@yushiroske lol yes I built rooms in it on day 1

@@stangreene6663 it is on almost every possible metric how many $150k bank loans have you been a part of?

@@musicmarketinghow many $150k record deals have you been apart of? Considering first that it is extremely hard for most people to get a bank loan for $150,000, once they do get one, you owe the bank the money back. And the banks have access to every legal procedure possible to get it from you. Liens, debt collectors, property and asset collection, messes with your credit. Labels only collect the money you owe mainly through record sales. Over 95% of artists on Spotify make less than $1,000 a year from their uploaded music. LESS THAN ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS! If you were signed to a label with those numbers, a label would simply drop you and you wouldnt owe the money anymore. Now if someone took your advice to get a bank loan and had those streaming numbers, the bank would not care and they would come for every single dollar owed, PLUS INTEREST, and it would ruin your financial history and health in the process. Its horrible advice to tell the average person to get a bank loan. Most people have extreme levels of debt already. It doesnt make any logical sense. Just having money isnt the answer. You need really good music, talented people to help with marketing, creative director, and a beast of a publicist to even be able to sniff at making one dollar back in this industry. I completely understand the sentiment of what you are saying and I know its coming from a good place, but with a good attorney you can easily negotiate better terms for your record deal to avoid some of the common pitfalls that trap artists. Try that with Wells Fargo

@@sabus1265 doggie... how many signed artists do you know? Do you really think labels do that for even 1% of the artists they sign?

@@musicmarketing 0. I just saw Fantano interview Logic and he said that a record label makes it much easier. And then I googled what a record label does. They give you an A&R to help you grow. I believe there is a sweet spot and not all deals are bad.

@@MrBratkenSolov I agree that it is very difficult (less than 1% success rate) to earn money from the monetization of created music. However, using music as a marketing vehicle for other monetization efforts has a much higher success rate.

@sunnohh pricing is determined by a free market of participants Pricing in one domain is skewed from the pricing in another domain - in this case subdomains of business to business lending Is arbitrage. Eat it doggie.

@KenTeel It's Kyle Lemaire, and yes I use it all the time. Also, this is a "laws of physics" thing, not a "bad feelings" kind of thing. You design a system irrespective of feelings. Sure, it feels great to call your ideas your property. Maybe the intention was to make everybody feel good. But in only 34 years of life (can you imagine?) I have learned that intentions are bad criteria for decision making - outcomes should be the only criteria. What is the outcome of having pretended that ideas are property? 1. Less than 1% of the capital generated by artistic works has ever made it into the hands of artists 2. Global corporations that are not led by artists hold all the negotiating power, control a crushing majority of the productive effort, and virtually control almost all of the ideas (sorry, property) that have ever been produced. Sick dude, you wanted to believe songs were like Snuggies and now we're all irreparably fucked. Great job.

@@musicmarketing Well yes, I can imagine 34 years old. I was, as usual, making music at 34 years old (as I still am.) The intellectual property thing has to do with work. That word work is conviently left out of your comments. If you work at something, that you create, it's your's regardless of whether or not it's a physical object. Just because a bunch of entitled punks want something for free, doesn't negate the work, nor the property rights, of those who labored to create an intellectual work. Your issue is with the business side of things, and who is in control. Business and property rights (intellectual) are two different things. One has to do with ownership of a work, the other has to do with gate keeping to the media and making money. You are confusing these two things. If I do the labor of creating a song, that IS my property, and is recognized by all rational people. Children who have been told that they are entitled to everything don't like this. Technology has enabled them to steal, so they rationalize, as they steal. That is what you're suggesting. Intellectual property is an advanced concept. Apes don't have it. Everything is physical in their world. They don't have money either. Money is a concept at its root also. We, as humans, recognize concepts. Intellectual property is a concept, and it is base on the work ethic. Now, I don't like the music biz, either. And, I think that shady businessmen in the music biz have abused artists. But, that doesn't negate the concept and the fairness of intellectual property rights. If making money is your only criteria, then Al Capone could be one of your heroes. Afterall, he was about making money regardless of ethics. Yes, the music business has been a crooked business without a doubt. It goes way back, even further than the payola scandals, in radio. You're right. It's a mafia. And they have had way too much control over media. Fortunately, the internet is changing all of that. Regardless of my criticisms, I do enjoy your words and your videos. Thanks for making them.

@KenTeel You have an insane, self-aggrandizing, and decidedly unacademic definition of intellectual property and property in general. Literally nobody, in the history of discussion on this subject, has ever seriously tried to propose that property is tied to work ethic. There is absolutely zero hope of this discussion benefiting either you or me, so I'm going to end it here.

@@musicmarketing Not the ethic... it's the ACTUAL WORK that generates intellectual property. Because it's a concept doesn't' negate the work, nor that it's property. Show a piece of sheet music, where you actually wrote the song that is written on it.