailed explanations about the aiming part (on aim_botz), made the review really unique compared to other mouse reviewers and extensively informative, this is the content every mouse/aiming addict is looking for. Keep up the good work mate!

@hausgaming 2 года назад

Glad it was helpful, much appreciated brother!

@TheErikRM 2 года назад

@@hausgaming it's probably hard and expensive to keep up this kind of quality content, but if anyone's ever asking me for proper mouse reviewer, there's not even a sight of doubt who I'll recommend. See you on brutalcs dms 😁

@potion95 2 года назад

Mines coming in on Wednesday. So excited!

@Tr7gger 2 года назад

Great comparison, cheers Haus!

@hausgaming 2 года назад

Thank you!

@nisem0no 2 года назад

Your comments about the shape reminded me of what I found with the S1. I felt like my fingers grew tired from having to fight with my palm so much despite using fingertip. I'm just unsure as to whether the S2 will be wide enough AND have a hump small enough for my hand size and preferences (21/11 hands).

@SweSpy92 2 года назад

Review on point as always and i totally agree about the micro adjustment being hard on S2 i had the same problem on the ZA13B as well so i gripped both of them too hard when i had to make micro adjustments which wasn't very comfortable but i kinda like the S2 as my flicks are really good on it the ZA just felt clumsy and immobile with that insane hump for me. FK2 is my fav symmetrical but i can't yet tell if i like it more than the NP01S which is my favorite mouse for tracking.

@greippuli9166 2 года назад

Exact same here. Mice with bigger humps just don't work for me at all and I have always preferred mice like the fk2. Mz1 works wonders for me though, it's like holding a pen

@eakmadashma 2 года назад

cannot wait for the za-c honestly 75-65g is perfect weight all round. When i first got the mz1 coming from 85g+ mice i thought it was amazing and it is but once your hand gets used to the light weight and you build more fine control skill, going back to a heavier mouse feels so easy to aim with. Was probably cause i used mz1 on hien and raiden and then went to za on those pads I guess. If i used mz1 on a gsr or something then i dont think i would have increased my skill by much.

@Terra101 2 года назад

That is interesting. Going back to heavier mouse for me makes it harder to aim, takes more effort to micro adjust and flicks feel so slow. Also my brain is like stopping me from flicking too fast because the mouse is too heavy for it to be worth it, lol.

@HollowRick 2 года назад

Let's go kammyz!! S2C!

@rafaeltavares6928 2 года назад

Man, there's no way I'm turning away from my Superlight 🤦🏽‍♂️ Never had a Zowie and I was always curious but the shape was always an issue, but you just did a favor to everyone in my position by explaining the differences so easily... But again, Superlight is life ✌🏽🤦🏽‍♂️

@Hunzh647 2 года назад

I too fell in love with wireless logitech mice but ghub has been a big let down with their software not showing correct battery percentage.

@FriendNotFoeBand 2 года назад

The s2 is definitely more for low/mid sens. I grip it similar to you and I find that the contact with my pinky and ring finger on the mousepad helps alot with first shot accuracy. I play on 1.5 sens@400 dpi. I don't feel like I have as much space to readjust, but I dont have to so often. And honestly, I find few situations in CS, or any ranked shooter, where missing shots or not being quick to the target means you have been sent to the spectator realm. Its a hard toss up between the NP-01 and the S2 for me. Though I have actually been playing with the Prime Wireless (1.2 sens for dpi deviation).

@arch1e_tv496 2 года назад

What did you settle on mate

@arch1e_tv496 2 года назад

I play a very similar sens at 1.4 @400 dpi

@StarcraftSwarm 2 года назад

I have the same issue with the XM1R , my flicks are good with it , but it's impossible to microadjust. I think it's because of the extremely wide back hump which limits my range of motion because of the palm contact. That's why I'm waiting for the za13-c to come back into stock here in Europe.

@Terra101 2 года назад

Should be back in stock this week I think according to Zowie.

@333moon7 Год назад

I got the S1-C a few days ago and the mouse1 switch is too tight and occasionally when I click it, it stays clicked in.. Well after new mouse celebration I gotta head back and return it and get another one. It is a very fitting size to me, I switched back from small mice (g203, mm710) since I do have larger hands and had pain from the smaller mice. The S1's size also gives me more confidence in stability and makes me more consistent - not better, but consistent, but the switch makes this copy unusable. Thank you so much for talking about the shape in so much depth.

@CREAM2k7 2 года назад

Niko used S1 :) Maybe he switched already back :) Great vid! Loving your chan!

@elodonor8554 2 года назад

its s1mples mouse)

@baliDOTid 4 месяца назад

3:04 you've gotta edit in something when u said "and also the shape and the location of the hump is kind of asking for it" missed opportunity 😂

@hadoru314 2 года назад

@hausgaming nice vid as always, just wondering what are your cs go settings ?

@hausgaming 2 года назад

Thanks brother! My config is in description, you can download there!

@John-sp9if 2 года назад

Got really used to the Viper mini, the 60 gram is perfect weight for me and the shape fits me well too, thinking of buying ec3c or model d wireless, don't know if I should.

@hausgaming 2 года назад

I probably wouldn't if you really like the Viper Mini, those shapes are just drastically different to it.

@gaborvarga207 2 года назад

Maybe micro-adjustments could be improved by replacing the scates to pure (white) PTFE ones.

@hausgaming 2 года назад

In some cases yes, but for me no :/

@lnbabz 2 года назад

Really wanna try one of those Vaxee mousepads. Would you recommend it over the GSR-SE?

@hausgaming 2 года назад

For sure, feels much more consistent than the G-SR-SE!

@zakariya5110 2 года назад

What is the best lightweight mouse for pincer claw grip with 19.5x10cm hands?

@z0rg777 2 года назад

I prefer Zowie mice with a glossy finish, used to have S2 Black and it didn't feel confident in my hands, now I use FK1+ -B White and I really like it

@greippuli9166 2 года назад

Same here actually. I went from a white fk2 to a black s2 and actually couldn't aim at all lol

@z0rg777 2 года назад

@@greippuli9166 then it didn't seem to me)

@nudebullet 2 года назад

Haus you said the lod little bit over 1 dvd so is it in between 1 and 2 dvd's or does that means higher than the og copy or is it the same ? My second question is enable fast response clicks how does it work can you explain it please and thank you 🙏

@hausgaming 2 года назад

You just press m4 button when plugging in the mouse -> click response is 4ms. LOD is over 1 DVD but under 2 DVDs!

@GONZA10X Год назад

Wondering , is it possible to do the shorten mouse button delay, on the divina s2?

@CatsandDogs6347 2 года назад

hey haus big fan which zowie mouse would you recommend to someone that never had a zowie mouse before? i used g305, model o- and now gpx... handsize 17x9.5 claw grip

@hausgaming 2 года назад

They are all fairly different than what you've had before. FK2 is the most similar to the Model O-! My favourites are the FK1/2, the ZA13 and EC2

@LshowKnows 2 года назад

Hausgaming, I´ve tried the viper mini and I like the overall shape, but my pinky and ring finger cramp a lot after playing for a bit. I´ve also tried the GPro Superlight, altho comfortable, gripping it is a bit awkward and my hand can´t really fingertip/calw it. I have 17,5x9.5 hands. Do you think the S2 would be a better shape for me? I´m between the S2 and the ZA13, but I worry the ZA would be like the Viper Mini with smaller space for my pinky

@hausgaming 2 года назад

ZA13 has a limited amount of space for ring & pinky, so I'd possibly go for the S2-C just out of that info!

@ploxplox1109 2 года назад

best shape ever for me I sware if they ever make wireless mouse for s2-c that will be my endgame mouse but for now ill stick to wired

@zepsi5538 2 года назад

hey, question: I recently bought a S2, but I can barely use the mouse because the sensor is stuttering so so so much, Once i adjusted the LOD to the max it was a bit better but not flawless, any suggestions? im really dissapointed because i cant play with my new mouse :( , and i feel like not much people have this issue because ive watched tons of Zowie mouse reviews and never heard any1 talk about the way too low LOD.

@hausgaming 2 года назад

Your unit has an issue, I'd suggest returning it and getting a new one! Doesn't sound like it's easily fixable without breaking warranty.

@zepsi5538 2 года назад

@@hausgaming unfortunately Zowie told me I can’t return my unit, so I guess im just very unlucky

@jinn9700 2 года назад

Is there a bigger gap between the shell and m1 button. I had to return my s2 i got 2-3 months ago because the m1 button would get stuck pushed down (i cleaned the mouse and it still would get stuck)

@hausgaming 2 года назад

Not quite sure what you mean, but the shell design is the same

@niloykesslar2447 2 года назад

Can you review the ZA-C series also please?

@hausgaming 2 года назад

For sure when they are released!

@g0ati123 2 года назад

the real question is, would you prefer the new Zowie's over the Vaxee's? :D

@hausgaming 2 года назад

I like the Outset AX, NP-01S, FK2, EC2 and ZA13 all!

@dueterdot855 2 года назад

i dont see any copies of the s2 except from the pwnage UC 1 and the hk-gaming mira. can you tell me more copies?

@Nerdywr 2 года назад

Gamesense meta, Roccat burst pro to some extent as well

@GTOneShots 2 года назад

Would you recommend getting different mouse feet for the s2-c?

@hausgaming 2 года назад

Depends on the pad, but if you feel the feet are too slow.. Get spare feet!

@isma-- 2 года назад

one question, what is what you call "faster click response"?? I can not get the idea

@hausgaming 2 года назад

Lower click latency

@Bl9ckout 2 года назад

Did you weight this at all? just curious to know what it came to on your scales

@hausgaming 2 года назад

Weight is listed on the video! I don't remember it off the top of my head though.

@SicketMog 2 года назад

Looking at a used FK2 for about $31 (in my currency). Is it worth it (I only have Steelseries from before but now have issues with my third mousewheel in a row and am tired of them)?

@hausgaming 2 года назад

FK2 is decent for that money for sure!

@katherine-oh3rt 2 года назад

if you make a razer strider review, can you compare it to the odin infinity?

@hausgaming 2 года назад

Sure!

@katherine-oh3rt 2 года назад

@@hausgaming thanks :)

@samkoch1028 2 года назад

I'm debating between this and the Vaxee Np01s. Did you test the small or medium version?

@hausgaming 2 года назад

Sorry what? S2 is smaller S1 is larger!

@samkoch1028 2 года назад

@@hausgaming oh thanks

@avensCL 2 года назад

Without watching the video, it's the FK2's because it has the smallest side buttons of the three

@Fr0stbite1801 2 года назад

I am so happy to see Zowie finally, FINALLY, wake up and catch up to modern standards. I cannot wait for the S2 Wireless... In 2029.

@hausgaming 2 года назад

Lmao

@user-xz8tu8fc7d 2 года назад

@@hausgaming Hi, which is better to choose? zowie ec2-c or zowie s1-c?

@XXlegovidXx 2 года назад

@@user-xz8tu8fc7d imo, from having an ec1 and an s2, id really go for an s1/s2 its by far the best shape ive used and ive tried the pwnage ultra custom, delux m800, model d, model o, deathadder, rival 300.

@user-xz8tu8fc7d 2 года назад

@@XXlegovidXx why didn't you like pwnage?

@RitzyBusiness 2 года назад

I want a smaller fk, I prefer lower profile clicks.

@sukpoiu 2 года назад

In terms of shape, NP01 made the S2 obsolete for me. I like both shapes - NP01 felt like a direct upgrade over S2 though.

@hausgaming 2 года назад

I prefer the NP-01 over the S2 myself as well!

@kaiju1455 2 года назад

@@hausgaming could u explain why u prefer the np-01?

@user-yk2wb2zo8x 2 года назад

If im came from razer naga pro Which zowie model i should buy please?

@hausgaming 2 года назад

I'd prolly get the S1-C or EC2-C!

@genet1cs569 2 года назад

Should I get the ec2-c or the xlite wireless I currently use the roccat kone pure owl eye and love the shape but want a ec2 shape. Which should I get the xlite wireless or the ec2-c

@hausgaming 2 года назад

Xlite wireless is awesome! Not sure when the EC2-C will land!

@genet1cs569 2 года назад

@@hausgaming yes I’m going with the white xlite wireless with the white and blue and white vaxee pa and I have the hyper alloy FPS red so I’m going to put some white key caps on that and it will look clean

@jaysonfajardo7391 2 года назад

How does this compare to the XM1R? Are they very similar?

@hausgaming 2 года назад

They are very different shapes

@moepOo 2 года назад

What mice or mouse do you main atm?

@hausgaming 2 года назад

I like the Xtrfy M4 Tokyo, Outset AX, Xlite Wireless, Superlight, Pwnage Symm 2 a lot atm!

@H3nr1k-35 2 года назад

I’m waiting white version this mouse. Zowie, pls!?

@kikoannethomas9370 2 года назад

How light is the clicks on the new s2-c?

@hausgaming 2 года назад

Fairly light, I mention it on the video

@sedliska 2 года назад

Out of 40 mice I have used Zowie ZA13 is the best for micro adjusting. Waiting for that wireless version and when it will come out, I will be disappointed that it is not over 80g. I dont like this new super light weight meta.

@hausgaming 2 года назад

Damn :/. Lightweight is good for me, you should be able to get used to it as well!

@rixxy5334 2 года назад

What games do you play and what Lightweight mice did you try? If you play those tac shooters I can understand why a 60g or less mouse would feel a bit unstable but even 70g is objectively better than 80g. Once you notice how much faster you can move your hand with lighter mice while keeping the same control it’s so hard to go back to heavy ones

@sedliska 2 года назад

@@rixxy5334 I play only CSGO. I get it, light weight mice can be good for low sens or/and finger tip users. I use high sens, relaxed claw grip. I have tried a few 60g-70g mice. 60g for a few days, 70g for a few weeks or even months (Viper and Viper Ultimate) and it was pretty much the same with every mice - lack of stability. I need to feel that stopping power to be more precise. But it could also be that I am too old now :D 10-15 years ago I used to play DM every day, top fragging every single time on the "best" European CS 1.6 DM servers. Basically the lower I go with the weight, the worse my aim gets. Currently at 87g-90g with either DA V2 Pro, ROG Gladius III wireless or G703. My absolute peak was with DA 3.5G. I think that one was around 140g.

@rixxy5334 2 года назад

@@sedliska ah ye high sens is the only exception for lightweight to be fair, at 18cm I used to need 85g+ to be precise but after practicing my skills in kovaaks I can use up to 65g with 12cm before it’s too unstable. Also helps having a mudpad. But for tac shooters there’s no need to go lower than 24cm tbh

@iShowSpeedsClipper 2 года назад

@@rixxy5334 not objectively completely preference and THATS objective i mained the m1k for 7 months 22 grams and never liked it and play FAR better with heavier mice, you gotta understand that 99% of pros play with heavier mice and I’m not saying that they are better it’s complete preference.

@artissimkuns8748 2 года назад

NiKo is using S1 at the moment

@hausgaming 2 года назад

Ahh ok! Thanks!

@babyyou548 2 года назад

@@hausgaming he loves biger mices.Because that he stop using logitech g pro x superlight.And back to S1.

@lilstar3072 2 года назад

How does the s2-c compared to the np01s

@hausgaming 2 года назад

NP-01s is way smaller, NP-01 and S2 are of similar size, but the asymmetrical features of NP-01 make it feel different.

@zlibz4582 2 года назад

how is the s2c and ec2b different in terms of shape and feel ?

@hausgaming 2 года назад

S2-C is a symmetrical mouse where as the EC2-C is an asymmetrical one, very different shapes!

@zlibz4582 2 года назад

@@hausgaming i meant ec2 b not ec2 c

@zzutomayo 2 года назад

Outset ax or ec2-c which one would you prefer

@hausgaming 2 года назад

Both are amazing in their own way, Outset is in my top 5 best mice definitely, but not 100% sure for the ec2-c as I don't have one yet!

@zzutomayo 2 года назад

@@hausgaming ok thanks

@eo2169 2 года назад

will zowie gtfx be reviewed?

@hausgaming 2 года назад

Planning to get one soon for a comparison video actually!

@methos9167 2 года назад

Nice

@ioakimi 2 года назад

Yes

@greippuli9166 2 года назад

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@LOV3Z 2 года назад

What does this weigh on your scale, I never trust company numbers lol.

@hausgaming 2 года назад

I don't remember, but I mention it in the video.

@aaronmiguel2036 2 года назад

what is the keyboard haus?

@hausgaming 2 года назад

Wooting 60HE!

@pelaaja8427 2 года назад

Fuck, i had s2 and had problems micro adjusting too but thought its only my aim and bought the s2c but if i watched this video before i would have bought fk2c. fuck it hurts me

@justingatlin1 2 года назад

If I have 20x10cm hands and use a relaxed claw, would you recommend s1 or fk1?

@hausgaming 2 года назад

Both are great, depends if you'd like a higher hump or not!

@denismolander 2 года назад

s2 or zygen np-01?

@hausgaming 2 года назад

Both are great!

@Mike220111 2 года назад

Look like zowie is step up big time.

@Danko_HS 2 года назад

More like catching up. Nowadays there's a billion mice with low weight and paracord-like cable. All shapes and sizes.

@Mike220111 2 года назад

@@Danko_HS I still use a wireless mouse these days.

@Danko_HS 2 года назад

@@Mike220111 As you should. I use a Viper ultimate myself and once you go wireless there's no going back. I guess it will take Zowie another 5 years before they release a wireless mouse, if ever.

@Mike220111 2 года назад

@@Danko_HS , I'm using the viper ultimate, and this is version 2, and the left click and the right click are much better. I like the shape better, viper than the g pro.